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WGJJS
07-21
$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$
危了,需要正常回调下
WGJJS
06-26
纯视觉自动驾驶绝对不行的
安全员频繁介入难掩隐患,特斯拉Robotaxi首秀暴露商业化技术缺陷
WGJJS
06-23
特斯拉的无人车真正上路后,大概率会把它自己脸扇烂,纯视觉不可行,极端天气,甚至大暴雨都搞不定
最新研究:特斯拉Robotaxi比谷歌Waymo安全7倍,成本仅1/7
WGJJS
06-20
$Circle Internet Corp.(CRCL)$
稳定币代表着美国未来对全球的收割能力,必须要涨天上去
WGJJS
06-20
$三花智控(02050)$
中签率太低了
WGJJS
05-16
$联合健康(UNH)$
这家公司牵扯事情太大,不过问题没这么严重
WGJJS
05-08
川王又来了,估计又得几十亿入账
美股持续走高,特朗普宣布美英贸易协定,并称最好赶快去买股票
WGJJS
05-02
每个人都知道这是虚假数据,每个月都得改
美国4月非农新增17.7万人超预期,失业率持稳!市场仍押注年内四次降息
WGJJS
04-11
$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$
话说川普公然操纵市场,赚得这么多,公蜘们所谓的制度纠偏在哪里呢
WGJJS
04-11
$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$
短期不降息,要是美债卖不动,全凉
WGJJS
04-10
千里做官只为财
WGJJS
04-09
$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$
完全脱钩了,这50个点加与不加没有意义,不必在意。 等以后滞胀了,才会继续跌
WGJJS
04-09
必将反制
WGJJS
04-07
$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$
你可以当成技术性反弹,也可以当成那个所谓假新闻刺激
WGJJS
04-07
$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$
已经接近底部了吧,不过暂时不买
WGJJS
04-04
继续加息,要不然你还能咋滴
抱歉,原内容已删除
WGJJS
04-04
$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$
接下来必然发生的事情叫滞胀,是否加息非常不好做 大家悠着点吧
WGJJS
04-04
$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$
我之前预计到14000,按川普头铁的个性,14000似乎是必然
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left;\">第一大优势,<strong>是特斯拉Robotaxi比Waymo更便宜</strong>,具体地说,Waymo的整车成本是特斯拉Robotaxi的七倍。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Waymo目前运营的是第五代车,基于捷豹I-Pace打造,这是一辆纯电SUV,在美国售价高达7.73万美元,折合人民币约为<strong>52.7万元</strong>。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">而特斯拉这边,目前采用的Robotaxi就是Model Y,在美国售价为44990美元,折合人民币约为32.3万元,是I-Pace价格的61%。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/27555d69edd70bd1fe76245f6c34c9c1\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"471\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">价格看上去只差了一半不到,但还要考虑到车上的感知硬件成本。Waymo在I-Pace还加装了各种各样传感器,仅激光雷达就有5个。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">众所周知,激光雷达是中国玩家遥遥领先的领域,2024年的统计数据显示,<strong>禾赛、速腾和华为合计包揽了全球76%的市场份额</strong>,不管是性能和成本控制都更优秀。而众所不周知的是,由于美国相关法案限制,采用中国自动驾驶套件的车辆无法在美上路,只能搭载其他地区的产品,这也无形中抬高了<strong>部分</strong>美国Robotaxi的成本。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Waymo的摄像头也更多,五代车安装了29个,<strong>Model Y感知硬件只有8个摄像头</strong>。