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2021-12-11

In a way ,it is a good problems. Shows that they have plenty of orders.

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2021-11-30

It's going to take some time before we know how bad it will be.

Covid-19 Antibody Drugs Are Challenged by Omicron, Preliminary Testing Indicates

2021-11-03

If you want to buy, just be patient.

Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading

2021-06-18

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2021-12-21

If you want to buy this stock, you need to have nerves of steel.and be very patient.

Palantir: 3 Reasons Against It And Why It's Still A Buy

2021-12-05

Difficult to value Grab as a profitable business. I am wary about how long before they can be profitable if at all.

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Listening to the bears' arguments is a good ","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>Palantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.</li>\n <li>PLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.</li>\n <li>Despite some interest rate headwinds, PLTR seems like a good investment to me, thanks to a strong moat and great growth outlook.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7230cdd890b86f9941b99b1503d04049\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1044\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>spxChrome/E+ via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Article Thesis</b></p>\n<p>Palantir Technologies (PLTR) is an embattled growth stock, and in recent weeks, bears have been winning as shares continued to decline. There are, indeed some important bear arguments, such as dilution, reliance on government contracts, and rising interest rates. 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Apple (AAPL), for example, has seen its net income grow by roughly 190% over the last decade:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2b5263c8346cfbbb898f1d1ac9a5bead\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>Thanks to a declining share count, its earnings per share rose by a much more attractive 350%, however -- buybacks created a lot of shareholder value. There are also examples where a rising share count destroyed a lot of shareholder value, e.g. at Citigroup (C):</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fc39008812f5e2d0082dedc95b025c68\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>Massive share issuance during the Great Recession has resulted in a 75% earnings per share decline since 2007, even though net profits were up over the same time frame. Looking at the changes in a company's share count thus makes sense, as those changes can have a large impact in the long run. At Palantir, we see that the share count has been rising considerably since the company went public. During the most recent quarter, Palantir's share count looked like this:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/917ca4d7a390ced61d7c92d528f84fc1\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"539\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Palantir Press Release</span></p>\n<p>Compared to the second quarter, Palantir's average share count was&nbsp;1.895 billion, which makes for a 3.5% quarterly increase, which pencils out to an annual growth rate in the mid-teens. That is, of course, not negligible at all, and bears to have an argument when they state that shareholders get diluted at a meaningful pace. On the other hand, Palantir's business growth rate is way higher than 3% per quarter, as the company has guided for ~40% revenue growth this year, and since Palantir should also deliver outsized business growth in the coming years. Even if Palantir's share count were to climb by 10%-15% a year going forward, revenue per share would still climb by 25%+ a year thanks to the fact that PLTR is growing rapidly. I also believe that dilution will, over the years, decline. Not only has this been the case at many other growth companies, e.g. Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG), or Meta (FB), but it is also logical from an option rewards perspective. Option rewards are especially generous when a company is not yet publicly traded and when its future is still more uncertain, but as a company matures, employees get more comfortable as risks for the company decline, and they do not demand large option packages any longer. Last but not least, Palantir also generates strong free cash flows that should allow the company to do share buybacks in the future, which should help improve the dilution rate as well.</p>\n<p><b>2. Reliance on government contracts</b></p>\n<p>In a recent bearish&nbsp;article, fellow Seeking Alpha contributor On The Pulse argued that Palantir was overvalued and that its reliance on government contracts was an issue. Palantir Technologies is, indeed, reliant on government contracts to a large degree today, but I do not believe that this is a major issue. First, Palantir has diversified away from government contracts in the recent past, thanks to massive growth in its commercial business:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/de23409915ee3811691b986a42ece899\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"308\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Palantir Technologies presentation</span></p>\n<p>In fact, Palantir's commercial business has been growing much faster than its government business in the recent past, which shows that commercial customers from all kinds of industries apparently see a lot of value in Palantir's technology -- otherwise, they wouldn't be buying at a rapid pace. With</p>\n<p>With the commercial business growth rate outpacing the government business growth rate, Palantir will, over the years, become a company that is less and less dependent on government contracts, and that will ultimately turn into a B2B-focused software/technology player. Even if Palantir were to remain a government-focused company forever, which seems unlikely based on the current growth rates of the individual business units, that would not necessarily be an issue. Working for the government means that there is very little counterparty risk and that existing relations can easily be used to get future contracts. Last but not least, with government budgets rising relatively steadily, good government connections allow for considerable growth opportunities -- especially in the defense tech/security tech space Palantir is active in, as there is a huge need for further investments in this space.</p>\n<p>The claim that a government focus leads to lacking scalability is also false, I believe. Per Palantir's most recent quarterly report (linked above), its operating expenses rose by $9 million between Q3 2020 and Q3 2021 -- whereas revenues rose by $103 million in the same time frame. This backs out changes in share-based compensation. If one were to include those SBC expenses, Palantir's expenses actually<i>declined</i>year-over-year while the company managed to grow its revenue by close to 40%. The claim that Palantir will not generate any scale advantages over the years thus seems to be unfounded, I believe. Instead, the data suggest that Palantir will be able to grow its margins considerably -- the company was able to grow its adjusted gross profit by a massive $90 million while growing its adjusted operating expenses by just $9 million -- making for excellent operating leverage.</p>\n<p><b>3. Exposure to rising rates</b></p>\n<p>Massive inflation will force the Fed to raise rates in 2022 and beyond, and that could be an issue for growth stocks. Companies that are not profitable today, or that have the vast majority of their profits in the distant future, are more exposed to a rising discount rate compared to companies that have low or no growth and that generate a large amount of all future profits in the near term. This could result in outperformance of value stocks versus growth stocks in the coming years, I believe. Palantir, which is not profitable yet, naturally belongs in the \"growth\" bucket that could see an above-average impact from rising interest rates. There is no real counter-argument here, I believe -- it is indeed true that the impact of rising rates on Palantir, all else equal, will be larger compared to a value stock like AbbVie (ABBV), for example.</p>\n<p>This being an incremental negative for Palantir doesn't mean that shares have to be avoided under any circumstances, however. Indeed, even despite some potential headwinds from rising rates, Palantir could still be an attractive investment if other arguments have a larger weight -- I believe this to be true, as I see PLTR's massive growth potential and huge moat outweighing some near-term headwinds from rising rates.</p>\n<p><b>Why Palantir Is Still Attractive</b></p>\n<p>Bears bring up a range of arguments against Palantir, and as shown above, those can have merit. I believe that they might be overblown in some cases, but taking a look at the bear's arguments doesn't hurt -- in fact, it seems like a good idea to look at both sides in order to make a more informed decision. Dilution is indeed an issue, although I do not believe that this will be too much of a headwind, since PLTR's business growth easily outpaces dilution and since dilution, overall, should slow down over the years. Government reliance will wane over the years due to an above-average commercial business growth rate, and in general, doing business with the government is not a bad thing anyway. The claim that PLTR lacks scalability seems to be false, from what I see in PLTR's data.</p>\n<p>Palantir is, despite these arguments, attractive, I believe: The company is growing rapidly, has decades-long growth potential in both its government business as well as on the commercial side, and Palantir seems to have a very wide moat. This combination could turn Palantir into one of the largest and most important companies eventually -- although investors shouldn't expect this to happen in the very near term. Instead, I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will grow at a considerable rate throughout the 2020s and beyond, as our world becomes ever more data-hungry -- both governments, as well as enterprises, will try to get the most value out of all of this data, and Palantir, with its tailored solutions, will be there to offer that value to its customers. With new tools such as the recently-showcased&nbsp;Foundry&nbsp;for crypto, Palantir is at the forefront of all kinds of emerging technologies. Thanks to the fact that Palantir has access to top talent -- the result of SBC and of an&nbsp;excellent working environment-- I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will be able to be highly competitive in all kinds of future markets in the Big Data/AI space that may not even exist yet.</p>\n<p><b>Takeaway</b></p>\n<p>In general, I am not much of a growth investor -- instead, I primarily focus on attractively priced stocks with strong cash flows, oftentimes those that pay dividends. Palantir, however, is somewhat of an outlier in my portfolio -- it's a growth stock, it is not really profitable yet, and most of its potential is years away. Due to the highly attractive combination of a massive market opportunity, excellent talent, and a wide moat, Palantir still seems like an attractive long-term investment to me. This isn't a stock that will make investors rich quickly, but I believe that there is a very good chance that Palantir will turn into a very dominant, important company over the next 10+ years. At 19x next year's revenue, PLTR is not cheap, but when we expect that the company will grow at a strong rate for many years, that also doesn't seem outlandish to me at all. 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Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.\nPLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.\nDespite ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4475960-palantir-3-reasons-against-it-and-why-its-still-a-buy\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4475960-palantir-3-reasons-against-it-and-why-its-still-a-buy","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1117226796","content_text":"Summary\n\nPalantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.\nPLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.\nDespite some interest rate headwinds, PLTR seems like a good investment to me, thanks to a strong moat and great growth outlook.\n\nspxChrome/E+ via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nPalantir Technologies (PLTR) is an embattled growth stock, and in recent weeks, bears have been winning as shares continued to decline. There are, indeed some important bear arguments, such as dilution, reliance on government contracts, and rising interest rates. I do, however, still believe that Palantir Technologies is an attractive long-term investment, due to the act that its technology could lead to massive growth for many years to come.\n3 Issues Brought Up By Bears\nPalantir is a growth stock that brings out highly convinced bulls as well as highly convinced bears. Generally, I am in the bullish camp here, but taking a look at the bear arguments can be a good idea as well. Three of the most common arguments against Palantir are the following ones:\n1. Shareholder Dilution\nGrowth on a company-wide basis is important, but growth on a per-share basis is even more important. There are many examples that show that changes in a company's share count can create or destroy a lot of shareholder value. Apple (AAPL), for example, has seen its net income grow by roughly 190% over the last decade:\nData by YCharts\nThanks to a declining share count, its earnings per share rose by a much more attractive 350%, however -- buybacks created a lot of shareholder value. There are also examples where a rising share count destroyed a lot of shareholder value, e.g. at Citigroup (C):\nData by YCharts\nMassive share issuance during the Great Recession has resulted in a 75% earnings per share decline since 2007, even though net profits were up over the same time frame. Looking at the changes in a company's share count thus makes sense, as those changes can have a large impact in the long run. At Palantir, we see that the share count has been rising considerably since the company went public. During the most recent quarter, Palantir's share count looked like this:\nSource: Palantir Press Release\nCompared to the second quarter, Palantir's average share count was 1.895 billion, which makes for a 3.5% quarterly increase, which pencils out to an annual growth rate in the mid-teens. That is, of course, not negligible at all, and bears to have an argument when they state that shareholders get diluted at a meaningful pace. On the other hand, Palantir's business growth rate is way higher than 3% per quarter, as the company has guided for ~40% revenue growth this year, and since Palantir should also deliver outsized business growth in the coming years. Even if Palantir's share count were to climb by 10%-15% a year going forward, revenue per share would still climb by 25%+ a year thanks to the fact that PLTR is growing rapidly. I also believe that dilution will, over the years, decline. Not only has this been the case at many other growth companies, e.g. Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG), or Meta (FB), but it is also logical from an option rewards perspective. Option rewards are especially generous when a company is not yet publicly traded and when its future is still more uncertain, but as a company matures, employees get more comfortable as risks for the company decline, and they do not demand large option packages any longer. Last but not least, Palantir also generates strong free cash flows that should allow the company to do share buybacks in the future, which should help improve the dilution rate as well.