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2021-08-10

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@程俊Dream:重磅分析，本周黄金和白银大跌的底部是多少？

2021-08-10

Ok lol

@3Fs:Alibaba Group Holdings - FY2022 Q1 Earning + Live Conference

2021-08-10

Testing

@程俊Dream:重磅分析，本周黄金和白银大跌的底部是多少？

2021-08-10

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@话题虎:AMD一尘崛起，市值直逼英特尔！还能涨多久？

2021-08-10

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@Skai:$AMC Entertainment(AMC)$is a boring stock. We just buy and hodl, and wait for the short squeeze. I may have to wait till the HFs decide to cut their loss and start covering the shorts or when the SEC implements more rules to stop all the illegal manipulation.But I don't care, as long as I'll make big bucks during the squeeze, which can change my life. Investing in other stocks doesn't guarantee profit and also doesn't guarantee huge profit. In AMC, I believe.How about you?

2021-08-10

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@3Fs:3 Things You May Be Interest Tencent > 10% Shares Drop Today

2021-08-10

不太好。

马斯克有多狂？绝望时刻求收购还想当苹果CEO

2021-08-10

Bye bye svergrande

恒大：正在接触独立第三方投资者探讨有关出售旗下部分资产

2021-08-10

I dont think having an Indian Tesla Factory would be a financially good idea. Firstly have you seen the condition of roads there? Secondly how they drive? It is so crowded. Thirdly the the rich are super rich and the poor are super poor - with the majority of the population on the bottom end of the stick

