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2021-10-05

$Alibaba(BABA)$ Fundmentals and Conviction I know many brothers and sisters out there are very frustrated on BABA and China stocks. At this time, we need to reflect. What is the fundamental for this company ? Has the fundamentals changed ?How convicted are we on this stuck?If u are losing sleep over this, then maybe u can have a less concentration funds on BABA, For me, I am frustrated too. But I know if i treat this like fixed deposit, I know BABA will go back up intime to come.Disclaimer: I am not a financial advisor and pls do your own financial evaluation and analysis

2021-06-23

That’s a good step to work w the China govt. Maythe IPO be out soon and let Alibaba start to go up to fair value !

BRIEF-Jack Ma's Ant In Talks To Share Data Trove With State Firms - WSJ

2021-04-11

Hopefully. this marks the end/ bottom for Alibaba

NEWSMAKER-Record penalty for Ma's Alibaba marks tumultuous stretch for its founder

2021-11-18

$Alibaba(BABA)$Conviction! Everyone can copy Munger but can u copy his conviction?Frankly, the latest financial report is ok.. but if u are worried, or losing your sleep, should U exit?For me, I am staying put. I like the long term potenrial! And i think it will have a good chance to go upnext year onwards

2021-06-14

My take : Alibaba will be the King!

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2021-06-04

Huge growth potential, low PE valuation, wide diversified offering within the group.. there is only a few of the same! Go Baba go!

Can Alibaba Stock Hit $500? If You Got Time, Yes

2021-05-10

Looking forward to the full year Alibaba results coming outsoon!

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2021-06-03

Good start!

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2021-05-14

So now we know who this the net seller for Alibabayesterday... all the best to Ark!

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2021-11-30

$Alibaba(BABA)$How low can u go….. :(

2021-10-06

Nice! Best way to endorse we are on the right stock!

Charlie Munger nearly doubled down on Alibaba as share prices dropped

2021-10-01

$Alibaba(BABA)$I just took a look at Alibaba PE…17.3+…. Wanted to laugh… this price is ridiculouslycheap!

2021-06-03

Too the moon!

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2021-05-19

I agree

Regulatory Issues Aside, Don’t Ignore Alibaba’s Hidden Potential

2021-05-06

Fingers crossed!! Hope that will signal the beginning on a great news!

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2021-10-01

From current price, 144 to move up to 240, , that isa 66% upside… that is considered as not a strong buy??? Laughter!!

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2021-06-11

I agree. BABA is more compelling buy compared to JD and PDD

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2021-06-01

Waiting for the uptrend!

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2021-05-13

Great performance!!