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0c8d759e712937c58516ad47bd872f9a\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"608\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">双方的量产规模也不在一个级别,特斯拉每年有上百万台车出厂,而Waymo最近公布的车队规模是1500辆,这也会拉开成本差距。按照报告给出的结论,Waymo无人车成本应该在200万元以上。同时双方软件研发摊薄后的成本也不在一个量级。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">综合对比后,特斯拉Robotaxi在成本侧对比Waymo确实很大优势。单看这点,争议不大。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">但报告还同时对比了双方的安全性,忽视了关键因素,引发行业批评。</p><h2 id=\"id_2613932082\" style=\"text-align: left;\">安全性真的差那么大吗?</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">报告利用所谓的<strong>事故率</strong>,对比了双方的安全度。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">报告援引官方数据,表示FSD每行驶<strong>160万公里约发生0.15起</strong>事故,而Waymo同等距离下,会发生1.16起事故,从直观数据上来看安全性何止差了7倍。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0fa3b585100ad3c0a2c76976a652f618\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"867\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">为什么差距会这么大?</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">报告分析认为,是由于Waymo搭载了太多传感器,感知到的数据量太大,处理不过来。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">听上去有点合理性,但有从业者对报告提出了不同意见,指出<strong>这是歪曲数据得出的结论</strong>。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f0acc5a2f841a87bb045910f2af5a0ee\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"210\" tg-height=\"156\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">报告的数据来源和对比都缺乏一致性,首先,报告引用数据的时间段不同。特斯拉的数据是2025年一季度,Waymo的数据则是2024年四季度,差了足足三个月,将近100天的时间,AI算法迭代日新月异,这样对比多少有失公平。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">其次,事故率的计算也有问题。在报告援引的官方数据中,特斯拉仅在安全气囊或安全带收紧器触发时才将其计为“事故”,对于轻微的碰撞事件,则不计入在内。而Waymo统计的事故,则包括了安全气囊触发、车辆受损、交警报告的碰撞等。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">双方对“事故”的认定都不一样,所谓事故率自然也没什么好比较的。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">最最最不能回避的一点是,特斯拉目前路测的Robotaxi很少,FSD绝大多数情况下是有人监督的智能辅助驾驶,属于人机共驾。而Waymo早已实现主驾无人,是真正的无人驾驶。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a567502c4315fef5c146c6230c68feff\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"491\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">实际上,此前国内也不乏类似的对比,当时由于技术不够成熟,法规做出了限制,许多Robotaxi设置了安全员,随时准备接管,从形式上看这与智能辅助驾驶没什么区别,引发了很多争论。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">直到2022年前后,Robotaxi开始放开主驾无人,L2与L4从此泾渭分明,判若两物,争议就此减少。