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2021-12-18

不错，加油

2021-11-08

很好

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2021-11-08

很好

@小虎活动:[Halloween Game] Trade or Treat!

2021-11-07

不错

@小虎活动:[Halloween Game] Trade or Treat!

2021-11-07

不错

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2021-11-06

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2021-11-06

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2021-11-06

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2021-11-04

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2021-11-02

不错

@小虎活动:[Halloween Game] Trade or Treat!

2021-08-06

不错

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2021-08-03

够力

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2021-07-31

厉害!

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2021-07-31

不错

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2021-07-31

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2021-06-17

好

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2021-06-17

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2021-05-03

好

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2021-04-27

Gd.

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2021-04-25

加油

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All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'.&nbsp; 2.&nbsp;How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","listText":"Hello, dear Tigers!&nbsp; Happy&nbsp;Halloween!&nbsp;🎃🎃🎃&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=\"https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/activity/market/2021/halloween/?lang=en_US#/\" target=\"_blank\">Tap&nbsp;here&nbsp;to&nbsp;play the Halloween game,&nbsp;and&nbsp;you&nbsp;stand&nbsp;a&nbsp;chance&nbsp;to win various rewards!&nbsp;</a> Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1.&nbsp;How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. 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All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'.&nbsp; 2.&nbsp;How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","listText":"Hello, dear Tigers!&nbsp; Happy&nbsp;Halloween!&nbsp;🎃🎃🎃&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=\"https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/activity/market/2021/halloween/?lang=en_US#/\" target=\"_blank\">Tap&nbsp;here&nbsp;to&nbsp;play the Halloween game,&nbsp;and&nbsp;you&nbsp;stand&nbsp;a&nbsp;chance&nbsp;to win various rewards!&nbsp;</a> Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1.&nbsp;How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. 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height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>判决书中，腾讯对用户协议的说明。是否公平合理，是否真的是维护玩家的合法利益，大家心里都有杆秤</p>\n<p>最后法院判腾讯胜诉，要求淘手游下架相关产品，不允许再上架，赔偿包括诉讼费在内的70万元。</p>\n<p>这一场胜负，实际上不单单是两家公司的输赢。另外几家被起诉的平台，已感不安。但其实最应该感到不安的，可能是广大的游戏玩家。</p>\n<p>这些案件的背后，争议的核心在于，<b>普通用户花时间花钱玩出的游戏角色，获得的道具、装备、金币等等，以及承载这些的账号，归属到底是谁，谁有处置权？</b></p>\n<p>腾讯在这次的诉讼中，刻意规避了这个问题，只提到<b>用户协议中，有规定，不可以在第三方平台上销售和获得，</b>这是游戏运营商和玩家互相约定的合同，有法律效益。</p>\n<p>有两位中立的法律专家在接受采访时，都提到了上述的核心问题。</p>\n<p>专门研究电子游戏与电子竞技的王如华律师，研究了案件相关的信息后，表示作为独立观察者，支持交易平台一方。他直接指出，账号交易的本质，是交易游戏网络账号对应的游戏角色、游戏道具、游戏虚拟货币等数据或网络虚拟财产。</p>\n<p>作为一名游戏法律从业者，当然<b>“希望游戏玩家可以自由处分，转让自己游戏账号相关的各种虚拟财产权益，不希望这些权益被包括任何一家游戏公司通过格式合同强行与自身永久捆绑”。</b></p>\n<p>中国人民大学民商事法律科学研究中心副主任、中国知识产权法学研究会副秘书长，常务理事姚欢庆教授认为“<b>就游戏账号及游戏衍生物而言，对于游戏的玩家来说，既具有使用价值，也具有主观价值，是游戏用户通过时间投入或者金钱购买的</b>。只要这些字符串所对应的虚拟物有主观价值，在不违背国家强制性规范的前提下，<b>就都具有财产的属性</b>。作为账号及相关衍生品的拥有者，<b>玩家理应拥有类似于现实世界中动产所有权一样的占有、使用、收益或者处分这些虚拟财产的权利。</b></p>\n<p>而对于“用户协议”，两位专家和腾讯方面所持意见也不同。腾讯认为用户协议是它与玩家之间公平的合同，对双方均有约束力，玩家必须遵守这个协议。</p>\n<p>姚教授认为，这种用户协议，其中设定的各种条款属于“格式条款”，它是一种法学上的概念，指由一方当事人（这里是腾讯）为重复使用而预先拟定的条款，并于缔约时不容相对人（这里也就是玩家）协商的条款。<b>因为会有格式条款制定者利用优势地位滥用权利的可能，所以合同法、民法典都对滥用格式条款的情形进行了规制。</b></p>\n<p>在具体探讨这个问题上，姚教授没有下结论，但是提供了思考的方向：游戏公司<b>本身已经通过衍生物的销售或者流量变现获得了利益。</b>在获得这部分利益以后，网络服务提供者<b>是否有权通过限制这些虚拟物的流转获得新的稀缺性利益，需要单独考虑。</b>限制虚拟物的流转是否显示公平，是否违反诚实信用原则，还是有进一步的探讨余地。</p>\n<p>王律师指出，用户协议就是格式条款，但他的倾向性就比较明确，他认为，“尽管游戏用户和腾讯公司的协议中宣称虚拟财产归其所有，并禁止游戏用户与第三人进行虚拟财产交易。但这样的条款是腾讯单方面拟定、提出的，不会与游戏玩家协商，也不存在游戏玩家与其协商的空间。这种典型的格式条款违反了公平原则，单方面限制了用户主要权利。<b>”</b>不过王律师也指出，这种认定，在个案中需要法院具体适用。</p>\n<p>对于腾讯的用户协议中，规定的内容，王律师另外也提出了一些质疑：当下，法律对于数据及网络虚拟财产并没有相应明确的规定。所以腾讯公司和游戏玩家的“协议”，称游戏中的数据及网络虚拟财产的所有权是自己的，在现有法律框架下是不严谨的一种表述。网络游戏账号对应的游戏角色、游戏道具、游戏虚拟货币等数据或网络虚拟财产，更多的是一个权益束，里面有游戏公司的法益，有游戏玩家的法益，甚至有社会国家的法益，整个权益束不会为一家所独占。</p>\n<p>虚拟财产的处置，以及格式条款的讨论之外，第三方平台们还在担心饭碗和生态链的问题。如果腾讯最终都胜诉，会不会开启某种模式，导致其他企业有样学样，第三方平台业务倒掉，依附于其上的工作室及其从业者失业……针对这种担心，王律师认为，不太可能，因为司法政策会变化，虽然这种变化可能会相对缓慢。另外，部分法院的看法也不一定影响到全国法院的看法，更不一定是国家立法机关的未来立法的意见。</p>\n<p>三、归因：是想搞垄断，还是《地下城与勇士》不行了？</p>\n<p>对于第一案的败诉，第三方平台颇有不忿。最大的不满，来自于“你告我，不让我卖，但是京东、转转、拼多多上都有该游戏的相关交易，微信、QQ上还有入口。如果腾讯说的那些理由成立，第三方平台对游戏、玩家都这么大的影响，那让这些平台卖还给导量，怎么解释？腾讯自己信吗？这是什么？这就是搞垄断。”</p>\n<p>淘手游的代理律师对此比较愤慨，“这个问题，大家很清楚，就是通过法律手段打掉小平台小公司，扶持腾讯系的公司来做这个事，而到那一天，游戏是我开发的，交易平台是我旗下的。交易费收多少？怎么交易？给不给你交易？不都是腾讯说了算。”</p>\n<p>“强化反垄断和防止资本无序扩张”，无疑是未来一段时间国家的重要政策。和案件双方都无关系的王律师指出，如果腾讯有自己的投资的平台，可以从事类似的业务而不允许其他商家这么做，恰好说明腾讯的行为在此案中，可能最接近滥用市场支配地位这种垄断形式——如无正当理由，限定交易相对人只能与其进行交易或者只能与其指定的经营者进行交易。他也强调，反垄断在民事案件中不太会直接涉及，不过希望反垄断的精神会影响民事法官在裁判案件中对法律的理解及解释。</p>\n<p>在云游戏领域，有个别中小云游戏平台，因为上架了腾讯的游戏，被告侵权和不正当竞争。</p>\n<p>据当事方透露，如果打这个官司，一方面对于小公司来说，诉讼成本过高，而且未必赢，另一方面，面临高额的赔偿，承担不起。这个时候，腾讯投资部门就提出和解，接受腾讯投资，并且要求服务器等相关需求必须使用腾讯云的服务。这个手法，据说，还用在了动漫、直播、短视频等领域。</p>\n<p>这其中，有的的确是侵权事实比较明确，有的就不好说，权责比较模糊，法律没有明确规定，特别是这次游戏第三方交易平台。</p>\n<p>另一种猜想，是来自于《地下城与勇士（DNF）》游戏本身。因为腾讯的其他产品，貌似还没有提出诉讼。</p>\n<p>而腾讯的2019年报显示：“增值服务中，网络游戏全年收入约1147亿元，同比增长10%。