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我爱投机倒把

2020-08-27

今年最大的失误就是在疫情期间抛售了美股，而且还做空特斯拉。希望还能有挽回[捂脸]

我爱投机倒把

2020-08-27

今年最大的失误就是在疫情期间抛售了美股，还做空了特斯拉。可惜醒悟太晚了！希望还能挽回的余地[笑哭]

我爱投机倒把

2020-08-14

割资本主义韭菜，补贴中国消费者，有错吗？[开心]

独家还原“特斯拉事件”全过程：用户于官网自主下单订购，未涉嫌转卖代售

我爱投机倒把

2020-06-25

$英特尔(INTC)$期待大涨！

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2020-06-08

是不是罚60万？

瑞幸“造假门”升级，陆正耀要承担什么刑责？

我爱投机倒把

2020-05-28

$SG人民币主连(UCmain)$ 会不会到8.79？

我爱投机倒把

2020-05-07

长起来，哈哈哈

我爱投机倒把

2020-03-21

$特斯拉(TSLA)$没任何利好的大涨，这是回光返照[开心] 空他丫的！

我爱投机倒把

2020-03-18

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 经此一疫，美国不再是超级大国！嗨起来！

我爱投机倒把

2020-03-18

$Expedia(EXPE)$天天熔断，百年难得一见[看跌] [龇牙]

我爱投机倒把

2020-03-18

$特斯拉(TSLA)$天天熔断，百年难得一见[得意] [开心]

