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RonnieSG
2022-02-15
Elon Musk delivers what he said. That is the difference between him and others who promised but under-delivers
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RonnieSG
2022-02-08
Cheers to China
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RonnieSG
2022-02-05
This will come sooner than expected. Many analysts are now acknowledging this could happen. Farewell to legacy autos
【券商聚焦】摩根士丹利:料2027年特斯拉(TSLA)收入超过通用汽车(GM)、福特(F)总和
RonnieSG
2022-02-05
2022 will be even bigger with a new plant and a renewed focus on Energy Storage. Their order books are full and overflowing. Time to take advantage of this unrecogonized potential.
[开心]
[财迷]
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RonnieSG
2022-02-04
Start of many more to come as they realize the real value of Tesla investment. Good for everyone as the world becomes cleaner. Great move
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RonnieSG
2022-02-02
Totally agree. This is what the stock market it. It rewards the Brave and eat up the scary ones. Buythe dip for long term growth
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RonnieSG
2022-02-01
Great that the realize that they can get more in the end by investing in Tesla. Same for many loyal Tesla investors. No wrong
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RonnieSG
2022-02-01
A Great Start to the Chinese New Year Celebrations ! Huat ah
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RonnieSG
2022-01-26
What will happen to the stock price if Cybertruck will be produced in 2022? It will make a sky high shot up the moon
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RonnieSG
2022-01-25
This is the nature of a volatile market; let it settle and collect the wins
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RonnieSG
2022-01-25
Great, bought on the dip. Going to the Moon now
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RonnieSG
2022-01-22
The Fed will unwind its policy to create another boost to the market. They cannot afford a drop at this time
美股科技股集体走弱,奈飞(NFLX.O)跌超25%,特斯拉(TSLA.O)...
RonnieSG
2022-01-22
Good opportunity during this dip. Buy when everyone is scared. Wait for the rebounce
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RonnieSG
2022-01-12
Ramping up is hard/ Making a Prototype is easy. Great thoughts
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RonnieSG
2022-01-12
Great for Tesl, Great for China. The World will benefit from the EVs non-polluting nature of transportation.
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RonnieSG
2022-01-08
He is Human after all. We all expect the best outcome in every challenge
特斯拉马斯克访谈实录:SpaceX载人飞船上天前我曾跪地祈祷
RonnieSG
2022-01-08
Better time to get in before the Upswing. Another chance
特斯拉跌幅扩大至5% 报1010美元
RonnieSG
2022-01-05
AGREE TOTALLY.
德银:特斯拉四季度惊喜只是前奏 强势姿态将会延续到2022年全
RonnieSG
2022-01-03
Surely, The Street will get a great upswing tonight
Tesla Stock Set to Open Higher After Smashing 4Q Delivery Estimates
RonnieSG
2022-01-03
Great momentum for all member countries in this arrangement Great for the World
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src=\"http://n.sinaimg.cn/front20220107ac/586/w1919h1067/20220107/0498-c4587b849459ad0e0fdb8ccc4d354bfc.jpg\"/>\n<em><span></span></em>\n</span>\n<font>马斯克卫星碰瓷中国空间站 网友:有必要给中国空间站装一把大剪子了!</font>\n</p><p>原标题:1.6 万字<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>马斯克访谈实录:Space X载人飞船上天前,我曾跪地祈祷</p>\n<p>来源:车东西</p>\n<figure>\n<img h=\"434\" src=\"http://n.sinaimg.cn/spider20220108/454/w820h434/20220108/9ab2-ac72a8b9bb8038994a2fe79ffd637b19.jpg\" w=\"820\"/>\n<h2></h2>\n</figure>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">想要深入了解马斯克的所思所想?想要了解特斯拉和Space X面临的技术挑战?一场两个半小时视频对话,足以满足你的大部分好奇!</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">就在 9 天之前,Youtube知名科技UP主,拥有143万粉丝的大V Lex Fridman与马斯克进行了一场长达2小时31分47秒的深度对话,从Space X的载人飞船、猛禽火箭、殖民火星,一口气聊到特斯拉面临的自动驾驶工程难题,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300024\">机器人</a>,以及马斯克知名的第一性思考原则。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">作为一个对话类节目,发布在油管上的这个视频除了主播与马斯克两个人,并没有其他任何画面。但这不重要,重要的是Lex Fridman的 78 问都问到了点子上,既有技术原理、观点和看法,也有马斯克的心路历程与日常生活细节。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">对话中的马斯克也非常活跃、真诚。见面伊始,他直接对着麦克风又唱又抖,搞得跟明星录播现场一样。</p>\n<p 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年,我们还没有进行过第二次登月。这是否意味着我们的技术已经达到顶峰?所以我认为我们必须再次登陆月球,在那里建立一个科学基地,就像南极洲和世界其他地方的科学基地一样。在那里,我们能了解到更多关于宇宙本质的东西。</p>\n<figure>\n<img h=\"461\" src=\"http://n.sinaimg.cn/spider20220108/481/w820h461/20220108/e1cd-8cee9c1e5e2013ea98663e6cb0b4ddc5.jpg\" w=\"820\"/>\n<h2>▲ 阿波罗号登月</h2>\n</figure>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">我认为这一切都是相关联的,所以这就是我认为的下一件大事 —— 建造一个基地,然后把人类送上火星,建立火星文明。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">5、Lex Fridman:下面我会采访您其中的一些细节。由于您忙于处理工程挑战,你还有精力惊叹于太空旅行或是每次火箭升空的神奇之处?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">你有没有对将要面临的挑战有不知所措的感觉?5 月 30 日Space X首次载人飞行的任务已经过去一段时间了,你现在可以回顾一下它对你产生的影响。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">当时影响你最深的可能是工程问题,但现在这已经成为了一个历史性时刻。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">你觉得 21 世纪值得被人铭记的时刻有哪些?对我个人而言,其中的一个时刻可能就是 Inspiration 4 Mission,它或许会作为人类在新太空探索时代的早期尝试被铭记。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:关于这次飞行,我想也许有些人知道,但更多的人都不知道。