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ly2462153
2021-07-24
$高途(GOTU)$
看我历史评论,只值8元都是高估你了[笑哭] 真的是最多只值8元
ly2462153
2021-01-28
$诺基亚(NOK)$
我踏马猜你半夜拉升,乱猜的,看中不[笑哭]
ly2462153
2021-01-28
哈哈哈,美国证券耻辱的一天,我买了60股诺基亚,参与进来吃瓜看戏[笑哭]
Robinhood已将GameStop、AMC、黑莓和诺基亚从其交易平台移除
ly2462153
2020-12-31
我在想难道你的意思是可以用比特币买?哈哈哈[笑哭]
广汽蔚来发表致歉声明
ly2462153
2020-12-23
确定不是少写了个0?[笑哭]
抱歉,原内容已删除
ly2462153
2020-12-17
$百度(BIDU)$
起飞🛫
ly2462153
2020-12-14
只值8元,如果造假只值3元
浑水公司:跟谁学就是一个骗局,股价会跌至个位数
ly2462153
2020-12-07
$跟谁学(GSX)$
看拉总演戏挺好玩的[笑哭]
ly2462153
2020-12-07
$跟谁学(GSX)$
大家注意安全,拉总刚才说他肚子有点痛,想去趟厕所[捂脸]
ly2462153
2020-12-07
$跟谁学(GSX)$
看到你又到70,我又来看你怎么跌了[开心] [笑哭]
ly2462153
2020-11-20
$跟谁学(GSX)$
这个**终于要开始现原形了,还是那句话,只值8元
ly2462153
2020-11-19
$百度(BIDU)$
当这支票开始发力的时候,会很恐怖
ly2462153
2020-11-05
$跟谁学(GSX)$
幸好做空赚了跑了,拉总果然不是一般人,如果再拉起来我又来空你,腊鸡[笑哭]
ly2462153
2020-10-28
$跟谁学(GSX)$
虽然已经做空赚钱平仓,还是想来调侃下这笑话[笑哭]
ly2462153
2020-10-21
$跟谁学(GSX)$
呃,拉稀
ly2462153
2020-10-21
$跟谁学(GSX)$
盘前这样真难想象开盘机构介入会变成啥样子[捂脸]
ly2462153
2020-10-10
$跟谁学(GSX)$
看到这种**值260多亿刀,默默加仓了百度[开心] [财迷]
ly2462153
2020-09-17
$跟谁学(GSX)$
-10%
ly2462153
2020-09-10
$跟谁学(GSX)$
是时候了,今天晚上,保守估计-8%
ly2462153
2020-09-02
$跟谁学(GSX)$
感觉今天开盘机构会直接腰斩他[笑哭] 现在还不跑的真是傻瓜,只值8元一直发,提醒大家啊
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tg-height=\"326\"></p><p>中国线上教育市场今年的一个新势头是,一些新兴企业正在试图以价格战撬开市场大门。诚然,2020年肯定是一个线上教育的大年,但是具体分析,跟谁学现在其实已经摘掉了所有最低的果子,而到了明年,伴随全球疫情退却,他们想要达成现在这样的增长预期其实已经很难了。</p><p>估值方面,该股价格目前相当于过去一年销售额的18.8倍,2020年全年营收普遍预期的14.3倍,2021年普遍预期的8.1倍。无论怎么看,这增长溢价其实都已经贵过了大多数公司。跟谁学的关键之一就在于,虽然该公司是围绕一个科技平台建立起来的,但是他们需要给老师发工资,定期展开宣传活动来推动用户群增长,这也就意味着,它实质上带有鲜明的劳动力密集型和资本密集型色彩。可是,跟谁学的估值却已经可以和那些纯粹科技公司,或者是软件app公司等量齐观了,尽管后者显然更容易实现规模效应。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/14bf13ffc922f55d858586c6c304ed65\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"368\"></p><p>现在,中国线上教育市场的大玩家远不止跟谁学一家,比如最大上市公司好未市值420亿美元,远超跟谁学的150亿美元。虽然好未来今年的增速没有跟谁学这么火爆,但是该公司已经实现了盈利和正向自由现金流。还有产品和服务更广泛的新东方,也实现了盈利。此外,还有新东方在线、海亮教育等也同样是疫情的重大获益者。虽然这些玩家都专注于市场的不同领域,业务模式也不尽相同,但是中国市场竞争激烈的局面无可改变,而这就可能会转化为价格压力,让跟谁学未来增长受限。</p><p><b>最终结论</b></p><p>当前价位意味着市场对于跟谁学的增长前景判断过于乐观,而实际上下跌风险巨大。具体而言,该公司和股票的麻烦在于:</p><p>——虽然销售额和入学增长势头旺盛,但是运营亏损却在扩大。