Apple Stock Will Struggle From Here, Analyst Cautions. Here’s Why.

Barrons2021-10-08

Trigger warning for Apple bulls: I’m about to address the case for caution on the stock. Bernstein analyst Toni Sacconaghi lays out the case in a research note on Thursday. He focus on the most basic ...

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Bull_Lion
2021-10-09
Bull_Lion
Easy for this dude to make comments without having to back it up with any facts
Shooperman
2021-10-09
Shooperman
Limited earning growth? Seriously? We’ve only seen the start of Apple Silicon, with many more following up next.And how can you compare Apple to FB and Google if you are the one to say that they are only financially similar to 20% of Apple’s services business? What about the other 80%? Thatbig chunk does nothing to justify Apple havinga bigger PE?
- Shooperman:
  是作者说苹果的营收没有增长空间，我不同意，🍎的新M1系列晶片刚刚问世，在电脑、平面版、手机还有大把市场可以拿下。
- PSG2010:
  These three companies are different in nature, so it's hard to compare
- 纯天然绿色学渣:
  苹果的PE主要还是依赖与他的销售方面
- 东营天地人和:
  这三家公司本质上不同的，很难单方面的做出比较
- 李苗苗:
  为什么要限制营收增长速度呢？请问有更详细的消息分享一下吗？看着不是很明白~
Gaga71
2021-10-09
Gaga71
Go Apple!
NG1970
2021-10-08
NG1970
New innovation coming
Caffiend
2021-10-08
Caffiend
apple will come out with new products and services
CCCH
2021-10-08
CCCH
If Apple products selling well, don't have to worry , the price may up further

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