其实这就像,我实际上是Space X的首席工程师,我在所有的工程设计项目上都签了字,因此如果任何设备有任何问题,本质上都是我的错。所以我实际上脑子里想的都是工程设计。</p>\n<p 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RD 发动机的室压应该在 267Bar 左右。而提升室压的难度是以非线性方式增加的,因此,增加 10% 的室压更像增加了 50% 的难度,发动机需要获得更高的功率密度。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">这样就有了很高的推量比和很高的比冲量。因此,特定脉冲就像是火箭发动机效率的衡量标准,它实际上是发动机排出气体的有效排气速度。所以在一个非常高的压力下,你可以有一个紧凑的发动机,尽管如此它还是有一个高膨胀率,也就是出口喷管和喉部之间的比率。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">8、Lex Fridman:那为什么猛禽是一种难以大规模量产的发动机?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:它的构造非常复杂。发动机有很多零部件和很多独特的材料。因此,我们不得不发明几种不存在的合金,以使发动机工作,这是材料问题。此外,在一个全流量分级燃烧系统中,有很多反馈回路,推进剂和热气同时流向发动机的不同的地方,而且它们都对彼此有一个递归的影响。所以如果这里改变一些,那里就会受到一些影响,再去改变别处,事情就很难控制了。这也是为什么以前没有人做过这类发动机。我们之所以做一个阶段性燃烧的全流发动机,是因为理论上其效率最高。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">为了制造一个完全可重复使用的火箭,必须把一切都做到极致 —— 制造最好的发动机、最好的机身、最好的热屏蔽、最好的航空电子设备以及超<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">智能</a>控制机制。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">例如,在减轻发动机自身质量上,我们不在助推器上安装着陆腿,而是用塔架承接返回的发动机。所以这就像是用一双筷子手臂在一座巨大的塔上抓住有史以来最大的飞行物一样。或者说这和空手道小子抓苍蝇一样,只不过这只苍蝇要大得多。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">9、Lex Fridman:你提到在一些时刻,你会怀疑这是否能够实现,因为这是非常困难的。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:可能实现的一点是,我认为Space X会让星舰运转起来。这只是一个时间问题,我们要花多长时间来做这件事?我们要花多长时间才能真正实现火箭全面和迅速地重复使用?在其能够达到全面并迅速地重复使用前,需要多次发射试验。这些试验我可以用物理学计算。</p>\n<figure>\n<img h=\"489\" src=\"http://n.sinaimg.cn/spider20220108/509/w820h489/20220108/dfe6-f33611e3ed7e6fd854e35e49f7e94e34.jpg\" w=\"820\"/>\n<h2>▲Space X测试火箭发射</h2>\n</figure>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">我对成功充满信心,计算结果在预测成功区间内。在 Space X,我们有一支天才团队,他们夜以继日地工作,让愿景成为现实 —— 实现航天革命和使人类成为星际文明的关键,要有一个完全和快速可重复使用的轨道火箭。在这之前,从来没有一支轨道火箭是完全可重复使用的。而这一直是火箭技术的梦想,许多人曾试图这么做,但都没有成功。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">10、Lex Fridman:你知道有很多人,包括许多专家、记者和一般的公众,都对可重复使用的火箭表示怀疑。而你自己认为这是一个非空集,虽然成功比较困难,但你还是全身心地投入,作为一名工程师、团队的一份子去负责推进这个项目,将其完成。你的力量来源是什么?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:我只是知道自己思考问题的方式。对我来说,这是一件很重要的事情,我们应该继续做下去,否则就会失败。而我也不需要什么力量来源。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">11、Lex Fridman:所以放弃不是你的性格?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:放弃这两个字不在我的字典里,管他乐观还是悲观,都滚蛋,干就完了!</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">12、Lex Fridman:你能不能再放大到星舰的具体问题或你工作的任何工程问题上?你能不能试着描述下你思考问题的方式?比如不同的工程和设计问题?是否有一个系统的过程?你已经说过了思考的第一原则,但是否有一个过程?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:物理学是基础,其他都是建议。我见过很多违反法律的人,但还没有见过可以违反物理学的人。如果是技术问题,你只需要确保自己没有违反物理学。另外,第一原则是分析,我认为分析可以应用于任何生活中所出现的事情。实际上,我们可以把一些事情归结为最基本的原则。物理学有些基础知识,比如说能量守恒定律,如果你违反了物理学,这件事就不可能完成。另一个方法是在极限中思考问题,如果你在思考一件事情的同时,把它扩展到一个非常大的范畴或一个非常小的范畴,事情会发生什么变化?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">13、Lex Fridman:在火箭的制造中也是如此?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:是的,以制造为例,我认为这是一个被严重低估的问题。就像我说的,把一个先进的技术产品量产,比设计这款产品更难。假设你想弄清楚为什么这个零件或产品很贵?是因为我们在做一些蠢事吗?还是因为我们的产量太低?所以你想,如果每年的产量是一百万台呢?那还贵吗?这就是我的激进之处,把事情考虑到极限。如果一年一百万台还是很贵,那么数量就不是你的东西贵的原因,根本问题出在设计上。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">14、Lex Fridman:然后你就可以专注于降低设计的复杂性。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:是的,这样一来必须改变设计,改变零部件,从根本解决价格问题。这在火箭领域很常见,因为产量相对较低,所以一个常见的借口是:“火箭价格很昂贵,是因为我们产量低。如果(我们)是在汽车或消费电子领域,成本就不会这么高了。”</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">我心里想的是,如果现在每年生产一百万支火箭,那火箭单价还会这么贵吗?如果答案是肯定的,那么规模经济就不是问题了。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">15、Lex Fridman:你是否将其纳入制造业或供应链中?当你考虑资源和原料时,会不会把这些因素放到第一原则分析中?比如供应链如何运作?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:正是如此,举一个在极限中思考问题的例子,这一方法对制造所有产品来说都很适用。如果你看一下火箭的原材料,你会发现原料有铝、钢、钛合金、特种合金、铜等等。</p>\n<figure>\n<img h=\"587\" src=\"http://n.sinaimg.cn/spider20220108/607/w820h587/20220108/3e5c-36f0ea5ce3605cbec4ce98c38ed0c7d2.jpg\" w=\"820\"/>\n<h2>▲Space XStarship 火箭发射</h2>\n</figure>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">每个部件的组成元素的重量是多少,它们的原材料价值是多少?在不改变原材料的情况下,以上几个问题为火箭的成本设定了渐近极限。在原材料不变时,你把比例看作一个神奇的数字,在不断计算后,把原子排列成最终的形状,这将是你产品的最低成本。实际上产品成本的高低在于如何将原子放到所需的形状中。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">16、Lex Fridman:我想先讲一段故事,我经常和 Jim Keller 聊天,他曾经与你共事过。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:Jim 在特斯拉做得很好。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">17、Lex Fridman:所以我想他也受到了你的启发,思考问题的方式应该和你相似。同样,其他在特斯拉和Space X工作的人也具备同样的思维。他们都学会了这种思维方式,而且非常明显。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">Jim 曾跟我说过,Tesla Bot 的成本可能不高。当时我们有过争论,我不相信他说的,规模量产的成本不可能低。目前为止,我已经与学术界和仿真机器人领域的专家进行了多次沟通,他们研发仿人机器人和动力机器人的成本高昂。Jim 则持有不同观点,他说:“第一原则就是降低制造成本。”我想你就是这样做的,你已经在特斯拉汽车和各种先前被视为复杂的系统上做了同样的思考。你的原话是:“我们现在如何把它简化?”</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:是的,我认为如果某企业善于制造,那基本上也可以大批量制造。产品的制造成本渐进式地接近其原材料价值,再加上你需要取得的任何知识产权。这是一件非常困难的事情,但对任何东西来说都是可能的。因此一个产品在最初设计时,经常发生的情况是,人们从他们熟悉的工具、部件和方法开始,然后试图用他们现有的工具和方法制造这个产品。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">另一种思考方式是尝试想象完美产品或技术,不管它是什么。然后想:“原子怎样才能完美地排列?让我们试着找出如何获得这种形状的物品”。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">19、Lex Fridman:在开始认真思考前,这种方式听起来其实有点儿“瑞克和莫蒂”(美国科幻喜剧动画片)式的荒谬。如果大家按照以前的思考方式做事经常受挫,那么真的应该用这种方式来思考。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:常见的思考方式其实是一种惯性功能。人们更倾向于使用他们熟悉的工具和方法,导致做出的东西不太可能是完美产品。所以这就是为什么要从两个方向来考虑问题:第一,可以用我们的工具建造什么;第二,理论上的完美产品是什么样的?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">因为你学习得越多,对完美产品的定义也会改变。在此之前,你实际上不知道完美的产品会是什么样的,但你可以制造一个近似于完美的产品。