</p><p>——为支持增长所负担的成本压力巨大,包括教师薪酬、营销支出等,这将严重限制盈利潜力。</p><p>——虽然今年的表现在疫情推动下呈现强势,但是到2021年,伴随疫情结束,局面就可能反转过来。</p><p>——强势增长之下,学生数以百万计,教师也成千上万,这就使得品控和消费者满意度的管理变得极为困难。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/becc04985ddbb33452465c5ca9a971c4\" tg-width=\"1024\" tg-height=\"683\"></p><p>——中国线上教育市场竞争极端激烈,若干家大玩家争夺相同的目标客户群,这就意味着价格将背负长期压力。</p><p>——在本年度现金流为负数,且2022年预计将继续亏损的情况下,跟谁学股票的市销率却很高,意味着价格已经达到了极端水平。</p><p>很可能,从下一个季度往后,市场将被迫不断调降跟谁学的各种长期增长预期,给股价造成越来越大的表现低于水准的压力。一旦他们财务前景恶化的势头变得明显,市场情绪也将急转直下,使得股价遭受到新一轮的打压。</p><p>如果跟谁学不希望看到这一幕发生,那么他们就必须能够继续维持当下高企的成长动能,同时还让市场看到运营利润改善的迹象。在这方面,投资者可以关注毛利润率和运营支出等指标,以确定是否能够找到未来盈利潜力的积极信号。</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>浑水公司:跟谁学就是一个骗局,股价会跌至个位数</title>\n<style 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href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GSX\">跟谁学</a>就是一个骗局。一旦审计失败,股价就会跌至个位数</b>。</p><p>跟谁学盘前下挫,现跌1.75%。</p><p>今年以来,跟谁学受到空头机构的“密集轰炸”,包括灰熊研究、香橼资本、天蝎创投,乃至大名鼎鼎的浑水都先后发布做空报告,总数达十余份,指责跟谁学存在财务表现数据造假,注册用户造假,流量刷单,乃至证券欺诈等问题,一时间跟谁学被坊间称作是被做空最多的中概股。虽然这些报告确实造成了跟谁学行情的剧烈波动,但是回望全年,该股依然涨幅惊人。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7ebbfbd674b67aacd6004c666c704886\" tg-width=\"840\" tg-height=\"470\"></p><p><b>复盘第三季度财报</b></p><p>11月20日,跟谁学发布第三季度财报称,公司当季通用会计准则(GAAP)每股ADR(美国存托凭证)亏损0.57美元,净营收19.66亿元人民币,约合2.9亿美元,同比增长253%,延续了第二季度的强势。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2e01126a6408e1b614176a925d043ec0\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"576\"></p><p>截至季度结束,跟谁学付费入学学生为125.6万人,同比增长134%,颇为强劲。在过去一年时间当中,各种疫情相关的趋势加速了线上学习需求的增长速度,使得行业迅速迎来了繁荣。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/74a6be98605265e990c4d5da6cf6a6df\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"368\"></p><p>然而,这种迅猛的增长也让跟谁学遇到了强劲的挑战,为了持续提供和过去同等品质的教育服务,他们的相关支出,从师资到辅导材料都大幅度增长。唯一可以庆幸的是,这些支出220%的同比增长速度还低于净所得的增速,使得毛利润率能够实现从71.9%到74.4%的同比增长。</p><p>更加让人担心的是运营支出同比增幅达到了496%,远超过营收,导致运营亏损巨大。管理层宣称,这与销售支出,比如营销费用和销售团队的报酬增长有关。可是,换个视角来看,这其实是在竞争高度激烈的中国线上教育市场上,客户获取成本在增高。正是因为同样的原因,他们的研发支出也攀升了286%。当季调整后运营亏损为0.21亿元人民币,约合1.46亿美元,超过前一季度的1.07亿元人民币,而去年第三季度,他们一度还实现了700万人民币的盈利。</p><p><b>企业财测与市场预期</b></p><p>目前,跟谁学管理层的第四季度营收目标是在20.76亿至21.16亿元人民币之间,意味着将比2019年同期增长122%至126%。