有无人车头部负责人曾表示,<strong>应该让无人和无人比,有人驾的车和有人比</strong>,以此来回应Robotaxi与L2头部玩家的对比。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">此时此刻,硅谷又出现了类似的对比,而且形成了特斯拉远比Waymo更安全,占尽优势的报告,或许是给特斯拉Robotaxi即将正式上线吹风。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/333fe4bfdcf9cbb362d511898abce3ec\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"852\" tg-height=\"790\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">特斯拉Robotaxi预计将于近期上线,有消息称首批仅10辆车,面向内部员工和受邀人员内测。马斯克对此很乐观,<strong>认为车队规模会在数月之内扩至1000辆</strong>。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">报告比马斯克还乐观35倍,指出特斯拉在数据规模、运营范围以及整车适配上都有很大优势,预测到今年年底特斯拉Robotaxi车队规模将迅速达到<strong>3.5万辆</strong>,Waymo会同时增长到2500辆。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c4d81097f436dce8e64fa4b747e882d2\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"942\" tg-height=\"560\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">3.5万辆是个什么水平?</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">目前中美无人车双雄,Waymo和萝卜快跑车队规模合计有2500辆,其他玩家都还在朝着一千台努力。3.5万辆,是<strong>当前全球所有Robotaxi玩家车队数总和</strong>的数倍之多。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">如果特斯拉无人车真能在短时间内膨胀至此,那无疑将是行业的里程碑式成绩,给行业带来巨大利好。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">这不仅激励了当下的无人车玩家,也将充分验证L2升维路线的可行性,基于量产车,100%采用车规级部件落地Robotaxi这条路跑通了。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">自动驾驶最强鲶鱼,Robotaxi最关键的变量,已经来了。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">L4玩家最强的友商可能不是Waymo,更需要警惕的是特斯拉。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">以及在中国,和特斯拉一样路线的Momenta也明确了Robotaxi目标。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">而这条L2-L3……的路线上,还可能有“遥遥领先”的华为。</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1611665793971","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>最新研究:特斯拉Robotaxi比谷歌Waymo安全7倍,成本仅1/7</title>\n<style 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Y,在美国售价为44990美元,折合人民币约为32.3万元,是I-Pace价格的61%。价格看上去只差了一半不到,但还要考虑到车上的感知硬件成本。Waymo在I-Pace还加装了各种各样传感器,仅激光雷达就有5个。众所周知,激光雷达是中国玩家遥遥领先的领域,2024年的统计数据显示,禾赛、速腾和华为合计包揽了全球76%的市场份额,不管是性能和成本控制都更优秀。而众所不周知的是,由于美国相关法案限制,采用中国自动驾驶套件的车辆无法在美上路,只能搭载其他地区的产品,这也无形中抬高了部分美国Robotaxi的成本。Waymo的摄像头也更多,五代车安装了29个,Model Y感知硬件只有8个摄像头。双方的量产规模也不在一个级别,特斯拉每年有上百万台车出厂,而Waymo最近公布的车队规模是1500辆,这也会拉开成本差距。按照报告给出的结论,Waymo无人车成本应该在200万元以上。同时双方软件研发摊薄后的成本也不在一个量级。