主要受益《王者荣耀》、《和平精英》和《PUBGMobile》等手游的贡献增加，部分被《DNF》等端游收入下滑所抵消。”</p>\n<p>这份年报，在2020年公布，正是腾讯提出这次车轮战式诉讼的年份。</p>\n<p>同期，DNF的玩家也对腾讯的运营进行了一番责难。</p>\n<p>据玩家解释，DNF在胜极之时，是默许一些刷图外挂、代练工作室的存在的，现在没“那么火”了，就“重拳出击”，对外挂和代练进行了比较彻底的查封，玩家圈子吵了好一阵。</p>\n<p>四、到底哪一个是腾讯的面目？</p>\n<p>其实很难想象，盛极一时，为腾讯游戏奠定胜局的《地下城与勇士》，要用这种姿态和面目，去面对衰退。</p>\n<p>这款2008年上线，代理自韩国的客户端网游，在当时具有划时代的意义，是全新的品类，与当时已有的游戏有比较大的不同。它与另一款韩国游戏《穿越火线》一起，正式开启了腾讯游戏的成功，将其捧上行业第一。</p>\n<p>但腾讯在当时的一些行为，自研方面的仿制，等等，最终通过2010年7月的3Q大战，引爆了舆论。</p>\n<p>腾讯在当年，痛定思痛，开启了开放战略。我当时坐在台下，非常近距离地看着腾讯的创始人，马化腾说，腾讯当时的年利润200亿，他相信反思过去决定开放之后，会为腾讯带来另一个200亿。</p>\n<p>这位情感不爱外露的天蝎男，说得诚恳，真实，动情。</p>\n<p>腾讯一面在说，科技向善。可是睁开眼看看，腾讯的面目到底是怎样，腾讯自己看清了吗？</p>\n<p>我相对来说更喜欢马化腾那时的面目。</p>\n<p>还有一次，腾讯发第一款火影正版授权的游戏，我采访制作人问，你们会通过法律手段打掉其他蹭IP的或者盗版游戏吗？</p>\n<p>看上去就有点宅的制作人想了想说，“我觉得自己的产品做得够好，玩家都来玩，更重要。如果正版都做不过盗版，还有什么好说的？”后来大家都知道，腾讯的这款火影忍者游戏相当成功。</p>\n<p>这才是腾讯应该有的面目吧。</p>","source":"lsy1580730584351","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE 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}\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\n腾讯的两副面孔\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-07-31 08:08 北京时间&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/8hlW3HEfwfJsEuuh2eLylQ><strong> 有饭研究</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>腾讯看上去有两副面孔。一面，是“科技向善”的企业使命；另一面，是网友“南山必胜客”、“资本大鳄”的调侃和责难。两副面孔是如此矛盾，腾讯人可能有时候自己也会感到模糊，哪一面才是真相？\n而对于多家三方游戏交易平台来说，“科技向善”还没看到，被腾讯告，才是实实在在的真实。\n一、起因：200亿年交易额，20年业态，一朝被告\n第三方游戏交易平台，即脱离开网络游戏本身的，由非游戏官方运营的，提供给玩家在其上...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/8hlW3HEfwfJsEuuh2eLylQ\">Web 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Q大战，引爆了舆论。\n腾讯在当年，痛定思痛，开启了开放战略。我当时坐在台下，非常近距离地看着腾讯的创始人，马化腾说，腾讯当时的年利润200亿，他相信反思过去决定开放之后，会为腾讯带来另一个200亿。\n这位情感不爱外露的天蝎男，说得诚恳，真实，动情。\n腾讯一面在说，科技向善。可是睁开眼看看，腾讯的面目到底是怎样，腾讯自己看清了吗？\n我相对来说更喜欢马化腾那时的面目。\n还有一次，腾讯发第一款火影正版授权的游戏，我采访制作人问，你们会通过法律手段打掉其他蹭IP的或者盗版游戏吗？\n看上去就有点宅的制作人想了想说，“我觉得自己的产品做得够好，玩家都来玩，更重要。如果正版都做不过盗版，还有什么好说的？”后来大家都知道，腾讯的这款火影忍者游戏相当成功。\n这才是腾讯应该有的面目吧。","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":368,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":806450127,"gmtCreate":1627690339969,"gmtModify":1633757154547,"author":{"id":"3582021985778477","authorId":"3582021985778477","name":"Jackychua","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/da85c2e9479860997fd43352bd76a7d5","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3582021985778477","authorIdStr":"3582021985778477"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"不错","listText":"不错","text":"不错","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/806450127","repostId":"1110754441","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1110754441","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"派财经是第一家聚焦数字经济融媒体平台，既关注人工智能、大数据、云计算、移动互联网、5G等数字科技，也关注产业数字化、数字金融、新消费、宅经济这些基于数字科技的新经济。","home_visible":1,"media_name":"派财经官微","id":"1014980900","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bb9c7604ff64454d92461efd7b8b8949"},"pubTimestamp":1627690027,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1110754441?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-07-31 08:07","market":"hk","language":"zh","title":"押注集度汽车，百度造车梦能飞多远？","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1110754441","media":"派财经官微","summary":"起了个大早赶了个晚集\n\n百度自动驾驶不再想成为汽车的“灵魂”了？\n在上汽集团董事长陈虹提出要把“灵魂”掌握在自己手中后不久，百度自动驾驶产品运营部总监徐宝强近期在接受媒体采访时表示：“百度现在的发展方","content":"<blockquote>\n 起了个大早赶了个晚集\n</blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BIDU\">百度</a>自动驾驶不再想成为汽车的“灵魂”了？</p>\n<p>在<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/600104\">上汽集团</a>董事长陈虹提出要把“灵魂”掌握在自己手中后不久，<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BIDU\">百度</a>自动驾驶产品运营部总监徐宝强近期在接受媒体采访时表示：“百度现在的发展方向还并不是把自动驾驶技术输出给车企，而是希望推动共享领域的无人出行事业。”</p>\n<p>在上述言论中，百度透露了两点关键信息：百度不再重点输出自动驾驶技术、专注共享领域无人驾驶。显然，这与最初百度推出<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/APOL\">阿波罗</a>计划时的目标已经发生了180度的大转弯。</p>\n<p>那么，不再强调输出无人驾驶技术的百度，还能否讲好AI的故事？</p>\n<p><b>汽车战略转向</b></p>\n<p>在无人驾驶这个赛道，百度是起步最早的一批。</p>\n<p>早在2013年，百度便在内部启动了无人车项目，打磨四年之后于2017年4月正式推出Apollo系统，致力于打造“自动驾驶领域的安卓系统”，目标是向汽车行业及自动驾驶领域的合作伙伴提供一个开放、完整、安全的软件平台，帮助他们结合车辆和硬件系统，快速搭建一套属于自己的完整的自动驾驶系统。</p>\n<p>至今，百度的无人车项目已启动近八年，累计投资数百亿，参与百度“<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/APOL\">阿波罗</a>计划”的有戴勒姆奔驰、丰田、本田、大众、宝马、拜腾等十余家车厂，还有其他科研机构、互联网公司、运营商等。阿波罗计划成为一个行业性的巨大联盟，号召力强大。</p>\n<p>百度做自动驾驶有着其他厂商无可比拟的优势，比如AI技术储备和百度地图。在技术上，百度拥有云存储、高精地图等全方位技术，而AI又是百度的固有优势。同时，百度地图拥有强大的用户基础，从自动驾驶的采集能力以及资质上来看，百度在业界也处于领先地位。</p>\n<p>然而，随着造车新势力的崛起，以及华为、小米、360等科技企业的入局，拥有先发优势的阿波罗计划的存在感越来越弱。事实上，截至目前，还没有车企量产产品大规模搭载百度的自动驾驶系统。</p>\n<p>原因何在？业内普遍认为，阿波罗计划的L4级目标定位过高，难以实现商业化是其前进遇阻的最主要原因。</p>\n<p>“汽车的软件代码数量比<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">智能</a>手机高出10倍左右，自动驾驶技术也比电动技术复杂得多，商业化落地难度更是远超电动汽车。”一位汽车行业分析师表示，自动驾驶行业是一个既烧钱又费时的领域，要想实现商业化落地，还需要更多的技术沉淀以及更为适合的商业模式。</p>\n<p>不少试乘百度无人车的用户表示，百度无人车存在着转向绕行半径大、平均车速慢、行驶过程中超车困难以及打车时必须到指定地点上车等方面的问题，虽然这些问题都并非致命硬伤，但对于乘客而言，驾乘感受并不友好，真正取代传统汽车可能还需要更多时间。</p>\n<p>从目前市场上<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>、小鹏、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">蔚来</a>等造车新势力的销量来看，外界更为认同的自动驾驶实现方式首先还是L2、L3级别的辅助自动驾驶，其次才可能逐步过渡至L4级别。</p>\n<p>当然，消费者的使用感受只是一方面，来自法律法规层面的阻力则更为直接。由于目前法律法规对于完全自动驾驶汽车上路许可的限制，L4级自动驾驶更多的只能行驶于封闭、局限的特定场景之下，用户对于选择一款L4级别自动驾驶汽车的兴趣，也因此被减弱了。当年李彦宏坐上「自动驾驶汽车」在北京四环现场直播，结果就遭到了交管部门约谈。</p>\n<p>为此，百度自动驾驶不得不优先满足不同地方政府的法规要求，这也让百度自动驾驶变成了以地方政府要求为导向的自动驾驶团队。无论是合作车型选择、测试地点，以及产品研发，百度的阿波罗都很难按照最利于技术发展的节奏来考量，而是以是否能获得地方政策扶持作为第一标准。</p>\n<p>因此，即使L4级自动驾驶前景十分明朗，但囿于当下的驾乘感受及监管政策现实，百度最初所设想的赋能整车企业的梦想只能当作愿景缓慢推进，直至现在不得不从顶层设计层面做出战略改变——不向车企输出自动驾驶技术。