\n2. Reliance on government contracts\nIn a recent bearish article, fellow Seeking Alpha contributor On The Pulse argued that Palantir was overvalued and that its reliance on government contracts was an issue. Palantir Technologies is, indeed, reliant on government contracts to a large degree today, but I do not believe that this is a major issue. First, Palantir has diversified away from government contracts in the recent past, thanks to massive growth in its commercial business:\nSource: Palantir Technologies presentation\nIn fact, Palantir's commercial business has been growing much faster than its government business in the recent past, which shows that commercial customers from all kinds of industries apparently see a lot of value in Palantir's technology -- otherwise, they wouldn't be buying at a rapid pace. With\nWith the commercial business growth rate outpacing the government business growth rate, Palantir will, over the years, become a company that is less and less dependent on government contracts, and that will ultimately turn into a B2B-focused software/technology player. Even if Palantir were to remain a government-focused company forever, which seems unlikely based on the current growth rates of the individual business units, that would not necessarily be an issue. Working for the government means that there is very little counterparty risk and that existing relations can easily be used to get future contracts. Last but not least, with government budgets rising relatively steadily, good government connections allow for considerable growth opportunities -- especially in the defense tech/security tech space Palantir is active in, as there is a huge need for further investments in this space.\nThe claim that a government focus leads to lacking scalability is also false, I believe. Per Palantir's most recent quarterly report (linked above), its operating expenses rose by $9 million between Q3 2020 and Q3 2021 -- whereas revenues rose by $103 million in the same time frame. This backs out changes in share-based compensation. If one were to include those SBC expenses, Palantir's expenses actuallydeclinedyear-over-year while the company managed to grow its revenue by close to 40%. The claim that Palantir will not generate any scale advantages over the years thus seems to be unfounded, I believe. Instead, the data suggest that Palantir will be able to grow its margins considerably -- the company was able to grow its adjusted gross profit by a massive $90 million while growing its adjusted operating expenses by just $9 million -- making for excellent operating leverage.\n3. Exposure to rising rates\nMassive inflation will force the Fed to raise rates in 2022 and beyond, and that could be an issue for growth stocks. Companies that are not profitable today, or that have the vast majority of their profits in the distant future, are more exposed to a rising discount rate compared to companies that have low or no growth and that generate a large amount of all future profits in the near term. This could result in outperformance of value stocks versus growth stocks in the coming years, I believe. Palantir, which is not profitable yet, naturally belongs in the \"growth\" bucket that could see an above-average impact from rising interest rates. There is no real counter-argument here, I believe -- it is indeed true that the impact of rising rates on Palantir, all else equal, will be larger compared to a value stock like AbbVie (ABBV), for example.\nThis being an incremental negative for Palantir doesn't mean that shares have to be avoided under any circumstances, however. Indeed, even despite some potential headwinds from rising rates, Palantir could still be an attractive investment if other arguments have a larger weight -- I believe this to be true, as I see PLTR's massive growth potential and huge moat outweighing some near-term headwinds from rising rates.\nWhy Palantir Is Still Attractive\nBears bring up a range of arguments against Palantir, and as shown above, those can have merit. I believe that they might be overblown in some cases, but taking a look at the bear's arguments doesn't hurt -- in fact, it seems like a good idea to look at both sides in order to make a more informed decision. Dilution is indeed an issue, although I do not believe that this will be too much of a headwind, since PLTR's business growth easily outpaces dilution and since dilution, overall, should slow down over the years. Government reliance will wane over the years due to an above-average commercial business growth rate, and in general, doing business with the government is not a bad thing anyway. The claim that PLTR lacks scalability seems to be false, from what I see in PLTR's data.\nPalantir is, despite these arguments, attractive, I believe: The company is growing rapidly, has decades-long growth potential in both its government business as well as on the commercial side, and Palantir seems to have a very wide moat. This combination could turn Palantir into one of the largest and most important companies eventually -- although investors shouldn't expect this to happen in the very near term. Instead, I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will grow at a considerable rate throughout the 2020s and beyond, as our world becomes ever more data-hungry -- both governments, as well as enterprises, will try to get the most value out of all of this data, and Palantir, with its tailored solutions, will be there to offer that value to its customers. With new tools such as the recently-showcased Foundry for crypto, Palantir is at the forefront of all kinds of emerging technologies. Thanks to the fact that Palantir has access to top talent -- the result of SBC and of an excellent working environment-- I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will be able to be highly competitive in all kinds of future markets in the Big Data/AI space that may not even exist yet.\nTakeaway\nIn general, I am not much of a growth investor -- instead, I primarily focus on attractively priced stocks with strong cash flows, oftentimes those that pay dividends. Palantir, however, is somewhat of an outlier in my portfolio -- it's a growth stock, it is not really profitable yet, and most of its potential is years away. Due to the highly attractive combination of a massive market opportunity, excellent talent, and a wide moat, Palantir still seems like an attractive long-term investment to me. This isn't a stock that will make investors rich quickly, but I believe that there is a very good chance that Palantir will turn into a very dominant, important company over the next 10+ years. At 19x next year's revenue, PLTR is not cheap, but when we expect that the company will grow at a strong rate for many years, that also doesn't seem outlandish to me at all. It makes sense to listen to the bears' arguments, but I believe that the pros outweigh the cons here.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":756,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":605202368,"gmtCreate":1639176190615,"gmtModify":1639176190722,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3585191808723701","idStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"In a way ,it is a good problems. Shows that they have plenty of orders.","listText":"In a way ,it is a good problems. Shows that they have plenty of orders.","text":"In a way ,it is a good problems. Shows that they have plenty of orders.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/605202368","repostId":"1165282830","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1165282830","pubTimestamp":1639148461,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1165282830?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-12-10 23:01","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla stops taking Model S and Model X orders outside North America","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1165282830","media":"Electrek","summary":"Tesla announced to potential buyers today that it stopped taking new Model S and Model X orders outs","content":"<p>Tesla announced to potential buyers today that it stopped taking new Model S and Model X orders outside North America.</p>\n<p>It now expects deliveries in other markets to start during the second half of 2022.</p>\n<p>The news comes from an email that Tesla started sending out to people who have Model S and Model X vehicles on order in Europe.</p>\n<p>Tesla writes in the email that it is not accepting any new orders (translated from German):</p>\n<blockquote>\n In order to expedite the delivery of existing orders, including your Model X order, as much as possible, we are currently no longer accepting new orders for the Model S and Model X from markets outside of North America.\n</blockquote>\n<p>This is in response to Tesla likely having a large backlog of Model S/X orders in Europe and other markets, where there has been no new Model S/X shipment in a year.</p>\n<p>Tesla shut down Model S and Model X production in January of last year to update the vehicles.</p>\n<p>During that year, the automaker kept taking new orders, but production was delayed with new Model S starting to slowly come off the assembly line in June and&nbsp;Model X in October.</p>\n<p>Tesla is still catching up to the backlog in North America while new orders kept coming in from Europe and Asia.</p>\n<p>In the email, Tesla says that it now aims to deliver the first Model S and Model X in Europe during the second half of next year:</p>\n<blockquote>\n Your Model X is getting closer to delivery. We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022.\n</blockquote>\n<p>This means that Europe would be without Model S and Model X for a year and a half.</p>\n<p>Here’s the email in full:</p>\n<blockquote>\n Hello [redacted],\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n We are contacting you regarding the timing of your Model X order. As we expand production capacity, the launch dates for markets outside of North America have been postponed. We will inform you of the delivery times through your Tesla account when production begins.\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n Your Model X is getting closer to delivery. We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022.\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n In order to expedite the delivery of existing orders, including your Model X order, as much as possible, we are currently no longer accepting new orders for the Model S and Model X from markets outside of North America.\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n The price of your Model X will continue to be the same as it was when you placed your order, unless your vehicle configuration has been changed. To apply your order fee to another model, or to receive a full refund, request a call to speak directly to a Tesla representative.\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n Kind regards,\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n Your Tesla Team Testa\n</blockquote>","source":"lsy1627037122897","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla stops taking Model S and Model X orders outside North America</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022.\n\nThis means that Europe would be without Model S and Model X for a year and a half.\nHere’s the email in full:\n\n Hello [redacted],\n\n\n We are contacting you regarding the timing of your Model X order. As we expand production capacity, the launch dates for markets outside of North America have been postponed. We will inform you of the delivery times through your Tesla account when production begins.\n\n\n Your Model X is getting closer to delivery. We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022.\n\n\n In order to expedite the delivery of existing orders, including your Model X order, as much as possible, we are currently no longer accepting new orders for the Model S and Model X from markets outside of North America.\n\n\n The price of your Model X will continue to be the same as it was when you placed your order, unless your vehicle configuration has been changed. To apply your order fee to another model, or to receive a full refund, request a call to speak directly to a Tesla representative.\n\n\n We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.\n\n\n Kind regards,\n\n\n Your Tesla Team Testa","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":710,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":608636122,"gmtCreate":1638706503852,"gmtModify":1638706503852,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3585191808723701","idStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Difficult to value Grab as a profitable business. I am wary about how long before they can be profitable if at all.","listText":"Difficult to value Grab as a profitable business. I am wary about how long before they can be profitable if at all.","text":"Difficult to value Grab as a profitable business. I am wary about how long before they can be profitable if at all.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/608636122","repostId":"2188951783","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2188951783","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1638487440,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2188951783?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-12-03 07:24","market":"us","language":"en","title":"After completing richest SPAC deal yet, Grab stock slumps on first day of trading","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2188951783","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"Southeast Asia 'superapp' company tops $50 billion market cap in early trades, but then falls more t","content":"<p>Southeast Asia 'superapp' company tops $50 billion market cap in early trades, but then falls more than 20% lower after record fundraise and valuation for a SPAC deal</p>\n<p>After completing the richest deal yet for a special-purpose acquisition company, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GRAB\">Grab Holdings</a> Ltd. shares experienced an initial pop Thursday, their first day of trading in the U.S., but then slumped to a decline of more than 20%.</p>\n<p>Shares of Grab (GRAB) opened on the Nasdaq at $13.06, up about 19% from Wednesday, when it was trading as the <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AGCUU\">Altimeter Growth</a> Group, the SPAC that took it public. The deal raised $4.5 billion at a valuation of more than $37 billion, according to DealLogic, which reported that the funds raised and valuation were both records for a SPAC.</p>\n<p>The strong open gave Grab a market capitalization of about $51.6 billion, but as of 4 p.m. Eastern time, the stock was down more than 20% to $8.75.</p>\n<p>The Singapore-based company makes a \"superapp\" offering ride-hailing, delivery and financial services in more than 400 cities in Southeast Asia. Grab's chief financial officer, Peter Oey, said in an interview with MarketWatch on Thursday that the company had its \"roughest patch\" in the third quarter ended Sept. 30 because of COVID-19-related shutdowns in Southeast Asia, especially Vietnam. But he pointed to continued expected growth and recovery, even as the company watches what happens with the new coronavirus variant, omicron.</p>\n<p>\"Our mobility business has been rising as lockdowns have been relaxed,\" he said. \"Our payments business also continues to grow. We're seeing all strong signs.\"</p>\n<p>Oey also touted Grab's breadth and wide reach.</p>\n<p>\"Our superapp is so unique in Southeast Asia,\" he said. \"It's ride-hailing, food delivery, grocery delivery, last-mile delivery and a whole range of financial services products all in <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a> app.\" He said the app \"touches [consumers] in their everyday lives.