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马化云大战雷强军
2022-10-28
今天的腾讯是谁？
连跌后股价上涨4.55%，腾讯还是腾讯
马化云大战雷强军
2022-10-19
尊重任何人说话的权利，但是否可以不要丢中国人的脸？
李斌：特斯拉如果不改进产品和服务，很快会被市场淘汰
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If they don’t improve their products fast enough or don’t provide good services, they will quickly be pushed out of the market.</b></blockquote><p><b>进军德国是为啥？</b></p><p>李斌开门见山，就是要成为一个全球性的品牌。</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO.SI\">蔚来</a>创始人称，已经做好了技术准备和战略规划，就是要为“成为全球品牌”而前进，蔚来会在当地建立蔚来中心，为用户提供合适的产品。</p><p>但目前在德国，蔚来提供的产品还不是直接销售汽车，而是通过租赁的方式。</p><p>更早之前，李斌在发布会上说，在调研后发现德国企业用车市场存在机会，蔚来以只租不卖的方式，最合适。</p><p>德国是全球汽车的发明之地，更是传统豪强的故乡，李斌对德国车企有100%的敬意。</p><p>他说德国车企的销量目前是蔚来的20倍，自己从这些巨头身上学到了很多。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fc4fa0f56e1ee29ca48e71b67053eb2a\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"294\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>但蔚来并非没有优势。</p><p>蔚来的优势是年轻（笑），以及产品面向未来打造。比如最新的旗舰车型ET7，配备了激光雷达和高清摄像头等多传感器，让驾驶和座舱都有了不一样的体验。</p><p>另外，蔚来还是用户导向型体验，从用户需求出发去提供产品和服务，比如换电方案，还有<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">智能</a>驾驶的订阅服务等等。</p><p>李斌强调，蔚来不仅仅是一家造车公司，蔚来已经在中国建立起了一个车主社区，打算在德国也建一个。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fac7ae364de234c74b096be6fc6095b6\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"339\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>斌言斌语评价特斯拉</b></p><p>那如何评价电动车友商特斯拉？因为李斌说也有进军美国的计划。</p><p>相比对德国燃油车企表现出的敬意，李斌对特斯拉的认可并非100%。</p><p>一方面，李斌认为特斯拉值得尊敬，特别是在技术研发、生产制造效率和成本控制等方面。</p><p>但更重要的一方面，李斌认为蔚来与特斯拉有很大的不同。</p><p>“特斯拉重视技术，在汽车工业从燃油向电动转换进程中功不可没，但现在依然面临很大压力，如果不改进产品和服务，会很快被市场淘汰。”</p><p>李斌强调，蔚来是用户导向型企业，技术对蔚来很重要，但会更关注用户。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0509bfcbd5db9b248afe138f4cb1dade\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"547\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>蔚来CEO还被问及如何评价特斯拉CEO马斯克，他打了个比方：</p><p>我会直接跟用户交流，而不是发个推弄个公告通知。</p><p>“显然我是做得更好的那一个。”</p><blockquote>Besides, I’m the better dancer…</blockquote><p>李斌还表示，虽然现如今蔚来还不是一家盈利公司，原因是在基础平台建设上花费投入资源，但相比特斯拉用时16年才盈利，蔚来会好得多。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/aceed36c874ae58db7152ad88da2d12c\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"292\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>至于何时进军特斯拉大本营美国，李斌给出的时间表是2025年年底。</p><p>但目前美国已经颁发了《降低通胀法案》，不利于外国汽车制造商生产和进入，蔚来或许会进一步观望一番。</p><p>李斌还谈到了更多的目标，比如到2030年，能够跻身全球车企TOP5.</p><p>但这种计划还需要借助子品牌，蔚来前不久已经释放了代号ALPS（阿尔卑斯）的进展，这是一个传说中的子品牌：产品价格更低，两年内上市。</p><p>蔚来要以更低的价格，更大规模的量产销售，赢取更多市场。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2ddb0d659263553f4055045a4ef04bfa\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"560\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>目前蔚来月交付徘徊在万台左右。最近的9月，蔚来新车交付量为10878台，第三季度新车交付量为31607台，同比增长29.3%，创下季度交付量历史新高。截止目前，蔚来新车已累计交付249504台。</p><p>而作为对比，特斯拉同样在9月，仅中国市场就完成了8.3万台的月度交付。同样是2022年第三季度，特斯拉全球生产了超过36.5万辆车，交付了超过34.3万辆车。