具备了以上两个思考方向,你应该会想:“现在我们需要创造什么工具、方法、材料才能让原子变成需要的形状?”</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">这种思考方式很有效,但很少人这么想。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L strong-Bold\">02。 最晚 10 年后送人上火星 火星最好用加密货币 </p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">20、Lex Fridman:下面我们来谈谈火星,你之前提到了,在月球上建一个科学基地,进行一些研究,这对科学界来说是非常有益的。但其实真正的飞跃,在这个看似不可能的类别中 —— 让人类登陆火星。你觉得Space X未来多久会把人类送上火星?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:最早是 5 年后,最晚是 10 年后。</p>\n<figure>\n<img h=\"491\" src=\"http://n.sinaimg.cn/spider20220108/491/w800h491/20220108/8e90-22ee8721297c2f8ee30b109d615ade7d.jpg\" w=\"800\"/>\n<h2>▲Space X设想的外星基地</h2>\n</figure>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">21、Lex Fridman:决定因素是什么?你觉得是由工程方面的因素决定的吗?还是说工程因素并不是瓶颈问题?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:根本上来说还是星舰的设计,Starship 星舰是有史以来最复杂的先进火箭,我不知道决定因素是什么,或许是星舰的规模等类似的因素吧。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">星舰很大,先前的飞船同我们的星舰相比,不是一个重量水平。因此星舰的基本优化是最大限度地减少每吨的入轨成本,并最终减少到登陆火星表面的成本。优化成本似乎是一个商业目标,但它实际上是需要优化的东西。登陆火星表面的每吨成本是固定的,之后我们可以在那里再建立一个自给自足的城市。除此之外,我们所能做的就微乎其微了。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">现在去火星的往返成本大约是 1 万亿美元,但有再多的钱也买不到去火星的船票。其实要把人送上火星也不是不可能,但我们想要的不仅是登陆火星在上面树立旗帜留下脚印,然后和登陆月球一样,半个世纪都不回去一次。我们想在火星定居,长久地生存在那儿,我认为人类需要成为一个多星球定居的物种。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">可能这对很多人来说有些深奥,但随着时间的推移,地球很可能会经历一些灾难,这可能是人类行为产生的结果,或者是气候突变等外部原因造成了全球性的灾难,人类的命运或许会同恐龙一样。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">如果发生这种情况,人类将以某种方式继续生存,太阳逐渐变大,最终会吞噬地球。地球可能会在 500 万年后变得很热,不适合人类居住。虽然这个时间还很长,但也只比地球存在的时间长 10%。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">但是地球已经存在了 45 亿年,这也是 45 亿年来第一次有可能将生命延伸到地球之外的行星。机会之窗可能会开放很长一段时间,在机会之窗开启时,迅速采取行动是明智的。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">22、Lex Fridman:核威胁、疫情以及各种风险会给我们一些动力。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:我的意思是,文明可能会因人口崩溃而消失,或是因为第三次世界大战消失。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">这些都充满了不确定性。我认为人类的未来在很大概率上是好的。但是每个世纪都有 1% 的可能会让一个文明终结,斯蒂芬・霍金也有类似的预言。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">他很大概率是对的。我们应该把人类看作是一个多星球居住的物种,就像给生命买保险一样。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">我们把植物和生物送上火星,给这个星球注入生命,让它成为第二个有生命存在的星球。它们仅凭自己无法前往火星,如果Space X不把人类带上火星,那么等到太阳膨胀使地球无法居住的时候,人类就会灭绝。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">23、Lex Fridman:你认为在火星建立文明最困难的部分是什么?是从工程层面改造火星?还是经济层面或是人类层面?让这些人永远在火星定居,不返回地球。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:我认为他们还是会返回地球的。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">24、Lex Fridman:但有些人会选择永远定居火星。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:是的,我相信很多人会,但是我们要造的是一艘可以随时往返的星舰。制造星舰的成本昂贵,我们要的是一艘可以重复使用的星舰,同时记录这些人前往火星的旅程。</p>\n<figure>\n<img h=\"450\" src=\"http://n.sinaimg.cn/spider20220108/450/w800h450/20220108/32f6-0f277dc7480f8d8e5c460dc683a24fdc.jpg\" w=\"800\"/>\n<h2>▲Space X设想的火星基地</h2>\n</figure>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">25、Lex Fridman:你考虑过把火星地球化的成本吗?比如一些实际的建造事宜?你现在是否专注于建设登陆火星的飞船?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:当然考虑过。但是首先要解决如何到达火星这件事,如果连火星都去不了,那再讨论其他事情就没有任何意义了。我现在所思考的就是要降低到达火星的成本。目前,平均每吨重量到达火星的成本在 10 亿美元(约合人民币 63.8 亿元)左右,这些成本不仅包括制造火箭、发射,还包括隔热、导航系统、太空通信以及着陆系统。因此,10 亿美元(约合人民币 63.8 亿元)只是粗略估计。但这显然有些昂贵,而且无法创造一个可以自给自足的文明,所以我们需要把成本至少缩减一千倍。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">26、Lex Fridman:把登陆成本控制在每吨 100 万美元(约合人民币 638 万元)?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:是的,理想情况下每吨的登陆成本要远低于 100 万美元(约合人民币 638 万元)。但除此之外,还有在火星上建立一座自给自足的城市成本。这一部分是关键,如果因为一些原因,地球不再向火星发送飞船,这里(火星)的人类也应该能生存下去。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">千里之堤,溃于蚁穴,就是这个道理,只要缺少一个关键部分,那么这就不算一个自给自足的城市。就像一个人如果在海上远行,除了维生素 C 之外,他什么都有,但他知道没有维生素 C 早晚都会死去。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">所以我们要让火星的城市拥有自我维持的能力,我不确定在我的有生之年是否能够看到这一景象,但我喜欢能看到这个城市能够建立的可能。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">你可能会问我:“建造一个自我维持的城市,飞船需要搭载的最低吨位是多少?”</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">这里面有很多不确定因素,我也不知道,因为需要在火星上建设大量的基础设施,比如半导体工厂,矿石冶炼厂等,所以重量至少是一百万吨。而且火星是最不适合居住的行星之一,但它比地球离太阳更远。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">27、Lex Fridman:是的,范围仅限于在太阳系中。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:是的,在太阳系里。太阳系也可能有更适宜人类居住的行星,但是我们达到不了。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">28、Lex Fridman:太难了?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:是的,非常非常困难。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">29、Lex Fridman:其实我们可以换个思路,你刚才提到过物理学是你的出发点,而广义相对论认为虫洞是存在的。你认为人类可以利用虫洞来进行光速的旅行吗?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:虫洞的事情是值得商榷的,但我们目前还不知道有什么方法可以超过光速。其实还有一些空间理论的说法,在空间内让一个物体以光速移动,再让空间本身移动,这其实叫做扭曲空间,这个速度能够超过光的移动速度。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">就像宇宙大爆炸,宇宙爆炸的速度远远超过了光速。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">30、Lex Fridman:是的。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:扭曲空间需要巨大的能量。究竟是多少,目前还未可知。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">31、Lex Fridman:你在火箭的推进方面,有多少创新?能把(火箭)推进的效率提升 10 倍吗?你在物理学中找到可以使发动机效率得到明显改善的方法了吗?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:正如我所说的,火箭技术真正的梦想,是建立一个完全和快速可重复使用的轨道系统。而猎鹰 9 号是唯一可重复使用的火箭,在Space X的视频中你能看到,火箭能够返回并且成功着陆,同时我们成功回收了火箭整流罩的前锥体,但是我们没有成功回收上半段。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">这意味着我们在建造上半段火箭时会把成本控至最低。猎鹰 9 号是一种两级火箭,可以看作是两架飞机,一架大的和一架小的,大飞机成功收回,而小飞机则没有。不过上半段火箭的成本也很高,至少在 1000 万美元(约为 6372 万元人民币)左右。