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&nbsp; 从短期的绝对跌幅来说，是有一些超预期的。但从行情发展本身而言，此前提及过白银面临补跌的时间周期风险只是得到了必须的释放而已。黄金和白银依然有较大的机会在此完成下跌的最后一棒，随后进入属于自己的节奏中。&nbsp; 白银补跌 时间周期匹配&nbsp; 在7月19日的<a href=\"https://www.laohu8.com/post/173252261?invite=WEGPT&amp;lang=zh_CN\" target=\"_blank\">文章</a>中，曾经和大家预告了白银未来3-4周（当时算起）面临补跌的风险，价格可能会再度测试低位。事实的情况也是如此，本周时间周期刚好进入到第九次信号之中。价格和时间都满足了市场补跌行情的需求。 当然，从目前的短期趋势来说，假设和猜测白银已经触底是有一些左侧交易的意思。日线和更短一些的周期都还未给出明确的反转向上的信号。如果周线可以留下不错的下影线的话，后续低位盘旋的机会可以考虑构建投机性的多单。中长期的投资者，则不用太多考虑成本些许差异，无杠杆或者低杠杆的模式下，耐心就是赚钱的利器。&nbsp; 黄金行情有变数么？&nbsp; 黄金短暂跌破1700，又一次提供了短期的投机**易机会，跟跌白银的力度还是超出了预估范围。当前1750均价的长期投资头寸处于小幅浮亏状态之中，不过考虑到1750-1900+的过山车都已经坐过，应该也不会太担忧这种短期波动。&nbsp; 从价格来看，年内的黄金低位1680附近的支持情况还是较为关键的。我们正在观察未来1-2周及8月的收线情况。确认跌破的话将会明显影响到短期的多头信心，并且引发止损卖盘的出现。1700下方投机多单需要考虑将上述价格作为离","listText":"周一早间黄金白银出现大跳水行情，黄金一度跌破1700整数关口，勉强守住年内低点后反弹修正。白银同样出现重挫，对去年9-11月的低点平台进行了测试。 &nbsp; 从短期的绝对跌幅来说，是有一些超预期的。但从行情发展本身而言，此前提及过白银面临补跌的时间周期风险只是得到了必须的释放而已。黄金和白银依然有较大的机会在此完成下跌的最后一棒，随后进入属于自己的节奏中。&nbsp; 白银补跌 时间周期匹配&nbsp; 在7月19日的<a 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当然，从目前的短期趋势来说，假设和猜测白银已经触底是有一些左侧交易的意思。日线和更短一些的周期都还未给出明确的反转向上的信号。如果周线可以留下不错的下影线的话，后续低位盘旋的机会可以考虑构建投机性的多单。中长期的投资者，则不用太多考虑成本些许差异，无杠杆或者低杠杆的模式下，耐心就是赚钱的利器。 黄金行情有变数么？ 黄金短暂跌破1700，又一次提供了短期的投机**易机会，跟跌白银的力度还是超出了预估范围。当前1750均价的长期投资头寸处于小幅浮亏状态之中，不过考虑到1750-1900+的过山车都已经坐过，应该也不会太担忧这种短期波动。 从价格来看，年内的黄金低位1680附近的支持情况还是较为关键的。我们正在观察未来1-2周及8月的收线情况。确认跌破的话将会明显影响到短期的多头信心，并且引发止损卖盘的出现。1700下方投机多单需要考虑将上述价格作为离","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/db85141c538fe5d552e59f0dbad1b867","width":"-1","height":"-1"}],"top":1,"highlighted":2,"essential":2,"paper":2,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/898109026","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":0,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"subType":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":58,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":896521941,"gmtCreate":1628595366383,"gmtModify":1633745891718,"author":{"id":"3575523286680240","authorId":"3575523286680240","name":"ElonMuskrat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0a15a78a42bb4fe60b719f7a1e14bfe0","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3575523286680240","authorIdStr":"3575523286680240"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Great 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面对AMD的强势来袭，英特尔却宣布将主要精力放在芯片制造领域，似乎有种 “抵挡不了AMD的赶超，干脆放弃” 的感觉。 于是，在多重因素下，AMD的股价腾飞了！ 有投资者认为，AMD已经从一名跟着随着逆袭成为了领跑者，未来的市值极有可能赶超英特尔。 目前，AMD市值1441亿美元，距离<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/INTC\">$英特尔(INTC)$</a> 2187亿美元的市值，仍有50%的上涨空间。 …… 最后，大家聊一聊： 你是否看好AMD？ 你认为AMD的市值能超越英特尔吗？ 精彩留言用户可获得888社区积分噢！","listText":"得益于财报大超预期，<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMD\">$AMD(AMD)$</a> 一尘崛起，股价六连阳： 据了解，面对主要竞争对手英特尔，AMD专注于产品设计与研发，选择用外包的方式，把代工交给<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSM\">$台积电(TSM)$</a> 。 这样强强联手的结果，使得AMD的产品优势逐渐突出，斩获了更高的市场占有率。 更令资本市场青睐AMD的原因，还有： 面对AMD的强势来袭，英特尔却宣布将主要精力放在芯片制造领域，似乎有种 “抵挡不了AMD的赶超，干脆放弃” 的感觉。 