上行
2020-01-01
$蔚来(NIO)$
个人认为可以短期做空蔚来，一是股价飙升太快，价格虚高；二是国产特斯拉将大规模交付，三是蔚来还在巨额亏损，毛利率为负。
免责声明：上述内容仅代表发帖人个人观点，不构成本平台的任何投资建议。
分享至
微信
复制链接
精彩评论
Rock2
2020-01-01
Rock2
你自己先做空，把单晒出来，大家才相信你，和你一起做空
上行
回复
Rock2
:
我说的做空风险高于做多是指短期做空蔚来的风险要高于长期做多蔚来，而之所以风险高还要做空的原因一是我认为蔚来股价近期会回调至3美金左右；二是长期做多虽然风险低，但投资回报慢时间成本高，且很容易被套住；三是这种投资逻辑适合资金少持股少的小玩家，小玩家持股量少，长期做多，哪怕股价上涨翻倍获利也不多，而时间成本却很高，所以只有快进快出的炒股方式小玩家才有机会在短时间内把盘子做大，但也意味着要承担更大的风险
Rock2
回复
上行
:
你的逻辑就有问题了，明知做空风险比做多高，为什么还要鼓励做空？投资就是要寻找大概率事件，你选择小概率事件好不如去澳门赌大小，结果还来的快点
上行
:
发帖只是为了表达我自己的观点，而不是为了让你们相信我，和我一起做空。而且做空蔚来的风险远比做多蔚来的风险高，不是谁都能玩得起的
纳斯达克没有底
2020-01-01
纳斯达克没有底
无脑言论，市场那么大，特斯拉才能占多少
上行
回复
操作要有逻辑
:
投机没什么不好，问题在于是否能利益最大化
操作要有逻辑
回复
上行
:
你这是彻底的投机手法
上行
:
特斯拉自然不能占完整个市场，但会像条鲶鱼一样扰动市场，造成市场短期波动，别低估了特斯拉的影响力。而且我说的是短期做空蔚来，长期还是看涨蔚来 个人认为现在可以做空蔚来，一月底再改为做多
操作要有逻辑
2020-01-01
操作要有逻辑
特斯拉不亏损，现在700亿美金，你敢上吗
上行
:
特斯拉1000亿美金只是时间问题
弋痕夕的老师
2020-01-01
弋痕夕的老师
“个人认为”？忽悠你自己就行了，就别发出来忽悠别人了
上行
:
说不说是我的事，认不认同是你的事
操作要有逻辑
2020-01-01
操作要有逻辑
蔚来汽车还要连续亏损好几年呢，刚性投入还需要几百亿，这都需要融资，想过吗，但这不影响企业价值走高，股价走高
自由的微风
:
是的，特斯拉在中国建厂 不是也一样要贷款上百亿，去年还一样在融资好几十亿，但也没影响公司市值
自由的微风
2020-01-01
自由的微风
蔚来手握大定数量可以支配单月 交付数量，短期销售数据持续向好，并且目前来看Es 6的质量和市场认可度，确实会成为全球最好的，所以并不看好你的观点！
查看全部19条评论
APP内打开
发表看法
19
9
1
{"i18n":{"language":"zh_CN"},"detailType":1,"isChannel":false,"data":{"magic":2,"id":913774536,"tweetId":"913774536","gmtCreate":1577855870625,"gmtModify":1704336509569,"author":{"id":3519166704833833,"idStr":"3519166704833833","authorId":3519166704833833,"authorIdStr":"3519166704833833","name":"上行","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"userType":1,"introduction":"","boolIsFan":false,"boolIsHead":false,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[],"fanSize":0,"starInvestorFlag":false},"themes":[],"images":[],"coverImages":[],"extraTitle":"","html":"<html><head></head><body> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">$蔚来(NIO)$</a>个人认为可以短期做空蔚来，一是股价飙升太快，价格虚高；二是国产特斯拉将大规模交付，三是蔚来还在巨额亏损，毛利率为负。</body></html>","htmlText":"<html><head></head><body> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">$蔚来(NIO)$</a>个人认为可以短期做空蔚来，一是股价飙升太快，价格虚高；二是国产特斯拉将大规模交付，三是蔚来还在巨额亏损，毛利率为负。</body></html>","text":"$蔚来(NIO)$个人认为可以短期做空蔚来，一是股价飙升太快，价格虚高；二是国产特斯拉将大规模交付，三是蔚来还在巨额亏损，毛利率为负。","highlighted":2,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":9,"commentSize":19,"repostSize":1,"favoriteSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/913774536","repostId":0,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":4764,"commentLimit":10,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"symbols":["NIO"],"verified":2,"subType":0,"readableState":1,"langContent":"CN","currentLanguage":"CN","warmUpFlag":false,"orderFlag":