\"</p>\n<p>Backers of Grab, which was founded in 2012, include Didi Global Inc. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/DIDI\">$(DIDI)$</a>, Toyota Motor Corp. (7203.TO) and SoftBank Group Corp.'s Vision Fund.</p>\n<p>Grab's financial picture</p>\n<p>Grab, like other ride-hailing and delivery app makers, has lost a lot of money since its founding in 2012: It had accumulated losses of $11.9 billion as of June 2021, according to its prospectus.</p>\n<p>The company recently reported a third-quarter net loss of $988 million, an increase of $366 million year over year. Grab said its revenue fell 9% year over year to $157 million, citing COVID-19-related lockdowns in Vietnam between July and September that affected its ride-hailing, or mobility, business. It also said the number of its monthly users was down 8% year over year because those lockdowns resulted in suspensions of both its ride-hailing and food-delivery businesses in Vietnam.</p>\n<p>However, the company touted a record $4 billion in gross merchandise value for the quarter, a 32% year-over-year increase, and said year-over-year gross billings rose 41% to $616 million, also a record high.</p>\n<p>Risk factors</p>\n<p>Besides Vietnam, Grab serves customers in Cambodia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore and Thailand. Oey described a \"huge opportunity\" with a total addressable market of $180 billion in the company's core products of ride-hailing, delivery and payments.</p>\n<p>The company competes with other platforms as well as restaurants and stores that have their own delivery services. It bought Uber Technologies Inc.'s <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/UBER\">$(UBER)$</a> business in Southeast Asia in 2018, but its noncompete agreement with Uber expires in March 2023, or one year after Uber disposes of its entire stake in Grab, whichever is later. Another possible rival is Didi, which could enter the market after its noncompete with Grab expires.</p>\n<p>Like other gig companies, Grab considers its workers independent contractors. In its prospectus, the company mentions that governments in Southeast Asia have shown \"growing interest\" in the classification of Grab's drivers and delivery workers because of related developments elsewhere in the world. In the U.S. and Europe, governments and courts have battled gig companies over the worker-classification issue.</p>\n<p>Oey said there's a \"different backdrop in Southeast Asia\" when it comes to the issue, pointing to the region's many \"informal workers.\" He said that for nearly 50% of Grab's 5 million registered drivers, \"this is their first ability to earn something and make a decent living.\"</p>\n<p>\"For a lot of them, it's their first bank account,\" he added. \"A lot of them, it's their first access to steady employment.\"</p>\n<p>As for coronavirus-related risk, vaccination rates in Asia vary and, like what happened with the full shutdown in Vietnam over the summer, could materially affect Grab's businesses.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>After completing richest SPAC deal yet, Grab stock slumps on first day of trading</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAfter completing richest SPAC deal yet, Grab stock slumps on first day of trading\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2021-12-03 07:24</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Southeast Asia 'superapp' company tops $50 billion market cap in early trades, but then falls more than 20% lower after record fundraise and valuation for a SPAC deal</p>\n<p>After completing the richest deal yet for a special-purpose acquisition company, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GRAB\">Grab Holdings</a> Ltd. shares experienced an initial pop Thursday, their first day of trading in the U.S., but then slumped to a decline of more than 20%.</p>\n<p>Shares of Grab (GRAB) opened on the Nasdaq at $13.06, up about 19% from Wednesday, when it was trading as the <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AGCUU\">Altimeter Growth</a> Group, the SPAC that took it public. The deal raised $4.5 billion at a valuation of more than $37 billion, according to DealLogic, which reported that the funds raised and valuation were both records for a SPAC.</p>\n<p>The strong open gave Grab a market capitalization of about $51.6 billion, but as of 4 p.m. Eastern time, the stock was down more than 20% to $8.75.</p>\n<p>The Singapore-based company makes a \"superapp\" offering ride-hailing, delivery and financial services in more than 400 cities in Southeast Asia. Grab's chief financial officer, Peter Oey, said in an interview with MarketWatch on Thursday that the company had its \"roughest patch\" in the third quarter ended Sept. 30 because of COVID-19-related shutdowns in Southeast Asia, especially Vietnam. But he pointed to continued expected growth and recovery, even as the company watches what happens with the new coronavirus variant, omicron.</p>\n<p>\"Our mobility business has been rising as lockdowns have been relaxed,\" he said. \"Our payments business also continues to grow. We're seeing all strong signs.\"</p>\n<p>Oey also touted Grab's breadth and wide reach.</p>\n<p>\"Our superapp is so unique in Southeast Asia,\" he said. \"It's ride-hailing, food delivery, grocery delivery, last-mile delivery and a whole range of financial services products all in <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a> app.\" He said the app \"touches [consumers] in their everyday lives.\"</p>\n<p>Backers of Grab, which was founded in 2012, include Didi Global Inc. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/DIDI\">$(DIDI)$</a>, Toyota Motor Corp. (7203.TO) and SoftBank Group Corp.'s Vision Fund.</p>\n<p>Grab's financial picture</p>\n<p>Grab, like other ride-hailing and delivery app makers, has lost a lot of money since its founding in 2012: It had accumulated losses of $11.9 billion as of June 2021, according to its prospectus.</p>\n<p>The company recently reported a third-quarter net loss of $988 million, an increase of $366 million year over year. Grab said its revenue fell 9% year over year to $157 million, citing COVID-19-related lockdowns in Vietnam between July and September that affected its ride-hailing, or mobility, business. It also said the number of its monthly users was down 8% year over year because those lockdowns resulted in suspensions of both its ride-hailing and food-delivery businesses in Vietnam.</p>\n<p>However, the company touted a record $4 billion in gross merchandise value for the quarter, a 32% year-over-year increase, and said year-over-year gross billings rose 41% to $616 million, also a record high.</p>\n<p>Risk factors</p>\n<p>Besides Vietnam, Grab serves customers in Cambodia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore and Thailand. Oey described a \"huge opportunity\" with a total addressable market of $180 billion in the company's core products of ride-hailing, delivery and payments.</p>\n<p>The company competes with other platforms as well as restaurants and stores that have their own delivery services. It bought Uber Technologies Inc.'s <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/UBER\">$(UBER)$</a> business in Southeast Asia in 2018, but its noncompete agreement with Uber expires in March 2023, or one year after Uber disposes of its entire stake in Grab, whichever is later. Another possible rival is Didi, which could enter the market after its noncompete with Grab expires.</p>\n<p>Like other gig companies, Grab considers its workers independent contractors. In its prospectus, the company mentions that governments in Southeast Asia have shown \"growing interest\" in the classification of Grab's drivers and delivery workers because of related developments elsewhere in the world. In the U.S. and Europe, governments and courts have battled gig companies over the worker-classification issue.</p>\n<p>Oey said there's a \"different backdrop in Southeast Asia\" when it comes to the issue, pointing to the region's many \"informal workers.\" He said that for nearly 50% of Grab's 5 million registered drivers, \"this is their first ability to earn something and make a decent living.\"</p>\n<p>\"For a lot of them, it's their first bank account,\" he added. \"A lot of them, it's their first access to steady employment.\"</p>\n<p>As for coronavirus-related risk, vaccination rates in Asia vary and, like what happened with the full shutdown in Vietnam over the summer, could materially affect Grab's businesses.</p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"GRAB":"Grab Holdings"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2188951783","content_text":"Southeast Asia 'superapp' company tops $50 billion market cap in early trades, but then falls more than 20% lower after record fundraise and valuation for a SPAC deal\nAfter completing the richest deal yet for a special-purpose acquisition company, Grab Holdings Ltd. shares experienced an initial pop Thursday, their first day of trading in the U.S., but then slumped to a decline of more than 20%.\nShares of Grab (GRAB) opened on the Nasdaq at $13.06, up about 19% from Wednesday, when it was trading as the Altimeter Growth Group, the SPAC that took it public. The deal raised $4.5 billion at a valuation of more than $37 billion, according to DealLogic, which reported that the funds raised and valuation were both records for a SPAC.\nThe strong open gave Grab a market capitalization of about $51.6 billion, but as of 4 p.m. Eastern time, the stock was down more than 20% to $8.75.\nThe Singapore-based company makes a \"superapp\" offering ride-hailing, delivery and financial services in more than 400 cities in Southeast Asia. Grab's chief financial officer, Peter Oey, said in an interview with MarketWatch on Thursday that the company had its \"roughest patch\" in the third quarter ended Sept. 30 because of COVID-19-related shutdowns in Southeast Asia, especially Vietnam. But he pointed to continued expected growth and recovery, even as the company watches what happens with the new coronavirus variant, omicron.\n\"Our mobility business has been rising as lockdowns have been relaxed,\" he said. \"Our payments business also continues to grow. We're seeing all strong signs.\"\nOey also touted Grab's breadth and wide reach.\n\"Our superapp is so unique in Southeast Asia,\" he said. \"It's ride-hailing, food delivery, grocery delivery, last-mile delivery and a whole range of financial services products all in one app.\" He said the app \"touches [consumers] in their everyday lives.\"\nBackers of Grab, which was founded in 2012, include Didi Global Inc. $(DIDI)$, Toyota Motor Corp. (7203.TO) and SoftBank Group Corp.'s Vision Fund.\nGrab's financial picture\nGrab, like other ride-hailing and delivery app makers, has lost a lot of money since its founding in 2012: It had accumulated losses of $11.9 billion as of June 2021, according to its prospectus.\nThe company recently reported a third-quarter net loss of $988 million, an increase of $366 million year over year. Grab said its revenue fell 9% year over year to $157 million, citing COVID-19-related lockdowns in Vietnam between July and September that affected its ride-hailing, or mobility, business. It also said the number of its monthly users was down 8% year over year because those lockdowns resulted in suspensions of both its ride-hailing and food-delivery businesses in Vietnam.\nHowever, the company touted a record $4 billion in gross merchandise value for the quarter, a 32% year-over-year increase, and said year-over-year gross billings rose 41% to $616 million, also a record high.\nRisk factors\nBesides Vietnam, Grab serves customers in Cambodia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore and Thailand. Oey described a \"huge opportunity\" with a total addressable market of $180 billion in the company's core products of ride-hailing, delivery and payments.\nThe company competes with other platforms as well as restaurants and stores that have their own delivery services. It bought Uber Technologies Inc.'s $(UBER)$ business in Southeast Asia in 2018, but its noncompete agreement with Uber expires in March 2023, or one year after Uber disposes of its entire stake in Grab, whichever is later. Another possible rival is Didi, which could enter the market after its noncompete with Grab expires.\nLike other gig companies, Grab considers its workers independent contractors. In its prospectus, the company mentions that governments in Southeast Asia have shown \"growing interest\" in the classification of Grab's drivers and delivery workers because of related developments elsewhere in the world. In the U.S. and Europe, governments and courts have battled gig companies over the worker-classification issue.\nOey said there's a \"different backdrop in Southeast Asia\" when it comes to the issue, pointing to the region's many \"informal workers.\" He said that for nearly 50% of Grab's 5 million registered drivers, \"this is their first ability to earn something and make a decent living.\"\n\"For a lot of them, it's their first bank account,\" he added. \"A lot of them, it's their first access to steady employment.\"\nAs for coronavirus-related risk, vaccination rates in Asia vary and, like what happened with the full shutdown in Vietnam over the summer, could materially affect Grab's businesses.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":762,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":609693475,"gmtCreate":1638274892283,"gmtModify":1638274892283,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3585191808723701","idStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"It's going to take some time before we know how bad it will be.","listText":"It's going to take some time before we know how bad it will be.","text":"It's going to take some time before we know how bad it will be.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/609693475","repostId":"1192203085","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1192203085","pubTimestamp":1638273550,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1192203085?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-30 19:59","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Covid-19 Antibody Drugs Are Challenged by Omicron, Preliminary Testing Indicates","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1192203085","media":"The Wall Street Journal","summary":"Regeneron said its antibody drug cocktail was found to lose effectiveness against the new variant\nA ","content":"<p>Regeneron said its antibody drug cocktail was found to lose effectiveness against the new variant</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ed6086131617e6933fe07f3e46cd5c26\" tg-width=\"1290\" tg-height=\"859\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>A monoclonal antibody treatment site in Pembroke Pines, Fla., earlier this year.</span></p>\n<p>Preliminary tests indicate the Covid-19 antibody drug cocktail from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. loses effectiveness against Omicron, the company said Tuesday, a sign that some products in an important class of therapies might need modifying if the new strain becomes widespread.</p>\n<p>Separate testing of another authorized Covid-19 antibody drug cocktail, from&nbsp;Eli Lilly&amp; Co., indicates it also isn’t as effective against Omicron, outside scientists said. Lilly said it is testing the new variant against its antibody treatment and wouldn’t speculate on what the results will be.</p>\n<p>The findings are the early results of researchers’ race to assess the impact of the&nbsp;new Omicron variant&nbsp;on Covid-19 treatments that patients, doctors and hospitals have been relying on, as well as pills in development that have promised to keep people out of the hospital.