我爱投机倒把

2020-03-18

$特斯拉(TSLA)$[龇牙] 今天调整一下，明天继续狂泻！

我爱投机倒把

2020-03-14

$Expedia(EXPE)$呵呵^_^

我爱投机倒把

2020-03-14

$特斯拉(TSLA)$呵呵

我爱投机倒把

2020-03-13

2020-03-13 交易笔记 by 我爱投机倒把

2020-03-13 成本现价浮动收益特斯拉(TSLA) 607.10 519.90 14.36% 让暴风雨来的更猛烈吧！

2020-03-13 交易笔记 by 我爱投机倒把

我爱投机倒把

2020-03-13

2020-03-13 交易笔记 by 我爱投机倒把

2020-03-13 成本现价浮动收益特斯拉(TSLA) 607.10 560.70 7.64% 看空，刚刚反弹补了仓，继续跌！

2020-03-13 交易笔记 by 我爱投机倒把

我爱投机倒把

2020-03-12

旅游第一股，果断做空

我爱投机倒把

2020-03-10

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 经此一疫，美国不再是超级大国！

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2020-03-10

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 跑得快，争上游！

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2020-03-10

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 快逃！

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标准续航版只需要251550元。</p><p>这一价格也创造了特斯拉入华后的历史最低价。</p><p>H先生正是在微信群里得知了这一消息，在活动当天，他定好闹钟，第一时间支付定金，成为了幸运儿之一。</p><p>H先生是湖北地区的特斯拉爱好者之一，很早就加入了湖北区域的一些特斯拉车友群，经常在群里浏览相关信息，“这次看到拼多多补贴，我咬咬牙，凑了点钱，决定也要入手一台，蹲守了半天，让我一下抢上了”。</p><p>入华之后，特斯拉在各地都有了不少铁杆粉丝，成立了粉丝会，H先生正是其中之一。但他表示，因为特斯拉的直营门店有限，且价格相对昂贵，使得自己一方面购车不方便，另一方面，也缺少一个“剁手”的理由。</p><p>在抢到补贴资格后，宜买车方迅速与其取得了联系，据H先生回忆，工作人员核实了他的身份及买车用途，并表示为防止“转卖”补贴资格，需要明确说明，只有本人购车，平台才会提供补贴。</p><p>数日后，上述工作人员再度与其取得联系，告知其按照特斯拉的规定，必须通过特斯拉官网下单并支付定金，因此，H先生本人操作支付了官网订金1000元，留下了相关的购车信息。</p><p>“拼多多帮我代付，有错吗”</p><p>H先生提供的聊天记录显示，支付完订金后，有一名特斯拉武汉店的客服人员与其取得联系，发来了订单和支付信息。</p><p>在交流中，H先生主动告知，会由拼多多代为完成付款。</p><p>据了解，拼多多与宜买车为确保消费者的补贴真实用于自我购车，与消费者约定，将在消费者提车的支付环节代为付款，支付271550元。</p><p>行业人士表示，这样的代付设置，一般是为了保障平台补贴消费者购买行为的真实性，而代付款的行为，本质上相当于消费者与第三方达成了一个临时性的“垫付协议”，属于消费者与第三方的协议，与特斯拉方无关。</p><img img_height=\"399\" img_width=\"553\" inline=\"0\" src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3978114d7b8f42ed9f2b82ed8d4337bb\"/><p>消费者提供的聊天记录显示，该交易系由其本人独立完成，并通过官方支付渠道完成了支付。</p><p>在得知代付款方为拼多多后，该客服人员再度与其确认了实际购车人和上牌人的信息，H先生对客服表示，“我只是委托他帮我交钱”。</p><p>随后，该客服人员将上述情况汇报给了特斯拉公司，聊天截图显示，该客服将上述问题反馈给了公司客服人员。</p><p>与此同时，H现代胜按照此前购车时的订单约定，委托拼多多及宜买车完成了支付，将车款全额转入了特斯拉提供的官方账户。</p><img img_height=\"343\" img_width=\"553\" inline=\"0\" src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b2da81efadff42e8ac63f9446379c848\"/><p>订单截图显示，该笔订单实际签约人为其本人</p><p>行业律师表示，消费者本人与公司签订了购买协议，协议中并未规定不得由第三方代付，因此，按照合同规定，只要消费者真实履约完成支付，特斯拉就理应履行约定，交付汽车。</p><p>但H先生没想到的是，正是这一句“拼多多付款”，却为他惹来了麻烦，“拼多多帮我代付，我的理解就是有个人帮我付个款，和我借钱买车一样，这也有错吗？”</p><p>行业人士：交易并未违反特斯拉规定，按照法律规定真实有效</p><p>在得到客服人员拒绝交付车辆的消息后，H先生得到了疑似特斯拉法务部门的解释：</p><p>我司有证据合理认定此订单为拼多多或其商家以您名义下单，实际上构成向我司隐瞒真实下单信息，亦属于未越转售我司车辆，该行为违反了特斯拉汽车订购条款中明确约定的禁止转卖条款。