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我是鑫鑫
2020-11-04
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@投资小达人:正确的认识投资与投机的核心区别
我是鑫鑫
2020-09-24
$白银主连(SImain)$
天啊,早上一看就瀑布了
我是鑫鑫
2020-09-20
死而复生吗[微笑]
TikTok将开启Pre-IPO融资,估值近5000亿元
我是鑫鑫
2020-09-15
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抱歉,原内容已删除
我是鑫鑫
2020-09-10
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@陈达美股投资:《价值》读感:长期主义是一种人道主义
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2020-09-08
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感觉白银要反转了[呆住]
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2020-09-08
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2020-09-08
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我是鑫鑫
2020-09-07
$白银主连(SImain)$
提前满仓真不好,真的应该管住手[捂脸]
我是鑫鑫
2020-09-02
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做多吗,买一手加仓[呆住]
我是鑫鑫
2020-08-31
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是不是第二波上行开始了
我是鑫鑫
2020-08-28
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又买少了[捂脸]
我是鑫鑫
2020-08-27
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假的吧[捂脸] 又止损了
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2020-08-24
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@Ivan_甘灿荣:我们应该在什么时候抄底黄金和白银?
我是鑫鑫
2020-08-19
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感觉狂野的走势又要上演了
我是鑫鑫
2020-08-19
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假[捂脸] 先追为敬
我是鑫鑫
2020-08-12
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谁知道这是什么行情啊[捂脸] 快被玩死了
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2020-08-10
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我是鑫鑫
2020-08-06
我觉得改成接盘者更好[喷血]
美股十年长牛后,谁能成为接棒者?
我是鑫鑫
2020-08-06
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我在26的高位被套牢了,没想到竟然能回本[财迷]
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字节跳动澄清字节跳动表示,有媒体报道称,TikTok将在美国设立一个50亿美元的教育基金。 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class=\"title\">\n美股十年长牛后,谁能成为接棒者?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/99\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/c71e30d1317b4a5cb20a41998e10ac68);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Wind万得 </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2020-08-06 15:17</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>香港万得通讯社报道,国际宏观环境一直在不停演变,催生了不同时代不同投资主题,纵观历史,上世纪70年代是“黄金”十年,80年代日经指数一骑绝尘,90年代纳斯达克指数涨出了互联网泡沫,进入千禧年石油迎来一波猛涨,最近十年大家都知道是标普500指数的单人solo,那么站在现在的角度看,未来十年最佳投资主题在哪?</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2b34e62e46cbd0e3f3d459d4760d6d3c\" tg-width=\"558\" tg-height=\"392\"></p>\n<p>今年在新冠大流行的影响下,资本市场多次见证历史,国际经济环境也比以往很多时候复杂,央行不停加大对市场的干预,低利率蔓延全球,目前全球大约50%的主权国家政策利率为零甚至低于零,这在以前是不敢想象的,这迫使投资者不得不加大风险偏好来寻求资产的正收益。</p>\n<p>过去十年里,美国股票市场的复合增长率为14.2%,未来十年还能持续吗?分析了过去50年里表现最突出的资产,在下一个十年中的符合增长率只有-4.8%。如果单纯依靠历史经验,美股的黄金十年已然过去。</p>\n<p>从基本面来看,受到这次疫情冲击,美国经济数据低迷,美联储维持接近于0的低利率,短期内继续向上突破很难了。过去十年里,Wilshire 500的市值从7万亿美元上涨到31万美元,约占美国家庭总资产的40%,目前大量美国家庭财富已经被股票市场所裹挟,后续维持市场向上的弹药也不充足。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c378f3716e4b1cc361055086ba61cdba\" tg-width=\"548\" tg-height=\"311\"></p>\n<p>再从股市整体市值对经济影响来看,美股的回报率在未来十年依然没有吸引力。这不仅仅是美国市场一家,全球主要股票市场在未来十年的实际收益都有可能是为负。</p>\n<p>有投资者会想,股市不行就买债。不幸的是,在对全球主要公司债和主权债市场进行仔细分析后发现,未来十年也很难产生大回报。这意味着在全球可交易资产中,81%的资产约合180万亿美元投资会带来负收益,仅仅在商品和货币市场能实现某种形式的资本增值。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1eb3ea0799e1a5aa73406a29b9e5fd3e\" tg-width=\"448\" 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