</p>\n<p><b>裁判与选手的抉择</b></p>\n<p>华为HI方案为什么不被上汽所采纳？从整车企业的角度而言，必然希望能由自己来掌握个人消费市场的主导权，不想沦为<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">智能</a>汽车解决方案的汽车“代工厂”，从这一角度而言，车企的顾虑完全可以理解。</p>\n<p>但这又为百度的阿波罗计划造成了第二个困扰，如上文所言，在一开始的构想中，阿波罗借鉴了<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOG\">谷歌</a>的Android系统之于整个智能手机产业的思路，企图通过开源的方式发展成为整个智能汽车产业的中枢，这就直接导致了整车企业不愿意采用其解决方案。</p>\n<p>因此，百度在经过一番权衡之后，于2020年底开始酝酿自己下场造车，这当然有觊觎智能汽车庞大市场潜力的心态，但同时也是出于不得已而为之的考量。最终，今年3月，百度与吉利联合推出了集度汽车，并计划5年内投入500亿元造车。</p>\n<p>不过，这又让百度陷入了另一个困扰——既当裁判又当运动员，这与当下华为鸿蒙系统的困境相似，如果车企采用了百度的自动驾驶方案，那么自己的命脉会不会掌握在竞争对手手里？百度在提供自动驾驶技术输出时，会不会有所偏向？</p>\n<p>除此之外，百度的自动驾驶方案还面临着其他选手的激烈竞争，最为突出的当属华为。极狐汽车作为华为与百度的共同合作伙伴，已经发布了基于华为HI方案的阿尔法智能汽车，依靠30年的ICT能力，华为为其提供了包括1个全新的智能汽车数字化架构和5大智能系统。在整个解决方案里，华为已经具备了“全栈”智能能力，包括芯片、操作系统、语言、地图、云计算、大数据、车路协同、自动驾驶、软件迭代升级和云端数据训练等。</p>\n<p>更重要的一点是，华为自2018年就已宣布不造车是公司铁律，并且多次重申这一战略不会改变，这与百度所选择的亲自下场造车完全不同，这也会成为车企在二者之间进行选择时考量的因素。</p>\n<p>基于上述种种考虑，徐宝强在此次媒体采访中透露，百度将选择另外一条路径，即避开车企希望掌控主导权、竞争激烈的个人消费市场，从共享汽车业务层面切入。在这方面，今年6月份极狐汽车与百度 Apollo 发布了无人共享车 Apollo Moon，价格为48万元，成本仅为其它 L4 级自动驾驶车辆的三分之一，百度认为这有望真正将 Robotaxi 带进网约车运营成本区间。</p>\n<p>淡化押注了8年的自动驾驶系统平台，转而选择应用前景不明朗、市场空间小、落地更困难的智能共享汽车，究竟是选择，还是不得已？相信只有百度自己更清楚了。</p>\n<p><b>集度汽车能否扛起大旗？</b></p>\n<p>如果百度转向，发展重点不再是向车企输出自动驾驶技术，那么，集度汽车很可能是百度造车梦的最终载体。从股权机构来看，百度持股份额达到了55%，除了夏一平，另有梁志翔、何俊杰、李震宇三位董事来自百度，只有安聪慧一位董事来自吉利，由此可见百度对于集度汽车有着更高的掌控力与期望。</p>\n<p>另外，从双方的硬性条件来说，确实是一对天成佳偶，作为互联网科技巨头，百度技术实力自然不必多说，尤其是深耕AI与自动驾驶多年。吉利方面，其2020年总销量高达132万辆，汽车生产能力非常强悍。此外，吉利自研的 SEA浩瀚汽车架构基于软件定义汽车的思路所打造，无论是硬件层、系统层还是生态层，均实现了行业内前所未有的兼容性，可以大幅缩短汽车的研发周期。因此，集度汽车才敢于喊出三年内实现量产的口号。</p>\n<p>同时，百度承诺未来五年内将投入500亿元进行研发，远超<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">蔚来</a>、小鹏、理想10亿元级别的研发投入，从这一角度而言，扎实的自动驾驶技术与长期的巨额投入，或许真的能够为集度汽车带来更优秀的市场表现。</p>\n<p>然而，含着金钥匙出生的集度汽车也并非完全没有隐忧。首先就是造车团队的搭建，2021年4月，夏一平预计到2022年年底，集度汽车核心团队规模将扩大到2500-3000人。</p>\n<p>从之前的3-4人团队，到2022年底的近3000人，团队组建几乎是从零开始。至今，集度的团队中有来自传统车企和已经在新势力融合过的人，也有来自互联网、消费电子领域的同事。这一方面带来了集度汽车在各方面的整合优势，但另一方面这样的优势也必须在充分地磨合基础上才能实现。毕竟，创业团队或多或少、或长或短都会经历一个磨合时期。</p>\n<p>但一个不可否认的事实是，百度体系内部关系复杂，即使曾经<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSFT\">微软</a>光环加身的陆奇，在调整自动驾驶业务时也造成了王劲、吴恩达等核心人员的流失，没能理顺内部关系。夏一平能在多大程度上调动内部资源，做好集度汽车尚未可知。</p>\n<p>其次，虽然夏一平认同智能化才是未来智能汽车的核心竞争力，“智能化不只是形态上，也是底层技术，从下至上的重构。”并把这种从下至上的重构定义为“端到端的生态”。这与目前行业的普遍共识相一致——智能汽车未来一定是与用户生活深度融合，也就是与用户其他设备构成一套「无感知」级的 IoT 生态系统，但是眼下无论是百度还是吉利，都没有为其提供生态系统赋能的能力。</p>\n<p>生态构建却并不是百度的强项，百度在移动端不仅软件覆盖广度和深度远远落后于阿里、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00700\">腾讯</a>，在硬件方面也缺少手机之类能够与用户产生强联系的设备，百度也至今未能建立起属于自己的一套 IoT 物联网生态系统，这都是决定着未来集度汽车是否能够获得消费者认可的关键因素。</p>\n<p>最后，百度与吉利的合作方式也是业界的另一担忧点。通常来说，造车周期很长，而双方选择的合资造车方式在业内很少有成功的案例，如果一旦出现合作理念分歧，将对集度汽车的影响巨大。同时，资深汽车分析师梅松林博士认为，“打造汽车品牌资金投入很大，双方是不是都有足够的耐心和实力、双方的主业是否会影响投资，都是未知数。而如果合作中遇到挑战，双方之间是否依然互相信任，同样会影响到合作。</p>\n<p>因此，可以说豪言3年量产的集度汽车虽是含着金钥匙出生，关乎百度的未来，但其所面临的局面却并不乐观，尤其是在自身团队尚未理顺、生态构建缺位，以及与吉利的合资造车模式，任意一项出现纰漏都将导致晚入局的百度难以后来居上。因为全力押注集度汽车，百度的自动驾驶安卓梦也几乎无疾而终。</p>\n<p>百度，是否一不小心，成为<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/002594\">比亚迪</a>CEO王传福口中“浪费三年”造车之人？</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" 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style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/bb9c7604ff64454d92461efd7b8b8949);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">派财经官微 </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2021-07-31 08:07</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<blockquote>\n 起了个大早赶了个晚集\n</blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BIDU\">百度</a>自动驾驶不再想成为汽车的“灵魂”了？</p>\n<p>在<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/600104\">上汽集团</a>董事长陈虹提出要把“灵魂”掌握在自己手中后不久，<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BIDU\">百度</a>自动驾驶产品运营部总监徐宝强近期在接受媒体采访时表示：“百度现在的发展方向还并不是把自动驾驶技术输出给车企，而是希望推动共享领域的无人出行事业。”</p>\n<p>在上述言论中，百度透露了两点关键信息：百度不再重点输出自动驾驶技术、专注共享领域无人驾驶。显然，这与最初百度推出<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/APOL\">阿波罗</a>计划时的目标已经发生了180度的大转弯。</p>\n<p>那么，不再强调输出无人驾驶技术的百度，还能否讲好AI的故事？</p>\n<p><b>汽车战略转向</b></p>\n<p>在无人驾驶这个赛道，百度是起步最早的一批。</p>\n<p>早在2013年，百度便在内部启动了无人车项目，打磨四年之后于2017年4月正式推出Apollo系统，致力于打造“自动驾驶领域的安卓系统”，目标是向汽车行业及自动驾驶领域的合作伙伴提供一个开放、完整、安全的软件平台，帮助他们结合车辆和硬件系统，快速搭建一套属于自己的完整的自动驾驶系统。</p>\n<p>至今，百度的无人车项目已启动近八年，累计投资数百亿，参与百度“<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/APOL\">阿波罗</a>计划”的有戴勒姆奔驰、丰田、本田、大众、宝马、拜腾等十余家车厂，还有其他科研机构、互联网公司、运营商等。阿波罗计划成为一个行业性的巨大联盟，号召力强大。</p>\n<p>百度做自动驾驶有着其他厂商无可比拟的优势，比如AI技术储备和百度地图。在技术上，百度拥有云存储、高精地图等全方位技术，而AI又是百度的固有优势。同时，百度地图拥有强大的用户基础，从自动驾驶的采集能力以及资质上来看，百度在业界也处于领先地位。</p>\n<p>然而，随着造车新势力的崛起，以及华为、小米、360等科技企业的入局，拥有先发优势的阿波罗计划的存在感越来越弱。事实上，截至目前，还没有车企量产产品大规模搭载百度的自动驾驶系统。</p>\n<p>原因何在？业内普遍认为，阿波罗计划的L4级目标定位过高，难以实现商业化是其前进遇阻的最主要原因。</p>\n<p>“汽车的软件代码数量比<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">智能</a>手机高出10倍左右，自动驾驶技术也比电动技术复杂得多，商业化落地难度更是远超电动汽车。”一位汽车行业分析师表示，自动驾驶行业是一个既烧钱又费时的领域，要想实现商业化落地，还需要更多的技术沉淀以及更为适合的商业模式。</p>\n<p>不少试乘百度无人车的用户表示，百度无人车存在着转向绕行半径大、平均车速慢、行驶过程中超车困难以及打车时必须到指定地点上车等方面的问题，虽然这些问题都并非致命硬伤，但对于乘客而言，驾乘感受并不友好，真正取代传统汽车可能还需要更多时间。</p>\n<p>从目前市场上<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>、小鹏、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">蔚来</a>等造车新势力的销量来看，外界更为认同的自动驾驶实现方式首先还是L2、L3级别的辅助自动驾驶，其次才可能逐步过渡至L4级别。</p>\n<p>当然，消费者的使用感受只是一方面，来自法律法规层面的阻力则更为直接。由于目前法律法规对于完全自动驾驶汽车上路许可的限制，L4级自动驾驶更多的只能行驶于封闭、局限的特定场景之下，用户对于选择一款L4级别自动驾驶汽车的兴趣，也因此被减弱了。当年李彦宏坐上「自动驾驶汽车」在北京四环现场直播，结果就遭到了交管部门约谈。</p>\n<p>为此，百度自动驾驶不得不优先满足不同地方政府的法规要求，这也让百度自动驾驶变成了以地方政府要求为导向的自动驾驶团队。无论是合作车型选择、测试地点，以及产品研发，百度的阿波罗都很难按照最利于技术发展的节奏来考量，而是以是否能获得地方政策扶持作为第一标准。</p>\n<p>因此，即使L4级自动驾驶前景十分明朗，但囿于当下的驾乘感受及监管政策现实，百度最初所设想的赋能整车企业的梦想只能当作愿景缓慢推进，直至现在不得不从顶层设计层面做出战略改变——不向车企输出自动驾驶技术。