</p><p>查阅特斯拉官网，可发现特斯拉对这一条款的解释。H先生认为，这一条款极其不清晰，可以说认定标准为特斯拉拥有全部解释权。</p><img img_height=\"202\" img_width=\"553\" inline=\"0\" src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f61e6138b65841e7aaac5627b2cfec05\"/><p>当晚，特斯拉对外回应中也表示，“官网为新车唯一正规购买渠道，任何涉及转卖的订单，公司有权单方面解除协议”。</p><p>但从交易过程来看，这笔订单很显然并不符合任何意义上的“转卖”“转售”。</p><p>首先，消费者系本人真实下单，并由本人真实支付了订金，且由本人完成最终提车、上牌操作，而转卖的定义，是拍下汽车后，由第三方人士前往进行提车。特斯拉此项规定，旨在限制黄牛党的存在，而很显然，H先生并非转卖的消费者。</p><p>其次，此次购车全部发生于特斯拉制定的官方渠道，由官网下单、支付订金、通过特斯拉的官方账户完成支付，在这一过程中，自始至终是消费者通过特斯拉官网完成了合同。从法律角度看，该购车合同真实有效。</p><p>行业人士表示，拼多多及宜买车在此次购车过程中，扮演的是代付款角色，相当于购车人私下与第三方借钱来完成购买，并由第三方购买。类比来看，相当于消费者自己在外面找了第三方来融资，由第三方代为付款，这笔合同与特斯拉无任何直接关联，因此，也不存在“代售”的问题。</p><p>H先生对于特斯拉的回应也无法认同，“如果我找我女朋友来代付，是不是也涉嫌违规？”事实上，特斯拉的这种解释并未获得网友认可。有网友提出疑问，如果我私人拿出几万块钱奖励给别人，要求他们自己下单买特斯拉，买来之后我就把钱给他，那这算不算我代售特斯拉？</p><p>特斯拉中美合同区别对待，引发网友争议</p><p>在这一事件中，特斯拉关于“强制取消订单”的规定引发了强烈质疑。在上述规定中，特斯拉表示，“任何我司认为其目的是为了转卖的订单或者有其他非善意目的的订单，我司有权单方面解除协议”。</p><p>“任何我司认为”以及“非善意目的”两个表述在网友看来属于典型的“霸王条款”，上述律师表示，“任何我司认为”的表述太过模糊，从规则角度来看，相当于把所有权力都收归了企业，而“非善意目的”则属于无法界定的表述。</p><p>因此，单纯从这条规则来看，其潜台词相当于，“任何我不想卖的订单，我都有权取消”。从交易合同的角度来看，这样的合同是有明显问题的，也侵犯了消费者的正常权益，违反了中国消费者权益保护法中关于“权益平等”的基本精神。</p><p>一位行业人士表示，特斯拉一开始之所以会设定这样的奇葩条款，主要是为了防止有人恶意刷单抢名额，但这样一则明显违反中国法律的规则长期存在，也暴露出特斯拉在消费者权益保护方面和尊重本地规则方面还有不少欠缺。</p><p>而在网络上，有网友贴出了特斯拉在美国区的规则原文：</p><p>特斯拉在中国和美国关于订单取消的定金规定有着明显不同。</p><p>网友发现，特斯拉美国区相关规则的解释，比中国区的解释更清晰，且明确规定，如果特斯拉认为客户有恶意而取消订单，则需要将定金返回给消费者。而在中国区的相关解释中，只要消费者有任何希望维权、要求退款的行为，特斯拉就可以以“怀疑有其他非善意目的”等理由拒绝向车主交付新车，且不退定金。</p><p>网友认为，这说明特斯拉至少在规则上并没有重视与消费者的权益，“凭什么区别对待？中国人买车被你们取消订单，就不退钱了？”</p><p>不论如何，拼多多的补贴在特斯拉看来是破坏自己的价格体系，这才是特斯拉不惜侵犯消费者权益引发众怒，也要强制取消订单的真实原因。</p><p>“其实，拼多多的补贴对特斯拉应该是好事，有人免费补贴让更多消费者来购买特斯拉，从商业上看，特斯拉不仅获得了新用户，也没有损失，一些暂时性的补贴也不会破坏特斯拉的整体定价体系”，上述行业人士分析，“其实，这些愤怒背后，隐藏的还是一些国际企业因循守旧，面对消费者和市场缺乏敬畏，与其因为有人补贴就生气，不如好好想想，为什么拼多多的一次补贴，就能引来这么多消费者关注，是不是自己的定价体系出现了问题，有一些不适应中国市场的情况？”</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE 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href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>万人团活动领取补贴后，在完成全部支付并向特斯拉进行提成时，遭遇特斯拉“强行取消订单”。</p><p>整起事件一度存在多重疑点。消费者购车是否为正常行为？购车过程中是否违反特斯拉相关规定？拼多多及平台商家宜买车在整起交易中扮演着什么角色？</p><p>我们独家采访了事件当事人H先生（应受访者要求化名），对方提供了全部聊天记录及订单截图显示，H先生自主在特斯拉官网为自己订车，并通过特斯拉客服提供的支付信息完成了支付，从交易环节上看，消费者并不存在任何“转卖”“代售”嫌疑。</p><p>而拼多多及宜买车，在整起事件中仅在支付环节，为消费者提供补贴，因此作为代付方替消费者完成了支付。</p><p>种种迹象显示，这是特斯拉在官方直营体系遭遇第三方促销行为后采取的应激性保护措施，但这一强制取消订单的行为，却违背了特斯拉自己的规则，也涉嫌违反了消费者权益保护法。