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Mickeyperk
10-23
至少能涨到65刀, 原因是一旦川普当上总统,媒体和信息会导致这个公司的业务和完全不一样了。估值不可限量啊
Mickeyperk
10-23
$特朗普媒体科技集团(DJT)$
川大必胜
Mickeyperk
10-22
$特朗普媒体科技集团(DJT)$
坚决长期持有 一旦特朗普当选总统,那这个媒体集团就有了前所未有的资源,业务还会是现在这个样子嘛?
Mickeyperk
10-16
特朗普科技集团
$特朗普媒体科技集团(DJT)$
Mickeyperk
03-20
腾讯肯定是先涨后跌。高开低走
Mickeyperk
02-22
英伟达将高开低走,于710元左右收盘。
Mickeyperk
02-21
英伟达毕竟是制造业公司,无法永远保持市场占有率和暴利,财报后应跌5%-10%
Mickeyperk
2023-05-31
$恒生指数(HSI)$
大家都看空,所以我看涨!
Mickeyperk
2022-09-21
$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$
个人认为,会大涨。因为加息75个基点已经被提前消化了。这时候就是利空出尽。
Mickeyperk
2022-09-15
$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$
继续做空
Mickeyperk
2022-09-07
$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$
中概是否跌的太厉害了?这正是捡筹码的机会呀!
Mickeyperk
2022-09-07
$RLX科技(RLX)$
未来的隐患是啥?
Mickeyperk
2022-09-06
你给巴菲特不在一个轨道上。巴菲特是研究未来资金回报率,他认为比亚迪的资金回报率太低了。而你研究的是世界大格局,如何下一盘棋。哪一个更实际一些?
巴菲特减持比亚迪,无关大局
Mickeyperk
2022-08-15
$理想汽车(LI)$
不知道财报会议进行的怎么样?英语不太好。
Mickeyperk
2022-04-12
$RLX科技(RLX)$
市场监管总局发的这个标准。大家觉得是利好吧吗?我看了一下没有任何利好。其中有一条是以前没看到的。说里面的烟点必须使用烟草中提纯的尼古丁。这应该是巨大利空啊。
Mickeyperk
2022-03-15
$理想汽车(LI)$
如果公司在美股被动退市,我们手里的股票怎么办?
Mickeyperk
2022-03-11
$RLX科技(RLX)$
在哪里听财报啊?怎么没有链接呢?
Mickeyperk
2022-03-03
$RLX科技(RLX)$
为什么突然大跌?什么情况?请高手指点一下。
Mickeyperk
2022-02-24
$Faraday Future(FFIE)$
感觉这款车还是很漂亮的。但是不知为啥他开出来的时候速度开得很慢。而且小心翼翼的。似乎有些地方不太成熟。但这个判断也可能是个人的,没有根据。
Mickeyperk
2022-01-18
$理想汽车(LI)$
理想汽车最近要涨。有逆势上涨的感觉。我预感有机构正在进入。统一的点赞。
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href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/601857\">中国石油</a>产量为2亿吨,进口量为5.13亿吨,对外依存度达72%。中国石油消费量占世界的16.4%、进口量占世界石油贸易量的26.4%。</p><p>2021年,我国汽车消耗汽油约1.19亿吨。按1吨原油提炼0.256吨汽油计算,满足汽车消耗需要4.65亿吨原油。占石油进口量的90.7%!</p><p>综上所述,中国石油对外依存度超过70%,进口石油的90%被汽车烧掉。截至2022年5月底,全国汽车保有量3.07亿辆,新能源汽车保有量约1000万辆,仅占汽车总量的3.25%。不论从碳中和还是从能源安全角度,中国都要大力推广新能源车,而且越快越好。</p><p>2021年,中<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/600617\">国新能源</a>汽车产量为327.8万辆,销量352.1万辆,渗透率13.4%。这一年,中国石油进口量首次出现下降,幅度为5.4%。影响因素很多,新能源车保有量增长必在其中。</p><p>有人认为“新能源车渗透率超过30%,增速会放缓”。其实,只有当新能源车渗透率超过50%,对燃油车的替代进程才会开始。</p><p>一两个巴菲特丝毫不会动摇我们的决心。