</p>\n<p>Researchers say some antibody therapies are likely to be especially vulnerable to Omicron because it contains mutations to the spike protein that the Regeneron and Lilly drugs target, while other drugs should hold up well because they attack elements of the virus unchanged in the variant.</p>\n<p>Monoclonal antibodies are lab-made molecules derived from survivors of Covid-19 or mice engineered to have human immune systems. When given soon after infection, the drugs attach to the surface of the coronavirus and prevent it from replicating itself in new cells.</p>\n<p>They are the only drugs authorized to treat patients, before they require hospitalization, who are at high risk of developing severe cases.</p>\n<p>The drugs differ from vaccines, which train the immune system how to defend against the virus, including with the production of antibodies. Last year, former&nbsp;President Donald Trump credited Regeneron’s drug&nbsp;with his speedy recovery from Covid-19.</p>\n<p>Regeneron said it would be able to quantify the impact of the variant in coming weeks, after further testing is done.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6e7fac5c4630025e6c5ad28d2c3efbfa\" tg-width=\"1050\" tg-height=\"700\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Antiviral pills such as Pfizer’s Paxlovid appear to be unaffected by the variant.</span></p>\n<p>If final testing shows that its antibody drugs are less effective against Omicron, Regeneron has developed alternative antibodies that it can push into clinical testing and that it thinks will retain effectiveness against the variant, said George Yancopoulos, the company’s president and chief scientific officer.</p>\n<p>One of Regeneron’s alternative antibodies is already in clinical testing, which the company began in anticipation of new variants emerging over time.</p>\n<p>The Omicron variant was identified last week by scientists in South Africa, prompting drug researchers to scramble to see if the relatively small medicine chest of Covid-19 treatments would still work against the new strain if it ends up spreading widely.</p>\n<p>“What we have to admit is, in the course of the past six days, our urgency has increased,” Dr. Yancopoulos said in an interview. “What started out as a backup plan has now been made a lot more urgent.”</p>\n<p>Scientists at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle found that individual mutations from Omicron reduced or eliminated the ability of Regeneron’s and Lilly’s drugs to attach to the virus, said Allie Greaney, a Ph.D. candidate at the center and the University of Washington in Seattle.</p>\n<p>More comprehensive tests of the drugs against the entire variant are needed to fully understand the impact, she said. “I’m not certain what the exact magnitude of effect would be, but probably less effective,” said Ms. Greaney.</p>\n<p>Lilly is in the process of testing the new variant against its drug, a combination of&nbsp;two antibodies called bamlanivimab and etesevimab,said Nicole Kallewaard, a Lilly virologist and research adviser.</p>\n<p>She declined to comment on the results showing reduced effectiveness against individual Omicron mutations, because the results may differ when all of the mutations are combined.</p>\n<p>“I think that we need to wait for confirmation of the whole virus,” said Dr. Kallewaard. “Hopefully, the data will come in the next few weeks.”</p>\n<p>A rise in the prevalence of Omicron could present an opportunity for competitors who say their drugs don’t appear in preliminary testing to be affected by the variant, including&nbsp;Vir Biotechnology&nbsp;Inc.&nbsp;and GlaxoSmithKline PLC, whose drug&nbsp;sotrovimab was authorized for emergency use&nbsp;earlier this year.</p>\n<p>Fred Hutchinson researchers also said their initial testing indicated the Vir-GSK antibody drug retained its effectiveness.</p>\n<p>Adagio Therapeutics&nbsp;Inc.,a biotech with a Covid-19 antibody drug in clinical trials, said its antibody also appears to be unaffected by the new variant.</p>\n<p>Vir, Glaxo and Adagio said they are conducting further tests to confirm that their drugs aren’t affected by Omicron.</p>\n<p>Omicron poses a threat to lab-made antibody drugs as well as antibodies generated by vaccines, because the new variant has mutations on the spike protein part of the virus where antibodies are known to frequently attach themselves, scientists say.</p>\n<p>Vir and Adagio officials said the companies designed their antibodies with the aim of targeting spots on the virus that are common across different coronaviruses that remained stable even after numerous mutations over many years.</p>\n<p>“They bind to a region of the virus that through decades of evolution has not changed a lot,” Adagio Chief Executive Tillman Gerngross said in an interview. “Those conserved areas make the virus much more vulnerable” to antibodies.</p>\n<p>It will take at least two weeks to create a version of the full Omicron virus variant and test antibody drugs against it, company officials said. Still, scientists say they are concerned by what they know already about the variant’s ability to evade antibodies produced by vaccines, prior infection or from drug treatment.</p>\n<p>“Omicron hasn’t become the next Delta,” Vir Chief Scientific Officer Skip Virgin said in an interview. But “we think the extent of the mutations, the number of them, means that the world needs to take Omicron very seriously.”</p>\n<p>Antiviral drugs, including pills from&nbsp;Merck&amp; Co. and partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP and from&nbsp;Pfizer&nbsp;Inc.&nbsp;that are being&nbsp;evaluated for authorization,appear to be unaffected by the variant because they target a different site on the virus, said Michel Nussenzweig, an immunologist at Rockefeller University.</p>\n<p>Doctors and patients have been looking forward to authorization of the pills, which in clinical trials have&nbsp;reduced the risk of hospitalization&nbsp;if taken early enough.</p>\n<p>“The targets of the pills appear to be under less pressure and may be OK, but this too needs to be tested,” said Dr. Nussenzweig.</p>\n<p>Pfizer and Merck said they expect their drugs to be effective against Omicron.</p>\n<p>Gilead SciencesInc.&nbsp;also said it expects&nbsp;Veklury, its antiviral drug&nbsp;used to treat hospitalized patients, to retain effectiveness against Omicron as it has against other variants of concern.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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Lilly said it is testing the new variant against its antibody treatment and wouldn’t speculate on what the results will be.\nThe findings are the early results of researchers’ race to assess the impact of the new Omicron variant on Covid-19 treatments that patients, doctors and hospitals have been relying on, as well as pills in development that have promised to keep people out of the hospital.\nResearchers say some antibody therapies are likely to be especially vulnerable to Omicron because it contains mutations to the spike protein that the Regeneron and Lilly drugs target, while other drugs should hold up well because they attack elements of the virus unchanged in the variant.\nMonoclonal antibodies are lab-made molecules derived from survivors of Covid-19 or mice engineered to have human immune systems. When given soon after infection, the drugs attach to the surface of the coronavirus and prevent it from replicating itself in new cells.\nThey are the only drugs authorized to treat patients, before they require hospitalization, who are at high risk of developing severe cases.\nThe drugs differ from vaccines, which train the immune system how to defend against the virus, including with the production of antibodies. Last year, former President Donald Trump credited Regeneron’s drug with his speedy recovery from Covid-19.\nRegeneron said it would be able to quantify the impact of the variant in coming weeks, after further testing is done.\nAntiviral pills such as Pfizer’s Paxlovid appear to be unaffected by the variant.\nIf final testing shows that its antibody drugs are less effective against Omicron, Regeneron has developed alternative antibodies that it can push into clinical testing and that it thinks will retain effectiveness against the variant, said George Yancopoulos, the company’s president and chief scientific officer.\nOne of Regeneron’s alternative antibodies is already in clinical testing, which the company began in anticipation of new variants emerging over time.\nThe Omicron variant was identified last week by scientists in South Africa, prompting drug researchers to scramble to see if the relatively small medicine chest of Covid-19 treatments would still work against the new strain if it ends up spreading widely.\n“What we have to admit is, in the course of the past six days, our urgency has increased,” Dr. Yancopoulos said in an interview. “What started out as a backup plan has now been made a lot more urgent.”\nScientists at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle found that individual mutations from Omicron reduced or eliminated the ability of Regeneron’s and Lilly’s drugs to attach to the virus, said Allie Greaney, a Ph.D. candidate at the center and the University of Washington in Seattle.\nMore comprehensive tests of the drugs against the entire variant are needed to fully understand the impact, she said. “I’m not certain what the exact magnitude of effect would be, but probably less effective,” said Ms. Greaney.\nLilly is in the process of testing the new variant against its drug, a combination of two antibodies called bamlanivimab and etesevimab,said Nicole Kallewaard, a Lilly virologist and research adviser.\nShe declined to comment on the results showing reduced effectiveness against individual Omicron mutations, because the results may differ when all of the mutations are combined.\n“I think that we need to wait for confirmation of the whole virus,” said Dr. Kallewaard. “Hopefully, the data will come in the next few weeks.”\nA rise in the prevalence of Omicron could present an opportunity for competitors who say their drugs don’t appear in preliminary testing to be affected by the variant, including Vir Biotechnology Inc. and GlaxoSmithKline PLC, whose drug sotrovimab was authorized for emergency use earlier this year.\nFred Hutchinson researchers also said their initial testing indicated the Vir-GSK antibody drug retained its effectiveness.\nAdagio Therapeutics Inc.,a biotech with a Covid-19 antibody drug in clinical trials, said its antibody also appears to be unaffected by the new variant.\nVir, Glaxo and Adagio said they are conducting further tests to confirm that their drugs aren’t affected by Omicron.\nOmicron poses a threat to lab-made antibody drugs as well as antibodies generated by vaccines, because the new variant has mutations on the spike protein part of the virus where antibodies are known to frequently attach themselves, scientists say.\nVir and Adagio officials said the companies designed their antibodies with the aim of targeting spots on the virus that are common across different coronaviruses that remained stable even after numerous mutations over many years.\n“They bind to a region of the virus that through decades of evolution has not changed a lot,” Adagio Chief Executive Tillman Gerngross said in an interview. “Those conserved areas make the virus much more vulnerable” to antibodies.\nIt will take at least two weeks to create a version of the full Omicron virus variant and test antibody drugs against it, company officials said. Still, scientists say they are concerned by what they know already about the variant’s ability to evade antibodies produced by vaccines, prior infection or from drug treatment.\n“Omicron hasn’t become the next Delta,” Vir Chief Scientific Officer Skip Virgin said in an interview. But “we think the extent of the mutations, the number of them, means that the world needs to take Omicron very seriously.”\nAntiviral drugs, including pills from Merck& Co. and partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP and from Pfizer Inc. that are being evaluated for authorization,appear to be unaffected by the variant because they target a different site on the virus, said Michel Nussenzweig, an immunologist at Rockefeller University.\nDoctors and patients have been looking forward to authorization of the pills, which in clinical trials have reduced the risk of hospitalization if taken early enough.\n“The targets of the pills appear to be under less pressure and may be OK, but this too needs to be tested,” said Dr. Nussenzweig.\nPfizer and Merck said they expect their drugs to be effective against Omicron.\nGilead SciencesInc. also said it expects Veklury, its antiviral drug used to treat hospitalized patients, to retain effectiveness against Omicron as it has against other variants of concern.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":902,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":841625251,"gmtCreate":1635908578139,"gmtModify":1635908578139,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3585191808723701","idStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"If you want to buy, just be patient.","listText":"If you want to buy, just be patient.","text":"If you want to buy, just be patient.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/841625251","repostId":"1119852155","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":668,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":166247231,"gmtCreate":1624014610123,"gmtModify":1634024115628,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3585191808723701","idStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"[强]&nbsp;","listText":"[强]&nbsp;","text":"[强]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/166247231","repostId":"1148576248","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1148576248","pubTimestamp":1623979883,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1148576248?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-18 09:31","market":"us","language":"en","title":"NIO Is Winning","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1148576248","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"NIO is #1 in China's electric SUV market for good reason.The company's success is driven by its brilliant innovations and marketing strategy.NIO is growing faster than Tesla, and yet, it is trading at a discount.NIO Inc.  stands out for its strong market position- #1 market share in electric SUV in China- and innovation in the rapidly growing and highly competitive electric vehicle industry. This article will discuss why NIO is winning against some stiff competition, including against Tesla .In ","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>NIO is #1 in China's electric SUV market for good reason.</li>\n <li>The company's success is driven by its brilliant innovations and marketing strategy.</li>\n <li>NIO is growing faster than Tesla, and yet, it is trading at a discount.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/790fae23b830463fec748d2deb2ce336\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>PonyWang/E+ via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p>NIO Inc. (NYSE:NIO) stands out for its strong market position- #1 market share in electric SUV in China- and innovation in the rapidly growing and highly competitive electric vehicle industry. This article will discuss why NIO is winning against some stiff competition, including against Tesla (TSLA).</p>\n<p>In addition, we will discuss NIO's business, financials, trading, valuation, and risks so readers could reach their own informed decision.</p>\n<p><b>Business: Why NIO Wins</b></p>\n<p>NIO positions itself in the premium SUV segment, focusing on smart EVs with a differentiated battery strategy.