</p><p>“平台通知我，要通过特斯拉官网下单”</p><p>7月22日，拼多多上线特斯拉秒杀万人团活动。活动页面显示，拼多多平台与宜买车合作，为消费者提供了2万元的现金补贴，官方渠道售价271550元（已减去国家新能源补贴）的特斯拉Model 3 标准续航版只需要251550元。</p><p>这一价格也创造了特斯拉入华后的历史最低价。</p><p>H先生正是在微信群里得知了这一消息，在活动当天，他定好闹钟，第一时间支付定金，成为了幸运儿之一。</p><p>H先生是湖北地区的特斯拉爱好者之一，很早就加入了湖北区域的一些特斯拉车友群，经常在群里浏览相关信息，“这次看到拼多多补贴，我咬咬牙，凑了点钱，决定也要入手一台，蹲守了半天，让我一下抢上了”。</p><p>入华之后，特斯拉在各地都有了不少铁杆粉丝，成立了粉丝会，H先生正是其中之一。但他表示，因为特斯拉的直营门店有限，且价格相对昂贵，使得自己一方面购车不方便，另一方面，也缺少一个“剁手”的理由。</p><p>在抢到补贴资格后，宜买车方迅速与其取得了联系，据H先生回忆，工作人员核实了他的身份及买车用途，并表示为防止“转卖”补贴资格，需要明确说明，只有本人购车，平台才会提供补贴。</p><p>数日后，上述工作人员再度与其取得联系，告知其按照特斯拉的规定，必须通过特斯拉官网下单并支付定金，因此，H先生本人操作支付了官网订金1000元，留下了相关的购车信息。</p><p>“拼多多帮我代付，有错吗”</p><p>H先生提供的聊天记录显示，支付完订金后，有一名特斯拉武汉店的客服人员与其取得联系，发来了订单和支付信息。</p><p>在交流中，H先生主动告知，会由拼多多代为完成付款。</p><p>据了解，拼多多与宜买车为确保消费者的补贴真实用于自我购车，与消费者约定，将在消费者提车的支付环节代为付款，支付271550元。</p><p>行业人士表示，这样的代付设置，一般是为了保障平台补贴消费者购买行为的真实性，而代付款的行为，本质上相当于消费者与第三方达成了一个临时性的“垫付协议”，属于消费者与第三方的协议，与特斯拉方无关。</p><img img_height=\"399\" img_width=\"553\" inline=\"0\" src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3978114d7b8f42ed9f2b82ed8d4337bb\"/><p>消费者提供的聊天记录显示，该交易系由其本人独立完成，并通过官方支付渠道完成了支付。</p><p>在得知代付款方为拼多多后，该客服人员再度与其确认了实际购车人和上牌人的信息，H先生对客服表示，“我只是委托他帮我交钱”。</p><p>随后，该客服人员将上述情况汇报给了特斯拉公司，聊天截图显示，该客服将上述问题反馈给了公司客服人员。</p><p>与此同时，H现代胜按照此前购车时的订单约定，委托拼多多及宜买车完成了支付，将车款全额转入了特斯拉提供的官方账户。</p><img img_height=\"343\" img_width=\"553\" inline=\"0\" src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b2da81efadff42e8ac63f9446379c848\"/><p>订单截图显示，该笔订单实际签约人为其本人</p><p>行业律师表示，消费者本人与公司签订了购买协议，协议中并未规定不得由第三方代付，因此，按照合同规定，只要消费者真实履约完成支付，特斯拉就理应履行约定，交付汽车。</p><p>但H先生没想到的是，正是这一句“拼多多付款”，却为他惹来了麻烦，“拼多多帮我代付，我的理解就是有个人帮我付个款，和我借钱买车一样，这也有错吗？”</p><p>行业人士：交易并未违反特斯拉规定，按照法律规定真实有效</p><p>在得到客服人员拒绝交付车辆的消息后，H先生得到了疑似特斯拉法务部门的解释：</p><p>我司有证据合理认定此订单为拼多多或其商家以您名义下单，实际上构成向我司隐瞒真实下单信息，亦属于未越转售我司车辆，该行为违反了特斯拉汽车订购条款中明确约定的禁止转卖条款。</p><p>查阅特斯拉官网，可发现特斯拉对这一条款的解释。H先生认为，这一条款极其不清晰，可以说认定标准为特斯拉拥有全部解释权。</p><img img_height=\"202\" img_width=\"553\" inline=\"0\" src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f61e6138b65841e7aaac5627b2cfec05\"/><p>当晚，特斯拉对外回应中也表示，“官网为新车唯一正规购买渠道，任何涉及转卖的订单，公司有权单方面解除协议”。</p><p>但从交易过程来看，这笔订单很显然并不符合任何意义上的“转卖”“转售”。</p><p>首先，消费者系本人真实下单，并由本人真实支付了订金，且由本人完成最终提车、上牌操作，而转卖的定义，是拍下汽车后，由第三方人士前往进行提车。特斯拉此项规定，旨在限制黄牛党的存在，而很显然，H先生并非转卖的消费者。</p><p>其次，此次购车全部发生于特斯拉制定的官方渠道，由官网下单、支付订金、通过特斯拉的官方账户完成支付，在这一过程中，自始至终是消费者通过特斯拉官网完成了合同。从法律角度看，该购车合同真实有效。</p><p>行业人士表示，拼多多及宜买车在此次购车过程中，扮演的是代付款角色，相当于购车人私下与第三方借钱来完成购买，并由第三方购买。