</p>\n<figure>\n<img h=\"462\" src=\"http://n.sinaimg.cn/spider20220108/482/w820h462/20220108/79de-759b0a71c900d97b35ebeb6af268198d.jpg\" w=\"820\"/>\n<h2>▲Space X猎鹰 9 号</h2>\n</figure>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">现在猎鹰 9 号的重复使用程度还达不到我们所希望的水平。猎鹰 9 号每次的发射成本不包含在我们最低的边际成本中,火箭的单次的发射成本在 1500 万美元(约为 9557 万元人民币)到 2000 万美元(约为 1.27 亿元人民币)左右,这已经是有史以来最低的火箭发射成本了。除此之外,我们正致力于推进火箭的迅速复用,如果成功,那么希火箭入轨的每吨成本有望降低 100 倍。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">试想一下,如果你有一架飞机或一辆汽车,你每次开车都要买一辆新车,那会很贵。但如果你给汽车加油或充电,这样就把你的出行成本降低了 1000 倍,这个道理在火箭领域也一样适用。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">众所周知,制造火箭是很困难的一件事。所以如果我不能重复利用火箭的话,那么我可以舍弃一些构造,哪怕是重要的部分,看看是不是能达成我想要的目标,结果证明是可以的。所以理论上星舰也可以计算每次发射的成本,比如在 100 万美元(约为 638 万元人民币)到 200 万美元(约为 1274 万元人民币)之间,然后单次发射可以运载超过 100 吨的补给。虽然现在这么看有些疯狂。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">32、Lex Fridman:是的,很不可思议。所以你想表达的是,目前猎鹰 9 号的主要目的是让其可以全面复用,而不是取得理论物理学中的某种突破。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:并没有什么辉煌的突破,造一个可以完全重复使用的火箭就已经是一个极其困难的工程问题了。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">33、Lex Fridman:我想问一个略带哲学意味的、有趣的问题。目前,你专注的是如何到达火星。如果人类一旦登陆火星,你认为火星早期的文明应该有怎样的政治经济体制?这个答案有助于人们想象未来的火星文明。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:我个人认为,火星上应该建立直接民主制度,人们可以直接对事情投票,法律必须足够简短,方便人们理解。此外,法律还需要不断更新,并且具备“法律回收”的规定,可以随时废除一些陈旧的规则和制度。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">34、Lex Fridman:你曾经说过,Space X 会把一块狗狗币放到月球上,你曾经也说过狗狗币是人民的货币,那么你是否认为狗狗币是火星的官方货币或是未来的货币?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:我认为火星本身要拥有与地球不同的货币,因为两个星球距离太远,无法实现货币的同步流通。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">35、Lex Fridman:所以火星必须有一个独立的货币体系?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:是的,因为火星离地球的距离大概是 20 光分(光子在一分钟内行走的距离)左右,也许更远,所以两个星球之间无法实现真正意义上的同步。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">我不知道未来火星是否会有加密货币,但应该会产生一种火星本地化的货币。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">36、Lex Fridman:火星上的人决定货币的形式?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:完全正确,火星的未来应该由<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300894\">火星人</a>决定。我认为加密货币本身很有趣,它可以减少数据库中的错误 —— 也就是我们所称之为货币的东西。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">我是 Paypal 的创始人之一,所以在货币的实际应用中有着相当深刻的理解。现在已经 2021 年了,银行业仍然还在购买大型机器,运行古老的 COBOL 代码。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">美联储的设备可能比银行的还要老,他们的设备是一个笨重的老式 COBOL 主机。除此之外,政府拥有货币数据库的编辑权限,他们利用这些编辑权限来获得更多的货币,这就增加了数据库中的错误 —— 也就是金钱。所以我认为应该通过信息理论的角度来看待金钱。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">可以把整个经济系统看作是一个互联网连接,有带宽、时延抖动和丢包这些网络通信中经常会出现的错误。因此我们也可以从这个角度思考货币,然后从信息理论的角度想究竟什么样的系统能使经济运行得最好。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">加密货币其实是一种尝试,以减少政府稀释货币供应量所造成的税收影响。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">37、Lex Fridman:你觉得加密货币是 21 世纪人们做交易、储存财富的新方式吗?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:钱只是一种数据,而人们往往会认为金钱本身就有力量,其实这是错误的,金钱本身并没有力量。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">在思考过程中加入物理学的观点是非常重要的,如果你是一个亿万富翁,却被困在一个热带岛屿上,那么你的钱实际上并没有价值。因为孤岛上没有资源分配,钱则是资源分配的数据库。除了你自己,岛上没有任何资源可以分配,所以钱是无用的。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">所以我们可以把货币看作是一个跨时空的资源分配数据库,这个数据库或数据系统应该以什么形式出现,才能发挥最大效果呢?目前比特币存在一个根本性的问题 —— 交易量非常有限,交易确认延迟过长。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">从这个问题的角度来看,比特币并不是一种理想的加密货币,我不否认它本身存在一定作用,比特币可能有助于解决货币数据库问题的一个方面 —— 即财富的储存或相对义务的核算 —— 但它作为一种日常货币没有用处。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">虽然狗狗币是因一个玩笑而诞生的,但我仍然认为它有很多优点。它的交易量比比特币高很多,现在如果你想做一笔比特币交易,那么这笔交易的价格非常高。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">比特币诞生在 2018 年,当时的互联网还没有现在这么先进,当时比特币的交易可能能与当时的网速同步。但现在是 2021 年,再过 10 年,这个(交易)速度会低的离谱。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">而且我认为货币的数量应该呈线性增长,如果一种货币过于紧缩,会随着时间推移而升值,那么人们就不愿意把这种货币花掉。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L strong-Bold\">03。 建立向量空间是自动驾驶最难的部分</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">38、Lex Fridman:特斯拉的 Autopilot 在过去六年中取得了令人难以置信的成就。之所以说它是令人惊叹的成就,是因为我清楚地知道这其中充满了挑战。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">我当时在麻省理工工作,同时我也有许多在 DARPA(美国国防部高级研究计划局)工作的朋友,所以非常理解计算机视觉的困难。因此,当我第一次驾驶最初基于 <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MBLY\">Mobileye</a> 自动驾驶系统的特斯拉汽车时,我持有一种怀疑态度。我认为这辆车不可能做到自主保持车道,并为驾驶员创造一种舒适的驾驶体验。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:其实车道保持很容易做到。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">39、Lex Fridman:但其实最初 Mobileye 给特斯拉的原型方案并不能解决这个问题。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:我们必须在 Mobileye 方案的基础上编写大量的代码,Mobileye 的方案并不是我们推向市场的自动驾驶方案。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">40、Lex Fridman:这其实就是 Autopilot 发展过程中的插曲 —— 你做事的方式。你习惯以一种全新的方式解决问题,这其实是我所见过的最大胆的决定,你在软件和硬件上,都做了一套全新的自动驾驶方案。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">我可能最关心和最喜欢的是 Andrej Karpathy 所领导的工作 —— 数据集的选择、数据引擎过程、神经网络架构、在实际生活中网络测试、验证的方式。与计算机视觉的图像网模型相比,这就像现实世界的人工智能。</p>\n<figure>\n<img h=\"493\" src=\"http://n.sinaimg.cn/spider20220108/543/w850h493/20220108/0b1d-013f0d74d6cb2914c590d68de58dd979.png\" w=\"850\"/>\n<h2>▲ 特斯拉 AI 主管 Andrej Karpathy</h2>\n</figure>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:Andrej 很了不起,他显然发挥了重要作用。其实我们也有很多非常有才华的人在推动这项工作,Ashock 实际上是自动驾驶工程的负责人,Andrej 是人工智能项目的负责人。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">不夸张地说,特斯拉 Autopilot 的 AI 团队聚集了世界上最顶尖的一群人。所以特斯拉的自动驾驶软件才能不断取得进展。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">41、Lex Fridman:在 Autopilot 发展的 5~6 年中,你对自动驾驶有哪些见解?