考虑到前九个月的表现,以及当下的货币汇率,华尔街认为该公司全年营收将为10.1亿美元的普遍预期与公司自己的财测是大致相符的。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b1e48eddcb2ffd3f6cefa96c7bbff66d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"306\"></p><p>展望来年,市场目前预计该公司营收2021年将增长77%,之后的2022年增长49%。这一切有一个重大的前提,这就是今年入学的新生不流失,同时明年他们还将获取新的客户。在每股盈利方面,跟谁学明年预计将继续亏损,只是具体幅度从今年的0.59美元一路缩窄至2022年的0.30美元。</p><p><b>分析与评论</b></p><p>虽然过去一年时间当中,跟谁学股价涨幅可观,但是近几个月以来,波动也极为剧烈,较之8月的141美元下得55%以上,哪怕较之10月的120美元也低了46%。换言之,虽然营收增长令人印象深刻,但是盈利,乃至于调整后运营利润率等其实都令人失望,该公司并未证明自己具备将强势运营环境转化为运营利润的能力。</p><p>长期而言,中国市场的竞争将持续激烈,而管理层想要留住优秀的师资人才,就必须付出非常可观的代价。如果他们不能用收入挽留住有限的人才,则服务品质就会下滑。虽然何一家企业而言,高增长都会伴随着挑战,但是当一家企业需要面对超过130万学生时,要保证所有人都满意,这挑战就更为巨大。在学生流失率较高的情况下,他们就必须在竞争方面更多付出,而这必然会让利润率受到更大的压迫。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3d2270f719183fc42b53ab41eb017c4a\" tg-width=\"512\" tg-height=\"326\"></p><p>中国线上教育市场今年的一个新势头是,一些新兴企业正在试图以价格战撬开市场大门。诚然,2020年肯定是一个线上教育的大年,但是具体分析,跟谁学现在其实已经摘掉了所有最低的果子,而到了明年,伴随全球疫情退却,他们想要达成现在这样的增长预期其实已经很难了。</p><p>估值方面,该股价格目前相当于过去一年销售额的18.8倍,2020年全年营收普遍预期的14.3倍,2021年普遍预期的8.1倍。无论怎么看,这增长溢价其实都已经贵过了大多数公司。跟谁学的关键之一就在于,虽然该公司是围绕一个科技平台建立起来的,但是他们需要给老师发工资,定期展开宣传活动来推动用户群增长,这也就意味着,它实质上带有鲜明的劳动力密集型和资本密集型色彩。可是,跟谁学的估值却已经可以和那些纯粹科技公司,或者是软件app公司等量齐观了,尽管后者显然更容易实现规模效应。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/14bf13ffc922f55d858586c6c304ed65\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"368\"></p><p>现在,中国线上教育市场的大玩家远不止跟谁学一家,比如最大上市公司好未市值420亿美元,远超跟谁学的150亿美元。虽然好未来今年的增速没有跟谁学这么火爆,但是该公司已经实现了盈利和正向自由现金流。还有产品和服务更广泛的新东方,也实现了盈利。此外,还有新东方在线、海亮教育等也同样是疫情的重大获益者。虽然这些玩家都专注于市场的不同领域,业务模式也不尽相同,但是中国市场竞争激烈的局面无可改变,而这就可能会转化为价格压力,让跟谁学未来增长受限。</p><p><b>最终结论</b></p><p>当前价位意味着市场对于跟谁学的增长前景判断过于乐观,而实际上下跌风险巨大。具体而言,该公司和股票的麻烦在于:</p><p>——虽然销售额和入学增长势头旺盛,但是运营亏损却在扩大。</p><p>——为支持增长所负担的成本压力巨大,包括教师薪酬、营销支出等,这将严重限制盈利潜力。</p><p>——虽然今年的表现在疫情推动下呈现强势,但是到2021年,伴随疫情结束,局面就可能反转过来。</p><p>——强势增长之下,学生数以百万计,教师也成千上万,这就使得品控和消费者满意度的管理变得极为困难。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/becc04985ddbb33452465c5ca9a971c4\" tg-width=\"1024\" tg-height=\"683\"></p><p>——中国线上教育市场竞争极端激烈,若干家大玩家争夺相同的目标客户群,这就意味着价格将背负长期压力。</p><p>——在本年度现金流为负数,且2022年预计将继续亏损的情况下,跟谁学股票的市销率却很高,意味着价格已经达到了极端水平。</p><p>很可能,从下一个季度往后,市场将被迫不断调降跟谁学的各种长期增长预期,给股价造成越来越大的表现低于水准的压力。