</p><p>有人将巴菲特此次减持与当年清仓<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PTR\">中石油</a>相提并论。中石油受国际油价影响,业绩波动幅度很大。清仓那年(2007年),中石油归母净利润1468亿,2016年仅为78.6亿,2017年回升到228亿,2021年922亿,2022年H1高达824亿。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/942c204b23463a3eb171e921547036c0\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"309\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>中石油与比亚迪没有可比性,何况一个处于将要被替代的传统能源领域,另一个是将要替代传统能源的新能源领域。</p><p>无关比亚迪行业地位</p><p>比亚迪有两张“王牌”:纯电/插混“两条腿”和深度整合产业链。全球新能源车玩家,不论<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>还是“油改电”的传统汽车厂商,更不要提“新势力”(包括华为),没有谁兼具这两张牌,难以阻挡比亚迪称雄。</p><p>1)纯电、混动两条腿走路</p><p>2020年,比亚迪新能源车累计销售19万台;Q4纯电、插混销量分别为5.3万台、2.3万台;</p><p>2021年,比亚迪新能源车累计销量60.4万台,同比增长218%;Q4纯电、插混销量分别为12.7万台、13.6万台,同比增速分别为158%、464%;</p><p>2022年H1,比亚迪新能源车销量63.8万台,超过2021全年;其中纯电、混动销量分别为32.4万台、31.5万台,已经平分秋色;</p><p>2022年7月、8月两月,混动销量达17.3万台,反超纯电动车。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ec5c15480a2bbbf5822b0de74507802d\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"293\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>越来越多的人认识到纯电动车不是最终解决方案(有可能是氢能源),因为化学电池能量密度再怎样提高也只有汽油、液氢的零头。</p><p>特斯拉21700电芯能量密度为247Wh/Kg,高调推出的4680电芯体积是21700的5.48倍、能量提升5倍,能量密度几乎没有变化。在电池结构上大作文章,说明提高能量密度的空间已基本不存在。</p><p>纯电动与插电混动都是过渡方案,后者有三大优势:</p><p>一是不受充电桩推广进度制约。</p><p>截至2022年7月,纯电动车保有量、充电桩总数分别为844万台、398万台(其中公共充电桩158万台,私人充电桩240万台),车桩比为2.1(844/398)。</p><p>如此笼统计算难以反映车主真实境遇:</p><p>604万台没有“私桩”的车主,只有158万台公共充电桩可用,车桩比为3.8;</p><p>240万“桩主”,不会让他人使用私桩,还时不时要使用公桩(开车出门不能带着私桩)。假设240万台车使用公共充电桩的概率为10%,相当于24万台无私桩车,这样算出的车桩比接近4.0。</p><p>2022年前7个月,纯电动车销量196万台,新增充电桩136万台,两者相差60万台。已经制约纯电动车推广的“充电难”,将会越来越难。</p><p>二是大幅降低对锂、镍、钴等金属的依赖</p><p>纯电动车续航里程约为插电混动车的4~5倍,电池容量、消耗的资源也是后者的4~5倍。</p><p>例如,比亚迪宋PLUS(插电混动版)纯电续航110公里、电池容量18.3kWh;<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">蔚来</a>ES6续航610公里、电池容量100kWh;特斯拉Model X续航605公里、电池容量也是100kWh。</p><p>2021年中国纯电、插电混动车销量之比约 5:1。制造动力电池消耗的资源,95%用于纯电动车。</p><p>假如纯电、插电混动车销量的比例调整为1:5,可以节约60%的资源,特别是中国无法自给自足的锂、钴、镍(中国缺锂、少镍、没钴)。</p><p>王传福曾说“中国不能从石油被卡脖子变成电池被卡脖子”。推广插电混动是重要的解决之道。</p><p>三是消除里程焦虑,促进更多民众购买、使用新能源车,节能减排效果更好。</p><p>只有一个“购车指标”或只打算购买一辆机动车的消费者,考虑到远行的不时之需,对购买纯电动车难免有顾虑。</p><p>同时拥有燃油车和纯电动车的消费者,如果用车半径超过50公里,除非纯电动车满电,肯定倾向于开燃油车出行。