$特斯拉(TSLA)_老虎社区_美港股上老虎

2020-09-19

$特斯拉(TSLA)$分享一下我的备兑期权开仓策略，我认为白捡钱的一种适合于长期投资者的交易策略。

当前我持有1200股特斯拉正股，账户现金余额是0，我自己允许自己杠杆到30%。刚刚我卖了12手10.30到期的700 call，得到现金23000+，之后又卖了3手10.31到期300Put，得到现金4000左右，这样我直接得到27000现金，只要10.30之前股票在300到700之间波动，这钱就稳了。

危险情况有两种，第一，股票在10.31之前涨过700，这时我Put的4000就稳稳入袋同时只要我不平仓我卖的call那么24000也会是我的，同时系统会在10.30以700每股平仓我的1200股特斯拉，我可以获利840000+27000=867000清仓离场。

第二种，股票在10.30之前跌下300，系统会平仓我的3手put帮我以300每股买入300股特斯拉股票，实际花费90000-27000(我卖call 和put的钱)=63000。没有超过我30%的杠杆率。

三种情况我都可以欣然接受，所以这27000的备兑期权开仓收益在我心中属于白捡的，但是在10.30之前我不可以动我的正股否则会非常危险，或者非常麻烦，分享给大家这个交易策略。

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牛菲特教授
2020-09-19
牛菲特教授
学习了我也是类似操作不过没想到还可以卖300的put。不过这个逻辑里面，存在一个最大的风险，就是正股的下跌，如果跌倒300一下用put抄底，实际上此时正股已经发生了较大亏损或者利润回撤。
卖call的钱是对冲不了的
这种逻辑只能说是对于长线投资的是友好的，算一种额外的利润扩展
- 进击的兔兔wei回复时刻谨记不亏比盈利更重要:
  put是啥喔
- 才神:
  特别情况一定会出现，就像这次的病毒，支持你的观点
- 哈喽阿特:
  这么说吧，对我来说不管特斯拉出啥大新闻，但凡跌300以下了，除非新闻是马斯克出车祸gua了，其他情况只要下300对我来说都是白给钱
- 时刻谨记不亏比盈利更重要:
  他说的前提是长期坚定看好并持有，这样才可以
8fab76f
2020-09-24
8fab76f
假设你的1200股是380美元买的。(姑且假设你是380开的备兑仓，没啥本质影响，再假设不提前平仓)

权利金收入提供27000/1200美元的下行保护约23。因此10.30日，股价大于 380-27=353，组合赚钱
理想380到700，权利金股票都赚
大于700了，备兑call限制利润，但大于700不太可能。
小于300，sell put也开始亏。但你说股价低于300就认为是买入机会，那就ok
- 哈喽阿特:
  牛逼啊兄弟，列出来了都
- 8fab76f回复哈喽阿特:
  可以的，这么早就看好持有
- 哈喽阿特:
  我股票建仓价按拆股后应该是50一股
玫瑰0205
2020-09-21
玫瑰0205
卖期权要时刻观察日内风控值是否变负数，日内风控值是自从你卖了期权就变小小，除非股价波动不大，但特斯拉股价波动大，所以日内风控值波动非常大，只要变负数，就算没到期，客服说期权和正股系统随时平仓，假如系统平仓肯定是股价还没到700，有可能600，就平掉一些。特斯拉只要股价浮动大，接近一个行权价，日内风控值分分钟变负数，尤其是数量大于10手的，逼着你自动平一些的。
- 哈喽阿特:
  你用老虎我就不知道了
- 玫瑰0205回复哈喽阿特:
  你之前操作过的时候看过日内风控值吗？我这个老虎账户也有不少正股，上周我也卖了期权，周五到期，赚了两万多刀，周五我日内风控值从十万到负五千多，反正老虎客服告诉我日内风控值小于0，系统随机平仓正股或期权，我就平了那些已经盈利95%以上的期权。我卖了450、480、490的call，卖了380的PUT，虽然股价在这期间，但是不能保证风控制不是负数，假如客服骗我系统实际不会平仓的话，那没什么风险。
- 哈喽阿特:
  不会的，你的计算有问题，我1200股正股在不到700不可能平我12手call，股价波动的同时我持有的正股也在波动，你自己再想想
哈喽阿特
2020-09-19
哈喽阿特
如果股价超过700一股，我被系统平仓了，我会获得867000美金现金，我会马上转手卖下个月底300一股或者400一股的期权，卖多少呢？直接用867000除以行权价，就卖这么多，这样如果股价回去了我可以以被强制行权的方法抄底，如果股价回不去我会持续卖这种put获利
- 哈喽阿特回复华尔街小街:
  有的，特斯拉这个股就有，你不信周一开盘你去看下200的期权，再者说，如果系统用700平仓我的正股，那么我卖低于700的期权都是赚的，690，650.600.500都可以，只不过价格越高我越容易抄到底并且卖期权赚的钱也就越多，这个到时候看情况选，400只是举个例子
- 华尔街小街:
  都超过700了，卖出300的期权有成交量吗？
- 哈喽阿特回复时刻谨记不亏比盈利更重要:
  哈哈哈我觉得是，但是我抄特斯拉不怕抄腰上，只要能抄到就赚到，长期无限看涨
- 时刻谨记不亏比盈利更重要回复哈喽阿特:
  会不会抄在腰上，之前他抄航空股的底，是不是就这么抄腰上了
- 哈喽阿特回复时刻谨记不亏比盈利更重要:
  之前听说巴菲特老爷子所有的抄底都是用卖put的形式完成的
时刻谨记不亏比盈利更重要
2020-09-19
时刻谨记不亏比盈利更重要
我的做法主要是卖出短期、行权价较为接近的Call，原理跟你的差不多，只是我的策略更频繁些，容易根据市场情况调整。
- XLH回复熊猫无畏:
  是啊，楼主为我打开了一扇门，很多以前没弄明白的，都豁然开朗
- 熊猫无畏回复XLH:
  这个要配合要配合正股做，单卖期权风险很大，正股是你长期看好现在又处于低位的最好
- XLH回复熊猫无畏:
  可以，没有好的标的、者市场处于振荡期时这个操作很爽啊
- 熊猫无畏回复XLH:
  我实践了下，不要
- XLH回复熊猫无畏:
  同问对应数量的正股，卖call不要保证金吗？
XLH
2020-09-24
XLH
以下2点是我的推断，想请教下是否如此：
1.按这个操作卖put在保证金不足的情况下会被强制清仓。
2.保证1200正股不交易的情况下，卖出的700元call价格即使翻倍涨，只要不到行权日，都不会出现被强制平仓的事情
- XLH回复哈喽阿特:
  多谢 [强] [强] [强]
- 哈喽阿特:
  对的，有正股就不会被提前平仓

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