于是，在多重因素下，AMD的股价腾飞了！ 有投资者认为，AMD已经从一名跟着随着逆袭成为了领跑者，未来的市值极有可能赶超英特尔。 目前，AMD市值1441亿美元，距离<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/INTC\">$英特尔(INTC)$</a> 2187亿美元的市值，仍有50%的上涨空间。 …… 最后，大家聊一聊： 你是否看好AMD？ 你认为AMD的市值能超越英特尔吗？ 精彩留言用户可获得888社区积分噢！","text":"得益于财报大超预期，$AMD(AMD)$ 一尘崛起，股价六连阳： 据了解，面对主要竞争对手英特尔，AMD专注于产品设计与研发，选择用外包的方式，把代工交给$台积电(TSM)$ 。 这样强强联手的结果，使得AMD的产品优势逐渐突出，斩获了更高的市场占有率。 更令资本市场青睐AMD的原因，还有： 面对AMD的强势来袭，英特尔却宣布将主要精力放在芯片制造领域，似乎有种 “抵挡不了AMD的赶超，干脆放弃” 的感觉。 于是，在多重因素下，AMD的股价腾飞了！ 有投资者认为，AMD已经从一名跟着随着逆袭成为了领跑者，未来的市值极有可能赶超英特尔。 目前，AMD市值1441亿美元，距离$英特尔(INTC)$ 2187亿美元的市值，仍有50%的上涨空间。 …… 最后，大家聊一聊： 你是否看好AMD？ 你认为AMD的市值能超越英特尔吗？ 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China already imposed gaming curfew for minors in 201","text":"This will be a quick post to touch upon the 3 things that are related to gaming industry, particularly Tencent - given that it is currently the talk of the town at the moment.$TENCENT(00700)$ In case you have not heard of the news that were circulating this morning, China's state-run Economic Information Journal Daily - stole today's headline by titling the article \"Spiritual Opium Grows into Hundreds of Billions of Industries\", which likened online games as hazardous especially to young people and seek to regulate them as soon as possible. This sends a spook across investors and spiral down to gaming stocks such as Tencent and Netease which dropped more than 10% this morning. 1.) 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18:40","market":"us","language":"zh","title":"马斯克有多狂？绝望时刻求收购还想当苹果CEO","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2158441870","media":"华尔街见闻","summary":"2016年，汽车难产，现金流紧张的特斯拉CEO马斯克接到一通苹果CEO库克主动打来的电话，表示愿意收购当时深陷危机的特斯拉。库克本想和马斯克友好的谈论收购事宜。孰知马斯克口出狂言又来了句：“是苹果，我要成为特斯拉和苹果合并后的CEO。”去年12月，马斯克曾发推特表示，在2016年Model 3项目难产的“至暗时刻”，他联系了苹果CEO蒂姆·库克，有意将特斯拉出售给苹果公司，不过库克直接拒绝了他的见面邀请。","content":"<blockquote>\n 库克和马斯克作为商界的两位“顶流”，无论在私底下还是台面上早已硝烟四起。马斯克确实很聪明，但他的自大狂妄令芒格等人不太欣赏。\n</blockquote>\n<p>2016年，汽车难产，现金流紧张的<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>CEO马斯克接到一通<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">苹果</a>CEO库克主动打来的电话，表示愿意收购当时深陷危机的特斯拉。</p>\n<p>库克本想和马斯克友好的谈论收购事宜。马斯克给出的回答是“可以，不过我要继续当CEO”。库克表示那当然没问题。</p>\n<p>孰知马斯克口出狂言又来了句：“是苹果，我要成为特斯拉和苹果合并后的CEO。”</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/65825bf0c25b4f6b9e027a017d57fc62\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"309\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>听罢，向来温文儒雅库克随即口吐芬芳，以F开头问候了马斯克和他爹妈，并直接挂断了电话。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/085077c3f1d144be8df3b1b0de7b234a\" tg-width=\"295\" tg-height=\"221\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p><b>上述这段故事，出自华尔街日报汽车和技术记者Tim Higgins的新书</b>《Power Play: Tesla, Elon Musk, and the Bet of the Century》。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8dbbe35211ec4293a551c06b8022554b\" tg-width=\"1052\" tg-height=\"489\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>暂且不论这则第三方叙述的事情真假，至少人们此前所津津乐道的是另一个截然不同的版本。