</p>\n<p>Delivered in March 2019, the company's first model, the ES8, is a luxury 7-seater SUV that is still the company's flagship product today. The ES8 is equipped with ADAS and AI system [NOMI] and is comparable to the BYD Song, Tesla Model X, the Audi Q7 45 e-Tron, etc.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443e2773f70c00c6faac8ca063e978a5\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"387\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p>\n<p>Leveraging the installed base and customer goodwill due to the highly successful ES8, NIO successfully launched the ES6 and EC6.Recently, the company launched the ET7, its first sedan.</p>\n<p>Today, NIO is the top-selling brand in China's all-electric SUV market in April with a 23% market share, higher than Tesla's 17%, WM Motor and XPeng Motors'(NYSE:XPEV)7%, according to China Automotive Technology and Research Center data.</p>\n<p>One of the biggest competitive differentiators is NIO'sbattery strategy, which all but eliminates range anxiety, one of the biggest barriers to mass EV adoption. Not only could NIO cars be charged at any charging station for EVs, but the company also built hundreds of battery swapping stations in key cities in China, with plans to expanding to Europe.</p>\n<p>NIO's battery swapping strategy also gives the company the ability to offer a battery-as-a-service [BaaS] solution, which reduces the upfrontcostof purchasing an NIO vehicle by ~$11,000. Since cost is another major barrier to mass EV adoption, NIO's battery strategy appears brilliant as it solves both the range and cost problems.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5b25fbb85bffd39310cd27cbb2bde57a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"216\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p>\n<p>Another differentiator is the NIO brand, which management created brilliantly by introducing the EP9 in 2016. Six EP9s have been sold to NIO investors for 2.5 million pounds, creating an aura of exclusivity and quality around the brand. Next, NIO targeted the mass-market luxury SUV segment with the ES8, firmly establishing the company as a luxury car OEM.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ad41c960ce02f1e3f3e7575ac00beee0\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"350\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p>\n<p>Chinese companies must struggle against the common perception that they make low-quality products. This is the same perception issue that Japanese companies faced following their defeat after WW2. Japan solved this problem by moving up the value chain as their economy matured and creating high-quality brands such as Sony(NYSE:SONY). Today, Japan is known for its craftsmanship.</p>\n<p>China is following the same trajectory, and NIO is one of the emerging brands destroying the perception that \"made in China\" equates to poor quality. I strongly believe that investors who stubbornly hold on to that old perception will miss out on investing in some of the greatest brands the world will ever see.</p>\n<p>Buying an NIO car means much more than just getting a vehicle; it means getting into an exclusive club of services and convenience. Benefits include access to hundreds of swapping stations, lifetime free roadside rescue (including charge vans), lifetime free cellular connectivity, lifetime free warranty, and excellent customer service. This is a powerful selling point for NIO, differentiating it from Tesla, which hasrecentlydeveloped a poor reputation on the customer service front in China.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a73482aa0431694b760ab5c2d0aa6f53\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"211\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p>\n<p>The company is pushing the envelope even further with&nbsp;NIO House, a literal clubhouse for customers, and&nbsp;NIO Life, which includes NIO branded lifestyle products. NIO's effort to build a lifestyle around its cars seems to be&nbsp;working. This is good news for investors because the only way to escape the competitive battlefield of automobile OEM is to sell services and lifestyles to customers. This is why Ferrari's (RACE) operating margin is well over 20%, while Ford (F) and General Motors (GM) are in the single digits.</p>\n<p><b>Financials &amp; Valuation</b></p>\n<p>NIO is in hyper-growth mode. In 2020, the company generated $2.5 billion in revenue, up 126% y/y. In 2021, the company is expected to grow 117% y/y to $5.4 billion.</p>\n<p>The company is not yet profitable but is expected to be by 2022. Gross margin only turned positive in 2020 and is expected to be 19.3% in 2021. EBITDA is expected to be negative $258 million in 2021 and a positive $206 million in 2022. Free cash flow is expected to be negative $42 million in 2021 before turning to a positive $354 million in 2022.</p>\n<p>However, despite the cash burn expected in 2021, investors should feel at ease since the company exited&nbsp;2020&nbsp;with $5.9 billion of cash and cash equivalents. Including $600 million in short-term investments and subtracting ~$2.1 billion in debt and operating leases and the expected negative free cash flow in 2021, NIO should exit 2021 with over $4 billion in net cash and investments. That is plenty of buffers since NIO is expected to generate positive free cash flow in 2022.</p>\n<p>Since NIO is not yet profitable, we will look at the forward EV/Sales multiple as is typical for hyper-growth companies not yet generating a profit. The company went public in September 2018, trading at around 7 to 8 times EV/Sales, before bottoming out at around 0.7 times sales in May 2019. The market, however, caught the EV fever in April 2020 and sent NIO's valuation soaring to a peak of 14.6x by January 2021. After the growth sell-off we recently experienced, NIO is currently sitting at a much more reasonable 8 times forward sales. This is a significant discount to TSLA's 10.2 times forward EV/Sales despite growing twice as fast (TSLA is expected to grow revenues by 57% in 2021 compared to NIO's 117%).</p>\n<p><b>Risks</b></p>\n<p>There are many risks associated with owning NIO.</p>\n<p>Although its battery swapping strategy is highly differentiated and seems to be growing rapidly, the jury is still out on the ultimate market share of battery swapping or fast-charging infrastructure. If fast charging technology continues to advance significantly, it will likely erode a key advantage of battery swapping: speed.</p>\n<p>NIO's business model is innovative and new. Unfortunately, the flip side of that is that it is untested, and NIO remains unprofitable. For many investors, NIO will remain a \"show me\" story until the profitability of its business model improves.</p>\n<p>NIO's ability to expand globally may be limited by the rising geopolitical tension between China and the US, and to a lesser extent, with Japan and Europe. The geopolitical situation remains highly opaque and uncertain, and is a risk factor for all auto OEMs.</p>\n<p>Auto OEMs are currently facing a severe chip&nbsp;shortage. In addition, the chip density in automobiles is increasing, making the OEMs increasingly reliant on semiconductor suppliers and foundries.</p>\n<p>NIO's competitive advantages may not overcome the massive scale advantage of ICE OEMs and much bigger EV players like Tesla and China's BYD.</p>\n<p><b>Takeaway</b></p>\n<p>NIO's technical and business model innovations make it a highly differentiated company in the exciting and rapidly growing EV market. The company is winning, and its competitive moat is getting bigger as its ecosystem of vehicles and services grows. Relative to the industry leader, Tesla, NIO's stock price seems like a bargain given its faster growth rate and lower multiples.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>NIO Is Winning</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nNIO Is Winning\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-18 09:31 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4435341-nio-is-winning><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nNIO is #1 in China's electric SUV market for good reason.\nThe company's success is driven by its brilliant innovations and marketing strategy.\nNIO is growing faster than Tesla, and yet, it is...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4435341-nio-is-winning\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NIO":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4435341-nio-is-winning","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1148576248","content_text":"Summary\n\nNIO is #1 in China's electric SUV market for good reason.\nThe company's success is driven by its brilliant innovations and marketing strategy.\nNIO is growing faster than Tesla, and yet, it is trading at a discount.\n\nPonyWang/E+ via Getty Images\nNIO Inc. (NYSE:NIO) stands out for its strong market position- #1 market share in electric SUV in China- and innovation in the rapidly growing and highly competitive electric vehicle industry. This article will discuss why NIO is winning against some stiff competition, including against Tesla (TSLA).\nIn addition, we will discuss NIO's business, financials, trading, valuation, and risks so readers could reach their own informed decision.\nBusiness: Why NIO Wins\nNIO positions itself in the premium SUV segment, focusing on smart EVs with a differentiated battery strategy.\nDelivered in March 2019, the company's first model, the ES8, is a luxury 7-seater SUV that is still the company's flagship product today. The ES8 is equipped with ADAS and AI system [NOMI] and is comparable to the BYD Song, Tesla Model X, the Audi Q7 45 e-Tron, etc.\nSource: Company\nLeveraging the installed base and customer goodwill due to the highly successful ES8, NIO successfully launched the ES6 and EC6.Recently, the company launched the ET7, its first sedan.\nToday, NIO is the top-selling brand in China's all-electric SUV market in April with a 23% market share, higher than Tesla's 17%, WM Motor and XPeng Motors'(NYSE:XPEV)7%, according to China Automotive Technology and Research Center data.\nOne of the biggest competitive differentiators is NIO'sbattery strategy, which all but eliminates range anxiety, one of the biggest barriers to mass EV adoption. Not only could NIO cars be charged at any charging station for EVs, but the company also built hundreds of battery swapping stations in key cities in China, with plans to expanding to Europe.\nNIO's battery swapping strategy also gives the company the ability to offer a battery-as-a-service [BaaS] solution, which reduces the upfrontcostof purchasing an NIO vehicle by ~$11,000. Since cost is another major barrier to mass EV adoption, NIO's battery strategy appears brilliant as it solves both the range and cost problems.\nSource: Company\nAnother differentiator is the NIO brand, which management created brilliantly by introducing the EP9 in 2016. Six EP9s have been sold to NIO investors for 2.5 million pounds, creating an aura of exclusivity and quality around the brand. Next, NIO targeted the mass-market luxury SUV segment with the ES8, firmly establishing the company as a luxury car OEM.\nSource: Company\nChinese companies must struggle against the common perception that they make low-quality products. This is the same perception issue that Japanese companies faced following their defeat after WW2. Japan solved this problem by moving up the value chain as their economy matured and creating high-quality brands such as Sony(NYSE:SONY). Today, Japan is known for its craftsmanship.\nChina is following the same trajectory, and NIO is one of the emerging brands destroying the perception that \"made in China\" equates to poor quality. I strongly believe that investors who stubbornly hold on to that old perception will miss out on investing in some of the greatest brands the world will ever see.\nBuying an NIO car means much more than just getting a vehicle; it means getting into an exclusive club of services and convenience. Benefits include access to hundreds of swapping stations, lifetime free roadside rescue (including charge vans), lifetime free cellular connectivity, lifetime free warranty, and excellent customer service. This is a powerful selling point for NIO, differentiating it from Tesla, which hasrecentlydeveloped a poor reputation on the customer service front in China.\nSource: Company\nThe company is pushing the envelope even further with NIO House, a literal clubhouse for customers, and NIO Life, which includes NIO branded lifestyle products. NIO's effort to build a lifestyle around its cars seems to be working. This is good news for investors because the only way to escape the competitive battlefield of automobile OEM is to sell services and lifestyles to customers. This is why Ferrari's (RACE) operating margin is well over 20%, while Ford (F) and General Motors (GM) are in the single digits.\nFinancials & Valuation\nNIO is in hyper-growth mode. In 2020, the company generated $2.5 billion in revenue, up 126% y/y. In 2021, the company is expected to grow 117% y/y to $5.4 billion.\nThe company is not yet profitable but is expected to be by 2022. Gross margin only turned positive in 2020 and is expected to be 19.3% in 2021. EBITDA is expected to be negative $258 million in 2021 and a positive $206 million in 2022. Free cash flow is expected to be negative $42 million in 2021 before turning to a positive $354 million in 2022.\nHowever, despite the cash burn expected in 2021, investors should feel at ease since the company exited 2020 with $5.9 billion of cash and cash equivalents. Including $600 million in short-term investments and subtracting ~$2.1 billion in debt and operating leases and the expected negative free cash flow in 2021, NIO should exit 2021 with over $4 billion in net cash and investments. That is plenty of buffers since NIO is expected to generate positive free cash flow in 2022.\nSince NIO is not yet profitable, we will look at the forward EV/Sales multiple as is typical for hyper-growth companies not yet generating a profit. The company went public in September 2018, trading at around 7 to 8 times EV/Sales, before bottoming out at around 0.7 times sales in May 2019. The market, however, caught the EV fever in April 2020 and sent NIO's valuation soaring to a peak of 14.6x by January 2021. After the growth sell-off we recently experienced, NIO is currently sitting at a much more reasonable 8 times forward sales. This is a significant discount to TSLA's 10.2 times forward EV/Sales despite growing twice as fast (TSLA is expected to grow revenues by 57% in 2021 compared to NIO's 117%).\nRisks\nThere are many risks associated with owning NIO.\nAlthough its battery swapping strategy is highly differentiated and seems to be growing rapidly, the jury is still out on the ultimate market share of battery swapping or fast-charging infrastructure. If fast charging technology continues to advance significantly, it will likely erode a key advantage of battery swapping: speed.\nNIO's business model is innovative and new. Unfortunately, the flip side of that is that it is untested, and NIO remains unprofitable. For many investors, NIO will remain a \"show me\" story until the profitability of its business model improves.\nNIO's ability to expand globally may be limited by the rising geopolitical tension between China and the US, and to a lesser extent, with Japan and Europe. The geopolitical situation remains highly opaque and uncertain, and is a risk factor for all auto OEMs.\nAuto OEMs are currently facing a severe chip shortage. In addition, the chip density in automobiles is increasing, making the OEMs increasingly reliant on semiconductor suppliers and foundries.\nNIO's competitive advantages may not overcome the massive scale advantage of ICE OEMs and much bigger EV players like Tesla and China's BYD.