false,"shareable":true,"causeOfNotShareable":"","featuresForAnalytics":[],"commentAndTweetFlag":false,"andRepostAutoSelectedFlag":false,"upFlag":false,"length":121,"xxTargetLangEnum":"ZH_CN"},"commentList":[{"id":2039336,"commentId":"2039336","gmtCreate":1577859088754,"gmtModify":1577859088754,"authorId":3538017896583926,"author":{"id":3538017896583926,"idStr":"3538017896583926","authorId":3538017896583926,"name":"Rock2","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":913774536,"objectIdStr":"913774536","type":1,"supId":0,"supIdStr":"0","prevId":0,"prevIdStr":"0","content":"你自己先做空，把单晒出来，大家才相信你，和你一起做空","text":"你自己先做空，把单晒出来，大家才相信你，和你一起做空","html":"你自己先做空，把单晒出来，大家才相信你，和你一起做空","likeSize":1,"commentSize":3,"subComments":[{"id":2039552,"commentId":"2039552","gmtCreate":1577878006363,"gmtModify":1577878006363,"authorId":3519166704833833,"author":{"id":3519166704833833,"idStr":"3519166704833833","authorId":3519166704833833,"name":"上行","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":3538017896583926,"repliedAuthor":{"id":3538017896583926,"idStr":"3538017896583926","authorId":3538017896583926,"name":"Rock2","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"objectId":913774536,"objectIdStr":"913774536","type":1,"supId":2039336,"supIdStr":"2039336","prevId":2039387,"prevIdStr":"2039387","content":"我说的做空风险高于做多是指短期做空蔚来的风险要高于长期做多蔚来，而之所以风险高还要做空的原因一是我认为蔚来股价近期会回调至3美金左右；二是长期做多虽然风险低，但投资回报慢时间成本高，且很容易被套住；三是这种投资逻辑适合资金少持股少的小玩家，小玩家持股量少，长期做多，哪怕股价上涨翻倍获利也不多，而时间成本却很高，所以只有快进快出的炒股方式小玩家才有机会在短时间内把盘子做大，但也意味着要承担更大的风险","text":"我说的做空风险高于做多是指短期做空蔚来的风险要高于长期做多蔚来，而之所以风险高还要做空的原因一是我认为蔚来股价近期会回调至3美金左右；二是长期做多虽然风险低，但投资回报慢时间成本高，且很容易被套住；三是这种投资逻辑适合资金少持股少的小玩家，小玩家持股量少，长期做多，哪怕股价上涨翻倍获利也不多，而时间成本却很高，所以只有快进快出的炒股方式小玩家才有机会在短时间内把盘子做大，但也意味着要承担更大的风险","html":"我说的做空风险高于做多是指短期做空蔚来的风险要高于长期做多蔚来，而之所以风险高还要做空的原因一是我认为蔚来股价近期会回调至3美金左右；二是长期做多虽然风险低，但投资回报慢时间成本高，且很容易被套住；三是这种投资逻辑适合资金少持股少的小玩家，小玩家持股量少，长期做多，哪怕股价上涨翻倍获利也不多，而时间成本却很高，所以只有快进快出的炒股方式小玩家才有机会在短时间内把盘子做大，但也意味着要承担更大的风险"},{"id":2039387,"commentId":"2039387","gmtCreate":1577864667713,"gmtModify":1577864667713,"authorId":3538017896583926,"author":{"id":3538017896583926,"idStr":"3538017896583926","authorId":3538017896583926,"name":"Rock2","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":3519166704833833,"repliedAuthor":{"id":3519166704833833,"idStr":"3519166704833833","authorId":3519166704833833,"name":"上行","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"objectId":913774536,"objectIdStr":"913774536","type":1,"supId":2039336,"supIdStr":"2039336","prevId":2039347,"prevIdStr":"2039347","content":"你的逻辑就有问题了，明知做空风险比做多高，为什么还要鼓励做空？投资就是要寻找大概率事件，你选择小概率事件好不如去澳门赌大小，结果还来的快点","text":"你的逻辑就有问题了，明知做空风险比做多高，为什么还要鼓励做空？