</p>\n<p><b>裁判与选手的抉择</b></p>\n<p>华为HI方案为什么不被上汽所采纳？从整车企业的角度而言，必然希望能由自己来掌握个人消费市场的主导权，不想沦为<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">智能</a>汽车解决方案的汽车“代工厂”，从这一角度而言，车企的顾虑完全可以理解。</p>\n<p>但这又为百度的阿波罗计划造成了第二个困扰，如上文所言，在一开始的构想中，阿波罗借鉴了<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOG\">谷歌</a>的Android系统之于整个智能手机产业的思路，企图通过开源的方式发展成为整个智能汽车产业的中枢，这就直接导致了整车企业不愿意采用其解决方案。</p>\n<p>因此，百度在经过一番权衡之后，于2020年底开始酝酿自己下场造车，这当然有觊觎智能汽车庞大市场潜力的心态，但同时也是出于不得已而为之的考量。最终，今年3月，百度与吉利联合推出了集度汽车，并计划5年内投入500亿元造车。</p>\n<p>不过，这又让百度陷入了另一个困扰——既当裁判又当运动员，这与当下华为鸿蒙系统的困境相似，如果车企采用了百度的自动驾驶方案，那么自己的命脉会不会掌握在竞争对手手里？百度在提供自动驾驶技术输出时，会不会有所偏向？</p>\n<p>除此之外，百度的自动驾驶方案还面临着其他选手的激烈竞争，最为突出的当属华为。极狐汽车作为华为与百度的共同合作伙伴，已经发布了基于华为HI方案的阿尔法智能汽车，依靠30年的ICT能力，华为为其提供了包括1个全新的智能汽车数字化架构和5大智能系统。在整个解决方案里，华为已经具备了“全栈”智能能力，包括芯片、操作系统、语言、地图、云计算、大数据、车路协同、自动驾驶、软件迭代升级和云端数据训练等。</p>\n<p>更重要的一点是，华为自2018年就已宣布不造车是公司铁律，并且多次重申这一战略不会改变，这与百度所选择的亲自下场造车完全不同，这也会成为车企在二者之间进行选择时考量的因素。</p>\n<p>基于上述种种考虑，徐宝强在此次媒体采访中透露，百度将选择另外一条路径，即避开车企希望掌控主导权、竞争激烈的个人消费市场，从共享汽车业务层面切入。在这方面，今年6月份极狐汽车与百度 Apollo 发布了无人共享车 Apollo Moon，价格为48万元，成本仅为其它 L4 级自动驾驶车辆的三分之一，百度认为这有望真正将 Robotaxi 带进网约车运营成本区间。</p>\n<p>淡化押注了8年的自动驾驶系统平台，转而选择应用前景不明朗、市场空间小、落地更困难的智能共享汽车，究竟是选择，还是不得已？相信只有百度自己更清楚了。</p>\n<p><b>集度汽车能否扛起大旗？</b></p>\n<p>如果百度转向，发展重点不再是向车企输出自动驾驶技术，那么，集度汽车很可能是百度造车梦的最终载体。从股权机构来看，百度持股份额达到了55%，除了夏一平，另有梁志翔、何俊杰、李震宇三位董事来自百度，只有安聪慧一位董事来自吉利，由此可见百度对于集度汽车有着更高的掌控力与期望。</p>\n<p>另外，从双方的硬性条件来说，确实是一对天成佳偶，作为互联网科技巨头，百度技术实力自然不必多说，尤其是深耕AI与自动驾驶多年。吉利方面，其2020年总销量高达132万辆，汽车生产能力非常强悍。此外，吉利自研的 SEA浩瀚汽车架构基于软件定义汽车的思路所打造，无论是硬件层、系统层还是生态层，均实现了行业内前所未有的兼容性，可以大幅缩短汽车的研发周期。因此，集度汽车才敢于喊出三年内实现量产的口号。</p>\n<p>同时，百度承诺未来五年内将投入500亿元进行研发，远超<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">蔚来</a>、小鹏、理想10亿元级别的研发投入，从这一角度而言，扎实的自动驾驶技术与长期的巨额投入，或许真的能够为集度汽车带来更优秀的市场表现。</p>\n<p>然而，含着金钥匙出生的集度汽车也并非完全没有隐忧。首先就是造车团队的搭建，2021年4月，夏一平预计到2022年年底，集度汽车核心团队规模将扩大到2500-3000人。</p>\n<p>从之前的3-4人团队，到2022年底的近3000人，团队组建几乎是从零开始。至今，集度的团队中有来自传统车企和已经在新势力融合过的人，也有来自互联网、消费电子领域的同事。这一方面带来了集度汽车在各方面的整合优势，但另一方面这样的优势也必须在充分地磨合基础上才能实现。毕竟，创业团队或多或少、或长或短都会经历一个磨合时期。</p>\n<p>但一个不可否认的事实是，百度体系内部关系复杂，即使曾经<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSFT\">微软</a>光环加身的陆奇，在调整自动驾驶业务时也造成了王劲、吴恩达等核心人员的流失，没能理顺内部关系。夏一平能在多大程度上调动内部资源，做好集度汽车尚未可知。</p>\n<p>其次，虽然夏一平认同智能化才是未来智能汽车的核心竞争力，“智能化不只是形态上，也是底层技术，从下至上的重构。”并把这种从下至上的重构定义为“端到端的生态”。这与目前行业的普遍共识相一致——智能汽车未来一定是与用户生活深度融合，也就是与用户其他设备构成一套「无感知」级的 IoT 生态系统，但是眼下无论是百度还是吉利，都没有为其提供生态系统赋能的能力。</p>\n<p>生态构建却并不是百度的强项，百度在移动端不仅软件覆盖广度和深度远远落后于阿里、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00700\">腾讯</a>，在硬件方面也缺少手机之类能够与用户产生强联系的设备，百度也至今未能建立起属于自己的一套 IoT 物联网生态系统，这都是决定着未来集度汽车是否能够获得消费者认可的关键因素。</p>\n<p>最后，百度与吉利的合作方式也是业界的另一担忧点。通常来说，造车周期很长，而双方选择的合资造车方式在业内很少有成功的案例，如果一旦出现合作理念分歧，将对集度汽车的影响巨大。同时，资深汽车分析师梅松林博士认为，“打造汽车品牌资金投入很大，双方是不是都有足够的耐心和实力、双方的主业是否会影响投资，都是未知数。而如果合作中遇到挑战，双方之间是否依然互相信任，同样会影响到合作。</p>\n<p>因此，可以说豪言3年量产的集度汽车虽是含着金钥匙出生，关乎百度的未来，但其所面临的局面却并不乐观，尤其是在自身团队尚未理顺、生态构建缺位，以及与吉利的合资造车模式，任意一项出现纰漏都将导致晚入局的百度难以后来居上。因为全力押注集度汽车，百度的自动驾驶安卓梦也几乎无疾而终。</p>\n<p>百度，是否一不小心，成为<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/002594\">比亚迪</a>CEO王传福口中“浪费三年”造车之人？</p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/68a814138696b6daf296c3939a776531","relate_stocks":{"QNETCN":"纳斯达克中美互联网老虎指数","BIDU":"百度","09888":"百度集团-SW"},"is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1110754441","content_text":"起了个大早赶了个晚集\n\n百度自动驾驶不再想成为汽车的“灵魂”了？\n在上汽集团董事长陈虹提出要把“灵魂”掌握在自己手中后不久，百度自动驾驶产品运营部总监徐宝强近期在接受媒体采访时表示：“百度现在的发展方向还并不是把自动驾驶技术输出给车企，而是希望推动共享领域的无人出行事业。”\n在上述言论中，百度透露了两点关键信息：百度不再重点输出自动驾驶技术、专注共享领域无人驾驶。显然，这与最初百度推出阿波罗计划时的目标已经发生了180度的大转弯。\n那么，不再强调输出无人驾驶技术的百度，还能否讲好AI的故事？\n汽车战略转向\n在无人驾驶这个赛道，百度是起步最早的一批。\n早在2013年，百度便在内部启动了无人车项目，打磨四年之后于2017年4月正式推出Apollo系统，致力于打造“自动驾驶领域的安卓系统”，目标是向汽车行业及自动驾驶领域的合作伙伴提供一个开放、完整、安全的软件平台，帮助他们结合车辆和硬件系统，快速搭建一套属于自己的完整的自动驾驶系统。\n至今，百度的无人车项目已启动近八年，累计投资数百亿，参与百度“阿波罗计划”的有戴勒姆奔驰、丰田、本田、大众、宝马、拜腾等十余家车厂，还有其他科研机构、互联网公司、运营商等。阿波罗计划成为一个行业性的巨大联盟，号召力强大。\n百度做自动驾驶有着其他厂商无可比拟的优势，比如AI技术储备和百度地图。在技术上，百度拥有云存储、高精地图等全方位技术，而AI又是百度的固有优势。同时，百度地图拥有强大的用户基础，从自动驾驶的采集能力以及资质上来看，百度在业界也处于领先地位。\n然而，随着造车新势力的崛起，以及华为、小米、360等科技企业的入局，拥有先发优势的阿波罗计划的存在感越来越弱。事实上，截至目前，还没有车企量产产品大规模搭载百度的自动驾驶系统。\n原因何在？业内普遍认为，阿波罗计划的L4级目标定位过高，难以实现商业化是其前进遇阻的最主要原因。\n“汽车的软件代码数量比智能手机高出10倍左右，自动驾驶技术也比电动技术复杂得多，商业化落地难度更是远超电动汽车。”一位汽车行业分析师表示，自动驾驶行业是一个既烧钱又费时的领域，要想实现商业化落地，还需要更多的技术沉淀以及更为适合的商业模式。\n不少试乘百度无人车的用户表示，百度无人车存在着转向绕行半径大、平均车速慢、行驶过程中超车困难以及打车时必须到指定地点上车等方面的问题，虽然这些问题都并非致命硬伤，但对于乘客而言，驾乘感受并不友好，真正取代传统汽车可能还需要更多时间。\n从目前市场上特斯拉、小鹏、蔚来等造车新势力的销量来看，外界更为认同的自动驾驶实现方式首先还是L2、L3级别的辅助自动驾驶，其次才可能逐步过渡至L4级别。\n当然，消费者的使用感受只是一方面，来自法律法规层面的阻力则更为直接。由于目前法律法规对于完全自动驾驶汽车上路许可的限制，L4级自动驾驶更多的只能行驶于封闭、局限的特定场景之下，用户对于选择一款L4级别自动驾驶汽车的兴趣，也因此被减弱了。当年李彦宏坐上「自动驾驶汽车」在北京四环现场直播，结果就遭到了交管部门约谈。\n为此，百度自动驾驶不得不优先满足不同地方政府的法规要求，这也让百度自动驾驶变成了以地方政府要求为导向的自动驾驶团队。无论是合作车型选择、测试地点，以及产品研发，百度的阿波罗都很难按照最利于技术发展的节奏来考量，而是以是否能获得地方政策扶持作为第一标准。\n因此，即使L4级自动驾驶前景十分明朗，但囿于当下的驾乘感受及监管政策现实，百度最初所设想的赋能整车企业的梦想只能当作愿景缓慢推进，直至现在不得不从顶层设计层面做出战略改变——不向车企输出自动驾驶技术。\n裁判与选手的抉择\n华为HI方案为什么不被上汽所采纳？从整车企业的角度而言，必然希望能由自己来掌握个人消费市场的主导权，不想沦为智能汽车解决方案的汽车“代工厂”，从这一角度而言，车企的顾虑完全可以理解。\n但这又为百度的阿波罗计划造成了第二个困扰，如上文所言，在一开始的构想中，阿波罗借鉴了谷歌的Android系统之于整个智能手机产业的思路，企图通过开源的方式发展成为整个智能汽车产业的中枢，这就直接导致了整车企业不愿意采用其解决方案。\n因此，百度在经过一番权衡之后，于2020年底开始酝酿自己下场造车，这当然有觊觎智能汽车庞大市场潜力的心态，但同时也是出于不得已而为之的考量。最终，今年3月，百度与吉利联合推出了集度汽车，并计划5年内投入500亿元造车。\n不过，这又让百度陷入了另一个困扰——既当裁判又当运动员，这与当下华为鸿蒙系统的困境相似，如果车企采用了百度的自动驾驶方案，那么自己的命脉会不会掌握在竞争对手手里？百度在提供自动驾驶技术输出时，会不会有所偏向？\n除此之外，百度的自动驾驶方案还面临着其他选手的激烈竞争，最为突出的当属华为。极狐汽车作为华为与百度的共同合作伙伴，已经发布了基于华为HI方案的阿尔法智能汽车，依靠30年的ICT能力，华为为其提供了包括1个全新的智能汽车数字化架构和5大智能系统。在整个解决方案里，华为已经具备了“全栈”智能能力，包括芯片、操作系统、语言、地图、云计算、大数据、车路协同、自动驾驶、软件迭代升级和云端数据训练等。\n更重要的一点是，华为自2018年就已宣布不造车是公司铁律，并且多次重申这一战略不会改变，这与百度所选择的亲自下场造车完全不同，这也会成为车企在二者之间进行选择时考量的因素。