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:一开始,我就知道让汽车自动驾驶是一件极其困难的事情,但在项目推进的过程中,我发现这比我想象的还要困难。要让车辆自动驾驶的基础就是重现人类的驾驶方式 —— 人类眼睛感知并用神经网络处理信息,最终完成驾驶行为。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">而特斯拉的 FSD 软件就是这样设计的,基本上是利用视觉算法和神经网络做到自动驾驶。因此,为了部署 FSD,我们需要将视觉算法和神经网络以数字的形式重建起来,摄像头有性能上的提升,同时神经网络在芯片之中。很明显,这种方式能够实现完全自动驾驶能力。并且,这是唯一的解决方案,我不相信还有其他解决方案。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">42、Lex Fridman:但问题是要把哪些类人的感知能力编码到机器当中?当人类在开车时都会注意哪些方面?比如机器要知道一个开启的车门是怎样的,这就是感知能力。系统必须首先解决感知问题,才能进一步控制、规划汽车。你必须把驾驶中涉及的内容研究透彻,这其中还有很多不同的边缘情况。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:我认为难点并不在于控制逻辑。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">43、Lex Fridman:你认为在整个问题中,什么才是最困难的部分?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:最困难的应该是建立一个准确的向量空间,因为需要太多的软件,以及大量的代码。摄像头感知图像之后形成数字信号,需要将数字信号映射到向量空间中,最终可以识别汽车、人、车道线、曲线和红绿灯等等。一旦建立起了准确的向量空间,控制车辆就会变得像玩游戏一样简单,就像是玩 GTA、赛博朋克等游戏一样。建立准确的向量空间虽然很难,但并不是不可逾越的。</p>\n<figure>\n<img h=\"383\" src=\"http://n.sinaimg.cn/spider20220108/433/w850h383/20220108/416a-7b5b4a3d6b11bc833326f4a473c3be76.png\" w=\"850\"/>\n<h2>▲ 特斯拉车主实测 FSD</h2>\n</figure>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">44、Lex Fridman:是的,人类自身的感知系统将光子映射到头脑中的向量空间是一件不可思议的事情,但大部分人都没有意识到。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:其实现在你的大脑正在处理大量的数据,为你呈现了一副非常清晰的图像。就好像我们环顾四周时,你会看到五彩缤纷的颜色,但实际上这些颜色是你眼睛的视锥细胞传递给大脑的。这种细胞能接受光刺激,能将光能转换为神经冲动,故亦称光感受器。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">你的眼睛会给看到的东西“上色”。但你并没有意识到这个过程。你的大脑在对眼睛的视觉信号进行大量的后期处理。这很不可思议,但其实人的大脑在处理一些数据的时候,也会忘记一些事情,所以记忆力也许是人类大脑最薄弱的地方。我们的记忆力是有限的,大脑在接收信息的同时也会遗忘,所以最后它最后处理完的信息其实要比大脑接收的信息要少。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">因此,你的大脑在试图创建一个向量空间,当你在开车的时候,可以思考下你的大脑在有意识地想什么。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">特斯拉的汽车用摄像头来充当眼睛,完成自动驾驶。这和人类开车的方式一样,人的眼睛就相当于两个摄像头。虽然开车时用视力观察周围的环境方式不错,但人们会分心,思考一些东西、发短信、吵架或是调电台。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">人在往前后左右观察的时候,实际上就是在刷新大脑的向量空间,大脑试图提炼出相关的向量空间,这些空间基本上是固定位置的和正在移动的物体,然后大脑把这些内容编辑成最少量的信息。这些信息是你开车时的必要信息。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">45、Lex Fridman:大脑能自动编辑向量空间,或者进一步压缩成概念之类的东西。人类的大脑有时超越了向量空间,变成概念空间,你看到的东西不再是空间上的某种表现,它就像一个你应该知道的概念。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">如果在学校区域,你会记得这是一个概念,这很奇怪。虽然当时没有看到学生,但你心里会想:要小心开车,当心学生。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:你需要建立向量空间,然后对这些空间进行实际预测。</p>\n<p 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你把车停在红灯前,行人在绿灯亮起时过马路。但如果你再次经过路口时,因为一些原因你可能看不清行人,但你依然需要记住马路边上可能会有行人,并且他们可能要过马路之类的事情。所以即使这超过了你的时间记忆,也不能超过你的空间记忆。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">48、Lex Fridman:所以获取数据来学习你所说的所有概念是一个迭代的过程。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:对,但我们可能会换个名字。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">49、Lex Fridman:好吧,我相信这会和《瑞克和莫蒂》一样精彩。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:我们的团队在车里设计神经网络很多次了,超疯狂的。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">50、Lex Fridman:所以每次有一个新版本,你都会把它重命名为更荒谬或更难忘和美丽的东西吗?啊不对,不能说是荒谬。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:目前操纵汽车的神经网络的完整阵列有非常多的层级,这是非常复杂的,所以我们没有采用这种方式。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">我们采用简单的神经网络,基本上就是在一个摄像机的一帧图像上进行识别,然后试着把它们结合在一起。我们有自己的 C 语言编译器。因此,为了获得最大的性能,我们也在不断优化我们的 C 语言编译器的最大效率。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">事实上,我们最近在 C 语言编译器上做了一个新的 REV 命令,它将直接编译到我们的 Autopilot 自动驾驶硬件上。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">51、Lex Fridman:你想要用你自己的编译器编译所有的东西吗?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:对,有各种各样的计算。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">52、Lex Fridman:那就是说也包括 CPU、GPU 这些基本的东西吗?所以你自己也参与到编译代码中了?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:对,我们还安排了很多人参与其中。</p>\n<p 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的人都可以看到目前车辆的接管比例正在不断下降。极端情况下,司机也可以介入让车辆远离一些危险的情况。目前每一百万英里的司机干预正在急剧下降,看起来在 2022 年就能够实现自动驾驶,FSD 的事故发生比例会小于一般人。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">对于此,我们不必向监管机构证明这一点,我们只需要一个相应的标准来证明 FSD 的表现比一般人更好。我觉得自动驾驶的安全性将至少会高于人类两倍或者三倍,受到损伤的可能性也会低于人类两倍或者三倍,自动驾驶将会是更好的一种方式。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">56、Lex Fridman:所以目前特斯拉推出了 FSD 10.6 版本,10.7 版本也已经在路上了,也许 11.0 版本也会在不远的将来出现。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:是的,实际上我们非常希望在 2021 年推出 11.0 版本,但是 11.0 版本有很多基础的神经网络架构需要重写,此外还在创建向量空间上有一些基本改进。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">57、Lex Fridman:也就是说 FSD 11.0 版本将会有很多质的飞跃,11 也是一个非常酷的数字。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:FSD 11.0 真的会有很多基本的改进,神经网络的变化将会带来更多性能的提升。在一开始可能会有很多问题,但这是很有益的。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">就像我们在利用阿尔法软件那样,基本上需要处理一大堆 C,C++ 代码,用神经网络代替部分 C++ 代码,Andrej Karpathy 非常强调这一点。这就像神经网络逐步“吃掉”传统的软件,随着时间的推移,传统的软件将会越来越少,而神经网络会越来越多。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">最终呈现的结果仍然是软件,但更多是通过神经网络来实现的,基于启发式算法少了。这是一个很大的改进。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">58、Lex Fridman:所以你想要一直增加神经网络。</p>\n<p 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Fridman:对于我来说,外面在发生什么事情,安德烈在做什么事情,这都让我超级令人兴奋。软件的基础架构等一切都在用数据引擎进行,整个过程像一个艺术品。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:它的规模之大难以令人相信。我们编写了这些所有的用于培训和标签的定制软件,并且进行标定,标定是必不可少的,因为,当你处理像环绕视频的时候很难,从头开始标记环绕视频是非常困难的。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">一个人需要花费很长时间比如几个小时来标记一个视频剪辑,或者做一个标定,而软件只需要对视频剪辑应用进行大量的计算,进行预先分配和猜测环绕视频中发生的所有事情。