综合对比后,特斯拉Robotaxi在成本侧对比Waymo确实很大优势。单看这点,争议不大。但报告还同时对比了双方的安全性,忽视了关键因素,引发行业批评。安全性真的差那么大吗?报告利用所谓的事故率,对比了双方的安全度。报告援引官方数据,表示FSD每行驶160万公里约发生0.15起事故,而Waymo同等距离下,会发生1.16起事故,从直观数据上来看安全性何止差了7倍。为什么差距会这么大?报告分析认为,是由于Waymo搭载了太多传感器,感知到的数据量太大,处理不过来。听上去有点合理性,但有从业者对报告提出了不同意见,指出这是歪曲数据得出的结论。报告的数据来源和对比都缺乏一致性,首先,报告引用数据的时间段不同。特斯拉的数据是2025年一季度,Waymo的数据则是2024年四季度,差了足足三个月,将近100天的时间,AI算法迭代日新月异,这样对比多少有失公平。其次,事故率的计算也有问题。在报告援引的官方数据中,特斯拉仅在安全气囊或安全带收紧器触发时才将其计为“事故”,对于轻微的碰撞事件,则不计入在内。而Waymo统计的事故,则包括了安全气囊触发、车辆受损、交警报告的碰撞等。双方对“事故”的认定都不一样,所谓事故率自然也没什么好比较的。最最最不能回避的一点是,特斯拉目前路测的Robotaxi很少,FSD绝大多数情况下是有人监督的智能辅助驾驶,属于人机共驾。而Waymo早已实现主驾无人,是真正的无人驾驶。实际上,此前国内也不乏类似的对比,当时由于技术不够成熟,法规做出了限制,许多Robotaxi设置了安全员,随时准备接管,从形式上看这与智能辅助驾驶没什么区别,引发了很多争论。直到2022年前后,Robotaxi开始放开主驾无人,L2与L4从此泾渭分明,判若两物,争议就此减少。有无人车头部负责人曾表示,应该让无人和无人比,有人驾的车和有人比,以此来回应Robotaxi与L2头部玩家的对比。此时此刻,硅谷又出现了类似的对比,而且形成了特斯拉远比Waymo更安全,占尽优势的报告,或许是给特斯拉Robotaxi即将正式上线吹风。特斯拉Robotaxi预计将于近期上线,有消息称首批仅10辆车,面向内部员工和受邀人员内测。马斯克对此很乐观,认为车队规模会在数月之内扩至1000辆。报告比马斯克还乐观35倍,指出特斯拉在数据规模、运营范围以及整车适配上都有很大优势,预测到今年年底特斯拉Robotaxi车队规模将迅速达到3.5万辆,Waymo会同时增长到2500辆。3.5万辆是个什么水平?目前中美无人车双雄,Waymo和萝卜快跑车队规模合计有2500辆,其他玩家都还在朝着一千台努力。3.5万辆,是当前全球所有Robotaxi玩家车队数总和的数倍之多。如果特斯拉无人车真能在短时间内膨胀至此,那无疑将是行业的里程碑式成绩,给行业带来巨大利好。这不仅激励了当下的无人车玩家,也将充分验证L2升维路线的可行性,基于量产车,100%采用车规级部件落地Robotaxi这条路跑通了。自动驾驶最强鲶鱼,Robotaxi最关键的变量,已经来了。L4玩家最强的友商可能不是Waymo,更需要警惕的是特斯拉。以及在中国,和特斯拉一样路线的Momenta也明确了Robotaxi目标。而这条L2-L3……的路线上,还可能有“遥遥领先”的华为。","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"GOOG":1.1,"TSLA":1.1}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":330,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":448044574003256,"gmtCreate":1750408295185,"gmtModify":1750408296280,"author":{"id":"3544509774534384","authorId":"3544509774534384","name":"WGJJS","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3544509774534384","authorIdStr":"3544509774534384"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a 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justify;\">5月2日,美国劳工统计局公布的数据显示,经季节性调整后,<strong>美国4月非农就业人口增长达到17.7万人,好于预期,失业率维持在4.2%,符合预期,表明劳动力市场依然稳健。</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">非农重要数据如下:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>美国4月非农就业人口增长17.7万人,预期13.8万人,前值从22.8万人下修至18.5万人。</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">美国4月失业率4.2%,预期4.2%,前值为4.2%。