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But I know if i treat this like fixed deposit, I know BABA will go back up intime to come.Disclaimer: &nbsp;I am not a financial advisor and pls do your own financial evaluation and analysis&nbsp;","text":"$Alibaba(BABA)$ Fundmentals and Conviction I know many brothers and sisters out there are very frustrated on BABA and China stocks. At this time, we need to reflect. What is the fundamental for this company ? Has the fundamentals changed ?How convicted are we on this stuck?If u are losing sleep over this, then maybe u can have a less concentration funds on BABA, For me, I am frustrated too. But I know if i treat this like fixed deposit, I know BABA will go back up intime to come.Disclaimer: I am not a financial advisor and pls do your own financial evaluation and analysis","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":9,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/820780914","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1858,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3574381076586256","authorId":"3574381076586256","name":"KYHBKO","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c3bcbc7f9a10836dea92afc94bf39b5b","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3574381076586256","authorIdStr":"3574381076586256"},"content":"if we are losing sleep, then our positions are too big for our threshold. maybe downsizing can be helpful till we can sleep over our positions.","text":"if we are losing sleep, then our positions are too big for our threshold. maybe downsizing can be helpful till we can sleep over our positions.","html":"if we are losing sleep, then our positions are too big for our threshold. maybe downsizing can be helpful till we can sleep over our positions."}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":864295568,"gmtCreate":1633102838922,"gmtModify":1633102839104,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"From current price, 144 to move up to 240, , that isa 66% upside… that is considered as not a strong buy??? Laughter!!","listText":"From current price, 144 to move up to 240, , that isa 66% upside… that is considered as not a strong buy??? Laughter!!","text":"From current price, 144 to move up to 240, , that isa 66% upside… that is considered as not a strong buy??? Laughter!!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/864295568","repostId":"2172396895","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1208,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":864296090,"gmtCreate":1633102483359,"gmtModify":1633102483576,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">$Alibaba(BABA)$</a>I just took a look at Alibaba PE…17.3+…. Wanted to laugh… this price is ridiculouslycheap!","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">$Alibaba(BABA)$</a>I just took a look at Alibaba PE…17.3+…. Wanted to laugh… this price is ridiculouslycheap!","text":"$Alibaba(BABA)$I just took a look at Alibaba PE…17.3+…. Wanted to laugh… this price is ridiculouslycheap!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/864296090","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1204,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":121983954,"gmtCreate":1624449375778,"gmtModify":1631884666099,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"That’s a good step to work w the China govt. &nbsp;Maythe IPO be out soon and let Alibaba start to go up to fair value !","listText":"That’s a good step to work w the China govt. &nbsp;Maythe IPO be out soon and let Alibaba start to go up to fair value !","text":"That’s a good step to work w the China govt. Maythe IPO be out soon and let Alibaba start to go up to fair value !","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":7,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/121983954","repostId":"2145995020","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2145995020","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Reuters.com brings you the latest news from around the world, covering breaking news in markets, business, politics, entertainment and technology","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Reuters","id":"1036604489","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868"},"pubTimestamp":1624443172,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2145995020?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-23 18:12","market":"hk","language":"en","title":"BRIEF-Jack Ma's Ant In Talks To Share Data Trove With State Firms - WSJ","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2145995020","media":"Reuters","summary":"June 23 (Reuters) -    * JACK MA'S ANT IN TALKS TO SHARE DATA TROVE WITH STATE FIRMS - WSJ   * ANT I","content":"<html><body><p>June 23 (Reuters) - </p><p>   * JACK MA'S ANT IN TALKS TO SHARE DATA TROVE WITH STATE FIRMS - WSJ</p><p>   * ANT IS IN DISCUSSIONS TO START A NEW CREDIT-SCORING BUSINESS WITH STATE-OWNED ENTERPRISES - WSJ</p><p>((reuters.briefs@thomsonreuters.com;))</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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BABA&nbsp;is more compelling buy compared to JD and PDD","listText":"I agree. BABA&nbsp;is more compelling buy compared to JD and PDD","text":"I agree. BABA is more compelling buy compared to JD and PDD","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/188364054","repostId":"1195128984","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":269,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":116734847,"gmtCreate":1622818572489,"gmtModify":1631890535384,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Huge&nbsp;growth potential, low PE valuation, wide diversified offering within the group.. &nbsp;there is only a few of the same! Go Baba go!","listText":"Huge&nbsp;growth potential, low PE valuation, wide diversified offering within the group.. &nbsp;there is only a few of the same! Go Baba go!","text":"Huge growth potential, low PE valuation, wide diversified offering within the group.. there is only a few of the same! Go Baba go!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/116734847","repostId":"1154529120","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1154529120","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1622810459,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1154529120?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-04 20:40","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Can Alibaba Stock Hit $500? If You Got Time, Yes","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1154529120","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Alibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.I believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing the latter.In the long run, BABA has a chance of delivering strong gains for those that buy at the current, quite low, valuation.Since its IPO, Alibaba has seen strong share price gains, but it should also be mentioned that shares did peek in H2 2020, and have declined considerably since then:. Alibaba Group'","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>Alibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.</li>\n <li>I believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing the latter.</li>\n <li>In the long run, BABA has a chance of delivering strong gains for those that buy at the current, quite low, valuation.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/567d19950e6c8789ce2192b4503f0fa5\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"653\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Photo by efetova/iStock via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Article Thesis</b></p>\n<p>Alibaba Group (BABA) is a leading global high-tech name that continues to generate attractive growth and that offers investors exposure to the high-growth Chinese consumer market. At the same time, through a range of ventures, Alibaba is also active in additional industries, such as cloud computing. Shares have declined considerably over the last couple of months, but I believe that the long-term potential is significant. I would not be surprised to see shares rise towards $500, although that will not happen in the near term.</p>\n<p><b>BABA Stock Price</b></p>\n<p>Since its IPO, Alibaba has seen strong share price gains, but it should also be mentioned that shares did peek in H2 2020, and have declined considerably since then:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8079eeb5384ea003fb3725d3cd1e877f\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"403\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p>\n<p>Shares are now basically where they were one year ago, as the gains during summer 2020 have been erased when Ant Financial's IPO plans were stopped. The flat share price performance over the last year is somewhat surprising, though, as Alibaba continued to generate strong results in that time frame. During the last quarter, for example, Alibaba showcased a&nbsp;revenue growth rate of 64%, while revenue growth during the previous quarter was also very strong, at around 50%. This is not the only positive in Alibaba's earnings releases, however. The company also managed to grow its user count by 32 million during the most recent quarter alone, which equates to an annualized user growth rate of around 20%. This bodes well for future quarters, as more users on Alibaba's platform should translate into higher revenues. On top of that, the strong user growth shows that there is still growing demand for the shopping services that Alibaba's platforms offer -- the market is not saturated at all. Alibaba also managed to grow its EBITDA by 25% year over year, which is an attractive growth pace as well, and which was achieved despite growing investments in what management calls key growth areas. Income from operations, meanwhile, grew at an even faster pace, thanks to some operating leverage, rising by 48% year over year when adjusted for the fine that Alibaba had to pay during Q1. It makes, I believe, sense to back out this one-time item to get a clearer picture about Alibaba's underlying, \"core\" profitability during an average quarter.</p>\n<p>Alibaba Group's weak share price performance, relative to the broad market and other tech names, is thus not the result of weak operating performance, but rather a result of multiple compression, driven by weak investor sentiment due to China exposure and&nbsp;fears about regulation.</p>\n<p>At its current price of $220, BABA trades at a quite large discount compared to the current consensus analyst price target of $298. If Alibaba were to hit that, shares would gain 35%. Analyst price targets are usually issued with a 1-year time frame, thus, if the analyst community is correct, Alibaba could be a great investment. From a valuation standpoint, this price target doesn't seem outrageous at all, as $298 would equate to around 29x this year's expected net profits, or 23x next year's net earnings. The latter is likely the more telling one when we talk about a price target for summer 2022, i.e. 1 year from now.</p>\n<p><b>Can Alibaba Stock Hit $500?</b></p>\n<p>The answer to that question, I think, depends on your time frame. If you are looking at a 12-month window, then Alibaba will most likely not be able to hit $500. The ~$300 price target seems achievable, although that is, of course, also not guaranteed. If, however, we take a longer-term view, then $500 seems like a share price that BABA could hit eventually. Let's look at a couple of examples.</p>\n<p><i>- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $20 at some point and traded at an earnings multiple of 25, then shares would trade at $500.</i></p>\n<p><i>- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $25 and traded at a 20x earnings multiple, then shares would trade at $500.</i></p>\n<p><i>- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $17 and traded at 29x its net profits, then shares would trade at (marginally below) $500.</i></p>\n<p>We see that there are many scenarios that could get us to a $500 share price for BABA, some of them more likely than others. Of course, the higher your target multiple, the lower the earnings that would be required. This, in turn, means that the price target can be hit sooner, as less cumulative earnings growth would be required. When we take a look at how Alibaba was valued in the past, we see that the longer-term median earnings multiples for BABA look like this:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dd2d42b7094deb394266d6410287c2e4\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"436\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p>\n<p>At 30-40x net earnings, Alibaba was clearly trading at a massive premium relative to how shares are valued today (around 20x this year's earnings). I think that the current valuation is too low, but on the other hand, I do not expect Alibaba to trade at 30, 35, or even 40x net profits in coming years. Due to the growing scale of Alibaba, which makes it a little harder to maintain its excellent growth in coming years, shares will likely trade at a lower valuation in coming years, compared to how they were valued in the past.</p>\n<p>I still think that shares do have some valuation expansion potential from the current earnings multiple of around 21, thus let's assume that shares trade at 23x net profits in the future. This would still represent a massive discount versus the historic valuation, and also a substantial discount compared to how US-based high-tech mega-caps are valued -- Amazon (AMZN), for example, trades at 59x this year's earnings.</p>\n<p>If we want to get to a $500 share price for BABA using a 23x earnings multiple, then we get to earnings per share of $21.70 that Alibaba must generate. When could this be the case? In the following chart, we see EPS estimates for the current year, next year (CY 2022), and CY 2023:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6fcf78e0b071eff9753afbdcd96f751c\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"436\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p>\n<p>If analysts are right, Alibaba will not get to earn $22 a share through 2023, and I think that is realistic. I do not see earnings per share rising by 100%+ between this year and 2023, either. From 2023, it would take another 43% increase in Alibaba's earnings per share to get to $21.70, which is our \"target EPS\" for a $500 share price.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7b4c351b4b5eb3328191ccaa9a3b776c\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"403\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p>\n<p>Analysts are currently forecasting long-term EPS growth of around 27%, which would mean it would take Alibaba about 1.5 years to grow its EPS from $15.20 (2023 estimate) to our target of $21.70. Even if we assume that this is too optimistic and that growth will be just 20% in 2024 and 2025, EPS of $21.70 could be hit by the end of 2025. So, in other words, if Alibaba grows a little less than what analysts are forecasting right now, Alibaba could trade at $500 by the end of 2025 -- or 4.5 years from now. Note that this scenario does not require a high earnings multiple at all -- at 23x net profits, Alibaba wouldn't be expensive, I believe.</p>\n<p>We can get even more conservative and assume that the 2023 EPS estimate is 10% too high and that EPS will grow by just 17% a year in the years beyond 2023 (versus a long-term forecast of 27% a year by the analyst community). In that case, Alibaba would hit $21.70 in earnings per share in 2026, and shares would rise to $500 over the next 5.5 years. Even in this scenario, BABA wouldn't be a bad investment at all -- a 130% share price increase from the current level over the next 5.5 years would equate to annualized returns of 16%.</p>\n<p>So, to sum this section up, I'd say<i>yes, BABA can hit $500</i>-- but it will realistically take a couple of years. By the mid-2020s, this seems like a very achievable goal to me, although there are, of course, no guarantees.</p>\n<p><b>Is Alibaba Stock A Buy Or Sell Now?</b></p>\n<p>Alibaba Group is, I believe, a strong investment. The company generates strong growth, profits from multiple long-term macro trends, such as growing consumer spending in China, growing e-commerce market share, and cloud computing. There are, however, risks to consider: Alibaba is highly China-dependent, and in case the economic growth story in China ends, Alibaba would be hurt a lot. On top of that, Alibaba could be targeted again by regulators, although I personally think that it is not in China's best interest to hurt one of its highest-growth tech companies.