类比来看，相当于消费者自己在外面找了第三方来融资，由第三方代为付款，这笔合同与特斯拉无任何直接关联，因此，也不存在“代售”的问题。</p><p>H先生对于特斯拉的回应也无法认同，“如果我找我女朋友来代付，是不是也涉嫌违规？”事实上，特斯拉的这种解释并未获得网友认可。有网友提出疑问，如果我私人拿出几万块钱奖励给别人，要求他们自己下单买特斯拉，买来之后我就把钱给他，那这算不算我代售特斯拉？</p><p>特斯拉中美合同区别对待，引发网友争议</p><p>在这一事件中，特斯拉关于“强制取消订单”的规定引发了强烈质疑。在上述规定中，特斯拉表示，“任何我司认为其目的是为了转卖的订单或者有其他非善意目的的订单，我司有权单方面解除协议”。</p><p>“任何我司认为”以及“非善意目的”两个表述在网友看来属于典型的“霸王条款”，上述律师表示，“任何我司认为”的表述太过模糊，从规则角度来看，相当于把所有权力都收归了企业，而“非善意目的”则属于无法界定的表述。</p><p>因此，单纯从这条规则来看，其潜台词相当于，“任何我不想卖的订单，我都有权取消”。从交易合同的角度来看，这样的合同是有明显问题的，也侵犯了消费者的正常权益，违反了中国消费者权益保护法中关于“权益平等”的基本精神。</p><p>一位行业人士表示，特斯拉一开始之所以会设定这样的奇葩条款，主要是为了防止有人恶意刷单抢名额，但这样一则明显违反中国法律的规则长期存在，也暴露出特斯拉在消费者权益保护方面和尊重本地规则方面还有不少欠缺。</p><p>而在网络上，有网友贴出了特斯拉在美国区的规则原文：</p><p>特斯拉在中国和美国关于订单取消的定金规定有着明显不同。</p><p>网友发现，特斯拉美国区相关规则的解释，比中国区的解释更清晰，且明确规定，如果特斯拉认为客户有恶意而取消订单，则需要将定金返回给消费者。而在中国区的相关解释中，只要消费者有任何希望维权、要求退款的行为，特斯拉就可以以“怀疑有其他非善意目的”等理由拒绝向车主交付新车，且不退定金。</p><p>网友认为，这说明特斯拉至少在规则上并没有重视与消费者的权益，“凭什么区别对待？中国人买车被你们取消订单，就不退钱了？”</p><p>不论如何，拼多多的补贴在特斯拉看来是破坏自己的价格体系，这才是特斯拉不惜侵犯消费者权益引发众怒，也要强制取消订单的真实原因。</p><p>“其实，拼多多的补贴对特斯拉应该是好事，有人免费补贴让更多消费者来购买特斯拉，从商业上看，特斯拉不仅获得了新用户，也没有损失，一些暂时性的补贴也不会破坏特斯拉的整体定价体系”，上述行业人士分析，“其实，这些愤怒背后，隐藏的还是一些国际企业因循守旧，面对消费者和市场缺乏敬畏，与其因为有人补贴就生气，不如好好想想，为什么拼多多的一次补贴，就能引来这么多消费者关注，是不是自己的定价体系出现了问题，有一些不适应中国市场的情况？”</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/78edc8337704ffd6760fab4583246af8","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://m.toutiao.com/i6860853544577139207/info/?i=6860853544577139207","is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2059699197","content_text":"据媒体报道，湖北一名消费者在参加拼多多特斯拉万人团活动领取补贴后，在完成全部支付并向特斯拉进行提成时，遭遇特斯拉“强行取消订单”。整起事件一度存在多重疑点。消费者购车是否为正常行为？购车过程中是否违反特斯拉相关规定？拼多多及平台商家宜买车在整起交易中扮演着什么角色？我们独家采访了事件当事人H先生（应受访者要求化名），对方提供了全部聊天记录及订单截图显示，H先生自主在特斯拉官网为自己订车，并通过特斯拉客服提供的支付信息完成了支付，从交易环节上看，消费者并不存在任何“转卖”“代售”嫌疑。而拼多多及宜买车，在整起事件中仅在支付环节，为消费者提供补贴，因此作为代付方替消费者完成了支付。种种迹象显示，这是特斯拉在官方直营体系遭遇第三方促销行为后采取的应激性保护措施，但这一强制取消订单的行为，却违背了特斯拉自己的规则，也涉嫌违反了消费者权益保护法。“平台通知我，要通过特斯拉官网下单”7月22日，拼多多上线特斯拉秒杀万人团活动。活动页面显示，拼多多平台与宜买车合作，为消费者提供了2万元的现金补贴，官方渠道售价271550元（已减去国家新能源补贴）的特斯拉Model 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标准续航版只需要251550元。这一价格也创造了特斯拉入华后的历史最低价。H先生正是在微信群里得知了这一消息，在活动当天，他定好闹钟，第一时间支付定金，成为了幸运儿之一。H先生是湖北地区的特斯拉爱好者之一，很早就加入了湖北区域的一些特斯拉车友群，经常在群里浏览相关信息，“这次看到拼多多补贴，我咬咬牙，凑了点钱，决定也要入手一台，蹲守了半天，让我一下抢上了”。入华之后，特斯拉在各地都有了不少铁杆粉丝，成立了粉丝会，H先生正是其中之一。但他表示，因为特斯拉的直营门店有限，且价格相对昂贵，使得自己一方面购车不方便，另一方面，也缺少一个“剁手”的理由。在抢到补贴资格后，宜买车方迅速与其取得了联系，据H先生回忆，工作人员核实了他的身份及买车用途，并表示为防止“转卖”补贴资格，需要明确说明，只有本人购车，平台才会提供补贴。