\n基于上述种种考虑，徐宝强在此次媒体采访中透露，百度将选择另外一条路径，即避开车企希望掌控主导权、竞争激烈的个人消费市场，从共享汽车业务层面切入。在这方面，今年6月份极狐汽车与百度 Apollo 发布了无人共享车 Apollo Moon，价格为48万元，成本仅为其它 L4 级自动驾驶车辆的三分之一，百度认为这有望真正将 Robotaxi 带进网约车运营成本区间。\n淡化押注了8年的自动驾驶系统平台，转而选择应用前景不明朗、市场空间小、落地更困难的智能共享汽车，究竟是选择，还是不得已？相信只有百度自己更清楚了。\n集度汽车能否扛起大旗？\n如果百度转向，发展重点不再是向车企输出自动驾驶技术，那么，集度汽车很可能是百度造车梦的最终载体。从股权机构来看，百度持股份额达到了55%，除了夏一平，另有梁志翔、何俊杰、李震宇三位董事来自百度，只有安聪慧一位董事来自吉利，由此可见百度对于集度汽车有着更高的掌控力与期望。\n另外，从双方的硬性条件来说，确实是一对天成佳偶，作为互联网科技巨头，百度技术实力自然不必多说，尤其是深耕AI与自动驾驶多年。吉利方面，其2020年总销量高达132万辆，汽车生产能力非常强悍。此外，吉利自研的 SEA浩瀚汽车架构基于软件定义汽车的思路所打造，无论是硬件层、系统层还是生态层，均实现了行业内前所未有的兼容性，可以大幅缩短汽车的研发周期。因此，集度汽车才敢于喊出三年内实现量产的口号。\n同时，百度承诺未来五年内将投入500亿元进行研发，远超蔚来、小鹏、理想10亿元级别的研发投入，从这一角度而言，扎实的自动驾驶技术与长期的巨额投入，或许真的能够为集度汽车带来更优秀的市场表现。\n然而，含着金钥匙出生的集度汽车也并非完全没有隐忧。首先就是造车团队的搭建，2021年4月，夏一平预计到2022年年底，集度汽车核心团队规模将扩大到2500-3000人。\n从之前的3-4人团队，到2022年底的近3000人，团队组建几乎是从零开始。至今，集度的团队中有来自传统车企和已经在新势力融合过的人，也有来自互联网、消费电子领域的同事。这一方面带来了集度汽车在各方面的整合优势，但另一方面这样的优势也必须在充分地磨合基础上才能实现。毕竟，创业团队或多或少、或长或短都会经历一个磨合时期。\n但一个不可否认的事实是，百度体系内部关系复杂，即使曾经微软光环加身的陆奇，在调整自动驾驶业务时也造成了王劲、吴恩达等核心人员的流失，没能理顺内部关系。夏一平能在多大程度上调动内部资源，做好集度汽车尚未可知。\n其次，虽然夏一平认同智能化才是未来智能汽车的核心竞争力，“智能化不只是形态上，也是底层技术，从下至上的重构。”并把这种从下至上的重构定义为“端到端的生态”。这与目前行业的普遍共识相一致——智能汽车未来一定是与用户生活深度融合，也就是与用户其他设备构成一套「无感知」级的 IoT 生态系统，但是眼下无论是百度还是吉利，都没有为其提供生态系统赋能的能力。\n生态构建却并不是百度的强项，百度在移动端不仅软件覆盖广度和深度远远落后于阿里、腾讯，在硬件方面也缺少手机之类能够与用户产生强联系的设备，百度也至今未能建立起属于自己的一套 IoT 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All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'.&nbsp; 2.&nbsp;How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","listText":"Hello, dear Tigers!&nbsp; Happy&nbsp;Halloween!&nbsp;🎃🎃🎃&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=\"https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/activity/market/2021/halloween/?lang=en_US#/\" target=\"_blank\">Tap&nbsp;here&nbsp;to&nbsp;play the Halloween game,&nbsp;and&nbsp;you&nbsp;stand&nbsp;a&nbsp;chance&nbsp;to win various rewards!&nbsp;</a> Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1.&nbsp;How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. 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Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":2,"essential":1,"paper":2,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/850756569","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":0,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":479,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":842407612,"gmtCreate":1636211669951,"gmtModify":1636211670027,"author":{"id":"3582021985778477","authorId":"3582021985778477","name":"Jackychua","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/da85c2e9479860997fd43352bd76a7d5","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3582021985778477","authorIdStr":"3582021985778477"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"这篇文章不错，转发给大家看","listText":"这篇文章不错，转发给大家看","text":"这篇文章不错，转发给大家看","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/842407612","repostId":"850756569","repostType":1,"repost":{"id":850756569,"gmtCreate":1634631211448,"gmtModify":1635853120757,"author":{"id":"36984908995200","authorId":"36984908995200","name":"小虎活动","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9e396d03155923b283948d2dec9191f8","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"36984908995200","authorIdStr":"36984908995200"},"themes":[],"title":"[Halloween Game] Trade or Treat!","htmlText":"Hello, dear Tigers!&nbsp; Happy&nbsp;Halloween!&nbsp;🎃🎃🎃&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=\"https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/activity/market/2021/halloween/?lang=en_US#/\" target=\"_blank\">Tap&nbsp;here&nbsp;to&nbsp;play the Halloween game,&nbsp;and&nbsp;you&nbsp;stand&nbsp;a&nbsp;chance&nbsp;to win various rewards!&nbsp;</a> Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1.&nbsp;How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'.&nbsp; 2.&nbsp;How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","listText":"Hello, dear Tigers!&nbsp; Happy&nbsp;Halloween!&nbsp;🎃🎃🎃&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=\"https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/activity/market/2021/halloween/?lang=en_US#/\" target=\"_blank\">Tap&nbsp;here&nbsp;to&nbsp;play the Halloween game,&nbsp;and&nbsp;you&nbsp;stand&nbsp;a&nbsp;chance&nbsp;to win various rewards!&nbsp;</a> Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1.&nbsp;How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'.&nbsp; 2.&nbsp;How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","text":"Hello, dear Tigers! Happy Halloween! 🎃🎃🎃 Tap here to play the Halloween game, and you stand a chance to win various rewards! Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1. How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'. 2. How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":2,"essential":1,"paper":2,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/850756569","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":0,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":703,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":842124265,"gmtCreate":1636157414215,"gmtModify":1636157414287,"author":{"id":"3582021985778477","authorId":"3582021985778477","name":"Jackychua","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/da85c2e9479860997fd43352bd76a7d5","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3582021985778477","authorIdStr":"3582021985778477"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"这篇文章不错，转发给大家看","listText":"这篇文章不错，转发给大家看","text":"这篇文章不错，转发给大家看","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/842124265","repostId":"850756569","repostType":1,"repost":{"id":850756569,"gmtCreate":1634631211448,"gmtModify":1635853120757,"author":{"id":"36984908995200","authorId":"36984908995200","name":"小虎活动","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9e396d03155923b283948d2dec9191f8","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"36984908995200","authorIdStr":"36984908995200"},"themes":[],"title":"[Halloween Game] Trade or Treat!","htmlText":"Hello, dear Tigers!