\nTakeaway\nNIO's technical and business model innovations make it a highly differentiated company in the exciting and rapidly growing EV market. The company is winning, and its competitive moat is getting bigger as its ecosystem of vehicles and services grows. Relative to the industry leader, Tesla, NIO's stock price seems like a bargain given its faster growth rate and lower multiples.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":996,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"hots":[{"id":605202368,"gmtCreate":1639176190615,"gmtModify":1639176190722,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3585191808723701","authorIdStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"In a way ,it is a good problems. Shows that they have plenty of orders.","listText":"In a way ,it is a good problems. Shows that they have plenty of orders.","text":"In a way ,it is a good problems. Shows that they have plenty of orders.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/605202368","repostId":"1165282830","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":710,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":609693475,"gmtCreate":1638274892283,"gmtModify":1638274892283,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3585191808723701","authorIdStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"It's going to take some time before we know how bad it will be.","listText":"It's going to take some time before we know how bad it will be.","text":"It's going to take some time before we know how bad it will be.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/609693475","repostId":"1192203085","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1192203085","pubTimestamp":1638273550,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1192203085?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-30 19:59","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Covid-19 Antibody Drugs Are Challenged by Omicron, Preliminary Testing Indicates","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1192203085","media":"The Wall Street Journal","summary":"Regeneron said its antibody drug cocktail was found to lose effectiveness against the new variant\nA ","content":"<p>Regeneron said its antibody drug cocktail was found to lose effectiveness against the new variant</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ed6086131617e6933fe07f3e46cd5c26\" tg-width=\"1290\" tg-height=\"859\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>A monoclonal antibody treatment site in Pembroke Pines, Fla., earlier this year.</span></p>\n<p>Preliminary tests indicate the Covid-19 antibody drug cocktail from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. loses effectiveness against Omicron, the company said Tuesday, a sign that some products in an important class of therapies might need modifying if the new strain becomes widespread.</p>\n<p>Separate testing of another authorized Covid-19 antibody drug cocktail, from&nbsp;Eli Lilly&amp; Co., indicates it also isn’t as effective against Omicron, outside scientists said. Lilly said it is testing the new variant against its antibody treatment and wouldn’t speculate on what the results will be.</p>\n<p>The findings are the early results of researchers’ race to assess the impact of the&nbsp;new Omicron variant&nbsp;on Covid-19 treatments that patients, doctors and hospitals have been relying on, as well as pills in development that have promised to keep people out of the hospital.</p>\n<p>Researchers say some antibody therapies are likely to be especially vulnerable to Omicron because it contains mutations to the spike protein that the Regeneron and Lilly drugs target, while other drugs should hold up well because they attack elements of the virus unchanged in the variant.</p>\n<p>Monoclonal antibodies are lab-made molecules derived from survivors of Covid-19 or mice engineered to have human immune systems. When given soon after infection, the drugs attach to the surface of the coronavirus and prevent it from replicating itself in new cells.</p>\n<p>They are the only drugs authorized to treat patients, before they require hospitalization, who are at high risk of developing severe cases.</p>\n<p>The drugs differ from vaccines, which train the immune system how to defend against the virus, including with the production of antibodies. Last year, former&nbsp;President Donald Trump credited Regeneron’s drug&nbsp;with his speedy recovery from Covid-19.</p>\n<p>Regeneron said it would be able to quantify the impact of the variant in coming weeks, after further testing is done.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6e7fac5c4630025e6c5ad28d2c3efbfa\" tg-width=\"1050\" tg-height=\"700\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Antiviral pills such as Pfizer’s Paxlovid appear to be unaffected by the variant.</span></p>\n<p>If final testing shows that its antibody drugs are less effective against Omicron, Regeneron has developed alternative antibodies that it can push into clinical testing and that it thinks will retain effectiveness against the variant, said George Yancopoulos, the company’s president and chief scientific officer.</p>\n<p>One of Regeneron’s alternative antibodies is already in clinical testing, which the company began in anticipation of new variants emerging over time.</p>\n<p>The Omicron variant was identified last week by scientists in South Africa, prompting drug researchers to scramble to see if the relatively small medicine chest of Covid-19 treatments would still work against the new strain if it ends up spreading widely.</p>\n<p>“What we have to admit is, in the course of the past six days, our urgency has increased,” Dr. Yancopoulos said in an interview. “What started out as a backup plan has now been made a lot more urgent.”</p>\n<p>Scientists at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle found that individual mutations from Omicron reduced or eliminated the ability of Regeneron’s and Lilly’s drugs to attach to the virus, said Allie Greaney, a Ph.D. candidate at the center and the University of Washington in Seattle.</p>\n<p>More comprehensive tests of the drugs against the entire variant are needed to fully understand the impact, she said. “I’m not certain what the exact magnitude of effect would be, but probably less effective,” said Ms. Greaney.</p>\n<p>Lilly is in the process of testing the new variant against its drug, a combination of&nbsp;two antibodies called bamlanivimab and etesevimab,said Nicole Kallewaard, a Lilly virologist and research adviser.</p>\n<p>She declined to comment on the results showing reduced effectiveness against individual Omicron mutations, because the results may differ when all of the mutations are combined.</p>\n<p>“I think that we need to wait for confirmation of the whole virus,” said Dr. Kallewaard. “Hopefully, the data will come in the next few weeks.”</p>\n<p>A rise in the prevalence of Omicron could present an opportunity for competitors who say their drugs don’t appear in preliminary testing to be affected by the variant, including&nbsp;Vir Biotechnology&nbsp;Inc.&nbsp;and GlaxoSmithKline PLC, whose drug&nbsp;sotrovimab was authorized for emergency use&nbsp;earlier this year.</p>\n<p>Fred Hutchinson researchers also said their initial testing indicated the Vir-GSK antibody drug retained its effectiveness.</p>\n<p>Adagio Therapeutics&nbsp;Inc.,a biotech with a Covid-19 antibody drug in clinical trials, said its antibody also appears to be unaffected by the new variant.</p>\n<p>Vir, Glaxo and Adagio said they are conducting further tests to confirm that their drugs aren’t affected by Omicron.</p>\n<p>Omicron poses a threat to lab-made antibody drugs as well as antibodies generated by vaccines, because the new variant has mutations on the spike protein part of the virus where antibodies are known to frequently attach themselves, scientists say.</p>\n<p>Vir and Adagio officials said the companies designed their antibodies with the aim of targeting spots on the virus that are common across different coronaviruses that remained stable even after numerous mutations over many years.</p>\n<p>“They bind to a region of the virus that through decades of evolution has not changed a lot,” Adagio Chief Executive Tillman Gerngross said in an interview. “Those conserved areas make the virus much more vulnerable” to antibodies.</p>\n<p>It will take at least two weeks to create a version of the full Omicron virus variant and test antibody drugs against it, company officials said. Still, scientists say they are concerned by what they know already about the variant’s ability to evade antibodies produced by vaccines, prior infection or from drug treatment.</p>\n<p>“Omicron hasn’t become the next Delta,” Vir Chief Scientific Officer Skip Virgin said in an interview. But “we think the extent of the mutations, the number of them, means that the world needs to take Omicron very seriously.”</p>\n<p>Antiviral drugs, including pills from&nbsp;Merck&amp; Co. and partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP and from&nbsp;Pfizer&nbsp;Inc.&nbsp;that are being&nbsp;evaluated for authorization,appear to be unaffected by the variant because they target a different site on the virus, said Michel Nussenzweig, an immunologist at Rockefeller University.</p>\n<p>Doctors and patients have been looking forward to authorization of the pills, which in clinical trials have&nbsp;reduced the risk of hospitalization&nbsp;if taken early enough.</p>\n<p>“The targets of the pills appear to be under less pressure and may be OK, but this too needs to be tested,” said Dr. Nussenzweig.</p>\n<p>Pfizer and Merck said they expect their drugs to be effective against Omicron.</p>\n<p>Gilead SciencesInc.&nbsp;also said it expects&nbsp;Veklury, its antiviral drug&nbsp;used to treat hospitalized patients, to retain effectiveness against Omicron as it has against other variants of concern.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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Lilly said it is testing the new variant against its antibody treatment and wouldn’t speculate on what the results will be.\nThe findings are the early results of researchers’ race to assess the impact of the new Omicron variant on Covid-19 treatments that patients, doctors and hospitals have been relying on, as well as pills in development that have promised to keep people out of the hospital.\nResearchers say some antibody therapies are likely to be especially vulnerable to Omicron because it contains mutations to the spike protein that the Regeneron and Lilly drugs target, while other drugs should hold up well because they attack elements of the virus unchanged in the variant.\nMonoclonal antibodies are lab-made molecules derived from survivors of Covid-19 or mice engineered to have human immune systems. When given soon after infection, the drugs attach to the surface of the coronavirus and prevent it from replicating itself in new cells.\nThey are the only drugs authorized to treat patients, before they require hospitalization, who are at high risk of developing severe cases.\nThe drugs differ from vaccines, which train the immune system how to defend against the virus, including with the production of antibodies. Last year, former President Donald Trump credited Regeneron’s drug with his speedy recovery from Covid-19.\nRegeneron said it would be able to quantify the impact of the variant in coming weeks, after further testing is done.\nAntiviral pills such as Pfizer’s Paxlovid appear to be unaffected by the variant.\nIf final testing shows that its antibody drugs are less effective against Omicron, Regeneron has developed alternative antibodies that it can push into clinical testing and that it thinks will retain effectiveness against the variant, said George Yancopoulos, the company’s president and chief scientific officer.\nOne of Regeneron’s alternative antibodies is already in clinical testing, which the company began in anticipation of new variants emerging over time.\nThe Omicron variant was identified last week by scientists in South Africa, prompting drug researchers to scramble to see if the relatively small medicine chest of Covid-19 treatments would still work against the new strain if it ends up spreading widely.\n“What we have to admit is, in the course of the past six days, our urgency has increased,” Dr. Yancopoulos said in an interview. “What started out as a backup plan has now been made a lot more urgent.”\nScientists at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle found that individual mutations from Omicron reduced or eliminated the ability of Regeneron’s and Lilly’s drugs to attach to the virus, said Allie Greaney, a Ph.D. candidate at the center and the University of Washington in Seattle.\nMore comprehensive tests of the drugs against the entire variant are needed to fully understand the impact, she said. “I’m not certain what the exact magnitude of effect would be, but probably less effective,” said Ms. Greaney.\nLilly is in the process of testing the new variant against its drug, a combination of two antibodies called bamlanivimab and etesevimab,said Nicole Kallewaard, a Lilly virologist and research adviser.\nShe declined to comment on the results showing reduced effectiveness against individual Omicron mutations, because the results may differ when all of the mutations are combined.\n“I think that we need to wait for confirmation of the whole virus,” said Dr. Kallewaard. “Hopefully, the data will come in the next few weeks.”\nA rise in the prevalence of Omicron could present an opportunity for competitors who say their drugs don’t appear in preliminary testing to be affected by the variant, including Vir Biotechnology Inc. and GlaxoSmithKline PLC, whose drug sotrovimab was authorized for emergency use earlier this year.\nFred Hutchinson researchers also said their initial testing indicated the Vir-GSK antibody drug retained its effectiveness.\nAdagio Therapeutics Inc.,a biotech with a Covid-19 antibody drug in clinical trials, said its antibody also appears to be unaffected by the new variant.\nVir, Glaxo and Adagio said they are conducting further tests to confirm that their drugs aren’t affected by Omicron.\nOmicron poses a threat to lab-made antibody drugs as well as antibodies generated by vaccines, because the new variant has mutations on the spike protein part of the virus where antibodies are known to frequently attach themselves, scientists say.\nVir and Adagio officials said the companies designed their antibodies with the aim of targeting spots on the virus that are common across different coronaviruses that remained stable even after numerous mutations over many years.\n“They bind to a region of the virus that through decades of evolution has not changed a lot,” Adagio Chief Executive Tillman Gerngross said in an interview. “Those conserved areas make the virus much more vulnerable” to antibodies.\nIt will take at least two weeks to create a version of the full Omicron virus variant and test antibody drugs against it, company officials said. Still, scientists say they are concerned by what they know already about the variant’s ability to evade antibodies produced by vaccines, prior infection or from drug treatment.\n“Omicron hasn’t become the next Delta,” Vir Chief Scientific Officer Skip Virgin said in an interview. But “we think the extent of the mutations, the number of them, means that the world needs to take Omicron very seriously.”\nAntiviral drugs, including pills from Merck& Co. and partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP and from Pfizer Inc. that are being evaluated for authorization,appear to be unaffected by the variant because they target a different site on the virus, said Michel Nussenzweig, an immunologist at Rockefeller University.\nDoctors and patients have been looking forward to authorization of the pills, which in clinical trials have reduced the risk of hospitalization if taken early enough.