</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">美国4月制造业就业人口变动为减少0.1万人,预期为减少0.5万人,前值为增加0.1万人。</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">美国4月私营部门就业人口变动增加16.7万人,预期为12.5万人,前值为20.9万人。</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">美国4月平均每小时工资同比增长3.8%,预期为3.9%,前值为3.8%;4月平均每小时工资环比增长0.2%,预期增长0.3%,前值为0.3%。</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">美国4月平均每周工时34.3小时,预期为34.2小时,前值34.2小时。</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">美国4月劳动力参与率62.6%,预期62.5%,前值62.5%。</p></li></ul><p>数据公布后,美股期指涨幅扩大:纳斯达克100指数期货涨0.75%,标普500指数期货涨0.8%,道琼斯指数期货涨0.79%。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/17cbc5e544028369e7d6ec1564727fbc\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"443\" 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以下是他的回答:截至2025年1月28日,英伟达股价在美股交易中经历了大幅下跌。根据搜索结果,具体跌幅和原因如下: ### 一、股价跌幅 1. **盘中最大跌幅达15%** 英伟达股价在当日盘中一度下跌15%,创下去年10月以来的新低,报121.039美元/股。 2. **开盘后跌幅达13%,创历史纪录** 开盘后不久,股价下跌13%,市值蒸发约4650亿美元,打破了此前2024年9月单日蒸发2790亿美元的纪录,成为美国股市史上最大单日市值蒸发规模。 ### 二、下跌原因分析 1. **中国AI公司DeepSeek的技术冲击** - DeepSeek近期发布了低成本、高性能的AI模型(如DeepSeek-R1和DeepSeek-V3),其训练成本仅为557.6万美元(使用2048块英伟达H800芯片),远低于OpenAI等公司的投入(如GPT-4训练成本达10亿美元)。这一技术突破引发市场对英伟达高端芯片需求的担忧,投资者认为低端芯片适配性提升可能削弱英伟达的市场主导地位。 - 市场担心,DeepSeek的“低成本算力浪潮”将迫使美国科技巨头(如Meta、微软)重新评估其高昂的AI基础设施投入,进而减少对英伟达GPU的采购。 2. **半导体行业周期与估值泡沫** - 英伟达股价在2023-2024年累计上涨超400%,市值一度突破3.5万亿美元,部分透支了市场对AI的预期。此次下跌反映了投资者对其能否维持高增长和盈利能力的质疑。 - 半导体行业正处于技术迭代和库存调整阶段,尽管AI需求推动高端GPU增长,但代工厂(如台积电)库存数据表明短期供需失衡风险加剧。 3. **市场情绪与连带效应** - 英伟达作为标普500和纳斯达克100指数的权重股,其暴跌拖累了大盘指数。标普500早盘一度跌2.3%,纳斯达克100跌3.6%。 - 其他半导体公司(如阿斯麦、博通、台积电)股价也同步下跌,跌幅普遍超过8%,显示市场对整个行业前景的担忧。 ### 三、长期影响与市场展望 短期来看,投资者需关注美联储政策动向和AI技术商业化进展;长期而言,半导体行业仍将受益于AI、自动驾驶等领域的需求,但竞争格局可能因技术路径分... 以下省略字数限制","text":"不知道你怎么问的,我试了一下,ds回答得很好. 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src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ef0cfda0dc8c8a0ed267cef29ab04c9c\" tg-width=\"866\" tg-height=\"417\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><b>国家互联网信息办公室有关负责人就对滴滴全球股份有限公司依法作出网络安全审查相关行政处罚的决定答记者问</b></p><p>7月21日,国家互联网信息办公室公布对滴滴全球股份有限公司(以下简称“滴滴公司”)依法作出网络安全审查相关行政处罚的决定。国家互联网信息办公室有关负责人就案件相关问题回答了记者提问。</p><p>一、问:请简要介绍案件的背景和调查经过?</p><p>答:2021年7月,为防范国家数据安全风险,维护国家安全,保障公共利益,依据《国家安全法》《网络安全法》,网络安全审查办公室按照《网络安全审查办法》对滴滴公司实施网络安全审查。</p><p>根据网络安全审查结论及发现的问题和线索,国家互联网信息办公室依法对滴滴公司涉嫌违法行为进行立案调查。