Better Buy: Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) vs. Intel

Leo Sun2021-04-01

Intel and AMD, which hold a near-duopoly in x86 CPUs for PCs and servers, have treated investors very differently over the past three years. During that time, Intel's stock price rose nearly 25% but ...

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EdInvesting
2021-04-06
EdInvesting
Please get your fact on shortages rights. TSMC is not able to keep up with the demand and the shortage is at them and not Intel.
Fynn_SG
2021-04-05
Fynn_SG
Buy amd
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Hipposaurus
2021-04-03
Hipposaurus
Good
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  aa
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  aa
IcySilver
2021-04-02
IcySilver
Sounds like $AMD(AMD)$has a better gameplan in this competition
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- Hipposaurus:
  yes
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  yup
木吉蒂
2021-04-02
木吉蒂
At current PE 30+ & with Earnings expected to jump 50%+, the fwd PE will be in 20s. Not too hi, depending on whether they can continue to grow earnings at this pace
- KinKat:
  [惊讶]
MoneyCub
2021-04-02
MoneyCub
AMD awesome!

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AMD launched its first 7nm CPUs back in 2019, and it will likely launch its first 5nm chips in 2022.\nProfitability and valuations\nAfter Intel's former CEO Brian Krzanich resigned in 2018, CFO Bob Swan took the helm and mainly focused on cutting costs and repurchasing shares instead of resolving Intel's R&D problems.\nMeanwhile, AMD continued to generate explosive earnings growth without relying on buybacks or cost-cutting measures. Instead, it reinvested most of its cash back into the development of its new chips.\n\n\n\n\nEPS Growth (YOY)\n2018\n2019\n2020\n\n\nIntel\n32%\n6%\n9%\n\n\nAMD\n360%\n39%\n102%\n\n\n\nData source: Annual reports. YOY = year over year. Non-GAAP.\nIntel's new CEO, Pat Gelsinger, is trying to get the chipmaker back on the right track, but that process could take years.\nAMD's CEO, Lisa Su, has led the chipmaker's ongoing turnaround since 2014. Su's main strategies, which include the expansion of AMD's gaming console business and the development of new chips that address the performance issues of prior generations, will continue to cause headaches for Intel.\nAnalysts expect Intel's revenue and earnings to decline 7% and 13%, respectively, this year. Those dismal growth rates indicate Intel's stock still can't be considered cheap at 14 times forward earnings.\nWall Street expects AMD's revenue and earnings to jump 38% and 53%, respectively, this year. Those growth rates easily justify its higher forward P/E ratio of 31. We should always be skeptical of analysts' forecasts, but AMD clearly looks like a much healthier investment than Intel.\nThe winner: AMD\nIntel's low valuation and forward dividend yield of 2.1% might limit its downside potential, but I believe it will underperform AMD again this year. 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