</p>\n<p>去年12月，马斯克曾发推特表示，在2016年Model 3项目难产的“至暗时刻”，他联系了苹果CEO蒂姆·库克，有意将特斯拉出售给苹果公司，不过库克直接拒绝了他的见面邀请。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a409b5a7b05348eb8d632483d62647ef\" tg-width=\"648\" tg-height=\"314\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>这听起来似乎也很合理，因为作为汽车行业的革命者，特斯拉和马斯克在此前的多年间都饱受质疑。</p>\n<p>人们质疑的观点也很有说服力：</p>\n<ul>\n <li><p>第一，能源的范式转换并不是个轻松的过程；</p></li>\n <li><p>第二，做整车制造非常烧钱且十分以来供应链支撑，无论从现金流还是产能角度来说，特斯拉的底气都不够硬。与此同时，它的竞争对手都有大量的现金储备，不会轻易退出这一市场；</p></li>\n <li><p>第三，作为特斯拉CEO的马斯克，虽才智过人但性格不够稳重，经常口无遮拦，不兑现诺言。</p></li>\n</ul>\n<p>即便是距今仅3年的2018年，特斯拉仍在为每周5000辆的汽车生产目标苦苦挣扎， 对此福特总裁Steve Armstrong当时还发推特嘲讽称“我们生产7000量车只需4个小时 ”。</p>\n<p>没有多少人能想到，5年前尚处于生死存亡关头的特斯拉，通过短短数年已一跃成为全球市值最高的汽车公司，还一度超过全球九大汽车企业（大众、丰田、日产、现代、通用、福特、本田、菲亚特克莱斯勒和<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/0NQ9.UK\">标致</a>）的市值之和。</p>\n<p>总而言之，在当时那种情况下，库克确实没有理马斯克的必要，他们的主营业务是手机和平板电脑等消费电子品，并且是毫无争议的行业龙头，没必要再去一个不被看好的新行业攻城略地。</p>\n<p>无论如何，与众多科技行业大佬们的八卦传闻一样，双方都对书中的这段传闻矢口否认。</p>\n<p>库克不仅称自己从未和马斯克说过话，还顺便赞誉了马斯克一番。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/82c166418c9949ee9bfb6955b2e92243\" tg-width=\"259\" tg-height=\"194\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>马斯克也对此回应道“库克从未与我说过话或写过信，有次我想与库克见面讨论收购特斯拉的事情，但他拒绝了会面”。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/97d514c18053470e882eb2d72eb5aa6a\" tg-width=\"844\" tg-height=\"568\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>然而，<b>让我们把时间的指针拨回到几年前，再从那些过往事件中找寻蛛丝马迹，会发现Higgins所述也并非完全空穴来风。</b></p>\n<h2><b>01</b></h2>\n<h2><b>“商界”顶流的战争</b></h2>\n<p>库克和马斯克作为商界的两位“顶流”，无论在私底下还是台面上早已硝烟四起。</p>\n<p>先说苹果这边，2018年开始，苹果开始涉足电动车项目并开始了大手笔的研发支出，该项目的研发人员大多来自对特斯拉的“挖墙脚”。</p>\n<p>只要锄头舞得好，哪有墙角挖不倒。据<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NYT\">纽约时报</a>，截至2019年底，苹果已从特斯拉挖走超过300名技术人员。</p>\n<p>相比库克的暗中角力，马斯克选择直接嘴炮。</p>\n<p>他称苹果挖“挖墙脚”的行为是“苹果只招我们不要的人，只有在特斯拉未能取得成功的人才会离开，前往苹果工作”。</p>\n<p>此外，在特斯拉2021年二季度财报发布活动中，马斯克讽刺了苹果在其设备的电池中使用了大量钴，并顺便吹了一波特斯拉的磷酸铁锂电池。他还将苹果不支持第三方充电的政策称之为“围墙花园”，表现的十分嗤之以鼻。</p>\n<p>如果说苹果公司的全球影响力力压特斯拉，那么在这两家公司的CEO薪酬上，马斯克则远远甩了库克几条街。</p>\n<p>据福布斯，马斯克已连续三年薪酬位居全球CEO之首，其去年全年薪酬为66.58亿美元，约合430.5亿元人民币，库克去年的年薪为2.65亿美元。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/56fe1ea348fd4ebc9c23cc67f462bcbf\" tg-width=\"641\" tg-height=\"630\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>图片来源：<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00700\">腾讯</a>科技</p>\n<h2><b>02</b></h2>\n<h2><b>马斯克的AB面</b></h2>\n<p>马斯克确实有狂妄的资本，他足够聪明，行动力强。除了特斯拉之外，他还参与创建了制造可回收火箭的太空探索公司SpaceX、制造可<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/000591\">太阳能</a>发电系统的SolarCity、挖隧道打造亚音速浮空列车系统Hyperlloop、脑神经接口公司Neuralink。</p>\n<p><b>故事讲的好，令特斯拉的散户拥趸那是大大的多。</b></p>\n<p><b>但马斯克的自大狂妄也令芒格等人不太欣赏。</b></p>\n<p>今年2月14日，在每日期刊的年度股东会上，有听众表示自己最喜欢芒格说的“要雇佣那些智商130，却认为自己只有120智商的人 ，如果智商只有150，却认为自己有170智商的人就麻烦了”。芒格表示“你说的一定是马斯克”。</p>\n<p>此外，芒格还曾表示，我不会买特斯拉的股票，我也不会做空特斯拉。</p>\n<p>不过他也说道，“永远不要低估一个人，即使他高估了自己。我认为马斯克是很特殊的，他可能高估了自己，但他并不总是错的”。</p>\n<p>在另一次访谈中，芒格称：</p>\n<blockquote>\n 特斯拉已经创造了远超他人预期的成就，创始人非常大胆和聪明，并且尝试达成那些难以达到的目标，像这样的人很可能取得无法估量的成就，不过这些人可能也会失败得非常快，我不知道马斯克最后能取得什么样的成就。