</p>\n<p>For those that worry about these risks, Alibaba may not be the right choice, but for those that see Alibaba as a potentially very rewarding play on Chinese consumers, BABA could be a strong pick in a diversified portfolio. I belong to the latter group and thus rate the stock a buy at current valuations, expecting significant upside over the coming years. Depending on your risk tolerance and how you weigh the opportunities and threats of investing in Chinese companies, you may decide differently, however.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Can Alibaba Stock Hit $500? 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If You Got Time, Yes\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-04 20:40 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432992-alibaba-stock-hit-500><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nAlibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.\nI believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432992-alibaba-stock-hit-500\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BABA":"阿里巴巴","09988":"阿里巴巴-W"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432992-alibaba-stock-hit-500","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1154529120","content_text":"Summary\n\nAlibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.\nI believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing the latter.\nIn the long run, BABA has a chance of delivering strong gains for those that buy at the current, quite low, valuation.\n\nPhoto by efetova/iStock via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nAlibaba Group (BABA) is a leading global high-tech name that continues to generate attractive growth and that offers investors exposure to the high-growth Chinese consumer market. At the same time, through a range of ventures, Alibaba is also active in additional industries, such as cloud computing. Shares have declined considerably over the last couple of months, but I believe that the long-term potential is significant. I would not be surprised to see shares rise towards $500, although that will not happen in the near term.\nBABA Stock Price\nSince its IPO, Alibaba has seen strong share price gains, but it should also be mentioned that shares did peek in H2 2020, and have declined considerably since then:\nData byYCharts\nShares are now basically where they were one year ago, as the gains during summer 2020 have been erased when Ant Financial's IPO plans were stopped. The flat share price performance over the last year is somewhat surprising, though, as Alibaba continued to generate strong results in that time frame. During the last quarter, for example, Alibaba showcased a revenue growth rate of 64%, while revenue growth during the previous quarter was also very strong, at around 50%. This is not the only positive in Alibaba's earnings releases, however. The company also managed to grow its user count by 32 million during the most recent quarter alone, which equates to an annualized user growth rate of around 20%. This bodes well for future quarters, as more users on Alibaba's platform should translate into higher revenues. On top of that, the strong user growth shows that there is still growing demand for the shopping services that Alibaba's platforms offer -- the market is not saturated at all. Alibaba also managed to grow its EBITDA by 25% year over year, which is an attractive growth pace as well, and which was achieved despite growing investments in what management calls key growth areas. Income from operations, meanwhile, grew at an even faster pace, thanks to some operating leverage, rising by 48% year over year when adjusted for the fine that Alibaba had to pay during Q1. It makes, I believe, sense to back out this one-time item to get a clearer picture about Alibaba's underlying, \"core\" profitability during an average quarter.\nAlibaba Group's weak share price performance, relative to the broad market and other tech names, is thus not the result of weak operating performance, but rather a result of multiple compression, driven by weak investor sentiment due to China exposure and fears about regulation.\nAt its current price of $220, BABA trades at a quite large discount compared to the current consensus analyst price target of $298. If Alibaba were to hit that, shares would gain 35%. Analyst price targets are usually issued with a 1-year time frame, thus, if the analyst community is correct, Alibaba could be a great investment. From a valuation standpoint, this price target doesn't seem outrageous at all, as $298 would equate to around 29x this year's expected net profits, or 23x next year's net earnings. The latter is likely the more telling one when we talk about a price target for summer 2022, i.e. 1 year from now.\nCan Alibaba Stock Hit $500?\nThe answer to that question, I think, depends on your time frame. If you are looking at a 12-month window, then Alibaba will most likely not be able to hit $500. The ~$300 price target seems achievable, although that is, of course, also not guaranteed. If, however, we take a longer-term view, then $500 seems like a share price that BABA could hit eventually. Let's look at a couple of examples.\n- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $20 at some point and traded at an earnings multiple of 25, then shares would trade at $500.\n- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $25 and traded at a 20x earnings multiple, then shares would trade at $500.\n- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $17 and traded at 29x its net profits, then shares would trade at (marginally below) $500.\nWe see that there are many scenarios that could get us to a $500 share price for BABA, some of them more likely than others. Of course, the higher your target multiple, the lower the earnings that would be required. This, in turn, means that the price target can be hit sooner, as less cumulative earnings growth would be required. When we take a look at how Alibaba was valued in the past, we see that the longer-term median earnings multiples for BABA look like this:\nData byYCharts\nAt 30-40x net earnings, Alibaba was clearly trading at a massive premium relative to how shares are valued today (around 20x this year's earnings). I think that the current valuation is too low, but on the other hand, I do not expect Alibaba to trade at 30, 35, or even 40x net profits in coming years. Due to the growing scale of Alibaba, which makes it a little harder to maintain its excellent growth in coming years, shares will likely trade at a lower valuation in coming years, compared to how they were valued in the past.\nI still think that shares do have some valuation expansion potential from the current earnings multiple of around 21, thus let's assume that shares trade at 23x net profits in the future. This would still represent a massive discount versus the historic valuation, and also a substantial discount compared to how US-based high-tech mega-caps are valued -- Amazon (AMZN), for example, trades at 59x this year's earnings.\nIf we want to get to a $500 share price for BABA using a 23x earnings multiple, then we get to earnings per share of $21.70 that Alibaba must generate. When could this be the case? In the following chart, we see EPS estimates for the current year, next year (CY 2022), and CY 2023:\nData byYCharts\nIf analysts are right, Alibaba will not get to earn $22 a share through 2023, and I think that is realistic. I do not see earnings per share rising by 100%+ between this year and 2023, either. From 2023, it would take another 43% increase in Alibaba's earnings per share to get to $21.70, which is our \"target EPS\" for a $500 share price.\nData byYCharts\nAnalysts are currently forecasting long-term EPS growth of around 27%, which would mean it would take Alibaba about 1.5 years to grow its EPS from $15.20 (2023 estimate) to our target of $21.70. Even if we assume that this is too optimistic and that growth will be just 20% in 2024 and 2025, EPS of $21.70 could be hit by the end of 2025. So, in other words, if Alibaba grows a little less than what analysts are forecasting right now, Alibaba could trade at $500 by the end of 2025 -- or 4.5 years from now. Note that this scenario does not require a high earnings multiple at all -- at 23x net profits, Alibaba wouldn't be expensive, I believe.\nWe can get even more conservative and assume that the 2023 EPS estimate is 10% too high and that EPS will grow by just 17% a year in the years beyond 2023 (versus a long-term forecast of 27% a year by the analyst community). In that case, Alibaba would hit $21.70 in earnings per share in 2026, and shares would rise to $500 over the next 5.5 years. Even in this scenario, BABA wouldn't be a bad investment at all -- a 130% share price increase from the current level over the next 5.5 years would equate to annualized returns of 16%.\nSo, to sum this section up, I'd sayyes, BABA can hit $500-- but it will realistically take a couple of years. By the mid-2020s, this seems like a very achievable goal to me, although there are, of course, no guarantees.\nIs Alibaba Stock A Buy Or Sell Now?\nAlibaba Group is, I believe, a strong investment. The company generates strong growth, profits from multiple long-term macro trends, such as growing consumer spending in China, growing e-commerce market share, and cloud computing. There are, however, risks to consider: Alibaba is highly China-dependent, and in case the economic growth story in China ends, Alibaba would be hurt a lot. On top of that, Alibaba could be targeted again by regulators, although I personally think that it is not in China's best interest to hurt one of its highest-growth tech companies.\nFor those that worry about these risks, Alibaba may not be the right choice, but for those that see Alibaba as a potentially very rewarding play on Chinese consumers, BABA could be a strong pick in a diversified portfolio. I belong to the latter group and thus rate the stock a buy at current valuations, expecting significant upside over the coming years. Depending on your risk tolerance and how you weigh the opportunities and threats of investing in Chinese companies, you may decide differently, however.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":320,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":118807771,"gmtCreate":1622726956793,"gmtModify":1631890535386,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Too the moon!","listText":"Too the moon!","text":"Too the moon!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/118807771","repostId":"1180328270","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1180328270","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Stock Market Quotes, Business News, Financial News, Trading Ideas, and Stock Research by Professionals","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Benzinga","id":"1052270027","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d08bf7808052c0ca9deb4e944cae32aa"},"pubTimestamp":1622726210,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1180328270?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-03 21:16","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Is Alibaba's Stock About To Rally?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1180328270","media":"Benzinga","summary":"Support is a large concentration of buyers who are all looking to pay the same price. At support lev","content":"<p>Support is a large concentration of buyers who are all looking to pay the same price. At support levels, there is more demand for shares than there is supply. That’s why sell-offs end when they reach them.</p>\n<p>Sometimes when stocks fall to support, the tide turns and the stock rallies or rebounds.</p>\n<p>This is what happened to shares of&nbsp;<b>Alibaba Group Holding Limited</b>(NYSE:BABA) when they fell to $211.50 in December. Now it looks like it may happen again.</p>\n<p>Alibaba's stock reached this support on May 13. 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At support levels, there is more demand for shares than there is supply. That’s why sell-offs end when they reach them.</p>\n<p>Sometimes when stocks fall to support, the tide turns and the stock rallies or rebounds.</p>\n<p>This is what happened to shares of&nbsp;<b>Alibaba Group Holding Limited</b>(NYSE:BABA) when they fell to $211.50 in December. Now it looks like it may happen again.</p>\n<p>Alibaba's stock reached this support on May 13. Shares were able to hold, and now they may be rebounding.</p>\n<p>The stock closed Wednesday at $219.59.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/be199b13c5ecb52bd61d1f4d5e15fc86\" tg-width=\"1531\" tg-height=\"819\"></p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"09988":"阿里巴巴-W","BABA":"阿里巴巴"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1180328270","content_text":"Support is a large concentration of buyers who are all looking to pay the same price. At support levels, there is more demand for shares than there is supply. That’s why sell-offs end when they reach them.\nSometimes when stocks fall to support, the tide turns and the stock rallies or rebounds.\nThis is what happened to shares of Alibaba Group Holding Limited(NYSE:BABA) when they fell to $211.50 in December. Now it looks like it may happen again.\nAlibaba's stock reached this support on May 13. Shares were able to hold, and now they may be rebounding.\nThe stock closed Wednesday at $219.59.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":209,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":118370618,"gmtCreate":1622720987334,"gmtModify":1631890535389,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Good start!","listText":"Good start!","text":"Good 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Ark!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/198790510","repostId":"1112285344","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":273,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":191799135,"gmtCreate":1620905237127,"gmtModify":1631890535400,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Great&nbsp;performance!!","listText":"Great&nbsp;performance!!","text":"Great 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outsoon!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/190719256","repostId":"2134341786","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":590,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":105690302,"gmtCreate":1620294924806,"gmtModify":1631884327995,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Fingers crossed!! &nbsp;Hope that will signal the beginning on a great news!","listText":"Fingers crossed!! &nbsp;Hope that will signal the beginning on a great news!","text":"Fingers crossed!! Hope that will signal the beginning on a great news!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/105690302","repostId":"2133602520","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":288,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":342071465,"gmtCreate":1618140213657,"gmtModify":1631892804714,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Hopefully. this marks the end/ bottom for Alibaba","listText":"Hopefully. this marks the end/ bottom for Alibaba","text":"Hopefully. this marks the end/ bottom for Alibaba","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/342071465","repostId":"2126030131","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2126030131","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Reuters.com brings you the latest news from around the world, covering breaking news in markets, business, politics, entertainment and technology","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Reuters","id":"1036604489","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868"},"pubTimestamp":1618124861,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2126030131?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-04-11 15:07","market":"sh","language":"en","title":"NEWSMAKER-Record penalty for Ma's Alibaba marks tumultuous stretch for its founder","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2126030131","media":"Reuters","summary":"By Tony Munroe   BEIJING, April 11 (Reuters) - Once seemingly untouchable, Alibaba founder Jack Ma h","content":"<html><body><p>By Tony Munroe</p><p>   BEIJING, April 11 (Reuters) - Once seemingly untouchable, Alibaba founder Jack Ma has endured a tumultuous run that saw his Chinese e-commerce giant hit with a record 18 billion yuan ($2.75 billion) antitrust fine on Saturday, resolving <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE\">one</a> key uncertainty even as others persist for himself and his business empire.