投资就是要寻找大概率事件，你选择小概率事件好不如去澳门赌大小，结果还来的快点","html":"你的逻辑就有问题了，明知做空风险比做多高，为什么还要鼓励做空？投资就是要寻找大概率事件，你选择小概率事件好不如去澳门赌大小，结果还来的快点"},{"id":2039347,"commentId":"2039347","gmtCreate":1577859788187,"gmtModify":1577859788187,"authorId":3519166704833833,"author":{"id":3519166704833833,"idStr":"3519166704833833","authorId":3519166704833833,"name":"上行","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":913774536,"objectIdStr":"913774536","type":1,"supId":2039336,"supIdStr":"2039336","prevId":0,"prevIdStr":"0","content":"发帖只是为了表达我自己的观点，而不是为了让你们相信我，和我一起做空。而且做空蔚来的风险远比做多蔚来的风险高，不是谁都能玩得起的","text":"发帖只是为了表达我自己的观点，而不是为了让你们相信我，和我一起做空。而且做空蔚来的风险远比做多蔚来的风险高，不是谁都能玩得起的","html":"发帖只是为了表达我自己的观点，而不是为了让你们相信我，和我一起做空。而且做空蔚来的风险远比做多蔚来的风险高，不是谁都能玩得起的"}],"verified":10,"allocateAmount":0,"commentType":"valid","coins":0,"score":0},{"id":2039317,"commentId":"2039317","gmtCreate":1577857589007,"gmtModify":1577857589007,"authorId":3466127012802514,"author":{"id":3466127012802514,"idStr":"3466127012802514","authorId":3466127012802514,"name":"纳斯达克没有底","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":913774536,"objectIdStr":"913774536","type":1,"supId":0,"supIdStr":"0","prevId":0,"prevIdStr":"0","content":"无脑言论，市场那么大，特斯拉才能占多少<br>","text":"无脑言论，市场那么大，特斯拉才能占多少<br>","html":"无脑言论，市场那么大，特斯拉才能占多少<br>","likeSize":0,"commentSize":3,"subComments":[{"id":2039624,"commentId":"2039624","gmtCreate":1577883732662,"gmtModify":1577883732662,"authorId":3519166704833833,"author":{"id":3519166704833833,"idStr":"3519166704833833","authorId":3519166704833833,"name":"上行","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":3495752843397571,"repliedAuthor":{"id":3495752843397571,"idStr":"3495752843397571","authorId":3495752843397571,"name":"操作要有逻辑","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"objectId":913774536,"objectIdStr":"913774536","type":1,"supId":2039317,"supIdStr":"2039317","prevId":2039584,"prevIdStr":"2039584","content":"投机没什么不好，问题在于是否能利益最大化","text":"投机没什么不好，问题在于是否能利益最大化","html":"投机没什么不好，问题在于是否能利益最大化"},{"id":2039584,"commentId":"2039584","gmtCreate":1577880468905,"gmtModify":1577880468905,"authorId":3495752843397571,"author":{"id":3495752843397571,"idStr":"3495752843397571","authorId":3495752843397571,"name":"操作要有逻辑","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":3519166704833833,"repliedAuthor":{"id":3519166704833833,"idStr":"3519166704833833","authorId":3519166704833833,"name":"上行","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"objectId":913774536,"objectIdStr":"913774536","type":1,"supId":2039317,"supIdStr":"2039317","prevId":2039323,"prevIdStr":"2039323","content":"你