但是，我认为马斯克向当大的可能性成功，也有相当大的可能性失败，他似乎很喜欢这样。我认为他聪明且自大，我没有办法批评任何聪明且自大的人。\n</blockquote>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" 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the Bet of the Century》。\n\n暂且不论这则第三方叙述的事情真假，至少人们此前所津津乐道的是另一个截然不同的版本。\n去年12月，马斯克曾发推特表示，在2016年Model 3项目难产的“至暗时刻”，他联系了苹果CEO蒂姆·库克，有意将特斯拉出售给苹果公司，不过库克直接拒绝了他的见面邀请。\n\n这听起来似乎也很合理，因为作为汽车行业的革命者，特斯拉和马斯克在此前的多年间都饱受质疑。\n人们质疑的观点也很有说服力：\n\n第一，能源的范式转换并不是个轻松的过程；\n第二，做整车制造非常烧钱且十分以来供应链支撑，无论从现金流还是产能角度来说，特斯拉的底气都不够硬。与此同时，它的竞争对手都有大量的现金储备，不会轻易退出这一市场；\n第三，作为特斯拉CEO的马斯克，虽才智过人但性格不够稳重，经常口无遮拦，不兑现诺言。\n\n即便是距今仅3年的2018年，特斯拉仍在为每周5000辆的汽车生产目标苦苦挣扎， 对此福特总裁Steve Armstrong当时还发推特嘲讽称“我们生产7000量车只需4个小时 ”。\n没有多少人能想到，5年前尚处于生死存亡关头的特斯拉，通过短短数年已一跃成为全球市值最高的汽车公司，还一度超过全球九大汽车企业（大众、丰田、日产、现代、通用、福特、本田、菲亚特克莱斯勒和标致）的市值之和。\n总而言之，在当时那种情况下，库克确实没有理马斯克的必要，他们的主营业务是手机和平板电脑等消费电子品，并且是毫无争议的行业龙头，没必要再去一个不被看好的新行业攻城略地。\n无论如何，与众多科技行业大佬们的八卦传闻一样，双方都对书中的这段传闻矢口否认。\n库克不仅称自己从未和马斯克说过话，还顺便赞誉了马斯克一番。\n\n马斯克也对此回应道“库克从未与我说过话或写过信，有次我想与库克见面讨论收购特斯拉的事情，但他拒绝了会面”。\n\n然而，让我们把时间的指针拨回到几年前，再从那些过往事件中找寻蛛丝马迹，会发现Higgins所述也并非完全空穴来风。\n01\n“商界”顶流的战争\n库克和马斯克作为商界的两位“顶流”，无论在私底下还是台面上早已硝烟四起。\n先说苹果这边，2018年开始，苹果开始涉足电动车项目并开始了大手笔的研发支出，该项目的研发人员大多来自对特斯拉的“挖墙脚”。\n只要锄头舞得好，哪有墙角挖不倒。据纽约时报，截至2019年底，苹果已从特斯拉挖走超过300名技术人员。\n相比库克的暗中角力，马斯克选择直接嘴炮。\n他称苹果挖“挖墙脚”的行为是“苹果只招我们不要的人，只有在特斯拉未能取得成功的人才会离开，前往苹果工作”。\n此外，在特斯拉2021年二季度财报发布活动中，马斯克讽刺了苹果在其设备的电池中使用了大量钴，并顺便吹了一波特斯拉的磷酸铁锂电池。他还将苹果不支持第三方充电的政策称之为“围墙花园”，表现的十分嗤之以鼻。\n如果说苹果公司的全球影响力力压特斯拉，那么在这两家公司的CEO薪酬上，马斯克则远远甩了库克几条街。\n据福布斯，马斯克已连续三年薪酬位居全球CEO之首，其去年全年薪酬为66.58亿美元，约合430.5亿元人民币，库克去年的年薪为2.65亿美元。\n\n图片来源：腾讯科技\n02\n马斯克的AB面\n马斯克确实有狂妄的资本，他足够聪明，行动力强。除了特斯拉之外，他还参与创建了制造可回收火箭的太空探索公司SpaceX、制造可太阳能发电系统的SolarCity、挖隧道打造亚音速浮空列车系统Hyperlloop、脑神经接口公司Neuralink。\n故事讲的好，令特斯拉的散户拥趸那是大大的多。\n但马斯克的自大狂妄也令芒格等人不太欣赏。\n今年2月14日，在每日期刊的年度股东会上，有听众表示自己最喜欢芒格说的“要雇佣那些智商130，却认为自己只有120智商的人 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src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/085077c3f1d144be8df3b1b0de7b234a\" tg-width=\"295\" tg-height=\"221\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p><b>上述这段故事，出自华尔街日报汽车和技术记者Tim Higgins的新书</b>《Power Play: Tesla, Elon Musk, and the Bet of the Century》。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8dbbe35211ec4293a551c06b8022554b\" tg-width=\"1052\" tg-height=\"489\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>暂且不论这则第三方叙述的事情真假，至少人们此前所津津乐道的是另一个截然不同的版本。</p>\n<p>去年12月，马斯克曾发推特表示，在2016年Model 3项目难产的“至暗时刻”，他联系了苹果CEO蒂姆·库克，有意将特斯拉出售给苹果公司，不过库克直接拒绝了他的见面邀请。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a409b5a7b05348eb8d632483d62647ef\" tg-width=\"648\" tg-height=\"314\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>这听起来似乎也很合理，因为作为汽车行业的革命者，特斯拉和马斯克在此前的多年间都饱受质疑。</p>\n<p>人们质疑的观点也很有说服力：</p>\n<ul>\n <li><p>第一，能源的范式转换并不是个轻松的过程；</p></li>\n <li><p>第二，做整车制造非常烧钱且十分以来供应链支撑，无论从现金流还是产能角度来说，特斯拉的底气都不够硬。与此同时，它的竞争对手都有大量的现金储备，不会轻易退出这一市场；</p></li>\n <li><p>第三，作为特斯拉CEO的马斯克，虽才智过人但性格不够稳重，经常口无遮拦，不兑现诺言。</p></li>\n</ul>\n<p>即便是距今仅3年的2018年，特斯拉仍在为每周5000辆的汽车生产目标苦苦挣扎， 对此福特总裁Steve Armstrong当时还发推特嘲讽称“我们生产7000量车只需4个小时 ”。