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">63、Lex Fridman:还有就是需要纠正它们。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">马斯克:是的,然后人类所要做的就是调整,比如调整不正确的地方。这就像把生产力提升了 100 倍或更多。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L strong-Bold\">05。 特斯拉人形机器人可以成为人类的伴侣?</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">64、Lex Fridman:因此,你说特斯拉机器人将会在工厂有作用。我认为人形机器人对所有机器人爱好者来说都是难以置信的。我认为类人机器人、双足机器人所展示的优雅运动真是太酷了。我们已经谈论了比较类似的所有想法,其中一些你已经谈到过了的如特斯拉 FSD 其实只是另一种机器人问题。</p>\n<p cms-style=\"font-L\">我非常关心人类和机器人的互动能够展示出了如此人性化的一面,你认为机器人应该在工厂内工作?还是说在任何一个地方比如家里,成为朋友或者助理之类的?</p>\n<figure>\n<img h=\"390\" src=\"http://n.sinaimg.cn/spider20220108/290/w700h390/20220108/9626-4e697de87b1c86f8c106444d132ee325.gif\" w=\"700\"/>\n<h2>▲ 特斯拉机器人参数</h2>\n</figure>\n<p 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问都问到了点子上,既有技术原理、观点和看法,也有马斯克的心路历程与日常生活细节。\n对话中的马斯克也非常活跃、真诚。见面伊始,他直接对着麦克风又唱又抖,搞得跟明星录播现场一样。\n虽然歌唱的确实难听,但好在马斯克在面对 78 个问题时知无不言,金句、调侃与粗口齐出。\n他讲到,虽然自己不是宗 教人士,但在Space X的载人飞船发射前,他也虔诚的跪地祈祷(保佑发射平安)。聊到特斯拉的自动驾驶,他调侃称特斯拉开车比 007 詹姆斯邦德都厉害。而在谈到如何面对挫折与挑战时,马斯克则直言自己的字典没有放弃二字,也不管什么悲观与乐观主义。\n“!干就完了。”马斯克说道。\n对话里也包括大量马斯克的真知灼见、反常操作、以及技术细节:\n1、何时登陆火星?最早 5 年,最晚 10 年后。\n2、往返一趟火星多少钱?1 万亿美元。\n3、何时实现 L4 级的 FSD?2022 年就有希望。\n4、特斯拉自动驾驶软件中神经网络数量不断增加,基础代码正在快速减少,让自动驾驶越来越近。\n5、Space X 造火箭时找不到合适的材料就自己造了几种合金……\n总而言之,这两个半小时的对话信息量很足,也非常精彩,是了解马斯克的一个重要窗口。以下是车东西对这场视频对话实录的全程编译,为符合中文阅读略有删改。\n\n\n▲Lex Fridman与马斯克\n\n01。 首次太空载人曾下跪祈祷 下一步要在火星建立文明\n1、Lex Fridman:2020 年 5 月,Space X 的载人火箭进入太空轨道,被许多人视为人类太空探索新时代的第一步。这些人类太空飞行对我和数百万人来说是希望的灯塔,在过去的两年里,我们的世界一直在经历人类历史上最困难的时期之一。\n我们看到分裂、恐惧、愤世嫉俗和共同人性的丧失,就在最需要的时候,所以感谢你给了世界希望和对未来兴奋的理由。\n马斯克:哦,谢谢你这么说。我确实想这么做。人类显然有很多问题,而且你知道,人们有时会做坏事,但我爱这个群体。我认为我们应该确保我们所做的一切,能够让我们可以有一个美好的未来,一个令人兴奋的未来,去最大化人类幸福。\n2、Lex Fridman:我想问一下“载人龙飞船”的飞行任务(Crew dragon dem-2),这是 Space X 的第一次载人飞行,你在发射前感觉如何?你当时害怕吗?你兴奋吗?你在想什么?你的脑海中是否有这么多的利害关系?\n马斯克:是的,当时我内心确实非常紧张。我们显然不能在任何方面让他们失望,所以压力极大。我相信在飞船发射的时候,没有人能够想到它成功的概率是多少。\n我们绞尽脑汁去想能够提升成功概率的方法,但我们已经竭尽所能了,美国宇航局也是。我们已经在能力范围内做到最好了,所以我们继续往前推进并发射那艘飞船。我并不是一名宗 教人士,但是我还是跪下为那次任务做了祈祷。\n\n\n▲Space X首次太空飞行的四名航天员\n\n3、Lex Fridman:当飞船发射成功之后,你们睡得着吗?或者说,当飞船成功返程落地时你们内心的感受是什么?\n马斯克:高压之后内心的石头终于落了地。与其说是高兴,不如说是一种解脱。在Space X随后的任务中,肯定会有很多乐趣,我认为 Inspiration Mission 实际上是非常鼓舞人心的。我推荐大家去看一部 Netflix 纪录片《发射倒计时:灵感 4 号平民太空任务》(Countdown: Inspiration 4 Mission to Space),这部纪录片内容非常好。我本人也受到了启发。在飞船发射过程中,我甚至有些感觉有些享受,而不像第一次Space X发射飞船时那么紧张。\n\n\n▲ Netflix 纪录片《发射倒计时:灵感 4 号平民太空任务》\n\n4、Lex Fridman:所以大部分人其实不知道 Inspiratin 4 Mission 是全球首次的商业飞行任务,也是“普通人”的首次太空旅行。\n马斯克:是的,过去 30~40 年内,人类离地球最远的飞行应该是航天飞机维修哈勃望远镜任务和 1972 年阿波罗号的登月任务。这其实有点令人费解,当然这两次任务确实很酷。作为人类,我们希望可以继续做得更好,达到更高的境界。\n我个人认为,如果阿波罗号标志着人类的最高水平,那将是非常悲惨的。人类登上月球是我们曾经达到的水平,但现在已经过去了 49 年,我们还没有进行过第二次登月。这是否意味着我们的技术已经达到顶峰?所以我认为我们必须再次登陆月球,在那里建立一个科学基地,就像南极洲和世界其他地方的科学基地一样。在那里,我们能了解到更多关于宇宙本质的东西。\n\n\n▲ 阿波罗号登月\n\n我认为这一切都是相关联的,所以这就是我认为的下一件大事 —— 建造一个基地,然后把人类送上火星,建立火星文明。\n5、Lex Fridman:下面我会采访您其中的一些细节。由于您忙于处理工程挑战,你还有精力惊叹于太空旅行或是每次火箭升空的神奇之处?\n你有没有对将要面临的挑战有不知所措的感觉?5 月 30 日Space X首次载人飞行的任务已经过去一段时间了,你现在可以回顾一下它对你产生的影响。\n当时影响你最深的可能是工程问题,但现在这已经成为了一个历史性时刻。\n你觉得 21 世纪值得被人铭记的时刻有哪些?对我个人而言,其中的一个时刻可能就是 Inspiration 4 Mission,它或许会作为人类在新太空探索时代的早期尝试被铭记。\n马斯克:关于这次飞行,我想也许有些人知道,但更多的人都不知道。其实这就像,我实际上是Space X的首席工程师,我在所有的工程设计项目上都签了字,因此如果任何设备有任何问题,本质上都是我的错。所以我实际上脑子里想的都是工程设计。\n当我看到火箭时,我脑海里会想到那些可能会出错的因素和能够提升的部分。也就是说我看到龙飞船的时候也是如此。所以一般人看到火箭可能会说:“这个航天器或火箭看起来很酷!”,但我就会像一个读数机一样,一直在说有哪些风险,哪些问题。\n6、Lex Fridman:正如你所说,当你看到火箭的时候,你会列出风险清单。同时,你也说过星际飞船是一个非常困难的挑战。那么,以同样的方式让你列出一个星舰风险清单,并且如果能完美地解决其中一件工程问题,那么这个问题会是什么?也许是效率、引擎、不同部件的重量、各种事物交织复杂性甚至是星舰的着陆有关。\n马斯克:都不是,目前最需要花费时间的不是发动机的设计,而是发动机的生产。我经常说原型设计很简单,困难之处在于把它们生产出来,我们已经设计出了最先进的火箭发动机。\n\n\n▲ Starship 火箭推进器\n\n目前最好的火箭发动机可能是 RD-180 或 RD-170,基本上是俄罗斯的双燃烧室、双喷嘴发动机。而我认为一个发动机成功与否在于它是否能把飞船送入轨道,而我们的发动机还没有把星舰送入轨道,但实际上其性能要比俄罗斯的 RD 系列发动机更好。\n7、Lex Fridman:所以你指的是猛禽发动机。猛禽发动机与其他发动机不同之处在哪?\n马斯克:猛禽发动机是一种全流量分级燃烧循环发动机,它在一个非常高的室压下运行。衡量发动机好坏的关键就在于这个室压的数字是多少。\n这个数字就是燃烧室的压力,猛禽发动机可以在 300Bar 的压力下运行,甚至可能更高。当前运行的 RD 发动机的室压应该在 267Bar 左右。而提升室压的难度是以非线性方式增加的,因此,增加 10% 的室压更像增加了 50% 的难度,发动机需要获得更高的功率密度。\n这样就有了很高的推量比和很高的比冲量。因此,特定脉冲就像是火箭发动机效率的衡量标准,它实际上是发动机排出气体的有效排气速度。所以在一个非常高的压力下,你可以有一个紧凑的发动机,尽管如此它还是有一个高膨胀率,也就是出口喷管和喉部之间的比率。\n8、Lex Fridman:那为什么猛禽是一种难以大规模量产的发动机?\n马斯克:它的构造非常复杂。发动机有很多零部件和很多独特的材料。因此,我们不得不发明几种不存在的合金,以使发动机工作,这是材料问题。此外,在一个全流量分级燃烧系统中,有很多反馈回路,推进剂和热气同时流向发动机的不同的地方,而且它们都对彼此有一个递归的影响。所以如果这里改变一些,那里就会受到一些影响,再去改变别处,事情就很难控制了。这也是为什么以前没有人做过这类发动机。我们之所以做一个阶段性燃烧的全流发动机,是因为理论上其效率最高。\n为了制造一个完全可重复使用的火箭,必须把一切都做到极致 —— 制造最好的发动机、最好的机身、最好的热屏蔽、最好的航空电子设备以及超智能控制机制。\n例如,在减轻发动机自身质量上,我们不在助推器上安装着陆腿,而是用塔架承接返回的发动机。所以这就像是用一双筷子手臂在一座巨大的塔上抓住有史以来最大的飞行物一样。或者说这和空手道小子抓苍蝇一样,只不过这只苍蝇要大得多。\n9、Lex Fridman:你提到在一些时刻,你会怀疑这是否能够实现,因为这是非常困难的。\n马斯克:可能实现的一点是,我认为Space X会让星舰运转起来。这只是一个时间问题,我们要花多长时间来做这件事?我们要花多长时间才能真正实现火箭全面和迅速地重复使用?在其能够达到全面并迅速地重复使用前,需要多次发射试验。这些试验我可以用物理学计算。\n\n\n▲Space X测试火箭发射\n\n我对成功充满信心,计算结果在预测成功区间内。在 Space X,我们有一支天才团队,他们夜以继日地工作,让愿景成为现实 —— 实现航天革命和使人类成为星际文明的关键,要有一个完全和快速可重复使用的轨道火箭。在这之前,从来没有一支轨道火箭是完全可重复使用的。而这一直是火箭技术的梦想,许多人曾试图这么做,但都没有成功。\n10、Lex Fridman:你知道有很多人,包括许多专家、记者和一般的公众,都对可重复使用的火箭表示怀疑。而你自己认为这是一个非空集,虽然成功比较困难,但你还是全身心地投入,作为一名工程师、团队的一份子去负责推进这个项目,将其完成。你的力量来源是什么?\n马斯克:我只是知道自己思考问题的方式。对我来说,这是一件很重要的事情,我们应该继续做下去,否则就会失败。而我也不需要什么力量来源。\n11、Lex Fridman:所以放弃不是你的性格?\n马斯克:放弃这两个字不在我的字典里,管他乐观还是悲观,都滚蛋,干就完了!\n12、Lex Fridman:你能不能再放大到星舰的具体问题或你工作的任何工程问题上?你能不能试着描述下你思考问题的方式?比如不同的工程和设计问题?是否有一个系统的过程?你已经说过了思考的第一原则,但是否有一个过程?\n马斯克:物理学是基础,其他都是建议。我见过很多违反法律的人,但还没有见过可以违反物理学的人。如果是技术问题,你只需要确保自己没有违反物理学。另外,第一原则是分析,我认为分析可以应用于任何生活中所出现的事情。实际上,我们可以把一些事情归结为最基本的原则。