这是彻底的投机手法","text":"你这是彻底的投机手法","html":"你这是彻底的投机手法"},{"id":2039323,"commentId":"2039323","gmtCreate":1577858199677,"gmtModify":1577858199677,"authorId":3519166704833833,"author":{"id":3519166704833833,"idStr":"3519166704833833","authorId":3519166704833833,"name":"上行","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":913774536,"objectIdStr":"913774536","type":1,"supId":2039317,"supIdStr":"2039317","prevId":0,"prevIdStr":"0","content":"特斯拉自然不能占完整个市场，但会像条鲶鱼一样扰动市场，造成市场短期波动，别低估了特斯拉的影响力。而且我说的是短期做空蔚来，长期还是看涨蔚来 个人认为现在可以做空蔚来，一月底再改为做多","text":"特斯拉自然不能占完整个市场，但会像条鲶鱼一样扰动市场，造成市场短期波动，别低估了特斯拉的影响力。而且我说的是短期做空蔚来，长期还是看涨蔚来 个人认为现在可以做空蔚来，一月底再改为做多","html":"特斯拉自然不能占完整个市场，但会像条鲶鱼一样扰动市场，造成市场短期波动，别低估了特斯拉的影响力。而且我说的是短期做空蔚来，长期还是看涨蔚来 个人认为现在可以做空蔚来，一月底再改为做多"}],"verified":10,"allocateAmount":0,"commentType":"valid","coins":0,"score":0},{"id":2039572,"commentId":"2039572","gmtCreate":1577879810208,"gmtModify":1577879810208,"authorId":3495752843397571,"author":{"id":3495752843397571,"idStr":"3495752843397571","authorId":3495752843397571,"name":"操作要有逻辑","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":913774536,"objectIdStr":"913774536","type":1,"supId":0,"supIdStr":"0","prevId":0,"prevIdStr":"0","content":"特斯拉不亏损，现在700亿美金，你敢上吗","text":"特斯拉不亏损，现在700亿美金，你敢上吗","html":"特斯拉不亏损，现在700亿美金，你敢上吗","likeSize":0,"commentSize":1,"subComments":[{"id":2039625,"commentId":"2039625","gmtCreate":1577883771576,"gmtModify":1577883771576,"authorId":3519166704833833,"author":{"id":3519166704833833,"idStr":"3519166704833833","authorId":3519166704833833,"name":"上行","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":913774536,"objectIdStr":"913774536","type":1,"supId":2039572,"supIdStr":"2039572","prevId":0,"prevIdStr":"0","content":"特斯拉1000亿美金只是时间问题","text":"特斯拉1000亿美金只是时间问题","html":"特斯拉1000亿美金只是时间问题"}],"verified":10,"allocateAmount":0,"commentType":"valid","coins":0,"score":0},{"id":2039320,"commentId":"2039320","gmtCreate":1577858129582,"gmtModify":1577858129582,"authorId":3491032311882415,"author":{"id":3491032311882415,"idStr":"3491032311882415","authorId":3491032311882415,"name":"弋痕夕的老师","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":913774536,"objectIdStr":"913774536","type":1,"supId":0,"supIdStr":"0","prevId":0,"prevIdStr":"0","content":"“个人认为”？忽悠你自己就行了，就别发出来忽悠别人了","text":"“个人认为”？忽悠你自己就行了，就别发出来忽悠别人了","html":"“个人认为”？