</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1611665793971","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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If they don’t improve their products fast enough or don’t provide good services, they will quickly be pushed out of the market.进军德国是为啥？李斌开门见山，就是要成为一个全球性的品牌。蔚来创始人称，已经做好了技术准备和战略规划，就是要为“成为全球品牌”而前进，蔚来会在当地建立蔚来中心，为用户提供合适的产品。但目前在德国，蔚来提供的产品还不是直接销售汽车，而是通过租赁的方式。更早之前，李斌在发布会上说，在调研后发现德国企业用车市场存在机会，蔚来以只租不卖的方式，最合适。德国是全球汽车的发明之地，更是传统豪强的故乡，李斌对德国车企有100%的敬意。他说德国车企的销量目前是蔚来的20倍，自己从这些巨头身上学到了很多。但蔚来并非没有优势。蔚来的优势是年轻（笑），以及产品面向未来打造。比如最新的旗舰车型ET7，配备了激光雷达和高清摄像头等多传感器，让驾驶和座舱都有了不一样的体验。另外，蔚来还是用户导向型体验，从用户需求出发去提供产品和服务，比如换电方案，还有智能驾驶的订阅服务等等。李斌强调，蔚来不仅仅是一家造车公司，蔚来已经在中国建立起了一个车主社区，打算在德国也建一个。斌言斌语评价特斯拉那如何评价电动车友商特斯拉？因为李斌说也有进军美国的计划。相比对德国燃油车企表现出的敬意，李斌对特斯拉的认可并非100%。一方面，李斌认为特斯拉值得尊敬，特别是在技术研发、生产制造效率和成本控制等方面。但更重要的一方面，李斌认为蔚来与特斯拉有很大的不同。“特斯拉重视技术，在汽车工业从燃油向电动转换进程中功不可没，但现在依然面临很大压力，如果不改进产品和服务，会很快被市场淘汰。”李斌强调，蔚来是用户导向型企业，技术对蔚来很重要，但会更关注用户。蔚来CEO还被问及如何评价特斯拉CEO马斯克，他打了个比方：我会直接跟用户交流，而不是发个推弄个公告通知。“显然我是做得更好的那一个。”Besides, I’m the better dancer…李斌还表示，虽然现如今蔚来还不是一家盈利公司，原因是在基础平台建设上花费投入资源，但相比特斯拉用时16年才盈利，蔚来会好得多。至于何时进军特斯拉大本营美国，李斌给出的时间表是2025年年底。但目前美国已经颁发了《降低通胀法案》，不利于外国汽车制造商生产和进入，蔚来或许会进一步观望一番。李斌还谈到了更多的目标，比如到2030年，能够跻身全球车企TOP5.但这种计划还需要借助子品牌，蔚来前不久已经释放了代号ALPS（阿尔卑斯）的进展，这是一个传说中的子品牌：产品价格更低，两年内上市。蔚来要以更低的价格，更大规模的量产销售，赢取更多市场。目前蔚来月交付徘徊在万台左右。最近的9月，蔚来新车交付量为10878台，第三季度新车交付量为31607台，同比增长29.3%，创下季度交付量历史新高。截止目前，蔚来新车已累计交付249504台。而作为对比，特斯拉同样在9月，仅中国市场就完成了8.3万台的月度交付。同样是2022年第三季度，特斯拉全球生产了超过36.5万辆车，交付了超过34.3万辆车。","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1458,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"hots":[{"id":662916129,"gmtCreate":1666139919561,"gmtModify":1666143736057,"author":{"id":"3574240743407440","authorId":"3574240743407440","name":"马化云大战雷强军","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/10e285cdb8d549d6563e82b6abe109da","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3574240743407440","idStr":"3574240743407440"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"尊重任何人说话的权利，但是否可以不要丢中国人的脸？","listText":"尊重任何人说话的权利，但是否可以不要丢中国人的脸？","text":"尊重任何人说话的权利，但是否可以不要丢中国人的脸？","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/662916129","repostId":"1173533160","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1458,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":665396449,"gmtCreate":1666937786782,"gmtModify":1666939087001,"author":{"id":"3574240743407440","authorId":"3574240743407440","name":"马化云大战雷强军","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/10e285cdb8d549d6563e82b6abe109da","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3574240743407440","idStr":"3574240743407440"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"今天的腾讯是谁？","listText":"今天的腾讯是谁？","text":"今天的腾讯是谁？","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/665396449","repostId":"2278727698","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1560,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}