数日后，上述工作人员再度与其取得联系，告知其按照特斯拉的规定，必须通过特斯拉官网下单并支付定金，因此，H先生本人操作支付了官网订金1000元，留下了相关的购车信息。“拼多多帮我代付，有错吗”H先生提供的聊天记录显示，支付完订金后，有一名特斯拉武汉店的客服人员与其取得联系，发来了订单和支付信息。在交流中，H先生主动告知，会由拼多多代为完成付款。据了解，拼多多与宜买车为确保消费者的补贴真实用于自我购车，与消费者约定，将在消费者提车的支付环节代为付款，支付271550元。行业人士表示，这样的代付设置，一般是为了保障平台补贴消费者购买行为的真实性，而代付款的行为，本质上相当于消费者与第三方达成了一个临时性的“垫付协议”，属于消费者与第三方的协议，与特斯拉方无关。消费者提供的聊天记录显示，该交易系由其本人独立完成，并通过官方支付渠道完成了支付。在得知代付款方为拼多多后，该客服人员再度与其确认了实际购车人和上牌人的信息，H先生对客服表示，“我只是委托他帮我交钱”。随后，该客服人员将上述情况汇报给了特斯拉公司，聊天截图显示，该客服将上述问题反馈给了公司客服人员。与此同时，H现代胜按照此前购车时的订单约定，委托拼多多及宜买车完成了支付，将车款全额转入了特斯拉提供的官方账户。订单截图显示，该笔订单实际签约人为其本人行业律师表示，消费者本人与公司签订了购买协议，协议中并未规定不得由第三方代付，因此，按照合同规定，只要消费者真实履约完成支付，特斯拉就理应履行约定，交付汽车。但H先生没想到的是，正是这一句“拼多多付款”，却为他惹来了麻烦，“拼多多帮我代付，我的理解就是有个人帮我付个款，和我借钱买车一样，这也有错吗？”行业人士：交易并未违反特斯拉规定，按照法律规定真实有效在得到客服人员拒绝交付车辆的消息后，H先生得到了疑似特斯拉法务部门的解释：我司有证据合理认定此订单为拼多多或其商家以您名义下单，实际上构成向我司隐瞒真实下单信息，亦属于未越转售我司车辆，该行为违反了特斯拉汽车订购条款中明确约定的禁止转卖条款。查阅特斯拉官网，可发现特斯拉对这一条款的解释。H先生认为，这一条款极其不清晰，可以说认定标准为特斯拉拥有全部解释权。当晚，特斯拉对外回应中也表示，“官网为新车唯一正规购买渠道，任何涉及转卖的订单，公司有权单方面解除协议”。但从交易过程来看，这笔订单很显然并不符合任何意义上的“转卖”“转售”。首先，消费者系本人真实下单，并由本人真实支付了订金，且由本人完成最终提车、上牌操作，而转卖的定义，是拍下汽车后，由第三方人士前往进行提车。特斯拉此项规定，旨在限制黄牛党的存在，而很显然，H先生并非转卖的消费者。其次，此次购车全部发生于特斯拉制定的官方渠道，由官网下单、支付订金、通过特斯拉的官方账户完成支付，在这一过程中，自始至终是消费者通过特斯拉官网完成了合同。从法律角度看，该购车合同真实有效。行业人士表示，拼多多及宜买车在此次购车过程中，扮演的是代付款角色，相当于购车人私下与第三方借钱来完成购买，并由第三方购买。类比来看，相当于消费者自己在外面找了第三方来融资，由第三方代为付款，这笔合同与特斯拉无任何直接关联，因此，也不存在“代售”的问题。H先生对于特斯拉的回应也无法认同，“如果我找我女朋友来代付，是不是也涉嫌违规？”事实上，特斯拉的这种解释并未获得网友认可。有网友提出疑问，如果我私人拿出几万块钱奖励给别人，要求他们自己下单买特斯拉，买来之后我就把钱给他，那这算不算我代售特斯拉？特斯拉中美合同区别对待，引发网友争议在这一事件中，特斯拉关于“强制取消订单”的规定引发了强烈质疑。在上述规定中，特斯拉表示，“任何我司认为其目的是为了转卖的订单或者有其他非善意目的的订单，我司有权单方面解除协议”。“任何我司认为”以及“非善意目的”两个表述在网友看来属于典型的“霸王条款”，上述律师表示，“任何我司认为”的表述太过模糊，从规则角度来看，相当于把所有权力都收归了企业，而“非善意目的”则属于无法界定的表述。因此，单纯从这条规则来看，其潜台词相当于，“任何我不想卖的订单，我都有权取消”。从交易合同的角度来看，这样的合同是有明显问题的，也侵犯了消费者的正常权益，违反了中国消费者权益保护法中关于“权益平等”的基本精神。一位行业人士表示，特斯拉一开始之所以会设定这样的奇葩条款，主要是为了防止有人恶意刷单抢名额，但这样一则明显违反中国法律的规则长期存在，也暴露出特斯拉在消费者权益保护方面和尊重本地规则方面还有不少欠缺。而在网络上，有网友贴出了特斯拉在美国区的规则原文：特斯拉在中国和美国关于订单取消的定金规定有着明显不同。网友发现，特斯拉美国区相关规则的解释，比中国区的解释更清晰，且明确规定，如果特斯拉认为客户有恶意而取消订单，则需要将定金返回给消费者。而在中国区的相关解释中，只要消费者有任何希望维权、要求退款的行为，特斯拉就可以以“怀疑有其他非善意目的”等理由拒绝向车主交付新车，且不退定金。网友认为，这说明特斯拉至少在规则上并没有重视与消费者的权益，“凭什么区别对待？中国人买车被你们取消订单，就不退钱了？”不论如何，拼多多的补贴在特斯拉看来是破坏自己的价格体系，这才是特斯拉不惜侵犯消费者权益引发众怒，也要强制取消订单的真实原因。“其实，拼多多的补贴对特斯拉应该是好事，有人免费补贴让更多消费者来购买特斯拉，从商业上看，特斯拉不仅获得了新用户，也没有损失，一些暂时性的补贴也不会破坏特斯拉的整体定价体系”，上述行业人士分析，“其实，这些愤怒背后，隐藏的还是一些国际企业因循守旧，面对消费者和市场缺乏敬畏，与其因为有人补贴就生气，不如好好想想，为什么拼多多的一次补贴，就能引来这么多消费者关注，是不是自己的定价体系出现了问题，有一些不适应中国市场的情况？”