期间,国家互联网信息办公室进行了调查询问、技术取证,责令滴滴公司提交了相关证据材料,对本案证据材料深入核查分析,并充分听取滴滴公司意见,保障滴滴公司合法权利。经查实,滴滴公司违反《网络安全法》《数据安全法》《个人信息保护法》的违法违规行为事实清楚、证据确凿、情节严重、性质恶劣,应当从严从重予以处罚。</p><p>二、问:滴滴公司存在哪些违法违规行为?</p><p>答:经查明,滴滴公司共存在16项违法事实,归纳起来主要是8个方面。一是违法收集用户手机相册中的截图信息1196.39万条;二是过度收集用户剪切板信息、应用列表信息83.23亿条;三是过度收集乘客人脸识别信息1.07亿条、年龄段信息5350.92万条、职业信息1633.56万条、亲情关系信息138.29万条、“家”和“公司”打车地址信息1.53亿条;四是过度收集乘客评价代驾服务时、App后台运行时、手机连接桔视记录仪设备时的精准位置(经纬度)信息1.67亿条;五是过度收集司机学历信息14.29万条,以明文形式存储司机身份证号信息5780.26万条;六是在未明确告知乘客情况下分析乘客出行意图信息539.76亿条、常驻城市信息15.38亿条、异地商务/异地旅游信息3.04亿条;七是在乘客使用顺风车服务时频繁索取无关的“电话权限”;八是未准确、清晰说明用户设备信息等19项个人信息处理目的。</p><p>此前,网络安全审查还发现,滴滴公司存在严重影响国家安全的数据处理活动,以及拒不履行监管部门的明确要求,阳奉阴违、恶意逃避监管等其他违法违规问题。滴滴公司违法违规运营给国家关键信息基础设施安全和数据安全带来严重安全风险隐患。因涉及国家安全,依法不公开。</p><p>三、问:本案的违法主体是如何认定的?</p><p>答:滴滴公司成立于2013年1月,相关境内业务线主要包括网约车、顺风车、两轮车、造车等,相关产品包括滴滴出行App、滴滴车主App、滴滴顺风车App、滴滴企业版App等41款App。</p><p>滴滴公司对境内各业务线重大事项具有最高决策权,制定的企业内部制度规范对境内各业务线全部适用,且对落实情况负监督管理责任。该公司通过滴滴信息与数据安全委员会及其下设的个人信息保护委员会、数据安全委员会,参与网约车、顺风车等业务线相关行为的决策指导、监督管理,各业务线违法行为是在该公司统一决策和部署下的具体落实。据此,本案违法行为主体认定为滴滴公司。</p><p>滴滴公司董事长兼CEO程维、总裁柳青,对违法行为负主管责任。</p><p>四、问:对滴滴公司作出网络安全审查相关行政处罚的决定的主要依据是什么?</p><p>答:此次对滴滴公司的网络安全审查相关行政处罚,与一般的行政处罚不同,具有特殊性。滴滴公司违法违规行为情节严重,结合网络安全审查情况,应当予以从严从重处罚。一是从违法行为的性质看,<b>滴滴公司未按照相关法律法规规定和监管部门要求,履行网络安全、数据安全、个人信息保护义务,置国家网络安全、数据安全于不顾,给国家网络安全、数据安全带来严重的风险隐患,且在监管部门责令改正情况下,仍未进行全面深入整改,性质极为恶劣。</b>二是从违法行为的持续时间看,滴滴公司相关违法行为最早开始于2015年6月,持续至今,时间长达7年,持续违反2017年6月实施的《网络安全法》、2021年9月实施的《数据安全法》和2021年11月实施的《个人信息保护法》。三是从违法行为的危害看,滴滴公司通过违法手段收集用户剪切板信息、相册中的截图信息、亲情关系信息等个人信息,严重侵犯用户隐私,严重侵害用户个人信息权益。四是从违法处理个人信息的数量看,滴滴公司违法处理个人信息达647.09亿条,数量巨大,其中包括人脸识别信息、精准位置信息、身份证号等多类敏感个人信息。五是从违法处理个人信息的情形看,滴滴公司违法行为涉及多个App,涵盖过度收集个人信息、强制收集敏感个人信息、App频繁索权、未尽个人信息处理告知义务、未尽网络安全数据安全保护义务等多种情形。</p><p>综合考虑滴滴公司违法行为的性质、持续时间、危害及情形,对滴滴公司作出网络安全审查相关行政处罚的决定的主要依据是《网络安全法》《数据安全法》《个人信息保护法》《行政处罚法》等有关规定。</p><p>五、问:下一步网络执法的重点方向和领域有哪些?</p><p>答:近年来,国家不断加强对网络安全、数据安全、个人信息的保护力度,先后颁布了《网络安全法》《数据安全法》《个人信息保护法》《关键信息基础设施安全保护条例》《网络安全审查办法》《数据出境安全评估办法》等法律法规。网信部门将依法加大网络安全、数据安全、个人信息保护等领域执法力度,通过执法约谈、责令改正、警告、通报批评、罚款、责令暂停相关业务、停业整顿、关闭网站、下架、处理责任人等处置处罚措施,依法打击危害国家网络安全、数据安全、侵害公民个人信息等违法行为,切实维护国家网络安全、数据安全和社会公共利益,有力保障广大人民群众合法权益。同时,加大典型案例曝光力度,形成强大声势和有力震慑,做到查处一案、警示一片,教育引导互联网企业依法合规运营,促进企业健康规范有序发展。</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1625840125381","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE 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