</p>\n<p>没有多少人能想到，5年前尚处于生死存亡关头的特斯拉，通过短短数年已一跃成为全球市值最高的汽车公司，还一度超过全球九大汽车企业（大众、丰田、日产、现代、通用、福特、本田、菲亚特克莱斯勒和<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/0NQ9.UK\">标致</a>）的市值之和。</p>\n<p>总而言之，在当时那种情况下，库克确实没有理马斯克的必要，他们的主营业务是手机和平板电脑等消费电子品，并且是毫无争议的行业龙头，没必要再去一个不被看好的新行业攻城略地。</p>\n<p>无论如何，与众多科技行业大佬们的八卦传闻一样，双方都对书中的这段传闻矢口否认。</p>\n<p>库克不仅称自己从未和马斯克说过话，还顺便赞誉了马斯克一番。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/82c166418c9949ee9bfb6955b2e92243\" tg-width=\"259\" tg-height=\"194\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>马斯克也对此回应道“库克从未与我说过话或写过信，有次我想与库克见面讨论收购特斯拉的事情，但他拒绝了会面”。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/97d514c18053470e882eb2d72eb5aa6a\" tg-width=\"844\" tg-height=\"568\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>然而，<b>让我们把时间的指针拨回到几年前，再从那些过往事件中找寻蛛丝马迹，会发现Higgins所述也并非完全空穴来风。</b></p>\n<h2><b>01</b></h2>\n<h2><b>“商界”顶流的战争</b></h2>\n<p>库克和马斯克作为商界的两位“顶流”，无论在私底下还是台面上早已硝烟四起。</p>\n<p>先说苹果这边，2018年开始，苹果开始涉足电动车项目并开始了大手笔的研发支出，该项目的研发人员大多来自对特斯拉的“挖墙脚”。</p>\n<p>只要锄头舞得好，哪有墙角挖不倒。据<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NYT\">纽约时报</a>，截至2019年底，苹果已从特斯拉挖走超过300名技术人员。</p>\n<p>相比库克的暗中角力，马斯克选择直接嘴炮。</p>\n<p>他称苹果挖“挖墙脚”的行为是“苹果只招我们不要的人，只有在特斯拉未能取得成功的人才会离开，前往苹果工作”。</p>\n<p>此外，在特斯拉2021年二季度财报发布活动中，马斯克讽刺了苹果在其设备的电池中使用了大量钴，并顺便吹了一波特斯拉的磷酸铁锂电池。他还将苹果不支持第三方充电的政策称之为“围墙花园”，表现的十分嗤之以鼻。</p>\n<p>如果说苹果公司的全球影响力力压特斯拉，那么在这两家公司的CEO薪酬上，马斯克则远远甩了库克几条街。</p>\n<p>据福布斯，马斯克已连续三年薪酬位居全球CEO之首，其去年全年薪酬为66.58亿美元，约合430.5亿元人民币，库克去年的年薪为2.65亿美元。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/56fe1ea348fd4ebc9c23cc67f462bcbf\" tg-width=\"641\" tg-height=\"630\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>图片来源：<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00700\">腾讯</a>科技</p>\n<h2><b>02</b></h2>\n<h2><b>马斯克的AB面</b></h2>\n<p>马斯克确实有狂妄的资本，他足够聪明，行动力强。除了特斯拉之外，他还参与创建了制造可回收火箭的太空探索公司SpaceX、制造可<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/000591\">太阳能</a>发电系统的SolarCity、挖隧道打造亚音速浮空列车系统Hyperlloop、脑神经接口公司Neuralink。</p>\n<p><b>故事讲的好，令特斯拉的散户拥趸那是大大的多。</b></p>\n<p><b>但马斯克的自大狂妄也令芒格等人不太欣赏。</b></p>\n<p>今年2月14日，在每日期刊的年度股东会上，有听众表示自己最喜欢芒格说的“要雇佣那些智商130，却认为自己只有120智商的人 ，如果智商只有150，却认为自己有170智商的人就麻烦了”。芒格表示“你说的一定是马斯克”。</p>\n<p>此外，芒格还曾表示，我不会买特斯拉的股票，我也不会做空特斯拉。</p>\n<p>不过他也说道，“永远不要低估一个人，即使他高估了自己。我认为马斯克是很特殊的，他可能高估了自己，但他并不总是错的”。</p>\n<p>在另一次访谈中，芒格称：</p>\n<blockquote>\n 特斯拉已经创造了远超他人预期的成就，创始人非常大胆和聪明，并且尝试达成那些难以达到的目标，像这样的人很可能取得无法估量的成就，不过这些人可能也会失败得非常快，我不知道马斯克最后能取得什么样的成就。但是，我认为马斯克向当大的可能性成功，也有相当大的可能性失败，他似乎很喜欢这样。我认为他聪明且自大，我没有办法批评任何聪明且自大的人。\n</blockquote>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" 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the Bet of the Century》。\n\n暂且不论这则第三方叙述的事情真假，至少人们此前所津津乐道的是另一个截然不同的版本。\n去年12月，马斯克曾发推特表示，在2016年Model 3项目难产的“至暗时刻”，他联系了苹果CEO蒂姆·库克，有意将特斯拉出售给苹果公司，不过库克直接拒绝了他的见面邀请。\n\n这听起来似乎也很合理，因为作为汽车行业的革命者，特斯拉和马斯克在此前的多年间都饱受质疑。\n人们质疑的观点也很有说服力：\n\n第一，能源的范式转换并不是个轻松的过程；\n第二，做整车制造非常烧钱且十分以来供应链支撑，无论从现金流还是产能角度来说，特斯拉的底气都不够硬。与此同时，它的竞争对手都有大量的现金储备，不会轻易退出这一市场；\n第三，作为特斯拉CEO的马斯克，虽才智过人但性格不够稳重，经常口无遮拦，不兑现诺言。\n\n即便是距今仅3年的2018年，特斯拉仍在为每周5000辆的汽车生产目标苦苦挣扎， 对此福特总裁Steve Armstrong当时还发推特嘲讽称“我们生产7000量车只需4个小时 ”。