物理学有些基础知识,比如说能量守恒定律,如果你违反了物理学,这件事就不可能完成。另一个方法是在极限中思考问题,如果你在思考一件事情的同时,把它扩展到一个非常大的范畴或一个非常小的范畴,事情会发生什么变化?\n13、Lex Fridman:在火箭的制造中也是如此?\n马斯克:是的,以制造为例,我认为这是一个被严重低估的问题。就像我说的,把一个先进的技术产品量产,比设计这款产品更难。假设你想弄清楚为什么这个零件或产品很贵?是因为我们在做一些蠢事吗?还是因为我们的产量太低?所以你想,如果每年的产量是一百万台呢?那还贵吗?这就是我的激进之处,把事情考虑到极限。如果一年一百万台还是很贵,那么数量就不是你的东西贵的原因,根本问题出在设计上。\n14、Lex Fridman:然后你就可以专注于降低设计的复杂性。\n马斯克:是的,这样一来必须改变设计,改变零部件,从根本解决价格问题。这在火箭领域很常见,因为产量相对较低,所以一个常见的借口是:“火箭价格很昂贵,是因为我们产量低。如果(我们)是在汽车或消费电子领域,成本就不会这么高了。”\n我心里想的是,如果现在每年生产一百万支火箭,那火箭单价还会这么贵吗?如果答案是肯定的,那么规模经济就不是问题了。\n15、Lex Fridman:你是否将其纳入制造业或供应链中?当你考虑资源和原料时,会不会把这些因素放到第一原则分析中?比如供应链如何运作?\n马斯克:正是如此,举一个在极限中思考问题的例子,这一方法对制造所有产品来说都很适用。如果你看一下火箭的原材料,你会发现原料有铝、钢、钛合金、特种合金、铜等等。\n\n\n▲Space XStarship 火箭发射\n\n每个部件的组成元素的重量是多少,它们的原材料价值是多少?在不改变原材料的情况下,以上几个问题为火箭的成本设定了渐近极限。在原材料不变时,你把比例看作一个神奇的数字,在不断计算后,把原子排列成最终的形状,这将是你产品的最低成本。实际上产品成本的高低在于如何将原子放到所需的形状中。\n16、Lex Fridman:我想先讲一段故事,我经常和 Jim Keller 聊天,他曾经与你共事过。\n马斯克:Jim 在特斯拉做得很好。\n17、Lex Fridman:所以我想他也受到了你的启发,思考问题的方式应该和你相似。同样,其他在特斯拉和Space X工作的人也具备同样的思维。他们都学会了这种思维方式,而且非常明显。\nJim 曾跟我说过,Tesla Bot 的成本可能不高。当时我们有过争论,我不相信他说的,规模量产的成本不可能低。目前为止,我已经与学术界和仿真机器人领域的专家进行了多次沟通,他们研发仿人机器人和动力机器人的成本高昂。Jim 则持有不同观点,他说:“第一原则就是降低制造成本。”我想你就是这样做的,你已经在特斯拉汽车和各种先前被视为复杂的系统上做了同样的思考。你的原话是:“我们现在如何把它简化?”\n马斯克:是的,我认为如果某企业善于制造,那基本上也可以大批量制造。产品的制造成本渐进式地接近其原材料价值,再加上你需要取得的任何知识产权。这是一件非常困难的事情,但对任何东西来说都是可能的。因此一个产品在最初设计时,经常发生的情况是,人们从他们熟悉的工具、部件和方法开始,然后试图用他们现有的工具和方法制造这个产品。\n另一种思考方式是尝试想象完美产品或技术,不管它是什么。然后想:“原子怎样才能完美地排列?让我们试着找出如何获得这种形状的物品”。\n19、Lex Fridman:在开始认真思考前,这种方式听起来其实有点儿“瑞克和莫蒂”(美国科幻喜剧动画片)式的荒谬。如果大家按照以前的思考方式做事经常受挫,那么真的应该用这种方式来思考。\n马斯克:常见的思考方式其实是一种惯性功能。人们更倾向于使用他们熟悉的工具和方法,导致做出的东西不太可能是完美产品。所以这就是为什么要从两个方向来考虑问题:第一,可以用我们的工具建造什么;第二,理论上的完美产品是什么样的?\n因为你学习得越多,对完美产品的定义也会改变。在此之前,你实际上不知道完美的产品会是什么样的,但你可以制造一个近似于完美的产品。具备了以上两个思考方向,你应该会想:“现在我们需要创造什么工具、方法、材料才能让原子变成需要的形状?”\n这种思考方式很有效,但很少人这么想。\n02。 最晚 10 年后送人上火星 火星最好用加密货币 \n20、Lex Fridman:下面我们来谈谈火星,你之前提到了,在月球上建一个科学基地,进行一些研究,这对科学界来说是非常有益的。但其实真正的飞跃,在这个看似不可能的类别中 —— 让人类登陆火星。你觉得Space X未来多久会把人类送上火星?\n马斯克:最早是 5 年后,最晚是 10 年后。\n\n\n▲Space X设想的外星基地\n\n21、Lex Fridman:决定因素是什么?你觉得是由工程方面的因素决定的吗?还是说工程因素并不是瓶颈问题?\n马斯克:根本上来说还是星舰的设计,Starship 星舰是有史以来最复杂的先进火箭,我不知道决定因素是什么,或许是星舰的规模等类似的因素吧。\n星舰很大,先前的飞船同我们的星舰相比,不是一个重量水平。因此星舰的基本优化是最大限度地减少每吨的入轨成本,并最终减少到登陆火星表面的成本。优化成本似乎是一个商业目标,但它实际上是需要优化的东西。登陆火星表面的每吨成本是固定的,之后我们可以在那里再建立一个自给自足的城市。除此之外,我们所能做的就微乎其微了。\n现在去火星的往返成本大约是 1 万亿美元,但有再多的钱也买不到去火星的船票。其实要把人送上火星也不是不可能,但我们想要的不仅是登陆火星在上面树立旗帜留下脚印,然后和登陆月球一样,半个世纪都不回去一次。我们想在火星定居,长久地生存在那儿,我认为人类需要成为一个多星球定居的物种。\n可能这对很多人来说有些深奥,但随着时间的推移,地球很可能会经历一些灾难,这可能是人类行为产生的结果,或者是气候突变等外部原因造成了全球性的灾难,人类的命运或许会同恐龙一样。\n如果发生这种情况,人类将以某种方式继续生存,太阳逐渐变大,最终会吞噬地球。地球可能会在 500 万年后变得很热,不适合人类居住。虽然这个时间还很长,但也只比地球存在的时间长 10%。\n但是地球已经存在了 45 亿年,这也是 45 亿年来第一次有可能将生命延伸到地球之外的行星。机会之窗可能会开放很长一段时间,在机会之窗开启时,迅速采取行动是明智的。\n22、Lex Fridman:核威胁、疫情以及各种风险会给我们一些动力。\n马斯克:我的意思是,文明可能会因人口崩溃而消失,或是因为第三次世界大战消失。\n这些都充满了不确定性。我认为人类的未来在很大概率上是好的。但是每个世纪都有 1% 的可能会让一个文明终结,斯蒂芬・霍金也有类似的预言。\n他很大概率是对的。我们应该把人类看作是一个多星球居住的物种,就像给生命买保险一样。\n我们把植物和生物送上火星,给这个星球注入生命,让它成为第二个有生命存在的星球。它们仅凭自己无法前往火星,如果Space X不把人类带上火星,那么等到太阳膨胀使地球无法居住的时候,人类就会灭绝。\n23、Lex Fridman:你认为在火星建立文明最困难的部分是什么?是从工程层面改造火星?还是经济层面或是人类层面?让这些人永远在火星定居,不返回地球。\n马斯克:我认为他们还是会返回地球的。\n24、Lex Fridman:但有些人会选择永远定居火星。\n马斯克:是的,我相信很多人会,但是我们要造的是一艘可以随时往返的星舰。制造星舰的成本昂贵,我们要的是一艘可以重复使用的星舰,同时记录这些人前往火星的旅程。\n\n\n▲Space X设想的火星基地\n\n25、Lex Fridman:你考虑过把火星地球化的成本吗?比如一些实际的建造事宜?你现在是否专注于建设登陆火星的飞船?\n马斯克:当然考虑过。但是首先要解决如何到达火星这件事,如果连火星都去不了,那再讨论其他事情就没有任何意义了。我现在所思考的就是要降低到达火星的成本。目前,平均每吨重量到达火星的成本在 10 亿美元(约合人民币 63.8 亿元)左右,这些成本不仅包括制造火箭、发射,还包括隔热、导航系统、太空通信以及着陆系统。因此,10 亿美元(约合人民币 63.8 亿元)只是粗略估计。但这显然有些昂贵,而且无法创造一个可以自给自足的文明,所以我们需要把成本至少缩减一千倍。\n26、Lex Fridman:把登陆成本控制在每吨 100 万美元(约合人民币 638 万元)?\n马斯克:是的,理想情况下每吨的登陆成本要远低于 100 万美元(约合人民币 638 万元)。但除此之外,还有在火星上建立一座自给自足的城市成本。这一部分是关键,如果因为一些原因,地球不再向火星发送飞船,这里(火星)的人类也应该能生存下去。\n千里之堤,溃于蚁穴,就是这个道理,只要缺少一个关键部分,那么这就不算一个自给自足的城市。就像一个人如果在海上远行,除了维生素 C 之外,他什么都有,但他知道没有维生素 C 早晚都会死去。\n所以我们要让火星的城市拥有自我维持的能力,我不确定在我的有生之年是否能够看到这一景象,但我喜欢能看到这个城市能够建立的可能。\n你可能会问我:“建造一个自我维持的城市,飞船需要搭载的最低吨位是多少?”\n这里面有很多不确定因素,我也不知道,因为需要在火星上建设大量的基础设施,比如半导体工厂,矿石冶炼厂等,所以重量至少是一百万吨。而且火星是最不适合居住的行星之一,但它比地球离太阳更远。\n27、Lex Fridman:是的,范围仅限于在太阳系中。\n马斯克:是的,在太阳系里。太阳系也可能有更适宜人类居住的行星,但是我们达到不了。\n28、Lex Fridman:太难了?\n马斯克:是的,非常非常困难。\n29、Lex Fridman:其实我们可以换个思路,你刚才提到过物理学是你的出发点,而广义相对论认为虫洞是存在的。你认为人类可以利用虫洞来进行光速的旅行吗?\n马斯克:虫洞的事情是值得商榷的,但我们目前还不知道有什么方法可以超过光速。其实还有一些空间理论的说法,在空间内让一个物体以光速移动,再让空间本身移动,这其实叫做扭曲空间,这个速度能够超过光的移动速度。\n就像宇宙大爆炸,宇宙爆炸的速度远远超过了光速。\n30、Lex Fridman:是的。\n马斯克:扭曲空间需要巨大的能量。究竟是多少,目前还未可知。\n31、Lex Fridman:你在火箭的推进方面,有多少创新?能把(火箭)推进的效率提升 10 倍吗?你在物理学中找到可以使发动机效率得到明显改善的方法了吗?\n马斯克:正如我所说的,火箭技术真正的梦想,是建立一个完全和快速可重复使用的轨道系统。而猎鹰 9 号是唯一可重复使用的火箭,在Space X的视频中你能看到,火箭能够返回并且成功着陆,同时我们成功回收了火箭整流罩的前锥体,但是我们没有成功回收上半段。\n这意味着我们在建造上半段火箭时会把成本控至最低。猎鹰 9 号是一种两级火箭,可以看作是两架飞机,一架大的和一架小的,大飞机成功收回,而小飞机则没有。不过上半段火箭的成本也很高,至少在 1000 万美元(约为 6372 万元人民币)左右。\n\n\n▲Space X猎鹰 9 号\n\n现在猎鹰 9 号的重复使用程度还达不到我们所希望的水平。猎鹰 9 号每次的发射成本不包含在我们最低的边际成本中,火箭的单次的发射成本在 1500 万美元(约为 9557 万元人民币)到 2000 万美元(约为 1.27 亿元人民币)左右,这已经是有史以来最低的火箭发射成本了。除此之外,我们正致力于推进火箭的迅速复用,如果成功,那么希火箭入轨的每吨成本有望降低 100 倍。\n试想一下,如果你有一架飞机或一辆汽车,你每次开车都要买一辆新车,那会很贵。但如果你给汽车加油或充电,这样就把你的出行成本降低了 1000 倍,这个道理在火箭领域也一样适用。\n众所周知,制造火箭是很困难的一件事。所以如果我不能重复利用火箭的话,那么我可以舍弃一些构造,哪怕是重要的部分,看看是不是能达成我想要的目标,结果证明是可以的。所以理论上星舰也可以计算每次发射的成本,比如在 100 万美元(约为 638 万元人民币)到 200 万美元(约为 1274 万元人民币)之间,然后单次发射可以运载超过 100 吨的补给。虽然现在这么看有些疯狂。\n32、Lex Fridman:是的,很不可思议。所以你想表达的是,目前猎鹰 9 号的主要目的是让其可以全面复用,而不是取得理论物理学中的某种突破。\n马斯克:并没有什么辉煌的突破,造一个可以完全重复使用的火箭就已经是一个极其困难的工程问题了。\n33、Lex Fridman:我想问一个略带哲学意味的、有趣的问题。目前,你专注的是如何到达火星。如果人类一旦登陆火星,你认为火星早期的文明应该有怎样的政治经济体制?