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2020-09-02

台积电是美国企业，

对于华为，台积电已竭尽全力，敢与美国据理力争，好样的，台积电

2020-08-27

英特尔也是中国的

抱歉，原内容已删除

2020-08-27

中国的芯片公司，为啥不给华为用？还给美国生产f35芯片？

量产5nm后，明年攻克3nm！这家中国芯片巨头，市值突破2.9万亿

2020-05-17

活该

老美又对华为动刀子了

2018-10-15

$Tilray Inc.(TLRY)$ 这股有毒吧

2018-10-12

$Tilray Inc.(TLRY)$ 大麻股真恶心就是跌不下去，也没啥新闻

2018-10-12

$台积电(TSM)$ 要出财报还没人买？

2018-10-11

$蔚来汽车(NIO)$ 明天不跌我吃屎

2018-10-10

$NIO(NIO)$ 崩盘警告韭菜赶紧侧离前方高能切勿贪

2018-10-10

$NIO(NIO)$ 看到此帖赶紧出，长期持有薇来的可以看看38号车评，b站有

2018-10-08

$Tilray Inc.(TLRY)$ 前一个小时别激动，最好半夜起来看

2018-10-05

$Tilray Inc.(TLRY)$ 我等100入

2018-10-04

$Tilray Inc.(TLRY)$ 股市新闻用什么软件呀谢谢

2018-10-02

$Tilray Inc.(TLRY)$ 有人进群讨论不点击链接加入群聊【股票信息交流】：https://jq.qq.com/?_wv=1027&k=5a4znLr

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