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":830,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":954707862,"gmtCreate":1593019533856,"gmtModify":1704201040946,"author":{"id":"251050056583592","authorId":"251050056583592","authorIdStr":"251050056583592","name":"我爱投机倒把","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/628944e4b5f15111c4697b345254c8fb","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"251050056583592"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a 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src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1eeda5416321ecab01ac0dc950ac1759\" tg-width=\"780\" tg-height=\"527\"></p>\n<p>上周<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LK\">瑞幸咖啡</a>股价反弹凶猛</p>\n<p>中国政法大学财税法研究中心主任施正文曾公开表示，企业所得税是由企业自主申报：“正是一些上市公司由于虚增收入和利润能提振股价，带来更多的利益，所以才愿意多交企业所得税，但这种虚增收入利润做法破坏市场秩序和税收征管秩序。”</p>\n<blockquote>\n 根据《税收征管法》第六十四条，纳税人、扣缴义务人编造虚假计税依据的，由税务机关责令限期改正，并处五万元以下的罚款。\n</blockquote>\n<p><b>换而言之，瑞幸因造假可能面临税务机关的直接罚款。</b></p>\n<p>这点罚款对瑞幸而言似乎影响不大，但一名企业主告诉锌刻度其另有玄机：“一旦属实，则瑞幸有可能纳税信用等级被评为D级，之后会被税务列入重点监控对象，提高监督检查频次，这日子就不好过了。更为关键的是，税务会建议相关部门在经营、投融资、进出口、生产许可、资质审核等方面予以限制或禁止，倘若上述措施有一两条或者多条被采用，企业就要跪了。”</p>\n<p>而相较于税务处罚，对于瑞幸和陆正耀而言，将面临的更严重后果，很有可能是会被进一步追责。</p>\n<p><b><span>陆正耀最高可判25年监禁</span></b></p>\n<p>前为某世界500强公司法律顾问、现为独立执业律师的周玉婕接受锌刻度专访时，她一针见血指出，倘若虚增交易被证实属实，将面临个人与公司的双重处罚。</p>\n<p>瑞幸涉嫌财务造假、信息披露违法违规，难逃《中华人民共和国证券法》的处罚，“在以前，对于虚假记载、误导性陈述或者重大遗漏的违法行为，定格处罚为60万元，2020年3月3日之后新版《中华人民共和国证券法》正式实施，定格处罚升至1000万元。”</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a608cd5ae1c591953f5443d411164398\" tg-width=\"800\" tg-height=\"569\"></p>\n<p>瑞幸咖啡涉嫌故意进行证券欺诈</p>\n<p>依据美国2002年颁布的《萨班斯法案》，一旦提供不实财报、故意进行证券欺诈被坐实，公司要被顶格处罚2500万美元，这意味着瑞幸在中美两国恐都面临千万级罚金。</p>\n<p>陆正耀同样面临高额罚金。</p>\n<blockquote>\n 《中华人民共和国刑法》第161条规定，对依法应当披露的其他重要信息不按照规定披露，严重损害股东或者其他人利益，或者有其他严重情节的，对其直接负责的主管人员和其他直接责任人员，处三年以下有期徒刑或者拘役，并处或者单处二万元以上二十万元以下罚金；根据新版《中华人民共和国证券法》，控股股东或实际控制人最高可处以1000万元罚款，“根据《萨班斯法案》，相关高管要被判处10~25年的监禁以及最高500万美元的罚金。”\n</blockquote>\n<p>从这个角度来看，陆正耀在中美两国恐都面临牢狱之灾，不过周玉婕表示也有变数存在：“实践中，控股股东或实际控制人没有参与实际经营与管理，也没有直接实施或者参与财务造假，就不用承担相应的刑事责任。”</p>\n<p>因此，问题的关键在于“陆正耀对于公司财务造假的指令性电子邮件”是否真实存在，一旦实锤，身为第一大股东拥有36.86%投票表决权、曾经担任提名及公司治理委员会主席的陆正耀就难辞其咎，其余的相关董监高、审计机构都会被追责。</p>\n<p><b><span>投资者境内也可起诉</span></b></p>\n<p>陆正耀的责任尚待最终确认，但投资者的损失却是明晰的。</p>\n<p>一名互联网观察人士表示：“退市听证会只不过起到延缓的作用，瑞幸被摘牌几无悬念，投资者的真金白银恐付之东流。”</p>\n<p>事实上，早在2020年4月初美国专业集体诉讼服务机构Bronstein, Gewirtz &amp; Grossman就向瑞幸及其高层提起集体诉讼。