</p><p>   The reversal of fortune for the 56-year-old Ma, who has all-but-disappeared from public view since an October speech blasting China's regulatory system, has been striking for an entrepreneur whose transformation of commerce in China - and his relentless optimism - commanded cult-like reverence.            </p><p>   Ma, who stepped down from Alibaba in 2019 but looms large in the corporate psyche and in the eyes of investors, had revelled in pushing boundaries with audacious statements, taking a high profile even as most Chinese peers kept their heads down. </p><p>   Friends in high places, as well as pride in Alibaba's success, had protected Ma, sources have said.  </p><p>   That was until his Shanghai speech triggered a backlash that led to the scuppering of a blockbuster $37 billion IPO for Alibaba financial technology affiliate Ant Group, as well as a clampdown by authorities on the e-commerce giant itself and the wider \"platform economy\", which continues to reverberate.</p><p>   Ant, whose rapid growth and freewheeling lending practices drew regulatory concern about financial risk, remains subject to an enforced restructuring that is expected to rein in some of its most profitable businesses and slash its valuation.</p><p>   \"Entrepreneurship has to be disruptive. But being provocative to the government has its limits,\" said Duncan Clark, chairman of Beijing-based tech consultancy BDA China and author of a book on Alibaba and Ma. </p><p>   Saturday's settlement, he said, \"should draw a line\" under the matter for Alibaba. ] </p><p>   \"But for Ant and Jack, there's no line drawn yet,\" he said.</p><p>   Alibaba declined to comment on Ma, and his foundation did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Sunday.</p><p>   CONSPICUOUS ABSENCE</p><p>   Ma's absence from public view became conspicuous until he surfaced for the first time in three months in late January, speaking to a group of teachers by video, which sent Alibaba shares surging. He has continued to keep an extremely low profile.  </p><p>   \"He's playing a lot of golf and improving his handicap,\" said <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a> person who knows him.</p><p>   A former English teacher, Ma co-founded Alibaba   </p><p>  in 1999 from a shared apartment in the eastern city of Hangzhou, ultimately building a colossus that spans e-commerce, financial services, cloud computing and even supermarkets, making him China's most famous businessman.</p><p>   He was also China's richest, until the clampdown knocked him back to fourth place on the Hurun Global Rich List published in March, although Ma and his family's wealth still grew last year by 22% to 360 billion yuan, according to the list.  </p><p>   As of last July, he owned 4.8% of Alibaba. </p><p>   In 2018, Ma was revealed to be a Communist Party member by its official newspaper, debunking a public assumption that he was politically unattached. </p><p>   'ARROGANCE DISCOUNT'</p><p>   Ma has often been described in Chinese media as a source of national pride and even legend. His global prominence made him an almost-diplomatic figure. Countless books have been published on Alibaba's founding and Ma's business tactics.</p><p>   Ma-isms such as \"Today is hard, tomorrow will be worse, but the day after tomorrow will be sunshine\", are common in Chinese business circles. In Hangzhou, small firms have been known to set up altars adorned with images of Ma to bring good fortune.</p><p>   But in a February snub, Ma was left off a list of Chinese entrepreneurial leaders published by state media.  </p><p>   Franklin Chu, president of Sage Capital in Rye, New York, noted that Alibaba shares are trading at a 30% discount to their 52-week high.</p><p>   \"I call this the 'Jack Ma arrogance discount,' combined with the recent round of China-bashing coming out of Washington,\" he said.</p><p>   Alibaba, he said, \"needs to work hard to re-establish an accommodative relationship with its regulatory handlers.\"</p><p>   Since stepping back from the company, Ma has sought to focus his time on philanthropy and education, including his charitable trust, the Jack Ma Foundation, and two schools in Hangzhou.</p><p>   Ma was an active conference participant, making at least 12 appearances in 2019 before the COVID-19 pandemic began. In March 2020, he opened a <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter</a> account - the platform is blocked in China - which mainly tweeted about his foundation's COVID-19 prevention efforts. Its last tweet was on Oct. 10.</p><p>   \"It's crucial for Chinese entrepreneurs to be low-key. Don't speak casually. And don't say anything wrong,\" Edward Chen, chairman of Shanghai-based fintech consultancy China Rising Group, said in a social media video post.</p><p>   \"Prudence in words and action is the No. 1 priority so that Chinese entrepreneurs can live longer.\"</p><p>   ($1 = 6.5522 Chinese yuan renminbi)</p><p>    &lt;^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ China fines Alibaba record $2.75 bln for anti-monopoly violations       TIMELINE-Events leading up to China's fine on Alibaba   </p><p>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^&gt;</p><p>(Reporting by Tony Munroe in Beijing, Brenda Goh, Samuel Shen and Josh Horwitz in Shanghai, Kane Wu in Hong Kong and Ross Kerber in Boston; Editing by Kim Coghill)</p><p>((tony.munroe@thomsonreuters.com; +86 10 6627 1288; Reuters Messaging: tony.munroe.thomsonreuters.com@reuters.net))</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>NEWSMAKER-Record penalty for Ma's Alibaba marks tumultuous stretch for its founder</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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But being provocative to the government has its limits,\" said Duncan Clark, chairman of Beijing-based tech consultancy BDA China and author of a book on Alibaba and Ma. </p><p>   Saturday's settlement, he said, \"should draw a line\" under the matter for Alibaba. ] </p><p>   \"But for Ant and Jack, there's no line drawn yet,\" he said.</p><p>   Alibaba declined to comment on Ma, and his foundation did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Sunday.</p><p>   CONSPICUOUS ABSENCE</p><p>   Ma's absence from public view became conspicuous until he surfaced for the first time in three months in late January, speaking to a group of teachers by video, which sent Alibaba shares surging. He has continued to keep an extremely low profile.  </p><p>   \"He's playing a lot of golf and improving his handicap,\" said <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a> person who knows him.</p><p>   A former English teacher, Ma co-founded Alibaba   </p><p>  in 1999 from a shared apartment in the eastern city of Hangzhou, ultimately building a colossus that spans e-commerce, financial services, cloud computing and even supermarkets, making him China's most famous businessman.</p><p>   He was also China's richest, until the clampdown knocked him back to fourth place on the Hurun Global Rich List published in March, although Ma and his family's wealth still grew last year by 22% to 360 billion yuan, according to the list.  </p><p>   As of last July, he owned 4.8% of Alibaba. </p><p>   In 2018, Ma was revealed to be a Communist Party member by its official newspaper, debunking a public assumption that he was politically unattached. </p><p>   'ARROGANCE DISCOUNT'</p><p>   Ma has often been described in Chinese media as a source of national pride and even legend. His global prominence made him an almost-diplomatic figure. Countless books have been published on Alibaba's founding and Ma's business tactics.</p><p>   Ma-isms such as \"Today is hard, tomorrow will be worse, but the day after tomorrow will be sunshine\", are common in Chinese business circles. In Hangzhou, small firms have been known to set up altars adorned with images of Ma to bring good fortune.</p><p>   But in a February snub, Ma was left off a list of Chinese entrepreneurial leaders published by state media.  </p><p>   Franklin Chu, president of Sage Capital in Rye, New York, noted that Alibaba shares are trading at a 30% discount to their 52-week high.</p><p>   \"I call this the 'Jack Ma arrogance discount,' combined with the recent round of China-bashing coming out of Washington,\" he said.</p><p>   Alibaba, he said, \"needs to work hard to re-establish an accommodative relationship with its regulatory handlers.\"</p><p>   Since stepping back from the company, Ma has sought to focus his time on philanthropy and education, including his charitable trust, the Jack Ma Foundation, and two schools in Hangzhou.</p><p>   Ma was an active conference participant, making at least 12 appearances in 2019 before the COVID-19 pandemic began. In March 2020, he opened a <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter</a> account - the platform is blocked in China - which mainly tweeted about his foundation's COVID-19 prevention efforts. Its last tweet was on Oct. 10.</p><p>   \"It's crucial for Chinese entrepreneurs to be low-key. Don't speak casually. And don't say anything wrong,\" Edward Chen, chairman of Shanghai-based fintech consultancy China Rising Group, said in a social media video post.</p><p>   \"Prudence in words and action is the No. 1 priority so that Chinese entrepreneurs can live longer.\"</p><p>   ($1 = 6.5522 Chinese yuan renminbi)</p><p>    &lt;^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ China fines Alibaba record $2.75 bln for anti-monopoly violations       TIMELINE-Events leading up to China's fine on Alibaba   </p><p>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^&gt;</p><p>(Reporting by Tony Munroe in Beijing, Brenda Goh, Samuel Shen and Josh Horwitz in Shanghai, Kane Wu in Hong Kong and Ross Kerber in Boston; Editing by Kim Coghill)</p><p>((tony.munroe@thomsonreuters.com; +86 10 6627 1288; Reuters Messaging: tony.munroe.thomsonreuters.com@reuters.net))</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"09988":"阿里巴巴-W","QNETCN":"纳斯达克中美互联网老虎指数","BABA":"阿里巴巴"},"source_url":"http://api.rkd.refinitiv.com/api/News/News.svc/REST/News_1/RetrieveStoryML_1","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2126030131","content_text":"By Tony Munroe   BEIJING, April 11 (Reuters) - Once seemingly untouchable, Alibaba founder Jack Ma has endured a tumultuous run that saw his Chinese e-commerce giant hit with a record 18 billion yuan ($2.75 billion) antitrust fine on Saturday, resolving one key uncertainty even as others persist for himself and his business empire.   The reversal of fortune for the 56-year-old Ma, who has all-but-disappeared from public view since an October speech blasting China's regulatory system, has been striking for an entrepreneur whose transformation of commerce in China - and his relentless optimism - commanded cult-like reverence.               Ma, who stepped down from Alibaba in 2019 but looms large in the corporate psyche and in the eyes of investors, had revelled in pushing boundaries with audacious statements, taking a high profile even as most Chinese peers kept their heads down.    Friends in high places, as well as pride in Alibaba's success, had protected Ma, sources have said.     That was until his Shanghai speech triggered a backlash that led to the scuppering of a blockbuster $37 billion IPO for Alibaba financial technology affiliate Ant Group, as well as a clampdown by authorities on the e-commerce giant itself and the wider \"platform economy\", which continues to reverberate.   Ant, whose rapid growth and freewheeling lending practices drew regulatory concern about financial risk, remains subject to an enforced restructuring that is expected to rein in some of its most profitable businesses and slash its valuation.   \"Entrepreneurship has to be disruptive. But being provocative to the government has its limits,\" said Duncan Clark, chairman of Beijing-based tech consultancy BDA China and author of a book on Alibaba and Ma.    Saturday's settlement, he said, \"should draw a line\" under the matter for Alibaba. ]    \"But for Ant and Jack, there's no line drawn yet,\" he said.   Alibaba declined to comment on Ma, and his foundation did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Sunday.   CONSPICUOUS ABSENCE   Ma's absence from public view became conspicuous until he surfaced for the first time in three months in late January, speaking to a group of teachers by video, which sent Alibaba shares surging. He has continued to keep an extremely low profile.     \"He's playing a lot of golf and improving his handicap,\" said one person who knows him.   A former English teacher, Ma co-founded Alibaba     in 1999 from a shared apartment in the eastern city of Hangzhou, ultimately building a colossus that spans e-commerce, financial services, cloud computing and even supermarkets, making him China's most famous businessman.   He was also China's richest, until the clampdown knocked him back to fourth place on the Hurun Global Rich List published in March, although Ma and his family's wealth still grew last year by 22% to 360 billion yuan, according to the list.     As of last July, he owned 4.8% of Alibaba.    In 2018, Ma was revealed to be a Communist Party member by its official newspaper, debunking a public assumption that he was politically unattached.    'ARROGANCE DISCOUNT'   Ma has often been described in Chinese media as a source of national pride and even legend. His global prominence made him an almost-diplomatic figure. Countless books have been published on Alibaba's founding and Ma's business tactics.   Ma-isms such as \"Today is hard, tomorrow will be worse, but the day after tomorrow will be sunshine\", are common in Chinese business circles. In Hangzhou, small firms have been known to set up altars adorned with images of Ma to bring good fortune.   But in a February snub, Ma was left off a list of Chinese entrepreneurial leaders published by state media.     Franklin Chu, president of Sage Capital in Rye, New York, noted that Alibaba shares are trading at a 30% discount to their 52-week high.   \"I call this the 'Jack Ma arrogance discount,' combined with the recent round of China-bashing coming out of Washington,\" he said.   Alibaba, he said, \"needs to work hard to re-establish an accommodative relationship with its regulatory handlers.\"   Since stepping back from the company, Ma has sought to focus his time on philanthropy and education, including his charitable trust, the Jack Ma Foundation, and two schools in Hangzhou.   Ma was an active conference participant, making at least 12 appearances in 2019 before the COVID-19 pandemic began. In March 2020, he opened a Twitter account - the platform is blocked in China - which mainly tweeted about his foundation's COVID-19 prevention efforts. Its last tweet was on Oct. 10.   \"It's crucial for Chinese entrepreneurs to be low-key. Don't speak casually. And don't say anything wrong,\" Edward Chen, chairman of Shanghai-based fintech consultancy China Rising Group, said in a social media video post.   \"Prudence in words and action is the No. 1 priority so that Chinese entrepreneurs can live longer.