\n没有多少人能想到，5年前尚处于生死存亡关头的特斯拉，通过短短数年已一跃成为全球市值最高的汽车公司，还一度超过全球九大汽车企业（大众、丰田、日产、现代、通用、福特、本田、菲亚特克莱斯勒和标致）的市值之和。\n总而言之，在当时那种情况下，库克确实没有理马斯克的必要，他们的主营业务是手机和平板电脑等消费电子品，并且是毫无争议的行业龙头，没必要再去一个不被看好的新行业攻城略地。\n无论如何，与众多科技行业大佬们的八卦传闻一样，双方都对书中的这段传闻矢口否认。\n库克不仅称自己从未和马斯克说过话，还顺便赞誉了马斯克一番。\n\n马斯克也对此回应道“库克从未与我说过话或写过信，有次我想与库克见面讨论收购特斯拉的事情，但他拒绝了会面”。\n\n然而，让我们把时间的指针拨回到几年前，再从那些过往事件中找寻蛛丝马迹，会发现Higgins所述也并非完全空穴来风。\n01\n“商界”顶流的战争\n库克和马斯克作为商界的两位“顶流”，无论在私底下还是台面上早已硝烟四起。\n先说苹果这边，2018年开始，苹果开始涉足电动车项目并开始了大手笔的研发支出，该项目的研发人员大多来自对特斯拉的“挖墙脚”。\n只要锄头舞得好，哪有墙角挖不倒。据纽约时报，截至2019年底，苹果已从特斯拉挖走超过300名技术人员。\n相比库克的暗中角力，马斯克选择直接嘴炮。\n他称苹果挖“挖墙脚”的行为是“苹果只招我们不要的人，只有在特斯拉未能取得成功的人才会离开，前往苹果工作”。\n此外，在特斯拉2021年二季度财报发布活动中，马斯克讽刺了苹果在其设备的电池中使用了大量钴，并顺便吹了一波特斯拉的磷酸铁锂电池。他还将苹果不支持第三方充电的政策称之为“围墙花园”，表现的十分嗤之以鼻。\n如果说苹果公司的全球影响力力压特斯拉，那么在这两家公司的CEO薪酬上，马斯克则远远甩了库克几条街。\n据福布斯，马斯克已连续三年薪酬位居全球CEO之首，其去年全年薪酬为66.58亿美元，约合430.5亿元人民币，库克去年的年薪为2.65亿美元。\n\n图片来源：腾讯科技\n02\n马斯克的AB面\n马斯克确实有狂妄的资本，他足够聪明，行动力强。除了特斯拉之外，他还参与创建了制造可回收火箭的太空探索公司SpaceX、制造可太阳能发电系统的SolarCity、挖隧道打造亚音速浮空列车系统Hyperlloop、脑神经接口公司Neuralink。\n故事讲的好，令特斯拉的散户拥趸那是大大的多。\n但马斯克的自大狂妄也令芒格等人不太欣赏。\n今年2月14日，在每日期刊的年度股东会上，有听众表示自己最喜欢芒格说的“要雇佣那些智商130，却认为自己只有120智商的人 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Monthly Active Customer (MAU) for the platform ecosystem grew to 1.18 billion globally, which is an increase of over 45 million from the previous year. This is broken down into 912m for China consumers and 265 International consumers outside China. Inside China's 912m active users, 828m is mostly engaged in Taobao and Tmall - a dominant China retail marketplace. 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&nbsp; 从短期的绝对跌幅来说，是有一些超预期的。但从行情发展本身而言，此前提及过白银面临补跌的时间周期风险只是得到了必须的释放而已。黄金和白银依然有较大的机会在此完成下跌的最后一棒，随后进入属于自己的节奏中。&nbsp; 白银补跌 时间周期匹配&nbsp; 在7月19日的<a href=\"https://www.laohu8.com/post/173252261?invite=WEGPT&amp;lang=zh_CN\" target=\"_blank\">文章</a>中，曾经和大家预告了白银未来3-4周（当时算起）面临补跌的风险，价格可能会再度测试低位。事实的情况也是如此，本周时间周期刚好进入到第九次信号之中。价格和时间都满足了市场补跌行情的需求。 当然，从目前的短期趋势来说，假设和猜测白银已经触底是有一些左侧交易的意思。日线和更短一些的周期都还未给出明确的反转向上的信号。如果周线可以留下不错的下影线的话，后续低位盘旋的机会可以考虑构建投机性的多单。中长期的投资者，则不用太多考虑成本些许差异，无杠杆或者低杠杆的模式下，耐心就是赚钱的利器。&nbsp; 黄金行情有变数么？&nbsp; 黄金短暂跌破1700，又一次提供了短期的投机**易机会，跟跌白银的力度还是超出了预估范围。当前1750均价的长期投资头寸处于小幅浮亏状态之中，不过考虑到1750-1900+的过山车都已经坐过，应该也不会太担忧这种短期波动。&nbsp; 从价格来看，年内的黄金低位1680附近的支持情况还是较为关键的。我们正在观察未来1-2周及8月的收线情况。确认跌破的话将会明显影响到短期的多头信心，并且引发止损卖盘的出现。1700下方投机多单需要考虑将上述价格作为离","listText":"周一早间黄金白银出现大跳水行情，黄金一度跌破1700整数关口，勉强守住年内低点后反弹修正。白银同样出现重挫，对去年9-11月的低点平台进行了测试。 &nbsp; 从短期的绝对跌幅来说，是有一些超预期的。但从行情发展本身而言，此前提及过白银面临补跌的时间周期风险只是得到了必须的释放而已。黄金和白银依然有较大的机会在此完成下跌的最后一棒，随后进入属于自己的节奏中。&nbsp; 白银补跌 时间周期匹配&nbsp; 在7月19日的<a 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当然，从目前的短期趋势来说，假设和猜测白银已经触底是有一些左侧交易的意思。日线和更短一些的周期都还未给出明确的反转向上的信号。如果周线可以留下不错的下影线的话，后续低位盘旋的机会可以考虑构建投机性的多单。中长期的投资者，则不用太多考虑成本些许差异，无杠杆或者低杠杆的模式下，耐心就是赚钱的利器。 黄金行情有变数么？ 黄金短暂跌破1700，又一次提供了短期的投机**易机会，跟跌白银的力度还是超出了预估范围。当前1750均价的长期投资头寸处于小幅浮亏状态之中，不过考虑到1750-1900+的过山车都已经坐过，应该也不会太担忧这种短期波动。 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面对AMD的强势来袭，英特尔却宣布将主要精力放在芯片制造领域，似乎有种 “抵挡不了AMD的赶超，干脆放弃” 的感觉。 于是，在多重因素下，AMD的股价腾飞了！ 