所谓集体诉讼就是诸多受访者彼此间具有共同利益，但人数过多致无法全体进行诉讼，得由其中一人或数人为全体利益起诉，成功之后全体享受同等的赔偿。</p>\n<p>对此，周玉婕表示在境内也可起诉瑞幸。</p>\n<p>首先，有法律依据。新版《中华人民共和国证券法》第九十五条规定，投资者提起虚假陈述等证券民事赔偿诉讼时，诉讼标的是同一种类，且当事人一方人数众多的，可以依法推选代表人进行诉讼；投资者保护机构受五十名以上投资者委托，可以作为代表人参加诉讼，并为经证券登记结算机构确认的权利人依照前款规定向人民法院登记。</p>\n<p>也就是说，境内的代表人诉讼制度可以起到集体诉讼的效果。</p>\n<p>其次，国内有苦主。北京郝俊波律师事务所主任律师郝俊波之前表示，国内投资者损失数额较大的达到了数百万美元，而财报显示有不少中资投资机构也深受其害，譬如君联资本、中金佳成等。</p>\n<p>再次，有管辖法院。据启信宝数据显示，瑞幸咖啡注册虽然在开曼群岛，但境内经营实体瑞幸咖啡（中国）有限公司注册地为厦门市，且直接或间接持有的数十家分公司也在境内，按照法律规定，厦门市中级人民法院应当受理，而之前有媒体报道该法院公开表示可以起诉。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3de2b3d9835fcf5d28a8075800a2c92a\" tg-width=\"800\" tg-height=\"533\"></p>\n<p>境内已具备起诉瑞幸的条件</p>\n<p>北京大成（武汉）律师事务所刘天志律师也表达过同样的观点：“国内的投资者在美国起诉是有诸多不便的，比如费用高昂、沟通成本高等，相比较而言境内法院在查扣财产、执行等方面具有明显优势。因此，境内诉讼值得尝试。”</p>\n<p>需要注意点的是，境内起诉也不乏痛点。</p>\n<p>周玉婕告诉锌刻度，第一个痛点是境内尚无起诉中概股的先例，整个起诉流程要摸索、探讨与磨合，需消耗一定时日；第二个痛点是投资者需证明瑞幸财务造假与自身损失有因果联系，譬如4月2日之后再买入瑞幸咖啡遭受损失的投资者就不能追诉。</p>\n<p><b>总的来看，瑞幸咖啡与陆正耀面临中美两国法律的双重追责、民事与刑事的双重追责已是无可辩驳的事实。</b></p>\n<p>曾经令全球瞩目的创业明星瑞幸，正和它的创始人一起，走在悬崖边缘。</p>","source":"lsy1568158634801","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>瑞幸“造假门”升级，陆正耀要承担什么刑责？</title>\n<style 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根据《税收征管法》第六十四条，纳税人、扣缴义务人编造虚假计税依据的，由税务机关责令限期改正，并处五万元以下的罚款。\n\n换而言之，瑞幸因造假可能面临税务机关的直接罚款。\n这点罚款对瑞幸而言似乎影响不大，但一名企业主告诉锌刻度其另有玄机：“一旦属实，则瑞幸有可能纳税信用等级被评为D级，之后会被税务列入重点监控对象，提高监督检查频次，这日子就不好过了。更为关键的是，税务会建议相关部门在经营、投融资、进出口、生产许可、资质审核等方面予以限制或禁止，倘若上述措施有一两条或者多条被采用，企业就要跪了。”\n而相较于税务处罚，对于瑞幸和陆正耀而言，将面临的更严重后果，很有可能是会被进一步追责。\n陆正耀最高可判25年监禁\n前为某世界500强公司法律顾问、现为独立执业律师的周玉婕接受锌刻度专访时，她一针见血指出，倘若虚增交易被证实属实，将面临个人与公司的双重处罚。\n瑞幸涉嫌财务造假、信息披露违法违规，难逃《中华人民共和国证券法》的处罚，“在以前，对于虚假记载、误导性陈述或者重大遗漏的违法行为，定格处罚为60万元，2020年3月3日之后新版《中华人民共和国证券法》正式实施，定格处罚升至1000万元。”\n\n瑞幸咖啡涉嫌故意进行证券欺诈\n依据美国2002年颁布的《萨班斯法案》，一旦提供不实财报、故意进行证券欺诈被坐实，公司要被顶格处罚2500万美元，这意味着瑞幸在中美两国恐都面临千万级罚金。\n陆正耀同样面临高额罚金。\n\n 《中华人民共和国刑法》第161条规定，对依法应当披露的其他重要信息不按照规定披露，严重损害股东或者其他人利益，或者有其他严重情节的，对其直接负责的主管人员和其他直接责任人员，处三年以下有期徒刑或者拘役，并处或者单处二万元以上二十万元以下罚金；根据新版《中华人民共和国证券法》，控股股东或实际控制人最高可处以1000万元罚款，“根据《萨班斯法案》，相关高管要被判处10~25年的监禁以及最高500万美元的罚金。”\n\n从这个角度来看，陆正耀在中美两国恐都面临牢狱之灾，不过周玉婕表示也有变数存在：“实践中，控股股东或实际控制人没有参与实际经营与管理，也没有直接实施或者参与财务造假，就不用承担相应的刑事责任。”\n因此，问题的关键在于“陆正耀对于公司财务造假的指令性电子邮件”是否真实存在，一旦实锤，身为第一大股东拥有36.86%投票表决权、曾经担任提名及公司治理委员会主席的陆正耀就难辞其咎，其余的相关董监高、审计机构都会被追责。\n投资者境内也可起诉\n陆正耀的责任尚待最终确认，但投资者的损失却是明晰的。\n一名互联网观察人士表示：“退市听证会只不过起到延缓的作用，瑞幸被摘牌几无悬念，投资者的真金白银恐付之东流。”\n事实上，早在2020年4月初美国专业集体诉讼服务机构Bronstein, Gewirtz & 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