\"   ($1 = 6.5522 Chinese yuan renminbi)    <^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ China fines Alibaba record $2.75 bln for anti-monopoly violations       TIMELINE-Events leading up to China's fine on Alibaba      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^>(Reporting by Tony Munroe in Beijing, Brenda Goh, Samuel Shen and Josh Horwitz in Shanghai, Kane Wu in Hong Kong and Ross Kerber in Boston; Editing by Kim Coghill)((tony.munroe@thomsonreuters.com; +86 10 6627 1288; Reuters Messaging: tony.munroe.thomsonreuters.com@reuters.net))","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":450,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"hots":[{"id":820780914,"gmtCreate":1633433004400,"gmtModify":1633433004670,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">$Alibaba(BABA)$</a> Fundmentals and Conviction&nbsp;I know many brothers and sisters out there are very frustrated on BABA and China stocks. &nbsp;At this time, we need to reflect. &nbsp;What is the fundamental for this company ? &nbsp;Has the fundamentals changed ?How convicted are we on this stuck?If u are losing sleep over this, then maybe u can have a less concentration funds on BABA, &nbsp;For me, I am frustrated too. But I know if i treat this like fixed deposit, I know BABA will go back up intime to come.Disclaimer: &nbsp;I am not a financial advisor and pls do your own financial evaluation and analysis&nbsp;","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">$Alibaba(BABA)$</a> Fundmentals and Conviction&nbsp;I know many brothers and sisters out there are very frustrated on BABA and China stocks. &nbsp;At this time, we need to reflect. &nbsp;What is the fundamental for this company ? &nbsp;Has the fundamentals changed ?How convicted are we on this stuck?If u are losing sleep over this, then maybe u can have a less concentration funds on BABA, &nbsp;For me, I am frustrated too. But I know if i treat this like fixed deposit, I know BABA will go back up intime to come.Disclaimer: &nbsp;I am not a financial advisor and pls do your own financial evaluation and analysis&nbsp;","text":"$Alibaba(BABA)$ Fundmentals and Conviction I know many brothers and sisters out there are very frustrated on BABA and China stocks. At this time, we need to reflect. What is the fundamental for this company ? Has the fundamentals changed ?How convicted are we on this stuck?If u are losing sleep over this, then maybe u can have a less concentration funds on BABA, For me, I am frustrated too. But I know if i treat this like fixed deposit, I know BABA will go back up intime to come.Disclaimer: I am not a financial advisor and pls do your own financial evaluation and analysis","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":9,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/820780914","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1858,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3574381076586256","authorId":"3574381076586256","name":"KYHBKO","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c3bcbc7f9a10836dea92afc94bf39b5b","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3574381076586256","authorIdStr":"3574381076586256"},"content":"if we are losing sleep, then our positions are too big for our threshold. maybe downsizing can be helpful till we can sleep over our positions.","text":"if we are losing sleep, then our positions are too big for our threshold. maybe downsizing can be helpful till we can sleep over our positions.","html":"if we are losing sleep, then our positions are too big for our threshold. maybe downsizing can be helpful till we can sleep over our positions."}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":121983954,"gmtCreate":1624449375778,"gmtModify":1631884666099,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"That’s a good step to work w the China govt. &nbsp;Maythe IPO be out soon and let Alibaba start to go up to fair value !","listText":"That’s a good step to work w the China govt. &nbsp;Maythe IPO be out soon and let Alibaba start to go up to fair value !","text":"That’s a good step to work w the China govt. Maythe IPO be out soon and let Alibaba start to go up to fair value !","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":7,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/121983954","repostId":"2145995020","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2145995020","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Reuters.com brings you the latest news from around the world, covering breaking news in markets, business, politics, entertainment and technology","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Reuters","id":"1036604489","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868"},"pubTimestamp":1624443172,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2145995020?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-23 18:12","market":"hk","language":"en","title":"BRIEF-Jack Ma's Ant In Talks To Share Data Trove With State Firms - WSJ","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2145995020","media":"Reuters","summary":"June 23 (Reuters) -    * JACK MA'S ANT IN TALKS TO SHARE DATA TROVE WITH STATE FIRMS - 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Once seemingly untouchable, Alibaba founder Jack Ma h","content":"<html><body><p>By Tony Munroe</p><p>   BEIJING, April 11 (Reuters) - Once seemingly untouchable, Alibaba founder Jack Ma has endured a tumultuous run that saw his Chinese e-commerce giant hit with a record 18 billion yuan ($2.75 billion) antitrust fine on Saturday, resolving <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE\">one</a> key uncertainty even as others persist for himself and his business empire.</p><p>   The reversal of fortune for the 56-year-old Ma, who has all-but-disappeared from public view since an October speech blasting China's regulatory system, has been striking for an entrepreneur whose transformation of commerce in China - and his relentless optimism - commanded cult-like reverence.            </p><p>   Ma, who stepped down from Alibaba in 2019 but looms large in the corporate psyche and in the eyes of investors, had revelled in pushing boundaries with audacious statements, taking a high profile even as most Chinese peers kept their heads down. </p><p>   Friends in high places, as well as pride in Alibaba's success, had protected Ma, sources have said.  </p><p>   That was until his Shanghai speech triggered a backlash that led to the scuppering of a blockbuster $37 billion IPO for Alibaba financial technology affiliate Ant Group, as well as a clampdown by authorities on the e-commerce giant itself and the wider \"platform economy\", which continues to reverberate.</p><p>   Ant, whose rapid growth and freewheeling lending practices drew regulatory concern about financial risk, remains subject to an enforced restructuring that is expected to rein in some of its most profitable businesses and slash its valuation.</p><p>   \"Entrepreneurship has to be disruptive. But being provocative to the government has its limits,\" said Duncan Clark, chairman of Beijing-based tech consultancy BDA China and author of a book on Alibaba and Ma. </p><p>   Saturday's settlement, he said, \"should draw a line\" under the matter for Alibaba. ] </p><p>   \"But for Ant and Jack, there's no line drawn yet,\" he said.</p><p>   Alibaba declined to comment on Ma, and his foundation did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Sunday.</p><p>   CONSPICUOUS ABSENCE</p><p>   Ma's absence from public view became conspicuous until he surfaced for the first time in three months in late January, speaking to a group of teachers by video, which sent Alibaba shares surging. He has continued to keep an extremely low profile.  </p><p>   \"He's playing a lot of golf and improving his handicap,\" said <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a> person who knows him.</p><p>   A former English teacher, Ma co-founded Alibaba   </p><p>  in 1999 from a shared apartment in the eastern city of Hangzhou, ultimately building a colossus that spans e-commerce, financial services, cloud computing and even supermarkets, making him China's most famous businessman.</p><p>   He was also China's richest, until the clampdown knocked him back to fourth place on the Hurun Global Rich List published in March, although Ma and his family's wealth still grew last year by 22% to 360 billion yuan, according to the list.  </p><p>   As of last July, he owned 4.8% of Alibaba. </p><p>   In 2018, Ma was revealed to be a Communist Party member by its official newspaper, debunking a public assumption that he was politically unattached. </p><p>   'ARROGANCE DISCOUNT'</p><p>   Ma has often been described in Chinese media as a source of national pride and even legend. His global prominence made him an almost-diplomatic figure. Countless books have been published on Alibaba's founding and Ma's business tactics.</p><p>   Ma-isms such as \"Today is hard, tomorrow will be worse, but the day after tomorrow will be sunshine\", are common in Chinese business circles. In Hangzhou, small firms have been known to set up altars adorned with images of Ma to bring good fortune.</p><p>   But in a February snub, Ma was left off a list of Chinese entrepreneurial leaders published by state media.  </p><p>   Franklin Chu, president of Sage Capital in Rye, New York, noted that Alibaba shares are trading at a 30% discount to their 52-week high.</p><p>   \"I call this the 'Jack Ma arrogance discount,' combined with the recent round of China-bashing coming out of Washington,\" he said.</p><p>   Alibaba, he said, \"needs to work hard to re-establish an accommodative relationship with its regulatory handlers.\"</p><p>   Since stepping back from the company, Ma has sought to focus his time on philanthropy and education, including his charitable trust, the Jack Ma Foundation, and two schools in Hangzhou.</p><p>   Ma was an active conference participant, making at least 12 appearances in 2019 before the COVID-19 pandemic began. In March 2020, he opened a <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter</a> account - the platform is blocked in China - which mainly tweeted about his foundation's COVID-19 prevention efforts. Its last tweet was on Oct. 10.</p><p>   \"It's crucial for Chinese entrepreneurs to be low-key. Don't speak casually. And don't say anything wrong,\" Edward Chen, chairman of Shanghai-based fintech consultancy China Rising Group, said in a social media video post.</p><p>   \"Prudence in words and action is the No. 1 priority so that Chinese entrepreneurs can live longer.\"</p><p>   ($1 = 6.5522 Chinese yuan renminbi)</p><p>    &lt;^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ China fines Alibaba record $2.75 bln for anti-monopoly violations       TIMELINE-Events leading up to China's fine on Alibaba   </p><p>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^&gt;</p><p>(Reporting by Tony Munroe in Beijing, Brenda Goh, Samuel Shen and Josh Horwitz in Shanghai, Kane Wu in Hong Kong and Ross Kerber in Boston; Editing by Kim Coghill)</p><p>((tony.munroe@thomsonreuters.com; +86 10 6627 1288; Reuters Messaging: tony.munroe.thomsonreuters.com@reuters.net))</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>NEWSMAKER-Record penalty for Ma's Alibaba marks tumultuous stretch for its founder</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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But being provocative to the government has its limits,\" said Duncan Clark, chairman of Beijing-based tech consultancy BDA China and author of a book on Alibaba and Ma. </p><p>   Saturday's settlement, he said, \"should draw a line\" under the matter for Alibaba. ] </p><p>   \"But for Ant and Jack, there's no line drawn yet,\" he said.</p><p>   Alibaba declined to comment on Ma, and his foundation did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Sunday.</p><p>   CONSPICUOUS ABSENCE</p><p>   Ma's absence from public view became conspicuous until he surfaced for the first time in three months in late January, speaking to a group of teachers by video, which sent Alibaba shares surging. He has continued to keep an extremely low profile.  </p><p>   \"He's playing a lot of golf and improving his handicap,\" said <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a> person who knows him.</p><p>   A former English teacher, Ma co-founded Alibaba   </p><p>  in 1999 from a shared apartment in the eastern city of Hangzhou, ultimately building a colossus that spans e-commerce, financial services, cloud computing and even supermarkets, making him China's most famous businessman.</p><p>   He was also China's richest, until the clampdown knocked him back to fourth place on the Hurun Global Rich List published in March, although Ma and his family's wealth still grew last year by 22% to 360 billion yuan, according to the list.  </p><p>   As of last July, he owned 4.8% of Alibaba. </p><p>   In 2018, Ma was revealed to be a Communist Party member by its official newspaper, debunking a public assumption that he was politically unattached. </p><p>   'ARROGANCE DISCOUNT'</p><p>   Ma has often been described in Chinese media as a source of national pride and even legend. His global prominence made him an almost-diplomatic figure. Countless books have been published on Alibaba's founding and Ma's business tactics.</p><p>   Ma-isms such as \"Today is hard, tomorrow will be worse, but the day after tomorrow will be sunshine\", are common in Chinese business circles. In Hangzhou, small firms have been known to set up altars adorned with images of Ma to bring good fortune.</p><p>   But in a February snub, Ma was left off a list of Chinese entrepreneurial leaders published by state media.  </p><p>   Franklin Chu, president of Sage Capital in Rye, New York, noted that Alibaba shares are trading at a 30% discount to their 52-week high.</p><p>   \"I call this the 'Jack Ma arrogance discount,' combined with the recent round of China-bashing coming out of Washington,\" he said.</p><p>   Alibaba, he said, \"needs to work hard to re-establish an accommodative relationship with its regulatory handlers.\"</p><p>   Since stepping back from the company, Ma has sought to focus his time on philanthropy and education, including his charitable trust, the Jack Ma Foundation, and two schools in Hangzhou.</p><p>   Ma was an active conference participant, making at least 12 appearances in 2019 before the COVID-19 pandemic began. In March 2020, he opened a <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter</a> account - the platform is blocked in China - which mainly tweeted about his foundation's COVID-19 prevention efforts. Its last tweet was on Oct. 10.</p><p>   \"It's crucial for Chinese entrepreneurs to be low-key. Don't speak casually. And don't say anything wrong,\" Edward Chen, chairman of Shanghai-based fintech consultancy China Rising Group, said in a social media video post.</p><p>   \"Prudence in words and action is the No. 1 priority so that Chinese entrepreneurs can live longer.\"</p><p>   ($1 = 6.5522 Chinese yuan renminbi)</p><p>    &lt;^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ China fines Alibaba record $2.75 bln for anti-monopoly violations       TIMELINE-Events leading up to China's fine on Alibaba   </p><p>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^&gt;</p><p>(Reporting by Tony Munroe in Beijing, Brenda Goh, Samuel Shen and Josh Horwitz in Shanghai, Kane Wu in Hong Kong and Ross Kerber in Boston; Editing by Kim Coghill)</p><p>((tony.munroe@thomsonreuters.com; +86 10 6627 1288; Reuters Messaging: tony.munroe.thomsonreuters.com@reuters.net))</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"09988":"阿里巴巴-W","QNETCN":"纳斯达克中美互联网老虎指数","BABA":"阿里巴巴"},"source_url":"http://api.rkd.refinitiv.com/api/News/News.svc/REST/News_1/RetrieveStoryML_1","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2126030131","content_text":"By Tony Munroe   BEIJING, April 11 (Reuters) - Once seemingly untouchable, Alibaba founder Jack Ma has endured a tumultuous run that saw his Chinese e-commerce giant hit with a record 18 billion yuan ($2.75 billion) antitrust fine on Saturday, resolving one key uncertainty even as others persist for himself and his business empire.   The reversal of fortune for the 56-year-old Ma, who has all-but-disappeared from public view since an October speech blasting China's regulatory system, has been striking for an entrepreneur whose transformation of commerce in China - and his relentless optimism - commanded cult-like reverence.               Ma, who stepped down from Alibaba in 2019 but looms large in the corporate psyche and in the eyes of investors, had revelled in pushing boundaries with audacious statements, taking a high profile even as most Chinese peers kept their heads down.    Friends in high places, as well as pride in Alibaba's success, had protected Ma, sources have said.     That was until his Shanghai speech triggered a backlash that led to the scuppering of a blockbuster $37 billion IPO for Alibaba financial technology affiliate Ant Group, as well as a clampdown by authorities on the e-commerce giant itself and the wider \"platform economy\", which continues to reverberate.   Ant, whose rapid growth and freewheeling lending practices drew regulatory concern about financial risk, remains subject to an enforced restructuring that is expected to rein in some of its most profitable businesses and slash its valuation.   \"Entrepreneurship has to be disruptive. But being provocative to the government has its limits,\" said Duncan Clark, chairman of Beijing-based tech consultancy BDA China and author of a book on Alibaba and Ma.    Saturday's settlement, he said, \"should draw a line\" under the matter for Alibaba. ]    \"But for Ant and Jack, there's no line drawn yet,\" he said.   Alibaba declined to comment on Ma, and his foundation did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Sunday.   CONSPICUOUS ABSENCE   Ma's absence from public view became conspicuous until he surfaced for the first time in three months in late January, speaking to a group of teachers by video, which sent Alibaba shares surging. He has continued to keep an extremely low profile.     \"He's playing a lot of golf and improving his handicap,\" said one person who knows him.   A former English teacher, Ma co-founded Alibaba     in 1999 from a shared apartment in the eastern city of Hangzhou, ultimately building a colossus that spans e-commerce, financial services, cloud computing and even supermarkets, making him China's most famous businessman.   He was also China's richest, until the clampdown knocked him back to fourth place on the Hurun Global Rich List published in March, although Ma and his family's wealth still grew last year by 22% to 360 billion yuan, according to the list.     As of last July, he owned 4.8% of Alibaba.    In 2018, Ma was revealed to be a Communist Party member by its official newspaper, debunking a public assumption that he was politically unattached.    'ARROGANCE DISCOUNT'   Ma has often been described in Chinese media as a source of national pride and even legend. His global prominence made him an almost-diplomatic figure. Countless books have been published on Alibaba's founding and Ma's business tactics.   Ma-isms such as \"Today is hard, tomorrow will be worse, but the day after tomorrow will be sunshine\", are common in Chinese business circles. In Hangzhou, small firms have been known to set up altars adorned with images of Ma to bring good fortune.   But in a February snub, Ma was left off a list of Chinese entrepreneurial leaders published by state media.     Franklin Chu, president of Sage Capital in Rye, New York, noted that Alibaba shares are trading at a 30% discount to their 52-week high.   \"I call this the 'Jack Ma arrogance discount,' combined with the recent round of China-bashing coming out of Washington,\" he said.   Alibaba, he said, \"needs to work hard to re-establish an accommodative relationship with its regulatory handlers.\"   Since stepping back from the company, Ma has sought to focus his time on philanthropy and education, including his charitable trust, the Jack Ma Foundation, and two schools in Hangzhou.   Ma was an active conference participant, making at least 12 appearances in 2019 before the COVID-19 pandemic began. In March 2020, he opened a Twitter account - the platform is blocked in China - which mainly tweeted about his foundation's COVID-19 prevention efforts. Its last tweet was on Oct. 10.   \"It's crucial for Chinese entrepreneurs to be low-key. Don't speak casually. And don't say anything wrong,\" Edward Chen, chairman of Shanghai-based fintech consultancy China Rising Group, said in a social media video post.   \"Prudence in words and action is the No. 1 priority so that Chinese entrepreneurs can live longer.\"   ($1 = 6.5522 Chinese yuan renminbi)    <^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ China fines Alibaba record $2.75 bln for anti-monopoly violations       TIMELINE-Events leading up to China's fine on Alibaba      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^>(Reporting by Tony Munroe in Beijing, Brenda Goh, Samuel Shen and Josh Horwitz in Shanghai, Kane Wu in Hong Kong and Ross Kerber in Boston; Editing by Kim Coghill)((tony.munroe@thomsonreuters.com; +86 10 6627 1288; Reuters Messaging: tony.munroe.thomsonreuters.com@reuters.net))","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":450,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":876000830,"gmtCreate":1637239826251,"gmtModify":1637240163233,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">$Alibaba(BABA)$</a>Conviction! &nbsp;Everyone can copy Munger but can u copy his conviction?Frankly, the latest financial report is ok.. but if u are worried, or losing your sleep, should U&nbsp;exit?For me, I am staying put. &nbsp;I like the long term potenrial! And i think it will have a good chance to go upnext year onwards&nbsp;","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">$Alibaba(BABA)$</a>Conviction! &nbsp;Everyone can copy Munger but can u copy his conviction?Frankly, the latest financial report is ok.. but if u are worried, or losing your sleep, should U&nbsp;exit?For me, I am staying put. &nbsp;I like the long term potenrial! And i think it will have a good chance to go upnext year onwards&nbsp;","text":"$Alibaba(BABA)$Conviction! Everyone can copy Munger but can u copy his conviction?Frankly, the latest financial report is ok.. but if u are worried, or losing your sleep, should U exit?For me, I am staying put. I like the long term potenrial! And i think it will have a good chance to go upnext year onwards","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/876000830","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1530,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":185422105,"gmtCreate":1623668636207,"gmtModify":1631890535376,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"My take : Alibaba will be the King!","listText":"My take : Alibaba will be the King!","text":"My take : Alibaba will be the King!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/185422105","repostId":"2143857817","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":660,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":116734847,"gmtCreate":1622818572489,"gmtModify":1631890535384,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Huge&nbsp;growth potential, low PE valuation, wide diversified offering within the group.. &nbsp;there is only a few of the same! Go Baba go!","listText":"Huge&nbsp;growth potential, low PE valuation, wide diversified offering within the group.. &nbsp;there is only a few of the same! Go Baba go!","text":"Huge growth potential, low PE valuation, wide diversified offering within the group.. there is only a few of the same! Go Baba go!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/116734847","repostId":"1154529120","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1154529120","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1622810459,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1154529120?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-04 20:40","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Can Alibaba Stock Hit $500? If You Got Time, Yes","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1154529120","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Alibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.I believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing the latter.In the long run, BABA has a chance of delivering strong gains for those that buy at the current, quite low, valuation.Since its IPO, Alibaba has seen strong share price gains, but it should also be mentioned that shares did peek in H2 2020, and have declined considerably since then:. Alibaba Group'","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>Alibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.</li>\n <li>I believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing the latter.</li>\n <li>In the long run, BABA has a chance of delivering strong gains for those that buy at the current, quite low, valuation.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/567d19950e6c8789ce2192b4503f0fa5\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"653\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Photo by efetova/iStock via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Article Thesis</b></p>\n<p>Alibaba Group (BABA) is a leading global high-tech name that continues to generate attractive growth and that offers investors exposure to the high-growth Chinese consumer market. At the same time, through a range of ventures, Alibaba is also active in additional industries, such as cloud computing. Shares have declined considerably over the last couple of months, but I believe that the long-term potential is significant. I would not be surprised to see shares rise towards $500, although that will not happen in the near term.</p>\n<p><b>BABA Stock Price</b></p>\n<p>Since its IPO, Alibaba has seen strong share price gains, but it should also be mentioned that shares did peek in H2 2020, and have declined considerably since then:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8079eeb5384ea003fb3725d3cd1e877f\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"403\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p>\n<p>Shares are now basically where they were one year ago, as the gains during summer 2020 have been erased when Ant Financial's IPO plans were stopped. The flat share price performance over the last year is somewhat surprising, though, as Alibaba continued to generate strong results in that time frame. During the last quarter, for example, Alibaba showcased a&nbsp;revenue growth rate of 64%, while revenue growth during the previous quarter was also very strong, at around 50%. This is not the only positive in Alibaba's earnings releases, however. The company also managed to grow its user count by 32 million during the most recent quarter alone, which equates to an annualized user growth rate of around 20%. This bodes well for future quarters, as more users on Alibaba's platform should translate into higher revenues. On top of that, the strong user growth shows that there is still growing demand for the shopping services that Alibaba's platforms offer -- the market is not saturated at all. Alibaba also managed to grow its EBITDA by 25% year over year, which is an attractive growth pace as well, and which was achieved despite growing investments in what management calls key growth areas. Income from operations, meanwhile, grew at an even faster pace, thanks to some operating leverage, rising by 48% year over year when adjusted for the fine that Alibaba had to pay during Q1. It makes, I believe, sense to back out this one-time item to get a clearer picture about Alibaba's underlying, \"core\" profitability during an average quarter.</p>\n<p>Alibaba Group's weak share price performance, relative to the broad market and other tech names, is thus not the result of weak operating performance, but rather a result of multiple compression, driven by weak investor sentiment due to China exposure and&nbsp;fears about regulation.</p>\n<p>At its current price of $220, BABA trades at a quite large discount compared to the current consensus analyst price target of $298. If Alibaba were to hit that, shares would gain 35%. Analyst price targets are usually issued with a 1-year time frame, thus, if the analyst community is correct, Alibaba could be a great investment. From a valuation standpoint, this price target doesn't seem outrageous at all, as $298 would equate to around 29x this year's expected net profits, or 23x next year's net earnings. The latter is likely the more telling one when we talk about a price target for summer 2022, i.e. 1 year from now.</p>\n<p><b>Can Alibaba Stock Hit $500?</b></p>\n<p>The answer to that question, I think, depends on your time frame. If you are looking at a 12-month window, then Alibaba will most likely not be able to hit $500. The ~$300 price target seems achievable, although that is, of course, also not guaranteed. If, however, we take a longer-term view, then $500 seems like a share price that BABA could hit eventually. Let's look at a couple of examples.</p>\n<p><i>- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $20 at some point and traded at an earnings multiple of 25, then shares would trade at $500.</i></p>\n<p><i>- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $25 and traded at a 20x earnings multiple, then shares would trade at $500.</i></p>\n<p><i>- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $17 and traded at 29x its net profits, then shares would trade at (marginally below) $500.</i></p>\n<p>We see that there are many scenarios that could get us to a $500 share price for BABA, some of them more likely than others. Of course, the higher your target multiple, the lower the earnings that would be required. This, in turn, means that the price target can be hit sooner, as less cumulative earnings growth would be required. When we take a look at how Alibaba was valued in the past, we see that the longer-term median earnings multiples for BABA look like this:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dd2d42b7094deb394266d6410287c2e4\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"436\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p>\n<p>At 30-40x net earnings, Alibaba was clearly trading at a massive premium relative to how shares are valued today (around 20x this year's earnings). I think that the current valuation is too low, but on the other hand, I do not expect Alibaba to trade at 30, 35, or even 40x net profits in coming years. Due to the growing scale of Alibaba, which makes it a little harder to maintain its excellent growth in coming years, shares will likely trade at a lower valuation in coming years, compared to how they were valued in the past.</p>\n<p>I still think that shares do have some valuation expansion potential from the current earnings multiple of around 21, thus let's assume that shares trade at 23x net profits in the future. This would still represent a massive discount versus the historic valuation, and also a substantial discount compared to how US-based high-tech mega-caps are valued -- Amazon (AMZN), for example, trades at 59x this year's earnings.</p>\n<p>If we want to get to a $500 share price for BABA using a 23x earnings multiple, then we get to earnings per share of $21.70 that Alibaba must generate. When could this be the case? In the following chart, we see EPS estimates for the current year, next year (CY 2022), and CY 2023:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6fcf78e0b071eff9753afbdcd96f751c\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"436\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p>\n<p>If analysts are right, Alibaba will not get to earn $22 a share through 2023, and I think that is realistic. I do not see earnings per share rising by 100%+ between this year and 2023, either. From 2023, it would take another 43% increase in Alibaba's earnings per share to get to $21.70, which is our \"target EPS\" for a $500 share price.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7b4c351b4b5eb3328191ccaa9a3b776c\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"403\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p>\n<p>Analysts are currently forecasting long-term EPS growth of around 27%, which would mean it would take Alibaba about 1.5 years to grow its EPS from $15.20 (2023 estimate) to our target of $21.70. Even if we assume that this is too optimistic and that growth will be just 20% in 2024 and 2025, EPS of $21.70 could be hit by the end of 2025. So, in other words, if Alibaba grows a little less than what analysts are forecasting right now, Alibaba could trade at $500 by the end of 2025 -- or 4.5 years from now. Note that this scenario does not require a high earnings multiple at all -- at 23x net profits, Alibaba wouldn't be expensive, I believe.</p>\n<p>We can get even more conservative and assume that the 2023 EPS estimate is 10% too high and that EPS will grow by just 17% a year in the years beyond 2023 (versus a long-term forecast of 27% a year by the analyst community). In that case, Alibaba would hit $21.70 in earnings per share in 2026, and shares would rise to $500 over the next 5.5 years. Even in this scenario, BABA wouldn't be a bad investment at all -- a 130% share price increase from the current level over the next 5.5 years would equate to annualized returns of 16%.</p>\n<p>So, to sum this section up, I'd say<i>yes, BABA can hit $500</i>-- but it will realistically take a couple of years. By the mid-2020s, this seems like a very achievable goal to me, although there are, of course, no guarantees.</p>\n<p><b>Is Alibaba Stock A Buy Or Sell Now?