&nbsp; Happy&nbsp;Halloween!&nbsp;🎃🎃🎃&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=\"https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/activity/market/2021/halloween/?lang=en_US#/\" target=\"_blank\">Tap&nbsp;here&nbsp;to&nbsp;play the Halloween game,&nbsp;and&nbsp;you&nbsp;stand&nbsp;a&nbsp;chance&nbsp;to win various rewards!&nbsp;</a> Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1.&nbsp;How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'.&nbsp; 2.&nbsp;How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","listText":"Hello, dear Tigers!&nbsp; Happy&nbsp;Halloween!&nbsp;🎃🎃🎃&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=\"https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/activity/market/2021/halloween/?lang=en_US#/\" target=\"_blank\">Tap&nbsp;here&nbsp;to&nbsp;play the Halloween game,&nbsp;and&nbsp;you&nbsp;stand&nbsp;a&nbsp;chance&nbsp;to win various rewards!&nbsp;</a> Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1.&nbsp;How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'.&nbsp; 2.&nbsp;How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","text":"Hello, dear Tigers! Happy Halloween! 🎃🎃🎃 Tap here to play the Halloween game, and you stand a chance to win various rewards! Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1. How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'. 2. How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":2,"essential":1,"paper":2,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/850756569","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":0,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":606,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":842305150,"gmtCreate":1636129649890,"gmtModify":1636129649995,"author":{"id":"3582021985778477","authorId":"3582021985778477","name":"Jackychua","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/da85c2e9479860997fd43352bd76a7d5","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3582021985778477","authorIdStr":"3582021985778477"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"这篇文章不错，转发给大家看","listText":"这篇文章不错，转发给大家看","text":"这篇文章不错，转发给大家看","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/842305150","repostId":"850756569","repostType":1,"repost":{"id":850756569,"gmtCreate":1634631211448,"gmtModify":1635853120757,"author":{"id":"36984908995200","authorId":"36984908995200","name":"小虎活动","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9e396d03155923b283948d2dec9191f8","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"36984908995200","authorIdStr":"36984908995200"},"themes":[],"title":"[Halloween Game] Trade or Treat!","htmlText":"Hello, dear Tigers!&nbsp; Happy&nbsp;Halloween!&nbsp;🎃🎃🎃&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=\"https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/activity/market/2021/halloween/?lang=en_US#/\" target=\"_blank\">Tap&nbsp;here&nbsp;to&nbsp;play the Halloween game,&nbsp;and&nbsp;you&nbsp;stand&nbsp;a&nbsp;chance&nbsp;to win various rewards!&nbsp;</a> Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1.&nbsp;How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'.&nbsp; 2.&nbsp;How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","listText":"Hello, dear Tigers!&nbsp; Happy&nbsp;Halloween!&nbsp;🎃🎃🎃&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=\"https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/activity/market/2021/halloween/?lang=en_US#/\" target=\"_blank\">Tap&nbsp;here&nbsp;to&nbsp;play the Halloween game,&nbsp;and&nbsp;you&nbsp;stand&nbsp;a&nbsp;chance&nbsp;to win various rewards!&nbsp;</a> Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1.&nbsp;How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'.&nbsp; 2.&nbsp;How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","text":"Hello, dear Tigers! Happy Halloween! 🎃🎃🎃 Tap here to play the Halloween game, and you stand a chance to win various rewards! Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1. How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'. 2. How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":2,"essential":1,"paper":2,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/850756569","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":0,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":562,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":848739847,"gmtCreate":1636027651233,"gmtModify":1636027651299,"author":{"id":"3582021985778477","authorId":"3582021985778477","name":"Jackychua","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/da85c2e9479860997fd43352bd76a7d5","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3582021985778477","authorIdStr":"3582021985778477"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"这篇文章不错，转发给大家看","listText":"这篇文章不错，转发给大家看","text":"这篇文章不错，转发给大家看","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/848739847","repostId":"850756569","repostType":1,"repost":{"id":850756569,"gmtCreate":1634631211448,"gmtModify":1635853120757,"author":{"id":"36984908995200","authorId":"36984908995200","name":"小虎活动","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9e396d03155923b283948d2dec9191f8","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"36984908995200","authorIdStr":"36984908995200"},"themes":[],"title":"[Halloween Game] Trade or Treat!","htmlText":"Hello, dear Tigers!