一旦他们财务前景恶化的势头变得明显,市场情绪也将急转直下,使得股价遭受到新一轮的打压。</p><p>如果跟谁学不希望看到这一幕发生,那么他们就必须能够继续维持当下高企的成长动能,同时还让市场看到运营利润改善的迹象。在这方面,投资者可以关注毛利润率和运营支出等指标,以确定是否能够找到未来盈利潜力的积极信号。</p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1f49cfbbad938b58f9d764c4f5e672e9","relate_stocks":{},"is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1104367018","content_text":"12月14日消息,知名做空机构浑水公司最新表示:跟谁学就是一个骗局。一旦审计失败,股价就会跌至个位数。跟谁学盘前下挫,现跌1.75%。今年以来,跟谁学受到空头机构的“密集轰炸”,包括灰熊研究、香橼资本、天蝎创投,乃至大名鼎鼎的浑水都先后发布做空报告,总数达十余份,指责跟谁学存在财务表现数据造假,注册用户造假,流量刷单,乃至证券欺诈等问题,一时间跟谁学被坊间称作是被做空最多的中概股。虽然这些报告确实造成了跟谁学行情的剧烈波动,但是回望全年,该股依然涨幅惊人。复盘第三季度财报11月20日,跟谁学发布第三季度财报称,公司当季通用会计准则(GAAP)每股ADR(美国存托凭证)亏损0.57美元,净营收19.66亿元人民币,约合2.9亿美元,同比增长253%,延续了第二季度的强势。截至季度结束,跟谁学付费入学学生为125.6万人,同比增长134%,颇为强劲。在过去一年时间当中,各种疫情相关的趋势加速了线上学习需求的增长速度,使得行业迅速迎来了繁荣。然而,这种迅猛的增长也让跟谁学遇到了强劲的挑战,为了持续提供和过去同等品质的教育服务,他们的相关支出,从师资到辅导材料都大幅度增长。唯一可以庆幸的是,这些支出220%的同比增长速度还低于净所得的增速,使得毛利润率能够实现从71.9%到74.4%的同比增长。更加让人担心的是运营支出同比增幅达到了496%,远超过营收,导致运营亏损巨大。管理层宣称,这与销售支出,比如营销费用和销售团队的报酬增长有关。可是,换个视角来看,这其实是在竞争高度激烈的中国线上教育市场上,客户获取成本在增高。正是因为同样的原因,他们的研发支出也攀升了286%。当季调整后运营亏损为0.21亿元人民币,约合1.46亿美元,超过前一季度的1.07亿元人民币,而去年第三季度,他们一度还实现了700万人民币的盈利。企业财测与市场预期目前,跟谁学管理层的第四季度营收目标是在20.76亿至21.16亿元人民币之间,意味着将比2019年同期增长122%至126%。考虑到前九个月的表现,以及当下的货币汇率,华尔街认为该公司全年营收将为10.1亿美元的普遍预期与公司自己的财测是大致相符的。展望来年,市场目前预计该公司营收2021年将增长77%,之后的2022年增长49%。这一切有一个重大的前提,这就是今年入学的新生不流失,同时明年他们还将获取新的客户。在每股盈利方面,跟谁学明年预计将继续亏损,只是具体幅度从今年的0.59美元一路缩窄至2022年的0.30美元。分析与评论虽然过去一年时间当中,跟谁学股价涨幅可观,但是近几个月以来,波动也极为剧烈,较之8月的141美元下得55%以上,哪怕较之10月的120美元也低了46%。换言之,虽然营收增长令人印象深刻,但是盈利,乃至于调整后运营利润率等其实都令人失望,该公司并未证明自己具备将强势运营环境转化为运营利润的能力。长期而言,中国市场的竞争将持续激烈,而管理层想要留住优秀的师资人才,就必须付出非常可观的代价。如果他们不能用收入挽留住有限的人才,则服务品质就会下滑。虽然何一家企业而言,高增长都会伴随着挑战,但是当一家企业需要面对超过130万学生时,要保证所有人都满意,这挑战就更为巨大。在学生流失率较高的情况下,他们就必须在竞争方面更多付出,而这必然会让利润率受到更大的压迫。中国线上教育市场今年的一个新势头是,一些新兴企业正在试图以价格战撬开市场大门。诚然,2020年肯定是一个线上教育的大年,但是具体分析,跟谁学现在其实已经摘掉了所有最低的果子,而到了明年,伴随全球疫情退却,他们想要达成现在这样的增长预期其实已经很难了。估值方面,该股价格目前相当于过去一年销售额的18.8倍,2020年全年营收普遍预期的14.3倍,2021年普遍预期的8.1倍。无论怎么看,这增长溢价其实都已经贵过了大多数公司。跟谁学的关键之一就在于,虽然该公司是围绕一个科技平台建立起来的,但是他们需要给老师发工资,定期展开宣传活动来推动用户群增长,这也就意味着,它实质上带有鲜明的劳动力密集型和资本密集型色彩。可是,跟谁学的估值却已经可以和那些纯粹科技公司,或者是软件app公司等量齐观了,尽管后者显然更容易实现规模效应。现在,中国线上教育市场的大玩家远不止跟谁学一家,比如最大上市公司好未市值420亿美元,远超跟谁学的150亿美元。