里程焦虑+充电难影响购买和使用,不利于新能源车推广。</p><p>插电混动车可油可电,完全不存在里程焦虑。比亚迪插电混动车型最高纯电续航超过200公里,足以满足日常用车需求。</p><p>由于用电成本远远低于烧油。不需宣传、不必监督,车主会尽最大可能用电不烧油。</p><p>无需专家、学者鼓与呼,升斗小民天然懂得趋利避害,插电混动车在新能源车销量中的比重稳步上升。2022年7月,纯电、插电混动车销量分别为33.6万台、10.1万台,插电混动车占比提高到23%。</p><p>2023年新能源车销量要突破1000万台,假如纯电动车占比仍为80%,意味着新增800万台纯电动车。</p><p>预计2022年底,充电桩数量有望突破500万台,2023年再增300万台,年未达到800万台(远超发改委2025年654万台规划)。</p><p>但新增充电桩仍比纯电动车销售少500万台(800万减300万),充电难必然更难。</p><p>居民区、商圈附近等方便用户充电的场地,只要具备安装条件(主要是电网容量)已“应装尽装”。2023年新增300万台充电桩,如果部署在不方便的地方,利用率会大打折扣。</p><p>年销量突破500万台后,中国新能源车还想高歌猛进,必须倚重插电混动产品。在这个领域,比亚迪领先“油改电”的传统车企好几个身位,特斯拉、新势力则完全无法染指。</p><p>2)垂直整合</p><p>在外行眼里比亚迪的“垂直整合”就是“什么都自己做,不划算,所以利润率低”。</p><p>比亚迪自产零部件不外乎三种原因:</p><p>一是核心零部件,包括电池、电机、电控、IGBT芯片,全部自己设计、自己制造、自给自足。长期不懈的投资、研发,加上规模够大,与新能源车相关的核心技术,比亚迪均处于行业领先地位。</p><p>以动力电池为例,2022年H1装机容量34GWh,同比增长168%,相当于<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300750\">宁德时代</a>同期产量的27.2%。</p><p>2022年H1新能源车销量增长了315%,而动力电池装机容量只增长了168%,因为插电混动车电池容量仅为纯电动车的五分之一。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/563df89567882ba83547c423ab519a9f\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"276\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>如果特斯拉采购刀片电池成真,将为比亚迪动力电池打开外供之门。预计从2024年开始,机装容量会迅速提高,缩小与宁德时代的距离。</p><p>时至今日,还有人认为比亚迪不该自研、自造动力电池?</p><p>在疫情冲击下,全球供应链时断时续,比亚迪能将不利影响降至最低,产量逆势增长,正是因为可能被“卡脖子”的零部件比亚迪基本都能自己造。</p><p>第二类非核心零部件,比亚迪自产交易成本更低。根据科斯1930年代提出的“交易成本理论”,企业对外采购要付出谈判、监督、验货、违约处理等附加成本(包括时间、金钱和机会)。</p><p>进入2022年,比亚迪新车型“下饺子”,如果所有零部件都由外部采购,与供应商谈判、协调进度、更改设计……“扯皮”的事情会很多。没有强大的自有零部件配套能力,怎能“左手王朝、右手海洋”。</p><p>第三是非核心零部件,但比亚迪生产成本更低。比亚迪集团本身就是产业集群,产品涵盖手机零部件、智能家居、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300024\">机器人</a>、无人机、通讯设备、医疗设备,具备材料开发、产品设计、供应链管理能力。如果自产零部件性价比更高,为什么要从外部采购。</p><p>除上述三种情况之外,比亚迪自然会引入外部供应商,例如博世、采埃孚、布雷博……国内供应商更多,A股已形成“比亚迪供应商”板块。</p><p>比亚迪早已是中国新能源车霸主,因手里两张“王牌”特斯拉没有,成为全球新能源车霸主只是时间问题,与巴菲特减持与否没有半毛钱关系。#王牌又不是老巴给的#</p><p><b>“增收不增利”不是比亚迪的宿命</b></p><p>1)提高单车毛利润,并非不能,是不想</p><p>特斯拉早年主力车型为Model S、Model X,2017年销量将将突破10万,出厂均价55.9万(人民币,下同),单车毛利润11.9万、毛利润率21.2%。</p><p>2018年交付24.8万台、首次超过比亚迪。由于Model 3开始交付,2018年出厂均价降至47.5万,较2017年低8.4万,但毛利润率却提高了1.2个百分点。</p><p>2021年特斯拉销量达93.6万台,单车价格降至30万元,毛利润率却提高了26.5%,每台车赚8万元。