\n“The targets of the pills appear to be under less pressure and may be OK, but this too needs to be tested,” said Dr. Nussenzweig.\nPfizer and Merck said they expect their drugs to be effective against Omicron.\nGilead SciencesInc. also said it expects Veklury, its antiviral drug used to treat hospitalized patients, to retain effectiveness against Omicron as it has against other variants of concern.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":902,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":841625251,"gmtCreate":1635908578139,"gmtModify":1635908578139,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3585191808723701","authorIdStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"If you want to buy, just be patient.","listText":"If you want to buy, just be patient.","text":"If you want to buy, just be patient.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/841625251","repostId":"1119852155","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1119852155","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1635844360,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1119852155?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-02 17:12","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1119852155","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading Tuesday after four consecutive days of gains.El","content":"<p>Tesla stock dipped more&nbsp;than&nbsp;6% in premarket trading&nbsp;Tuesday&nbsp;after four consecutive days of gains.Elon Musk said&nbsp;Tesla Inc.&nbsp;hasn’t yet signed a contract with&nbsp;Hertz Global Holdings Inc..In additionTesla rival Rivian seeks to raise $8.4 billion in IPO.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8355cee0e2871b4c60c1b78ebd98a7fd\" tg-width=\"848\" tg-height=\"617\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>Musk was replying to a tweet from an account named Tesla Silicon Valley Club, which showed a chart ofTesla’s rising stock price along with a thank you to the company’s chief executive officer, the world’s&nbsp;richest person.</p>\n<p>News ofHertz’s order&nbsp;on Oct. 25, only around four months after the company emerged from bankruptcy, sent Tesla’s shares up 13% on the day and its market value past $1 trillion for the first time. The rally has continued, with the stock closing at a&nbsp;record high&nbsp;in New York Monday. Hertz, which trades over the counter ahead of a relisting on the Nasdaq Stock Market, has climbed 38% since the start of last week.</p>\n<p>The order for 100,000 vehicles is equivalent to about a tenth of what Tesla can produce annually. Florida-based Hertz said it would be paying full price.</p>\n<p>“The initial interest is exceeding our expectations,” Hertz’s interim CEO Mark Fields said last week as traffic to the company’s&nbsp;website soared, especially for its Tesla rental portal. “It shows that our message got through.”</p>\n<p>Hertz has hired seven-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback Tom Brady to star in advertisements showcasing the new Teslas.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2021-11-02 17:12</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Tesla stock dipped more&nbsp;than&nbsp;6% in premarket trading&nbsp;Tuesday&nbsp;after four consecutive days of gains.Elon Musk said&nbsp;Tesla Inc.&nbsp;hasn’t yet signed a contract with&nbsp;Hertz Global Holdings Inc..In additionTesla rival Rivian seeks to raise $8.4 billion in IPO.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8355cee0e2871b4c60c1b78ebd98a7fd\" tg-width=\"848\" tg-height=\"617\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>Musk was replying to a tweet from an account named Tesla Silicon Valley Club, which showed a chart ofTesla’s rising stock price along with a thank you to the company’s chief executive officer, the world’s&nbsp;richest person.</p>\n<p>News ofHertz’s order&nbsp;on Oct. 25, only around four months after the company emerged from bankruptcy, sent Tesla’s shares up 13% on the day and its market value past $1 trillion for the first time. The rally has continued, with the stock closing at a&nbsp;record high&nbsp;in New York Monday. Hertz, which trades over the counter ahead of a relisting on the Nasdaq Stock Market, has climbed 38% since the start of last week.</p>\n<p>The order for 100,000 vehicles is equivalent to about a tenth of what Tesla can produce annually. Florida-based Hertz said it would be paying full price.</p>\n<p>“The initial interest is exceeding our expectations,” Hertz’s interim CEO Mark Fields said last week as traffic to the company’s&nbsp;website soared, especially for its Tesla rental portal. “It shows that our message got through.”</p>\n<p>Hertz has hired seven-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback Tom Brady to star in advertisements showcasing the new Teslas.</p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1119852155","content_text":"Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading Tuesday after four consecutive days of gains.Elon Musk said Tesla Inc. hasn’t yet signed a contract with Hertz Global Holdings Inc..In additionTesla rival Rivian seeks to raise $8.4 billion in IPO.\n\nMusk was replying to a tweet from an account named Tesla Silicon Valley Club, which showed a chart ofTesla’s rising stock price along with a thank you to the company’s chief executive officer, the world’s richest person.\nNews ofHertz’s order on Oct. 25, only around four months after the company emerged from bankruptcy, sent Tesla’s shares up 13% on the day and its market value past $1 trillion for the first time. The rally has continued, with the stock closing at a record high in New York Monday. Hertz, which trades over the counter ahead of a relisting on the Nasdaq Stock Market, has climbed 38% since the start of last week.\nThe order for 100,000 vehicles is equivalent to about a tenth of what Tesla can produce annually. Florida-based Hertz said it would be paying full price.\n“The initial interest is exceeding our expectations,” Hertz’s interim CEO Mark Fields said last week as traffic to the company’s website soared, especially for its Tesla rental portal. “It shows that our message got through.”\nHertz has hired seven-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback Tom Brady to star in advertisements showcasing the new Teslas.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":668,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":166247231,"gmtCreate":1624014610123,"gmtModify":1634024115628,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3585191808723701","authorIdStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"[强]&nbsp;","listText":"[强]&nbsp;","text":"[强]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/166247231","repostId":"1148576248","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":996,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":691029041,"gmtCreate":1640099629728,"gmtModify":1640099629728,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3585191808723701","authorIdStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"If you want to buy this stock, you need to have nerves of steel.and be very patient.","listText":"If you want to buy this stock, you need to have nerves of steel.and be very patient.","text":"If you want to buy this stock, you need to have nerves of steel.and be very patient.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/691029041","repostId":"1117226796","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1117226796","pubTimestamp":1640057164,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1117226796?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-12-21 11:26","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: 3 Reasons Against It And Why It's Still A Buy","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1117226796","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Summary\n\nPalantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good ","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>Palantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.</li>\n <li>PLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.</li>\n <li>Despite some interest rate headwinds, PLTR seems like a good investment to me, thanks to a strong moat and great growth outlook.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7230cdd890b86f9941b99b1503d04049\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1044\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>spxChrome/E+ via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Article Thesis</b></p>\n<p>Palantir Technologies (PLTR) is an embattled growth stock, and in recent weeks, bears have been winning as shares continued to decline. There are, indeed some important bear arguments, such as dilution, reliance on government contracts, and rising interest rates. I do, however, still believe that Palantir Technologies is an attractive long-term investment, due to the act that its technology could lead to massive growth for many years to come.</p>\n<p><b>3 Issues Brought Up By Bears</b></p>\n<p>Palantir is a growth stock that brings out highly convinced bulls as well as highly convinced bears. Generally, I am in the bullish camp here, but taking a look at the bear arguments can be a good idea as well. Three of the most common arguments against Palantir are the following ones:</p>\n<p><b>1. Shareholder Dilution</b></p>\n<p>Growth on a company-wide basis is important, but growth on a per-share basis is even more important. There are many examples that show that changes in a company's share count can create or destroy a lot of shareholder value. Apple (AAPL), for example, has seen its net income grow by roughly 190% over the last decade:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2b5263c8346cfbbb898f1d1ac9a5bead\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>Thanks to a declining share count, its earnings per share rose by a much more attractive 350%, however -- buybacks created a lot of shareholder value. There are also examples where a rising share count destroyed a lot of shareholder value, e.g. at Citigroup (C):</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fc39008812f5e2d0082dedc95b025c68\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>Massive share issuance during the Great Recession has resulted in a 75% earnings per share decline since 2007, even though net profits were up over the same time frame. Looking at the changes in a company's share count thus makes sense, as those changes can have a large impact in the long run. At Palantir, we see that the share count has been rising considerably since the company went public. During the most recent quarter, Palantir's share count looked like this:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/917ca4d7a390ced61d7c92d528f84fc1\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"539\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Palantir Press Release</span></p>\n<p>Compared to the second quarter, Palantir's average share count was&nbsp;1.895 billion, which makes for a 3.5% quarterly increase, which pencils out to an annual growth rate in the mid-teens. That is, of course, not negligible at all, and bears to have an argument when they state that shareholders get diluted at a meaningful pace. On the other hand, Palantir's business growth rate is way higher than 3% per quarter, as the company has guided for ~40% revenue growth this year, and since Palantir should also deliver outsized business growth in the coming years. Even if Palantir's share count were to climb by 10%-15% a year going forward, revenue per share would still climb by 25%+ a year thanks to the fact that PLTR is growing rapidly. I also believe that dilution will, over the years, decline. Not only has this been the case at many other growth companies, e.g. Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG), or Meta (FB), but it is also logical from an option rewards perspective. Option rewards are especially generous when a company is not yet publicly traded and when its future is still more uncertain, but as a company matures, employees get more comfortable as risks for the company decline, and they do not demand large option packages any longer. Last but not least, Palantir also generates strong free cash flows that should allow the company to do share buybacks in the future, which should help improve the dilution rate as well.</p>\n<p><b>2. Reliance on government contracts</b></p>\n<p>In a recent bearish&nbsp;article, fellow Seeking Alpha contributor On The Pulse argued that Palantir was overvalued and that its reliance on government contracts was an issue. Palantir Technologies is, indeed, reliant on government contracts to a large degree today, but I do not believe that this is a major issue. First, Palantir has diversified away from government contracts in the recent past, thanks to massive growth in its commercial business:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/de23409915ee3811691b986a42ece899\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"308\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Palantir Technologies presentation</span></p>\n<p>In fact, Palantir's commercial business has been growing much faster than its government business in the recent past, which shows that commercial customers from all kinds of industries apparently see a lot of value in Palantir's technology -- otherwise, they wouldn't be buying at a rapid pace. With</p>\n<p>With the commercial business growth rate outpacing the government business growth rate, Palantir will, over the years, become a company that is less and less dependent on government contracts, and that will ultimately turn into a B2B-focused software/technology player. Even if Palantir were to remain a government-focused company forever, which seems unlikely based on the current growth rates of the individual business units, that would not necessarily be an issue. Working for the government means that there is very little counterparty risk and that existing relations can easily be used to get future contracts. Last but not least, with government budgets rising relatively steadily, good government connections allow for considerable growth opportunities -- especially in the defense tech/security tech space Palantir is active in, as there is a huge need for further investments in this space.</p>\n<p>The claim that a government focus leads to lacking scalability is also false, I believe. Per Palantir's most recent quarterly report (linked above), its operating expenses rose by $9 million between Q3 2020 and Q3 2021 -- whereas revenues rose by $103 million in the same time frame. This backs out changes in share-based compensation. If one were to include those SBC expenses, Palantir's expenses actually<i>declined</i>year-over-year while the company managed to grow its revenue by close to 40%. The claim that Palantir will not generate any scale advantages over the years thus seems to be unfounded, I believe. Instead, the data suggest that Palantir will be able to grow its margins considerably -- the company was able to grow its adjusted gross profit by a massive $90 million while growing its adjusted operating expenses by just $9 million -- making for excellent operating leverage.</p>\n<p><b>3. Exposure to rising rates</b></p>\n<p>Massive inflation will force the Fed to raise rates in 2022 and beyond, and that could be an issue for growth stocks. Companies that are not profitable today, or that have the vast majority of their profits in the distant future, are more exposed to a rising discount rate compared to companies that have low or no growth and that generate a large amount of all future profits in the near term. This could result in outperformance of value stocks versus growth stocks in the coming years, I believe. Palantir, which is not profitable yet, naturally belongs in the \"growth\" bucket that could see an above-average impact from rising interest rates. There is no real counter-argument here, I believe -- it is indeed true that the impact of rising rates on Palantir, all else equal, will be larger compared to a value stock like AbbVie (ABBV), for example.