</b></p>\n<p>Alibaba Group is, I believe, a strong investment. The company generates strong growth, profits from multiple long-term macro trends, such as growing consumer spending in China, growing e-commerce market share, and cloud computing. There are, however, risks to consider: Alibaba is highly China-dependent, and in case the economic growth story in China ends, Alibaba would be hurt a lot. On top of that, Alibaba could be targeted again by regulators, although I personally think that it is not in China's best interest to hurt one of its highest-growth tech companies.</p>\n<p>For those that worry about these risks, Alibaba may not be the right choice, but for those that see Alibaba as a potentially very rewarding play on Chinese consumers, BABA could be a strong pick in a diversified portfolio. I belong to the latter group and thus rate the stock a buy at current valuations, expecting significant upside over the coming years. Depending on your risk tolerance and how you weigh the opportunities and threats of investing in Chinese companies, you may decide differently, however.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Can Alibaba Stock Hit $500? 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If You Got Time, Yes\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-04 20:40 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432992-alibaba-stock-hit-500><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nAlibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.\nI believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432992-alibaba-stock-hit-500\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BABA":"阿里巴巴","09988":"阿里巴巴-W"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432992-alibaba-stock-hit-500","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1154529120","content_text":"Summary\n\nAlibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.\nI believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing the latter.\nIn the long run, BABA has a chance of delivering strong gains for those that buy at the current, quite low, valuation.\n\nPhoto by efetova/iStock via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nAlibaba Group (BABA) is a leading global high-tech name that continues to generate attractive growth and that offers investors exposure to the high-growth Chinese consumer market. At the same time, through a range of ventures, Alibaba is also active in additional industries, such as cloud computing. Shares have declined considerably over the last couple of months, but I believe that the long-term potential is significant. I would not be surprised to see shares rise towards $500, although that will not happen in the near term.\nBABA Stock Price\nSince its IPO, Alibaba has seen strong share price gains, but it should also be mentioned that shares did peek in H2 2020, and have declined considerably since then:\nData byYCharts\nShares are now basically where they were one year ago, as the gains during summer 2020 have been erased when Ant Financial's IPO plans were stopped. The flat share price performance over the last year is somewhat surprising, though, as Alibaba continued to generate strong results in that time frame. During the last quarter, for example, Alibaba showcased a revenue growth rate of 64%, while revenue growth during the previous quarter was also very strong, at around 50%. This is not the only positive in Alibaba's earnings releases, however. The company also managed to grow its user count by 32 million during the most recent quarter alone, which equates to an annualized user growth rate of around 20%. This bodes well for future quarters, as more users on Alibaba's platform should translate into higher revenues. On top of that, the strong user growth shows that there is still growing demand for the shopping services that Alibaba's platforms offer -- the market is not saturated at all. Alibaba also managed to grow its EBITDA by 25% year over year, which is an attractive growth pace as well, and which was achieved despite growing investments in what management calls key growth areas. Income from operations, meanwhile, grew at an even faster pace, thanks to some operating leverage, rising by 48% year over year when adjusted for the fine that Alibaba had to pay during Q1. It makes, I believe, sense to back out this one-time item to get a clearer picture about Alibaba's underlying, \"core\" profitability during an average quarter.\nAlibaba Group's weak share price performance, relative to the broad market and other tech names, is thus not the result of weak operating performance, but rather a result of multiple compression, driven by weak investor sentiment due to China exposure and fears about regulation.\nAt its current price of $220, BABA trades at a quite large discount compared to the current consensus analyst price target of $298. If Alibaba were to hit that, shares would gain 35%. Analyst price targets are usually issued with a 1-year time frame, thus, if the analyst community is correct, Alibaba could be a great investment. From a valuation standpoint, this price target doesn't seem outrageous at all, as $298 would equate to around 29x this year's expected net profits, or 23x next year's net earnings. The latter is likely the more telling one when we talk about a price target for summer 2022, i.e. 1 year from now.\nCan Alibaba Stock Hit $500?\nThe answer to that question, I think, depends on your time frame. If you are looking at a 12-month window, then Alibaba will most likely not be able to hit $500. The ~$300 price target seems achievable, although that is, of course, also not guaranteed. If, however, we take a longer-term view, then $500 seems like a share price that BABA could hit eventually. Let's look at a couple of examples.\n- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $20 at some point and traded at an earnings multiple of 25, then shares would trade at $500.\n- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $25 and traded at a 20x earnings multiple, then shares would trade at $500.\n- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $17 and traded at 29x its net profits, then shares would trade at (marginally below) $500.\nWe see that there are many scenarios that could get us to a $500 share price for BABA, some of them more likely than others. Of course, the higher your target multiple, the lower the earnings that would be required. This, in turn, means that the price target can be hit sooner, as less cumulative earnings growth would be required. When we take a look at how Alibaba was valued in the past, we see that the longer-term median earnings multiples for BABA look like this:\nData byYCharts\nAt 30-40x net earnings, Alibaba was clearly trading at a massive premium relative to how shares are valued today (around 20x this year's earnings). I think that the current valuation is too low, but on the other hand, I do not expect Alibaba to trade at 30, 35, or even 40x net profits in coming years. Due to the growing scale of Alibaba, which makes it a little harder to maintain its excellent growth in coming years, shares will likely trade at a lower valuation in coming years, compared to how they were valued in the past.\nI still think that shares do have some valuation expansion potential from the current earnings multiple of around 21, thus let's assume that shares trade at 23x net profits in the future. This would still represent a massive discount versus the historic valuation, and also a substantial discount compared to how US-based high-tech mega-caps are valued -- Amazon (AMZN), for example, trades at 59x this year's earnings.\nIf we want to get to a $500 share price for BABA using a 23x earnings multiple, then we get to earnings per share of $21.70 that Alibaba must generate. When could this be the case? In the following chart, we see EPS estimates for the current year, next year (CY 2022), and CY 2023:\nData byYCharts\nIf analysts are right, Alibaba will not get to earn $22 a share through 2023, and I think that is realistic. I do not see earnings per share rising by 100%+ between this year and 2023, either. From 2023, it would take another 43% increase in Alibaba's earnings per share to get to $21.70, which is our \"target EPS\" for a $500 share price.\nData byYCharts\nAnalysts are currently forecasting long-term EPS growth of around 27%, which would mean it would take Alibaba about 1.5 years to grow its EPS from $15.20 (2023 estimate) to our target of $21.70. Even if we assume that this is too optimistic and that growth will be just 20% in 2024 and 2025, EPS of $21.70 could be hit by the end of 2025. So, in other words, if Alibaba grows a little less than what analysts are forecasting right now, Alibaba could trade at $500 by the end of 2025 -- or 4.5 years from now. Note that this scenario does not require a high earnings multiple at all -- at 23x net profits, Alibaba wouldn't be expensive, I believe.\nWe can get even more conservative and assume that the 2023 EPS estimate is 10% too high and that EPS will grow by just 17% a year in the years beyond 2023 (versus a long-term forecast of 27% a year by the analyst community). In that case, Alibaba would hit $21.70 in earnings per share in 2026, and shares would rise to $500 over the next 5.5 years. Even in this scenario, BABA wouldn't be a bad investment at all -- a 130% share price increase from the current level over the next 5.5 years would equate to annualized returns of 16%.\nSo, to sum this section up, I'd sayyes, BABA can hit $500-- but it will realistically take a couple of years. By the mid-2020s, this seems like a very achievable goal to me, although there are, of course, no guarantees.\nIs Alibaba Stock A Buy Or Sell Now?\nAlibaba Group is, I believe, a strong investment. The company generates strong growth, profits from multiple long-term macro trends, such as growing consumer spending in China, growing e-commerce market share, and cloud computing. There are, however, risks to consider: Alibaba is highly China-dependent, and in case the economic growth story in China ends, Alibaba would be hurt a lot. On top of that, Alibaba could be targeted again by regulators, although I personally think that it is not in China's best interest to hurt one of its highest-growth tech companies.\nFor those that worry about these risks, Alibaba may not be the right choice, but for those that see Alibaba as a potentially very rewarding play on Chinese consumers, BABA could be a strong pick in a diversified portfolio. I belong to the latter group and thus rate the stock a buy at current valuations, expecting significant upside over the coming years. Depending on your risk tolerance and how you weigh the opportunities and threats of investing in Chinese companies, you may decide differently, however.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":320,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":190719256,"gmtCreate":1620652216875,"gmtModify":1631890535406,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Looking forward to the full year Alibaba&nbsp;results coming outsoon!","listText":"Looking forward to the full year Alibaba&nbsp;results coming outsoon!","text":"Looking forward to the full year Alibaba results coming outsoon!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/190719256","repostId":"2134341786","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":590,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":118370618,"gmtCreate":1622720987334,"gmtModify":1631890535389,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Good start!","listText":"Good start!","text":"Good start!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/118370618","repostId":"1125253857","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":349,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":198790510,"gmtCreate":1620987897730,"gmtModify":1631890535397,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"So now we know who this the net seller for Alibabayesterday... all the best to Ark!","listText":"So now we know who this the net seller for Alibabayesterday... all the best to Ark!","text":"So now we know who this the net seller for Alibabayesterday... all the best to Ark!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/198790510","repostId":"1112285344","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":273,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":609608028,"gmtCreate":1638273353233,"gmtModify":1638273353303,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">$Alibaba(BABA)$</a>How low can u go….. &nbsp;:(","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">$Alibaba(BABA)$</a>How low can u go….. &nbsp;:(","text":"$Alibaba(BABA)$How low can u go….. :(","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/609608028","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":828,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":829269137,"gmtCreate":1633515394458,"gmtModify":1633515394659,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Nice! Best way to endorse we are on the right stock!","listText":"Nice! Best way to endorse we are on the right stock!","text":"Nice! Best way to endorse we are on the right stock!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/829269137","repostId":"1114084743","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1114084743","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1633499616,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1114084743?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-10-06 13:53","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Charlie Munger nearly doubled down on Alibaba as share prices dropped","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1114084743","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Charlie Munger's Daily Journal Corporationhas increased its Alibabashares by 82% since July as the stock's price fell nearly 50%, according to the Daily Journal's13-F filing for Q3.The Daily Journal purchased 136,740 BABA shares bringing its total to 302,060 shares. Due to the drop in price, the firm's position only increased to $45M from $37M.The firm's largest stakes are in Bank of Americaand Wells Fargo, with the Daily Journal owning $98M and $73M positions respectively. Munger's other picks ","content":"<p>Charlie Munger's Daily Journal Corporation(NASDAQ:DJCO)has increased its Alibaba(NYSE:BABA)shares by 82% since July as the stock's price fell nearly 50%, according to the Daily Journal's13-F filing for Q3.</p>\n<p>The Daily Journal purchased 136,740 BABA shares bringing its total to 302,060 shares. Due to the drop in price, the firm's position only increased to $45M from $37M.</p>\n<p>The firm's largest stakes are in Bank of America(NYSE:BAC)and Wells Fargo(NYSE:WFC), with the Daily Journal owning $98M and $73M positions respectively. Munger's other picks include U.S. Bancorp(NYSE:USB)and and Posco(NYSE:PKX).</p>\n<p>Raymond James cut its rating on Alibaba earlier this month citing growth headwinds but stillgives the stock a grade of Outperform.</p>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Charlie Munger nearly doubled down on Alibaba as share prices dropped</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nCharlie Munger nearly doubled down on Alibaba as share prices dropped\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-10-06 13:53 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/news/3749214-charlie-munger-nearly-doubled-down-on-alibaba-as-share-prices-dropped><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Charlie Munger's Daily Journal Corporation(NASDAQ:DJCO)has increased its Alibaba(NYSE:BABA)shares by 82% since July as the stock's price fell nearly 50%, according to the Daily Journal's13-F filing ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/news/3749214-charlie-munger-nearly-doubled-down-on-alibaba-as-share-prices-dropped\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"09988":"阿里巴巴-W","BABA":"阿里巴巴"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/news/3749214-charlie-munger-nearly-doubled-down-on-alibaba-as-share-prices-dropped","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1114084743","content_text":"Charlie Munger's Daily Journal Corporation(NASDAQ:DJCO)has increased its Alibaba(NYSE:BABA)shares by 82% since July as the stock's price fell nearly 50%, according to the Daily Journal's13-F filing for Q3.\nThe Daily Journal purchased 136,740 BABA shares bringing its total to 302,060 shares. Due to the drop in price, the firm's position only increased to $45M from $37M.