忽悠你自己就行了，就别发出来忽悠别人了","likeSize":0,"commentSize":1,"subComments":[{"id":2039325,"commentId":"2039325","gmtCreate":1577858464478,"gmtModify":1577858464478,"authorId":3519166704833833,"author":{"id":3519166704833833,"idStr":"3519166704833833","authorId":3519166704833833,"name":"上行","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":913774536,"objectIdStr":"913774536","type":1,"supId":2039320,"supIdStr":"2039320","prevId":0,"prevIdStr":"0","content":"说不说是我的事，认不认同是你的事","text":"说不说是我的事，认不认同是你的事","html":"说不说是我的事，认不认同是你的事"}],"verified":10,"allocateAmount":0,"commentType":"valid","coins":0,"score":0},{"id":2039578,"commentId":"2039578","gmtCreate":1577879982787,"gmtModify":1577879982787,"authorId":3495752843397571,"author":{"id":3495752843397571,"idStr":"3495752843397571","authorId":3495752843397571,"name":"操作要有逻辑","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":913774536,"objectIdStr":"913774536","type":1,"supId":0,"supIdStr":"0","prevId":0,"prevIdStr":"0","content":"蔚来汽车还要连续亏损好几年呢，刚性投入还需要几百亿，这都需要融资，想过吗，但这不影响企业价值走高，股价走高","text":"蔚来汽车还要连续亏损好几年呢，刚性投入还需要几百亿，这都需要融资，想过吗，但这不影响企业价值走高，股价走高","html":"蔚来汽车还要连续亏损好几年呢，刚性投入还需要几百亿，这都需要融资，想过吗，但这不影响企业价值走高，股价走高","likeSize":0,"commentSize":1,"subComments":[{"id":2039737,"commentId":"2039737","gmtCreate":1577891818242,"gmtModify":1577891818242,"authorId":3500494053551917,"author":{"id":3500494053551917,"idStr":"3500494053551917","authorId":3500494053551917,"name":"自由的微风","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fe77a5a1579b9370ab331985744afe8","vip":1,"crmLevel":9,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":913774536,"objectIdStr":"913774536","type":1,"supId":2039578,"supIdStr":"2039578","prevId":0,"prevIdStr":"0","content":"是的，特斯拉在中国建厂 不是也一样要贷款上百亿，去年还一样在融资好几十亿，但也没影响公司市值","text":"是的，特斯拉在中国建厂 不是也一样要贷款上百亿，去年还一样在融资好几十亿，但也没影响公司市值","html":"是的，特斯拉在中国建厂 不是也一样要贷款上百亿，去年还一样在融资好几十亿，但也没影响公司市值"}],"verified":10,"allocateAmount":0,"commentType":"valid","coins":0,"score":0},{"id":2039740,"commentId":"2039740","gmtCreate":1577892235053,"gmtModify":1577892235053,"authorId":3500494053551917,"author":{"id":3500494053551917,"idStr":"3500494053551917","authorId":3500494053551917,"name":"自由的微风","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3fe77a5a1579b9370ab331985744afe8","vip":1,"crmLevel":9,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":913774536,"objectIdStr":"913774536","type":1,"supId":0,"supIdStr":"0","prevId":0,"prevIdStr":"0","content":"蔚来手握大定数量可以支配单月 交付数量，短期销售数据持续向好，并且目前来看Es 6的质量和市场认可度，确实会成为全球最好的，所以并不看好你的观点！","text":"蔚来手握大定数量可以支配单月 交付数量，短期销售数据持续向好，并且目前来看Es 6的质量和市场认可度，确实会成为全球最好的，所以并不看好你的观点！","html":"蔚来手握大定数量可以支配单月 交付数量，短期销售数据持续向好，并且目前来看Es 6的质量和市场认可度，确实会成为全球最好的，所以并不看好你的观点！","likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"subComments":[],"verified":10,"allocateAmount":0,"commentType":"valid","coins":0,"score":0}],"isCommentEnd":false,"isTiger":false,"isWeiXinMini":false,"url":"/m/post/913774536"}
精彩评论