&nbsp; Happy&nbsp;Halloween!&nbsp;🎃🎃🎃&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=\"https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/activity/market/2021/halloween/?lang=en_US#/\" target=\"_blank\">Tap&nbsp;here&nbsp;to&nbsp;play the Halloween game,&nbsp;and&nbsp;you&nbsp;stand&nbsp;a&nbsp;chance&nbsp;to win various rewards!&nbsp;</a> Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1.&nbsp;How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'.&nbsp; 2.&nbsp;How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","listText":"Hello, dear Tigers!&nbsp; Happy&nbsp;Halloween!&nbsp;🎃🎃🎃&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=\"https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/activity/market/2021/halloween/?lang=en_US#/\" target=\"_blank\">Tap&nbsp;here&nbsp;to&nbsp;play the Halloween game,&nbsp;and&nbsp;you&nbsp;stand&nbsp;a&nbsp;chance&nbsp;to win various rewards!&nbsp;</a> Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1.&nbsp;How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'.&nbsp; 2.&nbsp;How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","text":"Hello, dear Tigers! Happy Halloween! 🎃🎃🎃 Tap here to play the Halloween game, and you stand a chance to win various rewards! Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1. How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'. 2. How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":2,"essential":1,"paper":2,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/850756569","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":0,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":532,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":841074786,"gmtCreate":1635865830525,"gmtModify":1635865830525,"author":{"id":"3582021985778477","authorId":"3582021985778477","name":"Jackychua","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/da85c2e9479860997fd43352bd76a7d5","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3582021985778477","authorIdStr":"3582021985778477"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"不错","listText":"不错","text":"不错","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/841074786","repostId":"850756569","repostType":1,"repost":{"id":850756569,"gmtCreate":1634631211448,"gmtModify":1635853120757,"author":{"id":"36984908995200","authorId":"36984908995200","name":"小虎活动","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9e396d03155923b283948d2dec9191f8","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"36984908995200","authorIdStr":"36984908995200"},"themes":[],"title":"[Halloween Game] Trade or Treat!","htmlText":"Hello, dear Tigers!&nbsp; Happy&nbsp;Halloween!&nbsp;🎃🎃🎃&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=\"https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/activity/market/2021/halloween/?lang=en_US#/\" target=\"_blank\">Tap&nbsp;here&nbsp;to&nbsp;play the Halloween game,&nbsp;and&nbsp;you&nbsp;stand&nbsp;a&nbsp;chance&nbsp;to win various rewards!&nbsp;</a> Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1.&nbsp;How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'.&nbsp; 2.&nbsp;How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","listText":"Hello, dear Tigers!&nbsp; Happy&nbsp;Halloween!&nbsp;🎃🎃🎃&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=\"https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/activity/market/2021/halloween/?lang=en_US#/\" target=\"_blank\">Tap&nbsp;here&nbsp;to&nbsp;play the Halloween game,&nbsp;and&nbsp;you&nbsp;stand&nbsp;a&nbsp;chance&nbsp;to win various rewards!&nbsp;</a> Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1.&nbsp;How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'.&nbsp; 2.&nbsp;How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while av","text":"Hello, dear Tigers! Happy Halloween! 🎃🎃🎃 Tap here to play the Halloween game, and you stand a chance to win various rewards! Promotion Period: October 27, 2021 18:00 - November 9, 2021 18:00 (SGT) 1. How to Participate? All Tiger clients may collect points which can be used to redeem rewards by taking part in the Trade or Treating Game. All existing Tiger clients will have 2 game attempts. Clients can get more game attempts by completing different tasks, such as 'Invite a friend' or 'Share Halloween Game'. 2. How to collect points? Each player has 30 seconds to catch falling candies while 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Store，开发者利用SOA平台向用户提供服务时，可以采用买断式或订阅式收费。开发者取得商业收益，车企也可以获得利润。只是，SOA平台尚在起步阶段，如何制定商业模式还不明朗。</p>\n<p>目前选择将整车搭建SOA平台，上汽零束、威马是为数不多的两家，而哪吒、高合有提及引入SOA理念，不过产品目前没有落地。</p>\n<p>上汽零束已经与首批开发者一起，开发了几十个智能车专属应用场景，几百个用户“千人千面”模式，以及部分典型的汽车智能化应用，目前平台的软件可以在上汽旗下R汽车和智己汽车上通用。</p>\n<p>威马在威马W6汽车中应用SOA平台，上线了自定义编程功能，自定义场景超100个，手机端与车机端同步；哪吒S也将整个系统基于SOA架构，不过产品正式上市时间可能在2022年下半年。</p>\n<p>对比这几家，上汽、威马在SOA平台上的探索是有产品落地的，其中上汽的开放进程跑得更快，威马的落地时间即汽车发布时间则稍早一些。而哪吒因为整车未公布，进度最慢。</p>\n<p>即便如此，上汽零束SOA平台的开放性都仍有大幅提升空间。「智能相对论」了解到，其平台分为三种模式，面向普通用户、第三方开发者的两种版本已对外界公布，而面向OEM和供应商的版本并未具体展示。</p>\n<p>作为走向开放的关键部分，车企想让其实现跨品牌、跨车型是最为困难的，不仅对研发工程师团队提出高要求，而且还要关系到和Tier1、其他OEM的利益权衡。这也让大家期待SOA平台时，看到了很多的困难和挑战。