</p>\n<p>This being an incremental negative for Palantir doesn't mean that shares have to be avoided under any circumstances, however. Indeed, even despite some potential headwinds from rising rates, Palantir could still be an attractive investment if other arguments have a larger weight -- I believe this to be true, as I see PLTR's massive growth potential and huge moat outweighing some near-term headwinds from rising rates.</p>\n<p><b>Why Palantir Is Still Attractive</b></p>\n<p>Bears bring up a range of arguments against Palantir, and as shown above, those can have merit. I believe that they might be overblown in some cases, but taking a look at the bear's arguments doesn't hurt -- in fact, it seems like a good idea to look at both sides in order to make a more informed decision. Dilution is indeed an issue, although I do not believe that this will be too much of a headwind, since PLTR's business growth easily outpaces dilution and since dilution, overall, should slow down over the years. Government reliance will wane over the years due to an above-average commercial business growth rate, and in general, doing business with the government is not a bad thing anyway. The claim that PLTR lacks scalability seems to be false, from what I see in PLTR's data.</p>\n<p>Palantir is, despite these arguments, attractive, I believe: The company is growing rapidly, has decades-long growth potential in both its government business as well as on the commercial side, and Palantir seems to have a very wide moat. This combination could turn Palantir into one of the largest and most important companies eventually -- although investors shouldn't expect this to happen in the very near term. Instead, I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will grow at a considerable rate throughout the 2020s and beyond, as our world becomes ever more data-hungry -- both governments, as well as enterprises, will try to get the most value out of all of this data, and Palantir, with its tailored solutions, will be there to offer that value to its customers. With new tools such as the recently-showcased&nbsp;Foundry&nbsp;for crypto, Palantir is at the forefront of all kinds of emerging technologies. Thanks to the fact that Palantir has access to top talent -- the result of SBC and of an&nbsp;excellent working environment-- I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will be able to be highly competitive in all kinds of future markets in the Big Data/AI space that may not even exist yet.</p>\n<p><b>Takeaway</b></p>\n<p>In general, I am not much of a growth investor -- instead, I primarily focus on attractively priced stocks with strong cash flows, oftentimes those that pay dividends. Palantir, however, is somewhat of an outlier in my portfolio -- it's a growth stock, it is not really profitable yet, and most of its potential is years away. Due to the highly attractive combination of a massive market opportunity, excellent talent, and a wide moat, Palantir still seems like an attractive long-term investment to me. This isn't a stock that will make investors rich quickly, but I believe that there is a very good chance that Palantir will turn into a very dominant, important company over the next 10+ years. At 19x next year's revenue, PLTR is not cheap, but when we expect that the company will grow at a strong rate for many years, that also doesn't seem outlandish to me at all. It makes sense to listen to the bears' arguments, but I believe that the pros outweigh the cons here.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: 3 Reasons Against It And Why It's Still A Buy</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: 3 Reasons Against It And Why It's Still A Buy\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-12-21 11:26 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4475960-palantir-3-reasons-against-it-and-why-its-still-a-buy><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nPalantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.\nPLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.\nDespite ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4475960-palantir-3-reasons-against-it-and-why-its-still-a-buy\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4475960-palantir-3-reasons-against-it-and-why-its-still-a-buy","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1117226796","content_text":"Summary\n\nPalantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.\nPLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.\nDespite some interest rate headwinds, PLTR seems like a good investment to me, thanks to a strong moat and great growth outlook.\n\nspxChrome/E+ via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nPalantir Technologies (PLTR) is an embattled growth stock, and in recent weeks, bears have been winning as shares continued to decline. There are, indeed some important bear arguments, such as dilution, reliance on government contracts, and rising interest rates. I do, however, still believe that Palantir Technologies is an attractive long-term investment, due to the act that its technology could lead to massive growth for many years to come.\n3 Issues Brought Up By Bears\nPalantir is a growth stock that brings out highly convinced bulls as well as highly convinced bears. Generally, I am in the bullish camp here, but taking a look at the bear arguments can be a good idea as well. Three of the most common arguments against Palantir are the following ones:\n1. Shareholder Dilution\nGrowth on a company-wide basis is important, but growth on a per-share basis is even more important. There are many examples that show that changes in a company's share count can create or destroy a lot of shareholder value. Apple (AAPL), for example, has seen its net income grow by roughly 190% over the last decade:\nData by YCharts\nThanks to a declining share count, its earnings per share rose by a much more attractive 350%, however -- buybacks created a lot of shareholder value. There are also examples where a rising share count destroyed a lot of shareholder value, e.g. at Citigroup (C):\nData by YCharts\nMassive share issuance during the Great Recession has resulted in a 75% earnings per share decline since 2007, even though net profits were up over the same time frame. Looking at the changes in a company's share count thus makes sense, as those changes can have a large impact in the long run. At Palantir, we see that the share count has been rising considerably since the company went public. During the most recent quarter, Palantir's share count looked like this:\nSource: Palantir Press Release\nCompared to the second quarter, Palantir's average share count was 1.895 billion, which makes for a 3.5% quarterly increase, which pencils out to an annual growth rate in the mid-teens. That is, of course, not negligible at all, and bears to have an argument when they state that shareholders get diluted at a meaningful pace. On the other hand, Palantir's business growth rate is way higher than 3% per quarter, as the company has guided for ~40% revenue growth this year, and since Palantir should also deliver outsized business growth in the coming years. Even if Palantir's share count were to climb by 10%-15% a year going forward, revenue per share would still climb by 25%+ a year thanks to the fact that PLTR is growing rapidly. I also believe that dilution will, over the years, decline. Not only has this been the case at many other growth companies, e.g. Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG), or Meta (FB), but it is also logical from an option rewards perspective. Option rewards are especially generous when a company is not yet publicly traded and when its future is still more uncertain, but as a company matures, employees get more comfortable as risks for the company decline, and they do not demand large option packages any longer. Last but not least, Palantir also generates strong free cash flows that should allow the company to do share buybacks in the future, which should help improve the dilution rate as well.\n2. Reliance on government contracts\nIn a recent bearish article, fellow Seeking Alpha contributor On The Pulse argued that Palantir was overvalued and that its reliance on government contracts was an issue. Palantir Technologies is, indeed, reliant on government contracts to a large degree today, but I do not believe that this is a major issue. First, Palantir has diversified away from government contracts in the recent past, thanks to massive growth in its commercial business:\nSource: Palantir Technologies presentation\nIn fact, Palantir's commercial business has been growing much faster than its government business in the recent past, which shows that commercial customers from all kinds of industries apparently see a lot of value in Palantir's technology -- otherwise, they wouldn't be buying at a rapid pace. With\nWith the commercial business growth rate outpacing the government business growth rate, Palantir will, over the years, become a company that is less and less dependent on government contracts, and that will ultimately turn into a B2B-focused software/technology player. Even if Palantir were to remain a government-focused company forever, which seems unlikely based on the current growth rates of the individual business units, that would not necessarily be an issue. Working for the government means that there is very little counterparty risk and that existing relations can easily be used to get future contracts. Last but not least, with government budgets rising relatively steadily, good government connections allow for considerable growth opportunities -- especially in the defense tech/security tech space Palantir is active in, as there is a huge need for further investments in this space.\nThe claim that a government focus leads to lacking scalability is also false, I believe. Per Palantir's most recent quarterly report (linked above), its operating expenses rose by $9 million between Q3 2020 and Q3 2021 -- whereas revenues rose by $103 million in the same time frame. This backs out changes in share-based compensation. If one were to include those SBC expenses, Palantir's expenses actuallydeclinedyear-over-year while the company managed to grow its revenue by close to 40%. The claim that Palantir will not generate any scale advantages over the years thus seems to be unfounded, I believe. Instead, the data suggest that Palantir will be able to grow its margins considerably -- the company was able to grow its adjusted gross profit by a massive $90 million while growing its adjusted operating expenses by just $9 million -- making for excellent operating leverage.\n3. Exposure to rising rates\nMassive inflation will force the Fed to raise rates in 2022 and beyond, and that could be an issue for growth stocks. Companies that are not profitable today, or that have the vast majority of their profits in the distant future, are more exposed to a rising discount rate compared to companies that have low or no growth and that generate a large amount of all future profits in the near term. This could result in outperformance of value stocks versus growth stocks in the coming years, I believe. Palantir, which is not profitable yet, naturally belongs in the \"growth\" bucket that could see an above-average impact from rising interest rates. There is no real counter-argument here, I believe -- it is indeed true that the impact of rising rates on Palantir, all else equal, will be larger compared to a value stock like AbbVie (ABBV), for example.\nThis being an incremental negative for Palantir doesn't mean that shares have to be avoided under any circumstances, however. Indeed, even despite some potential headwinds from rising rates, Palantir could still be an attractive investment if other arguments have a larger weight -- I believe this to be true, as I see PLTR's massive growth potential and huge moat outweighing some near-term headwinds from rising rates.\nWhy Palantir Is Still Attractive\nBears bring up a range of arguments against Palantir, and as shown above, those can have merit. I believe that they might be overblown in some cases, but taking a look at the bear's arguments doesn't hurt -- in fact, it seems like a good idea to look at both sides in order to make a more informed decision. Dilution is indeed an issue, although I do not believe that this will be too much of a headwind, since PLTR's business growth easily outpaces dilution and since dilution, overall, should slow down over the years. Government reliance will wane over the years due to an above-average commercial business growth rate, and in general, doing business with the government is not a bad thing anyway. The claim that PLTR lacks scalability seems to be false, from what I see in PLTR's data.\nPalantir is, despite these arguments, attractive, I believe: The company is growing rapidly, has decades-long growth potential in both its government business as well as on the commercial side, and Palantir seems to have a very wide moat. This combination could turn Palantir into one of the largest and most important companies eventually -- although investors shouldn't expect this to happen in the very near term. Instead, I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will grow at a considerable rate throughout the 2020s and beyond, as our world becomes ever more data-hungry -- both governments, as well as enterprises, will try to get the most value out of all of this data, and Palantir, with its tailored solutions, will be there to offer that value to its customers. With new tools such as the recently-showcased Foundry for crypto, Palantir is at the forefront of all kinds of emerging technologies. Thanks to the fact that Palantir has access to top talent -- the result of SBC and of an excellent working environment-- I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will be able to be highly competitive in all kinds of future markets in the Big Data/AI space that may not even exist yet.\nTakeaway\nIn general, I am not much of a growth investor -- instead, I primarily focus on attractively priced stocks with strong cash flows, oftentimes those that pay dividends. Palantir, however, is somewhat of an outlier in my portfolio -- it's a growth stock, it is not really profitable yet, and most of its potential is years away. Due to the highly attractive combination of a massive market opportunity, excellent talent, and a wide moat, Palantir still seems like an attractive long-term investment to me. This isn't a stock that will make investors rich quickly, but I believe that there is a very good chance that Palantir will turn into a very dominant, important company over the next 10+ years. At 19x next year's revenue, PLTR is not cheap, but when we expect that the company will grow at a strong rate for many years, that also doesn't seem outlandish to me at all. It makes sense to listen to the bears' arguments, but I believe that the pros outweigh the cons here.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":756,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":608636122,"gmtCreate":1638706503852,"gmtModify":1638706503852,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3585191808723701","authorIdStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Difficult to value Grab as a profitable business. I am wary about how long before they can be profitable if at all.","listText":"Difficult to value Grab as a profitable business. I am wary about how long before they can be profitable if at all.","text":"Difficult to value Grab as a profitable business. 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