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2021-10-09

Limited earning growth? Seriously? We’ve only seen the start of Apple Silicon, with many more following up next.

And how can you compare Apple to FB and Google if you are the one to say that they are only financially similar to 20% of Apple’s services business? What about the other 80%? Thatbig chunk does nothing to justify Apple havinga bigger PE?

Apple Stock Will Struggle From Here, Analyst Cautions. Here’s Why.

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李苗苗
2021-10-09
李苗苗
为什么要限制营收增长速度呢？请问有更详细的消息分享一下吗？看着不是很明白~
PSG2010
2021-10-11
PSG2010
These three companies are different in nature, so it's hard to compare
东营天地人和
2021-10-09
东营天地人和
这三家公司本质上不同的，很难单方面的做出比较
纯天然绿色学渣
2021-10-09
纯天然绿色学渣
苹果的PE主要还是依赖与他的销售方面

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