\nThe firm's largest stakes are in Bank of America(NYSE:BAC)and Wells Fargo(NYSE:WFC), with the Daily Journal owning $98M and $73M positions respectively. Munger's other picks include U.S. Bancorp(NYSE:USB)and and Posco(NYSE:PKX).\nRaymond James cut its rating on Alibaba earlier this month citing growth headwinds but stillgives the stock a grade of Outperform.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":735,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":864296090,"gmtCreate":1633102483359,"gmtModify":1633102483576,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">$Alibaba(BABA)$</a>I just took a look at Alibaba PE…17.3+…. Wanted to laugh… this price is ridiculouslycheap!","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">$Alibaba(BABA)$</a>I just took a look at Alibaba PE…17.3+…. Wanted to laugh… this price is ridiculouslycheap!","text":"$Alibaba(BABA)$I just took a look at Alibaba PE…17.3+…. Wanted to laugh… this price is ridiculouslycheap!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/864296090","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1204,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":118807771,"gmtCreate":1622726956793,"gmtModify":1631890535386,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Too the moon!","listText":"Too the moon!","text":"Too the moon!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/118807771","repostId":"1180328270","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":209,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":197104834,"gmtCreate":1621432081228,"gmtModify":1631890535394,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"I agree","listText":"I agree","text":"I agree","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/197104834","repostId":"1174089278","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1174089278","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1621430200,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1174089278?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-05-19 21:16","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Regulatory Issues Aside, Don’t Ignore Alibaba’s Hidden Potential","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1174089278","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"The recent slump in BABA stock is a good buying opportunity\nAlibaba(NYSE:BABA) has had a rough month","content":"<p>The recent slump in BABA stock is a good buying opportunity</p>\n<p><b>Alibaba</b>(NYSE:<b><u>BABA</u></b>) has had a rough month. The company&nbsp;recently announced&nbsp;that its “loss from operations was 7.66 billion yuan” as a result of its recent fine. Because of negative earnings, BABA stock broke through the important support level of $220. Now BABA stock has lost almost a third of its value from its November highs.</p>\n<p>The main cause behind this massive decline is that Chinese regulators have begun exerting regulatory pressure on the country’s large tech firms. Alibaba’s regulatory issues began when the $34.5 billion initial public offering (IPO) of its financial technology affiliate,<b>Ant Group</b>,was suspended. The reason cited was “changes in financial technology regulatory environment.” Chinese regulators also hit the company with an&nbsp;$2.8 billion fine&nbsp;due to anti-competitive practices.</p>\n<p>Despite these developments, though, I believe though that Alibaba will eventually straighten out its regulatory issues. At these prices, BABA offers a compelling value.</p>\n<p><b>BABA Stock: Cloud Will Drive Growth for Years to Come</b></p>\n<p>Alibaba is best known for its dominant ecommerce business. However, the company has a slew of other businesses, ranging from entertainment to digital payments. I believe, however, the company’s most promising venture is its cloud services. Similar to how Amazon Web Services (AWS) makes up a significant portion of&nbsp;<b>Amazon’s</b>(NASDAQ:<b><u>AMZN</u></b>) value, Alibaba Cloud will become a massive growth driver for BABA stock in the years to come.</p>\n<p>For starters, Alibaba Cloud recently&nbsp;became profitable&nbsp;after 11 years of operating history, showing positive adjusted EBITA (earnings before interest, taxes and amortization). This achievement was due to its “realization of economies of scale.” A boost also came from Covid-19 this past year, which saw a lot of firms adopting cloud technology. Additionally, the company noted that digitalization demand remains robust in post-pandemic China, especially in the restaurant and service industries.</p>\n<p>That said, Alibaba’s cloud services are still a small contributor to the company’s overall revenue. As of the latest quarter, cloud services only accounted for about 9% of BABA’s total revenue. Worldwide, Alibaba Cloud is also&nbsp;trailing behind leaders&nbsp;Amazon and&nbsp;<b>Microsoft</b>&nbsp;(NASDAQ:<b><u>MSFT</u></b>) with a 9.1% market share.</p>\n<p>For comparison, Amazon and Microsoft have 45% and 17.9% of the cloud market, respectively. However, this could change in the near future. In the latest quarter, Alibaba’s cloud-computing division grew its revenues by a massive 37% year-over-year (YOY).</p>\n<p><b>China’s Cloud Market Is Booming</b></p>\n<p>Part of the reason I’m so bullish on BABA stock and Alibaba Cloud is because China’s cloud market is on the rise.</p>\n<p>China’s cloud industry is still in its infancy. In fact, despite being the world’s second largest cloud-computing market, China’s cloud industry is&nbsp;still a fraction&nbsp;of its U.S. counterpart. However, this means that Alibaba has plenty of room to grow, given China’s much larger population and relative importance to the world economy.</p>\n<p>Apart from the aforementioned tailwind of digitalization, the Chinese government has also made cloud computing one of its&nbsp;strategic priorities. Cloud services expenditures grew 62% in Q4 2020, from $2.2 billion in the same period in 2019 up to $5.8 billion recently. This was the “highest ever recorded” growth for the industry according to Canalys, indicating “robust” underlying demand.</p>\n<p><b>Investor Takeaway on BABA Stock</b></p>\n<p>Apart from the promise of Alibaba’s cloud business, though, its traditional ecommerce business has also been performing exceptionally well, despite the fierce competition in China’s market. To be clear, Alibaba’s commerce business brought in well over $25 billion as the continued effects of the novel coronavirus pandemic force shoppers online.</p>\n<p>Overall, this company has done superb. Alibaba beat Wall Street revenue estimates handily for the quarter, with a 64% increase YOY. Plus, while the company did report a loss from operations this quarter, the bulk of that is due to the hefty government fine. Without the fine, CEO Daniel Zhang has said that it would have reported a massive 48% YOY increase in operating income. In other words, take away the regulatory issues and Alibaba has had pretty solid results.</p>\n<p>This in mind, it is in my view that regulatory issues with tech firms eventually tend to work themselves out. Look at the stock performances of&nbsp;<b>Alphabet</b>&nbsp;(NASDAQ:<b><u>GOOG</u></b>) and&nbsp;<b>Facebook</b>&nbsp;(NASDAQ:<b><u>FB</u></b>), which have recently faced similar issues.\\</p>\n<p>BABA stock is currently trading at a trailing 12-month price-earnings (P/E) ratio of 21.37. This is extremely cheap when considering it is still growing at a fairly rapid pace. As such, I believe investors should consider purchasing shares at these prices.</p>","source":"lsy1606302653667","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Regulatory Issues Aside, Don’t Ignore Alibaba’s Hidden Potential</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nRegulatory Issues Aside, Don’t Ignore Alibaba’s Hidden Potential\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-05-19 21:16 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/2021/05/baba-stock-regulatory-issues-aside-dont-ignore-hidden-potential/><strong>InvestorPlace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>The recent slump in BABA stock is a good buying opportunity\nAlibaba(NYSE:BABA) has had a rough month. The company recently announced that its “loss from operations was 7.66 billion yuan” as a result ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2021/05/baba-stock-regulatory-issues-aside-dont-ignore-hidden-potential/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BABA":"阿里巴巴","09988":"阿里巴巴-W"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2021/05/baba-stock-regulatory-issues-aside-dont-ignore-hidden-potential/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1174089278","content_text":"The recent slump in BABA stock is a good buying opportunity\nAlibaba(NYSE:BABA) has had a rough month. The company recently announced that its “loss from operations was 7.66 billion yuan” as a result of its recent fine. Because of negative earnings, BABA stock broke through the important support level of $220. Now BABA stock has lost almost a third of its value from its November highs.\nThe main cause behind this massive decline is that Chinese regulators have begun exerting regulatory pressure on the country’s large tech firms. Alibaba’s regulatory issues began when the $34.5 billion initial public offering (IPO) of its financial technology affiliate,Ant Group,was suspended. The reason cited was “changes in financial technology regulatory environment.” Chinese regulators also hit the company with an $2.8 billion fine due to anti-competitive practices.\nDespite these developments, though, I believe though that Alibaba will eventually straighten out its regulatory issues. At these prices, BABA offers a compelling value.\nBABA Stock: Cloud Will Drive Growth for Years to Come\nAlibaba is best known for its dominant ecommerce business. However, the company has a slew of other businesses, ranging from entertainment to digital payments. I believe, however, the company’s most promising venture is its cloud services. Similar to how Amazon Web Services (AWS) makes up a significant portion of Amazon’s(NASDAQ:AMZN) value, Alibaba Cloud will become a massive growth driver for BABA stock in the years to come.\nFor starters, Alibaba Cloud recently became profitable after 11 years of operating history, showing positive adjusted EBITA (earnings before interest, taxes and amortization). This achievement was due to its “realization of economies of scale.” A boost also came from Covid-19 this past year, which saw a lot of firms adopting cloud technology. Additionally, the company noted that digitalization demand remains robust in post-pandemic China, especially in the restaurant and service industries.\nThat said, Alibaba’s cloud services are still a small contributor to the company’s overall revenue. As of the latest quarter, cloud services only accounted for about 9% of BABA’s total revenue. Worldwide, Alibaba Cloud is also trailing behind leaders Amazon and Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT) with a 9.1% market share.\nFor comparison, Amazon and Microsoft have 45% and 17.9% of the cloud market, respectively. However, this could change in the near future. In the latest quarter, Alibaba’s cloud-computing division grew its revenues by a massive 37% year-over-year (YOY).\nChina’s Cloud Market Is Booming\nPart of the reason I’m so bullish on BABA stock and Alibaba Cloud is because China’s cloud market is on the rise.\nChina’s cloud industry is still in its infancy. In fact, despite being the world’s second largest cloud-computing market, China’s cloud industry is still a fraction of its U.S. counterpart. However, this means that Alibaba has plenty of room to grow, given China’s much larger population and relative importance to the world economy.\nApart from the aforementioned tailwind of digitalization, the Chinese government has also made cloud computing one of its strategic priorities. Cloud services expenditures grew 62% in Q4 2020, from $2.2 billion in the same period in 2019 up to $5.8 billion recently. This was the “highest ever recorded” growth for the industry according to Canalys, indicating “robust” underlying demand.\nInvestor Takeaway on BABA Stock\nApart from the promise of Alibaba’s cloud business, though, its traditional ecommerce business has also been performing exceptionally well, despite the fierce competition in China’s market. To be clear, Alibaba’s commerce business brought in well over $25 billion as the continued effects of the novel coronavirus pandemic force shoppers online.\nOverall, this company has done superb. Alibaba beat Wall Street revenue estimates handily for the quarter, with a 64% increase YOY. Plus, while the company did report a loss from operations this quarter, the bulk of that is due to the hefty government fine. Without the fine, CEO Daniel Zhang has said that it would have reported a massive 48% YOY increase in operating income. In other words, take away the regulatory issues and Alibaba has had pretty solid results.\nThis in mind, it is in my view that regulatory issues with tech firms eventually tend to work themselves out. Look at the stock performances of Alphabet (NASDAQ:GOOG) and Facebook (NASDAQ:FB), which have recently faced similar issues.\\\nBABA stock is currently trading at a trailing 12-month price-earnings (P/E) ratio of 21.37. This is extremely cheap when considering it is still growing at a fairly rapid pace. As such, I believe investors should consider purchasing shares at these prices.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":135,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":105690302,"gmtCreate":1620294924806,"gmtModify":1631884327995,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Fingers crossed!! &nbsp;Hope that will signal the beginning on a great news!","listText":"Fingers crossed!! &nbsp;Hope that will signal the beginning on a great news!","text":"Fingers crossed!! Hope that will signal the beginning on a great news!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/105690302","repostId":"2133602520","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":288,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":864295568,"gmtCreate":1633102838922,"gmtModify":1633102839104,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"From current price, 144 to move up to 240, , that isa 66% upside… that is considered as not a strong buy??? Laughter!!","listText":"From current price, 144 to move up to 240, , that isa 66% upside… that is considered as not a strong buy??? Laughter!!","text":"From current price, 144 to move up to 240, , that isa 66% upside… that is considered as not a strong buy??? Laughter!!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/864295568","repostId":"2172396895","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1208,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":188364054,"gmtCreate":1623421950678,"gmtModify":1631890535379,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"I agree. BABA&nbsp;is more compelling buy compared to JD and PDD","listText":"I agree. BABA&nbsp;is more compelling buy compared to JD and PDD","text":"I agree. BABA is more compelling buy compared to JD and PDD","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/188364054","repostId":"1195128984","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":269,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":119221510,"gmtCreate":1622550766530,"gmtModify":1631890535391,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Waiting for the uptrend!","listText":"Waiting for the uptrend!","text":"Waiting for the uptrend!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/119221510","repostId":"1112782785","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":236,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":191799135,"gmtCreate":1620905237127,"gmtModify":1631890535400,"author":{"id":"3560739763641510","authorId":"3560739763641510","name":"Michaelw","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0b95787039f20fdac242dcaee48b11","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3560739763641510","authorIdStr":"3560739763641510"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Great&nbsp;performance!!","listText":"Great&nbsp;performance!!","text":"Great performance!!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/191799135","repostId":"1179179054","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":423,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}