</p>\n<p><b>搭“戏台”不易，还怕“没人唱戏、没人捧场”</b></p>\n<p>通过SOA架构，还有一层好处是，软件的开发主导权会回归车企。随之而来的是，车企需要大量研发工作，也需要人才。</p>\n<p>业内人士告诉「智能相对论」，“架构工程师薪酬就很高，可不是开高薪就能招到的，因为这个职位对人的要求极高，他要对车和软件都有专业的理解。”</p>\n<p>在整车功能定义初期，整个SOA团队就必须要参与进来，这个无论是上汽零束、威马、哪吒，还是其他车企都要花费一大笔钱。但除开技术层面，之后还有许多现实问题存在，比如车企如何吸引开发者入驻平台？</p>\n<p>以上汽零束SOA平台为例，若要达到让更多开发者甚至普通用户，持续参与软件开发的初衷，需要降低进入门槛来扩大用户基数，帮助平台氛围活跃起来。打造好服务和功能后，再带动整个平台质量提高以吸引新的开发者，最终反哺SOA平台。一旦运转起来就会有“飞轮效应”，形成规模化。</p>\n<p>许多互联网现象都与此类似，比如外卖、拼购电商、网约车平台，商家量和用户量是相互促进、互为前提的。平台为了扩大两者规模，砸钱补贴往往是冷启动常见的做法。</p>\n<p>事实的确如此，开发者不可能一直是“为爱发电”。类似于App Store，做好激励方案是车企需要思考的问题。车企前期投入难以避免，而之后，用户、开发者、车企三者之间的利益如何划分十分重要，这关乎到平台的长期生存。</p>\n<p>还有一个关键问题是，车企如何打破边界？手机软件开发者在开发时，只需要围绕安卓和iOS两个系统，再简单进行机型适配即可。而软件上车时，有着数不清的车型、品牌。无论是上汽零束还是威马，目前平台还只是落地在旗下车型，未来开发者规模要打开新的增长空间，无疑需要更多友商融入平台。</p>\n<p>这一块的困难其实不在于平台如何“适配”友商，更在于平台如何“吸纳”友商。汽车行业当下的趋势是，传统汽车硬件、智能化硬件这类底层的东西逐渐变成开放的、标准化、有产业规模支撑的。各家的竞争反而是软件层和服务层的竞争，它们都是“友商”不愿失去的。</p>\n<p>此外，安全问题也是平台发展的必要考量。汽车上有数百个硬件可供软件调用，考虑到驾驶安全，因此汽车软件的容错率（如闪退、崩溃）要远远低于App Store。</p>\n<p>这就意味着，一些涉及汽车运动、自动驾驶的功能无法开放给用户，只能交由研发能力强的OEM自己设计。这也就产生一个矛盾的事实：“高技术准入门槛”和“吸引更多开发者”不可兼得，因为安全必须得到保证。</p>\n<p>威马表示，W6用户可以通过“威马快捷”，创建属于自己的驾驶模式，包括L2驾驶辅助系统、音乐、空调温度、座椅调整等用户偏好的软硬件设置，按照自己的喜好进行添加和设置。而上汽零束在介绍平台时，具体谈的更多也是生活、娱乐系统功能。</p>\n<p>娱乐系统功能本身的安全等级低于其他域的要求，是最为容易实现的，而ADAS域内则完全相反。所以在SOA平台发展趋势中，功能需要上汽零束、威马一步一步去推、去完善，直至完全打通。</p>\n<p><b>灵魂拷问：大家都想做，凭什么你成功？</b></p>\n<p>理想很丰满，现实却有些骨感。车企若想建立起SOA平台这条护城河，其面临的难度不可小觑。此前提及到，盯住其巨大潜能的车企已有上汽、威马，哪吒、高合也对SOA架构跃跃欲试。</p>\n<p>当然，这些只是目前已知的主机厂。包括小米、滴滴等在内，愈多科技互联网巨头开始布局智能汽车领域。从“软件定义汽车”到“用户定义汽车”成为热门，小米、滴滴们重视“SOA”是可以想象的。</p>\n<p>小米滴滴凭借在原有业务领域的硬件制造、软件运营等优势，造车算是做了一次新相关战略延伸。其中小米背后有着比传统车企更庞大的用户量，更能够支撑起SOA平台的商业化想象。</p>\n<p>小米造车的体系架构目前尚不可知，但面对其数量庞大的“米粉”们，小米无疑会重视他们的意见，很大概率会引入“SOA”。通过SOA平台，“米粉”可以生成符合自己拥车偏好及驾驶习惯的个性化场景，这与其强调“用户参与感”是相契合的。</p>\n<p>相比于友商们，上汽零束、威马的优势在于“先发”，会更早地跑出一定规模。华为智能汽车解决方案BU总裁王军在上汽开发者大会就表示，软件平台应用范围越广，边际成本越低。规模化俨然是实现盈利最根本的商业逻辑。</p>\n<p>尽管百度、腾讯、华为等多家科技互联网公司都谈到自身与上汽SOA之间的可能性合作，但它们和上汽未来更会是竞合关系，把这些东西掌握在自己手里。同样地，其他车企也会搭建自己的SOA平台，发展思路可以是向外扩张或者选择自用，但也意味着上汽、威马SOA平台失去这部分资源。</p>\n<p>可是对于小车企而言，它们会去考虑用户规模能否支撑自建平台做好商业化。若决定使用大型车企的平台，它们会去权衡哪个平台生态做得更好，这样自身产业链每一环都有望从中受益。</p>\n<p>因此，吸纳这部分小车企会是将来上汽等大型车企扩大“朋友圈”的重要方向。长期来看，随着上汽零束SOA平台逐步开放，其将会在其他品牌车上测试。无论小车企是否采用自己的平台，第一步可以先把接口标准统一，便于小车企融入生态。</p>\n<p>总的来看，电动化、智能化正在构筑起下一轮产业竞争的新赛道，而SOA平台成为一众车企抢夺声量的关键之一。人人都想做“App 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Store。SOA之于汽车，就好比苹果App Store之于iPhone，它将汽车的硬件能力开放出来，供软件开发者调用，以实现相应的功能。\n从iPhone 3G问世并向第三方开发者开放Apple Store，到如今Apple Store上已经有超过500万应用，苹果由此拥有了全球领先的软件生态。在苹果手机上为数不多的传感器、执行器支持下，iOS已能够提供百万级应用，而汽车的硬件复杂程度远超手机，将SOA平台导入其中，背后的想象空间是巨大的。\n一个不懂编写代码的普通用户，可以通过将车窗、音响、氛围灯等各个模块的触发条件集合到自己的APP中，生成符合用户需求的个性化场景。APP上传到应用商店再下载到车上，用户便可使用。\n比如，车内需要透气时，司机希望打开汽车外循环，同时两位乘客分别希望打开车窗和天窗，这样就出现三个不同的需求，而它们完全可以通过用户自我定制来实现。这只是最简单的玩法，通过多种功能组合，理论上可产生海量全新的应用，最终拓展智能汽车的能力。\n类似于App Store，开发者利用SOA平台向用户提供服务时，可以采用买断式或订阅式收费。开发者取得商业收益，车企也可以获得利润。只是，SOA平台尚在起步阶段，如何制定商业模式还不明朗。\n目前选择将整车搭建SOA平台，上汽零束、威马是为数不多的两家，而哪吒、高合有提及引入SOA理念，不过产品目前没有落地。\n上汽零束已经与首批开发者一起，开发了几十个智能车专属应用场景，几百个用户“千人千面”模式，以及部分典型的汽车智能化应用，目前平台的软件可以在上汽旗下R汽车和智己汽车上通用。\n威马在威马W6汽车中应用SOA平台，上线了自定义编程功能，自定义场景超100个，手机端与车机端同步；哪吒S也将整个系统基于SOA架构，不过产品正式上市时间可能在2022年下半年。\n对比这几家，上汽、威马在SOA平台上的探索是有产品落地的，其中上汽的开放进程跑得更快，威马的落地时间即汽车发布时间则稍早一些。而哪吒因为整车未公布，进度最慢。\n即便如此，上汽零束SOA平台的开放性都仍有大幅提升空间。「智能相对论」了解到，其平台分为三种模式，面向普通用户、第三方开发者的两种版本已对外界公布，而面向OEM和供应商的版本并未具体展示。\n作为走向开放的关键部分，车企想让其实现跨品牌、跨车型是最为困难的，不仅对研发工程师团队提出高要求，而且还要关系到和Tier1、其他OEM的利益权衡。这也让大家期待SOA平台时，看到了很多的困难和挑战。\n搭“戏台”不易，还怕“没人唱戏、没人捧场”\n通过SOA架构，还有一层好处是，软件的开发主导权会回归车企。随之而来的是，车企需要大量研发工作，也需要人才。\n业内人士告诉「智能相对论」，“架构工程师薪酬就很高，可不是开高薪就能招到的，因为这个职位对人的要求极高，他要对车和软件都有专业的理解。”\n在整车功能定义初期，整个SOA团队就必须要参与进来，这个无论是上汽零束、威马、哪吒，还是其他车企都要花费一大笔钱。但除开技术层面，之后还有许多现实问题存在，比如车企如何吸引开发者入驻平台？\n以上汽零束SOA平台为例，若要达到让更多开发者甚至普通用户，持续参与软件开发的初衷，需要降低进入门槛来扩大用户基数，帮助平台氛围活跃起来。打造好服务和功能后，再带动整个平台质量提高以吸引新的开发者，最终反哺SOA平台。一旦运转起来就会有“飞轮效应”，形成规模化。\n许多互联网现象都与此类似，比如外卖、拼购电商、网约车平台，商家量和用户量是相互促进、互为前提的。平台为了扩大两者规模，砸钱补贴往往是冷启动常见的做法。\n事实的确如此，开发者不可能一直是“为爱发电”。类似于App Store，做好激励方案是车企需要思考的问题。车企前期投入难以避免，而之后，用户、开发者、车企三者之间的利益如何划分十分重要，这关乎到平台的长期生存。\n还有一个关键问题是，车企如何打破边界？手机软件开发者在开发时，只需要围绕安卓和iOS两个系统，再简单进行机型适配即可。而软件上车时，有着数不清的车型、品牌。无论是上汽零束还是威马，目前平台还只是落地在旗下车型，未来开发者规模要打开新的增长空间，无疑需要更多友商融入平台。\n这一块的困难其实不在于平台如何“适配”友商，更在于平台如何“吸纳”友商。汽车行业当下的趋势是，传统汽车硬件、智能化硬件这类底层的东西逐渐变成开放的、标准化、有产业规模支撑的。各家的竞争反而是软件层和服务层的竞争，它们都是“友商”不愿失去的。\n此外，安全问题也是平台发展的必要考量。汽车上有数百个硬件可供软件调用，考虑到驾驶安全，因此汽车软件的容错率（如闪退、崩溃）要远远低于App Store。\n这就意味着，一些涉及汽车运动、自动驾驶的功能无法开放给用户，只能交由研发能力强的OEM自己设计。这也就产生一个矛盾的事实：“高技术准入门槛”和“吸引更多开发者”不可兼得，因为安全必须得到保证。\n威马表示，W6用户可以通过“威马快捷”，创建属于自己的驾驶模式，包括L2驾驶辅助系统、音乐、空调温度、座椅调整等用户偏好的软硬件设置，按照自己的喜好进行添加和设置。而上汽零束在介绍平台时，具体谈的更多也是生活、娱乐系统功能。\n娱乐系统功能本身的安全等级低于其他域的要求，是最为容易实现的，而ADAS域内则完全相反。所以在SOA平台发展趋势中，功能需要上汽零束、威马一步一步去推、去完善，直至完全打通。\n灵魂拷问：大家都想做，凭什么你成功？\n理想很丰满，现实却有些骨感。车企若想建立起SOA平台这条护城河，其面临的难度不可小觑。此前提及到，盯住其巨大潜能的车企已有上汽、威马，哪吒、高合也对SOA架构跃跃欲试。\n当然，这些只是目前已知的主机厂。包括小米、滴滴等在内，愈多科技互联网巨头开始布局智能汽车领域。从“软件定义汽车”到“用户定义汽车”成为热门，小米、滴滴们重视“SOA”是可以想象的。\n小米滴滴凭借在原有业务领域的硬件制造、软件运营等优势，造车算是做了一次新相关战略延伸。其中小米背后有着比传统车企更庞大的用户量，更能够支撑起SOA平台的商业化想象。\n小米造车的体系架构目前尚不可知，但面对其数量庞大的“米粉”们，小米无疑会重视他们的意见，很大概率会引入“SOA”。通过SOA平台，“米粉”可以生成符合自己拥车偏好及驾驶习惯的个性化场景，这与其强调“用户参与感”是相契合的。\n相比于友商们，上汽零束、威马的优势在于“先发”，会更早地跑出一定规模。华为智能汽车解决方案BU总裁王军在上汽开发者大会就表示，软件平台应用范围越广，边际成本越低。规模化俨然是实现盈利最根本的商业逻辑。\n尽管百度、腾讯、华为等多家科技互联网公司都谈到自身与上汽SOA之间的可能性合作，但它们和上汽未来更会是竞合关系，把这些东西掌握在自己手里。同样地，其他车企也会搭建自己的SOA平台，发展思路可以是向外扩张或者选择自用，但也意味着上汽、威马SOA平台失去这部分资源。\n可是对于小车企而言，它们会去考虑用户规模能否支撑自建平台做好商业化。若决定使用大型车企的平台，它们会去权衡哪个平台生态做得更好，这样自身产业链每一环都有望从中受益。\n因此，吸纳这部分小车企会是将来上汽等大型车企扩大“朋友圈”的重要方向。长期来看，随着上汽零束SOA平台逐步开放，其将会在其他品牌车上测试。无论小车企是否采用自己的平台，第一步可以先把接口标准统一，便于小车企融入生态。\n总的来看，电动化、智能化正在构筑起下一轮产业竞争的新赛道，而SOA平台成为一众车企抢夺声量的关键之一。人人都想做“App 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