虽然好未来今年的增速没有跟谁学这么火爆,但是该公司已经实现了盈利和正向自由现金流。还有产品和服务更广泛的新东方,也实现了盈利。此外,还有新东方在线、海亮教育等也同样是疫情的重大获益者。虽然这些玩家都专注于市场的不同领域,业务模式也不尽相同,但是中国市场竞争激烈的局面无可改变,而这就可能会转化为价格压力,让跟谁学未来增长受限。最终结论当前价位意味着市场对于跟谁学的增长前景判断过于乐观,而实际上下跌风险巨大。具体而言,该公司和股票的麻烦在于:——虽然销售额和入学增长势头旺盛,但是运营亏损却在扩大。——为支持增长所负担的成本压力巨大,包括教师薪酬、营销支出等,这将严重限制盈利潜力。——虽然今年的表现在疫情推动下呈现强势,但是到2021年,伴随疫情结束,局面就可能反转过来。——强势增长之下,学生数以百万计,教师也成千上万,这就使得品控和消费者满意度的管理变得极为困难。——中国线上教育市场竞争极端激烈,若干家大玩家争夺相同的目标客户群,这就意味着价格将背负长期压力。——在本年度现金流为负数,且2022年预计将继续亏损的情况下,跟谁学股票的市销率却很高,意味着价格已经达到了极端水平。很可能,从下一个季度往后,市场将被迫不断调降跟谁学的各种长期增长预期,给股价造成越来越大的表现低于水准的压力。一旦他们财务前景恶化的势头变得明显,市场情绪也将急转直下,使得股价遭受到新一轮的打压。如果跟谁学不希望看到这一幕发生,那么他们就必须能够继续维持当下高企的成长动能,同时还让市场看到运营利润改善的迹象。在这方面,投资者可以关注毛利润率和运营支出等指标,以确定是否能够找到未来盈利潜力的积极信号。","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1875,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":392920639,"gmtCreate":1607353397121,"gmtModify":1703847348588,"author":{"id":"3492554609325849","authorId":"3492554609325849","name":"ly2462153","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fa29cb643c0a296abfbc76382c7ff87a","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3492554609325849","authorIdStr":"3492554609325849"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a 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href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00700\">腾讯</a>公司发表声明:<b>腾讯已向法院申请撤回对老干妈公司的财产保全申请及本案诉讼,并就合同诈骗行为已向贵阳公安报案</b>。</p><p>腾讯公司表示:“过去数日内,腾讯和老干妈双方进行了深入沟通,双方已厘清误解。对于事件过程中的种种误会和欠妥之处,<b>腾讯已向老干妈方面当面致歉,后续腾讯将进一步完善相关流程</b>。未来双方也将积极探索并开启一系列正式合作。”</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/64cb1325e4c5c366dcc18276e6fca4ad\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"1527\"></p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/87f4669ffbb9e3eb6d05543549f5da55","relate_stocks":{"00700":"腾讯控股"},"is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1171592811","content_text":"7月10日消息,腾讯公司发表声明:腾讯已向法院申请撤回对老干妈公司的财产保全申请及本案诉讼,并就合同诈骗行为已向贵阳公安报案。腾讯公司表示:“过去数日内,腾讯和老干妈双方进行了深入沟通,双方已厘清误解。对于事件过程中的种种误会和欠妥之处,腾讯已向老干妈方面当面致歉,后续腾讯将进一步完善相关流程。未来双方也将积极探索并开启一系列正式合作。”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":177,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}