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2021-12-01

终于等到了

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2021-11-22

$Altimeter Growth Corp.(AGC)$放空的，等死吧

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2021-11-17

套现啦

于缴税无关了，马斯克减持套现根本停不下来

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2021-11-11

$苹果(AAPL)$还没有买到

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2021-11-10

$台积电(TSM)$还好

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2021-11-09

$台积电(TSM)$该你来了

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2021-11-09

$PP中地美债(03001)$中国地产公司美元债

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2021-11-08

$老虎证券(TIGR)$又跌了

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2021-11-06

$台积电(TSM)$赚钱了

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2021-11-04

这篇文章不错，转发给大家看

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2021-11-04

$老虎证券(TIGR)$慢慢来

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2021-11-03

好的

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2021-11-03

$恒指ETF(02833)$越跌越买

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2021-11-02

$老虎证券(TIGR)$还好

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2021-11-01

$老虎证券(TIGR)$小试牛刀

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2021-10-30

$恒指ETF(02833)$赚钱了

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2021-09-09

$恒隆地产(00101)$我的最爱

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2021-09-04

$台积电(TSM)$转点钱了

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2021-08-27

$恒指ETF(02833)$，passive investment

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2021-08-27

投资中国的时候到了

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12:16</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>顶流马斯克卖股，围观群众纷纷找理由。当<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>股价跌了又跌，马斯克卖了更多的票，市场终于有人反应过来，这场减持可能与还债、缴税根本没关系！</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fdbe10bf7d419556f1fb7b3c8a5f705e\" tg-width=\"840\" tg-height=\"470\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>据会计师测算，马斯克目前大部分股票抛售似乎与税收无关，这可能意味着他将抛售比预期多得多的股票。</p>\n<p>马斯克拥有2300万股股票期权将于8月到期，这也是加州和美国国税局规定的（Internal Revenue 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Johnston表示：“从税收角度看，为了支付税款而行权卖股是没有意义的。”。</p>\n<p>马斯克承认，卖出普通股的税收效率，低于出售期权股。他周日在推特上写道：“细心的观察者会注意到，我的（低基数）股票出售率大大超过了我的10b（高基数）期权行使率，因此更接近税率最大化而非最小化。”。</p>\n<p>税率那么高，那为什么马斯克还要卖掉普通股呢？</p>\n<p>税务专家和特斯拉分析师表示，他仍在8月前行使这些选择权，因为让这些选择权到期，即使在交税后，也会留下数十亿美元的资金，并增加对该公司的控制权。这意味着他还有数十亿的期权要进行行权，还有数十亿的股票要出售以支付税款。</p>\n<p>会计师表示，马斯克卖出股票也不太可能用于慈善事业，因为他只会捐赠增值股，而不是先出售并缴纳资本利得税。他可能将收益用于其私人控股的航天公司SpaceX，或用于另一家私人企业。更有可能，他可能只是想在多年来股票充裕、现金匮乏、借股票价格为自己的生活方式融资后，简单的套现而已。联邦税收明年也可能增加，如果马斯克已经在考虑现金支付的话，这将产生额外的激励。</p>\n<p>不管是什么原因，马斯克最终可能会卖出，远远超过他所需要的100亿至150亿美元税收的股票。据11月6日马斯克在推特上发起的投票结果，58%的参与者认为他应该出售10%的股份，这意味着总销售额将超过200亿美元。</p>\n<p>Toby Johnston 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Service）应缴纳税款的最后期限。马斯克于11月8日开始行权，已经兑现了25亿美元的股份，并出售了其中11亿美元已行使期权以支付税款。</p>\n<p>马斯克在11月8日提交给美国证券交易委员会的文件中表示，“出售普通股的目的，仅仅是为了满足报告人与行使股票期权相关的预扣税义务”。</p>\n<p>本周一，马斯克又出售了9.3亿美元的股票，以支付他对210万股股票行使的期权税。这使得他行使的期权总额达到约46亿美元，为满足预扣税义务而出售的股票达到20亿美元。</p>\n<p>然而，上周的大部分销售是出于不同的原因。马斯克开始出售现有股票，而不是作为期权交易的一部分进行抛售。会计师们表示，马斯克用这些现有股票支付期权税是不切实际的，因为这部分股权的税率要高得多。</p>\n<p>马斯克的特斯拉期权作为普通收入征税，因为期权被视为一种奖励。联邦和加州的合并比率可能高达54%。期权的执行价为每股6.24美元，而特斯拉周一的股价超过了每股1160美元，因此他将支付更高的税款，超过200亿美元的收益部分将征收超过100亿美元税。</p>\n<p>通常情况下，高管们会选择期权到期后立即行权，让后抛售股票以支付税款，这就是所谓的“无现金”行权。由于股票立即出售，因此出售的股票没有额外的资本利得税。</p>\n<p>由于马斯克从11月9日抛售的是普通股，几乎没有或根本没有成本，因此他将支付高达13亿美元的长期资本利得税。使用这些收益支付期权税相当于支付两次税：一次是资本收益税，一次是期权税。</p>\n<p>会计、咨询和财富管理公司Moss Adams硅谷办事处负责人Toby 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