有投资者认为，AMD已经从一名跟着随着逆袭成为了领跑者，未来的市值极有可能赶超英特尔。 目前，AMD市值1441亿美元，距离<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/INTC\">$英特尔(INTC)$</a> 2187亿美元的市值，仍有50%的上涨空间。 …… 最后，大家聊一聊： 你是否看好AMD？ 你认为AMD的市值能超越英特尔吗？ 精彩留言用户可获得888社区积分噢！","listText":"得益于财报大超预期，<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMD\">$AMD(AMD)$</a> 一尘崛起，股价六连阳： 据了解，面对主要竞争对手英特尔，AMD专注于产品设计与研发，选择用外包的方式，把代工交给<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSM\">$台积电(TSM)$</a> 。 这样强强联手的结果，使得AMD的产品优势逐渐突出，斩获了更高的市场占有率。 更令资本市场青睐AMD的原因，还有： 面对AMD的强势来袭，英特尔却宣布将主要精力放在芯片制造领域，似乎有种 “抵挡不了AMD的赶超，干脆放弃” 的感觉。 于是，在多重因素下，AMD的股价腾飞了！ 有投资者认为，AMD已经从一名跟着随着逆袭成为了领跑者，未来的市值极有可能赶超英特尔。 目前，AMD市值1441亿美元，距离<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/INTC\">$英特尔(INTC)$</a> 2187亿美元的市值，仍有50%的上涨空间。 …… 最后，大家聊一聊： 你是否看好AMD？ 你认为AMD的市值能超越英特尔吗？ 精彩留言用户可获得888社区积分噢！","text":"得益于财报大超预期，$AMD(AMD)$ 一尘崛起，股价六连阳： 据了解，面对主要竞争对手英特尔，AMD专注于产品设计与研发，选择用外包的方式，把代工交给$台积电(TSM)$ 。 这样强强联手的结果，使得AMD的产品优势逐渐突出，斩获了更高的市场占有率。 更令资本市场青睐AMD的原因，还有： 面对AMD的强势来袭，英特尔却宣布将主要精力放在芯片制造领域，似乎有种 “抵挡不了AMD的赶超，干脆放弃” 的感觉。 于是，在多重因素下，AMD的股价腾飞了！ 有投资者认为，AMD已经从一名跟着随着逆袭成为了领跑者，未来的市值极有可能赶超英特尔。 目前，AMD市值1441亿美元，距离$英特尔(INTC)$ 2187亿美元的市值，仍有50%的上涨空间。 …… 最后，大家聊一聊： 你是否看好AMD？ 你认为AMD的市值能超越英特尔吗？ 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This sends a spook across investors and spiral down to gaming stocks such as Tencent and Netease which dropped more than 10% this morning. 1.) China already imposed gaming curfew for minors in 201","listText":"This will be a quick post to touch upon the 3 things that are related to gaming industry, particularly Tencent - given that it is currently the talk of the town at the moment.<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00700\">$TENCENT(00700)$</a> In case you have not heard of the news that were circulating this morning, China's state-run Economic Information Journal Daily - stole today's headline by titling the article \"Spiritual Opium Grows into Hundreds of Billions of Industries\", which likened online games as hazardous especially to young people and seek to regulate them as soon as possible. This sends a spook across investors and spiral down to gaming stocks such as Tencent and Netease which dropped more than 10% this morning. 1.) China already imposed gaming curfew for minors in 201","text":"This will be a quick post to touch upon the 3 things that are related to gaming industry, particularly Tencent - given that it is currently the talk of the town at the moment.$TENCENT(00700)$ In case you have not heard of the news that were circulating this morning, China's state-run Economic Information Journal Daily - stole today's headline by titling the article \"Spiritual Opium Grows into Hundreds of Billions of Industries\", which likened online games as hazardous especially to young people and seek to regulate them as soon as possible. This sends a spook across investors and spiral down to gaming stocks such as Tencent and Netease which dropped more than 10% this morning. 1.) 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