</p><p>进入2022年,特斯拉数度涨价,销售均价提高至33.5万元,毛利润率27.8%,每台车赚9.3万元!</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7f249a860b26b47b994752540ef99529\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"320\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>外行认为比亚迪汽车档次低,售价低,毛利润率肯定没有特斯拉高。实际上,过往六个年度中的四个,比亚迪汽车业务毛利润率高于特斯拉。</p><p>2016年比亚迪主力车型是F3、秦和e6,只有唐勉强算得上“中档”,但比亚迪汽车业务毛利润率高达28.2%。那一年,特斯拉主力车型是Model S、Model X,毛利润率23.6%,较比亚迪低4.6%个百分点。</p><p>2017年、2019年、2020年,比亚迪汽车业务毛利润率均高于特斯拉。“比亚迪车档次低毛利润率必然低”、“比亚迪天然不会赚钱”都是无稽之谈。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8ff258db8b86f910ef397d098e2fad4e\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"326\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>说比亚迪不赚钱的人,认为特斯拉天然就会赚钱,而且很会赚钱。殊不知特斯拉连续多年亏损,2017年亏损高达22.4亿美元。直到2020年才扭亏为盈,满打满算刚过上两年“好日子”。</p><p>进入2022年,特斯拉的几次涨价动作属于典型的“撇脂定价法”(market-skimming pricing)——在强大竞品出现前,将品牌溢价能力挖掘到极致,多赚一点是一点。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/86c79c6edcbbed447e13a98e9bd23264\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"377\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>比亚迪没有采取同样的策略,否则在手中积压70万定单的情况下,每台车涨一两万,如果热度不减就再涨一两万。或者在新车发布时,把原定价格提高几万,如果遇冷就搞搞优惠……#平庸之辈足以玩转这些营销把戏#</p><p>归根结底,王传福不认为30万的车每台赚9万可以持续。但只要想,比亚迪每台赚两三万不成问题。</p><p>实际上,随着新车型定位提高,2022年H1比亚迪出厂均价达到19.4万元/台,比2021年高3.8万元。</p><p>销量遥遥领先、价格中枢不断上移,垂直整合+深度把控产业链,低利润不是比亚迪的宿命。</p><p>2)经营活动现金流净额与特斯拉旗鼓相当</p><p>特斯拉、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">亚马逊</a>都曾连续亏损多年,但经营活动产生的现金流始终为正。例如,2018年特斯拉亏损11亿美元,经营活动现金净流入达21亿美元(约合138亿人民币),高于比亚迪。</p><p>2020年特斯拉被比亚迪超过,落后44亿人民币。2021年,特斯拉反超比亚迪,经营活动现金流领先87亿。</p><p>2022年H1,比亚迪经营活动现金流432亿,再度领先。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/43a23f0c6df5d62101629ebe6eb38f65\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"349\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>特斯拉最新市值约8500亿美元,比亚迪7800亿人民币。经营活动现金流旗鼓相当,两家市值差距有点大。</p><p>*以上分析仅供参考,不构成任何投资建议</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1571189977230","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>巴菲特减持比亚迪,无关大局</title>\n<style 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