这个答案有助于人们想象未来的火星文明。\n马斯克:我个人认为,火星上应该建立直接民主制度,人们可以直接对事情投票,法律必须足够简短,方便人们理解。此外,法律还需要不断更新,并且具备“法律回收”的规定,可以随时废除一些陈旧的规则和制度。\n34、Lex Fridman:你曾经说过,Space X 会把一块狗狗币放到月球上,你曾经也说过狗狗币是人民的货币,那么你是否认为狗狗币是火星的官方货币或是未来的货币?\n马斯克:我认为火星本身要拥有与地球不同的货币,因为两个星球距离太远,无法实现货币的同步流通。\n35、Lex Fridman:所以火星必须有一个独立的货币体系?\n马斯克:是的,因为火星离地球的距离大概是 20 光分(光子在一分钟内行走的距离)左右,也许更远,所以两个星球之间无法实现真正意义上的同步。\n我不知道未来火星是否会有加密货币,但应该会产生一种火星本地化的货币。\n36、Lex Fridman:火星上的人决定货币的形式?\n马斯克:完全正确,火星的未来应该由火星人决定。我认为加密货币本身很有趣,它可以减少数据库中的错误 —— 也就是我们所称之为货币的东西。\n我是 Paypal 的创始人之一,所以在货币的实际应用中有着相当深刻的理解。现在已经 2021 年了,银行业仍然还在购买大型机器,运行古老的 COBOL 代码。\n美联储的设备可能比银行的还要老,他们的设备是一个笨重的老式 COBOL 主机。除此之外,政府拥有货币数据库的编辑权限,他们利用这些编辑权限来获得更多的货币,这就增加了数据库中的错误 —— 也就是金钱。所以我认为应该通过信息理论的角度来看待金钱。\n可以把整个经济系统看作是一个互联网连接,有带宽、时延抖动和丢包这些网络通信中经常会出现的错误。因此我们也可以从这个角度思考货币,然后从信息理论的角度想究竟什么样的系统能使经济运行得最好。\n加密货币其实是一种尝试,以减少政府稀释货币供应量所造成的税收影响。\n37、Lex Fridman:你觉得加密货币是 21 世纪人们做交易、储存财富的新方式吗?\n马斯克:钱只是一种数据,而人们往往会认为金钱本身就有力量,其实这是错误的,金钱本身并没有力量。\n在思考过程中加入物理学的观点是非常重要的,如果你是一个亿万富翁,却被困在一个热带岛屿上,那么你的钱实际上并没有价值。因为孤岛上没有资源分配,钱则是资源分配的数据库。除了你自己,岛上没有任何资源可以分配,所以钱是无用的。\n所以我们可以把货币看作是一个跨时空的资源分配数据库,这个数据库或数据系统应该以什么形式出现,才能发挥最大效果呢?目前比特币存在一个根本性的问题 —— 交易量非常有限,交易确认延迟过长。\n从这个问题的角度来看,比特币并不是一种理想的加密货币,我不否认它本身存在一定作用,比特币可能有助于解决货币数据库问题的一个方面 —— 即财富的储存或相对义务的核算 —— 但它作为一种日常货币没有用处。\n虽然狗狗币是因一个玩笑而诞生的,但我仍然认为它有很多优点。它的交易量比比特币高很多,现在如果你想做一笔比特币交易,那么这笔交易的价格非常高。\n比特币诞生在 2018 年,当时的互联网还没有现在这么先进,当时比特币的交易可能能与当时的网速同步。但现在是 2021 年,再过 10 年,这个(交易)速度会低的离谱。\n而且我认为货币的数量应该呈线性增长,如果一种货币过于紧缩,会随着时间推移而升值,那么人们就不愿意把这种货币花掉。\n03。 建立向量空间是自动驾驶最难的部分\n38、Lex Fridman:特斯拉的 Autopilot 在过去六年中取得了令人难以置信的成就。之所以说它是令人惊叹的成就,是因为我清楚地知道这其中充满了挑战。\n我当时在麻省理工工作,同时我也有许多在 DARPA(美国国防部高级研究计划局)工作的朋友,所以非常理解计算机视觉的困难。因此,当我第一次驾驶最初基于 Mobileye 自动驾驶系统的特斯拉汽车时,我持有一种怀疑态度。我认为这辆车不可能做到自主保持车道,并为驾驶员创造一种舒适的驾驶体验。\n马斯克:其实车道保持很容易做到。\n39、Lex Fridman:但其实最初 Mobileye 给特斯拉的原型方案并不能解决这个问题。\n马斯克:我们必须在 Mobileye 方案的基础上编写大量的代码,Mobileye 的方案并不是我们推向市场的自动驾驶方案。\n40、Lex Fridman:这其实就是 Autopilot 发展过程中的插曲 —— 你做事的方式。你习惯以一种全新的方式解决问题,这其实是我所见过的最大胆的决定,你在软件和硬件上,都做了一套全新的自动驾驶方案。\n我可能最关心和最喜欢的是 Andrej Karpathy 所领导的工作 —— 数据集的选择、数据引擎过程、神经网络架构、在实际生活中网络测试、验证的方式。与计算机视觉的图像网模型相比,这就像现实世界的人工智能。\n\n\n▲ 特斯拉 AI 主管 Andrej Karpathy\n\n马斯克:Andrej 很了不起,他显然发挥了重要作用。其实我们也有很多非常有才华的人在推动这项工作,Ashock 实际上是自动驾驶工程的负责人,Andrej 是人工智能项目的负责人。\n不夸张地说,特斯拉 Autopilot 的 AI 团队聚集了世界上最顶尖的一群人。所以特斯拉的自动驾驶软件才能不断取得进展。\n41、Lex Fridman:在 Autopilot 发展的 5~6 年中,你对自动驾驶有哪些见解?\n马斯克:一开始,我就知道让汽车自动驾驶是一件极其困难的事情,但在项目推进的过程中,我发现这比我想象的还要困难。要让车辆自动驾驶的基础就是重现人类的驾驶方式 —— 人类眼睛感知并用神经网络处理信息,最终完成驾驶行为。\n而特斯拉的 FSD 软件就是这样设计的,基本上是利用视觉算法和神经网络做到自动驾驶。因此,为了部署 FSD,我们需要将视觉算法和神经网络以数字的形式重建起来,摄像头有性能上的提升,同时神经网络在芯片之中。很明显,这种方式能够实现完全自动驾驶能力。并且,这是唯一的解决方案,我不相信还有其他解决方案。\n42、Lex Fridman:但问题是要把哪些类人的感知能力编码到机器当中?当人类在开车时都会注意哪些方面?比如机器要知道一个开启的车门是怎样的,这就是感知能力。系统必须首先解决感知问题,才能进一步控制、规划汽车。你必须把驾驶中涉及的内容研究透彻,这其中还有很多不同的边缘情况。\n马斯克:我认为难点并不在于控制逻辑。\n43、Lex Fridman:你认为在整个问题中,什么才是最困难的部分?\n马斯克:最困难的应该是建立一个准确的向量空间,因为需要太多的软件,以及大量的代码。摄像头感知图像之后形成数字信号,需要将数字信号映射到向量空间中,最终可以识别汽车、人、车道线、曲线和红绿灯等等。一旦建立起了准确的向量空间,控制车辆就会变得像玩游戏一样简单,就像是玩 GTA、赛博朋克等游戏一样。建立准确的向量空间虽然很难,但并不是不可逾越的。\n\n\n▲ 特斯拉车主实测 FSD\n\n44、Lex Fridman:是的,人类自身的感知系统将光子映射到头脑中的向量空间是一件不可思议的事情,但大部分人都没有意识到。\n马斯克:其实现在你的大脑正在处理大量的数据,为你呈现了一副非常清晰的图像。就好像我们环顾四周时,你会看到五彩缤纷的颜色,但实际上这些颜色是你眼睛的视锥细胞传递给大脑的。这种细胞能接受光刺激,能将光能转换为神经冲动,故亦称光感受器。\n你的眼睛会给看到的东西“上色”。但你并没有意识到这个过程。你的大脑在对眼睛的视觉信号进行大量的后期处理。这很不可思议,但其实人的大脑在处理一些数据的时候,也会忘记一些事情,所以记忆力也许是人类大脑最薄弱的地方。我们的记忆力是有限的,大脑在接收信息的同时也会遗忘,所以最后它最后处理完的信息其实要比大脑接收的信息要少。\n因此,你的大脑在试图创建一个向量空间,当你在开车的时候,可以思考下你的大脑在有意识地想什么。\n特斯拉的汽车用摄像头来充当眼睛,完成自动驾驶。这和人类开车的方式一样,人的眼睛就相当于两个摄像头。虽然开车时用视力观察周围的环境方式不错,但人们会分心,思考一些东西、发短信、吵架或是调电台。\n人在往前后左右观察的时候,实际上就是在刷新大脑的向量空间,大脑试图提炼出相关的向量空间,这些空间基本上是固定位置的和正在移动的物体,然后大脑把这些内容编辑成最少量的信息。这些信息是你开车时的必要信息。\n45、Lex Fridman:大脑能自动编辑向量空间,或者进一步压缩成概念之类的东西。人类的大脑有时超越了向量空间,变成概念空间,你看到的东西不再是空间上的某种表现,它就像一个你应该知道的概念。\n如果在学校区域,你会记得这是一个概念,这很奇怪。虽然当时没有看到学生,但你心里会想:要小心开车,当心学生。\n马斯克:你需要建立向量空间,然后对这些空间进行实际预测。\n比如当你开车时,前面有一辆卡车,还有一些孩子准备过马路,当你距离卡车较近的时候,卡车挡住了你的视线,你看不到那些小孩了。这时,你心里想的是这些孩子现在在什么位置,需要提前预测一下(位置)。\n46、Lex Fridman:对计算机视觉来说,识别移动的物体,比如这个物体被一棵树遮挡后又重新出现,这种连贯的追踪是非常难的。\n马斯克:这就是我们正在做事情 ——“客体永久性”,这有点像人类的神经网,当一个人从幼儿阶段长大时,有一个提升自我认知的时间点,机器也是如此。\n如果你把玩具或其他东西藏在背后,然后再拿出来给一个婴儿看,对那个婴儿来说,每次你把东西拿出来,这个东西都是第一次出现的,对婴儿们来说都是新事物。他 / 她们可以整天玩藏猫猫。但之后,婴儿长大获得了“客体永久性”,他们意识到这个东西其实一直都存在,并没有消失,只是被人藏在身后了。\n\n\n▲ 特斯拉车身上的八个摄像头汇集成三维的“向量空间”\n\n47、Lex Fridman:有时我希望我们永远不要获得“客体永久性”。\n马斯克:是的。汽车神经网络的一个重要的发展是记忆,跨越时间和空间的记忆。实际上人类的大脑不能掌控记忆的多少,你想记住的越多,就会耗费更多的代价。\n所以如果你想长时间记住太多的东西的话,到后期很多记忆就会变得比较陈旧,并且你还需要再记住一些新的东西。\n比如说,一段 5 秒钟的记忆 —— 你把车停在红灯前,行人在绿灯亮起时过马路。但如果你再次经过路口时,因为一些原因你可能看不清行人,但你依然需要记住马路边上可能会有行人,并且他们可能要过马路之类的事情。所以即使这超过了你的时间记忆,也不能超过你的空间记忆。\n48、Lex Fridman:所以获取数据来学习你所说的所有概念是一个迭代的过程。\n马斯克:对,但我们可能会换个名字。\n49、Lex Fridman:好吧,我相信这会和《瑞克和莫蒂》一样精彩。\n马斯克:我们的团队在车里设计神经网络很多次了,超疯狂的。\n50、Lex Fridman:所以每次有一个新版本,你都会把它重命名为更荒谬或更难忘和美丽的东西吗?啊不对,不能说是荒谬。\n马斯克:目前操纵汽车的神经网络的完整阵列有非常多的层级,这是非常复杂的,所以我们没有采用这种方式。\n我们采用简单的神经网络,基本上就是在一个摄像机的一帧图像上进行识别,然后试着把它们结合在一起。我们有自己的 C 语言编译器。因此,为了获得最大的性能,我们也在不断优化我们的 C 语言编译器的最大效率。\n事实上,我们最近在 C 语言编译器上做了一个新的 REV 命令,它将直接编译到我们的 Autopilot 自动驾驶硬件上。\n51、Lex Fridman:你想要用你自己的编译器编译所有的东西吗?\n马斯克:对,有各种各样的计算。\n52、Lex Fridman:那就是说也包括 CPU、GPU 这些基本的东西吗?所以你自己也参与到编译代码中了?\n马斯克:对,我们还安排了很多人参与其中。\n这涉及到很多的硬核的软件工程,所以我们也在 FSD 计算机上做了大量的计算,并且我们需要在有限的计算能力下尽可能地达到每秒最高的帧数。\n特斯拉团队有很多非常有能力的软件工程师,他们也在致力于提高我们的计算效率。\n53、Lex Fridman:你想要达到像电子游戏一样多的高帧率的话就需要全分辨率,高帧率,低延迟。\n马斯克:对,除了上述几点,还需要低抖动。现在我们要做的事情之一就是不需要通过图像信号处理器对图像进行后处理。\n比如一般的相机为了让照片看起来更漂亮,需要做很多后处理。但我们不关心图片是否漂亮,我们只想要数据,所以我们的相机收集的只是原始的光子计数。\n所以我们的系统在电脑上看到的图像实际上比人们通常看到的要多得多。人眼看到差不多光线的两个点,实际上光子数量可能相差很多。这意味着我们的相机在黑暗中也能看得很清楚,因为它能探测到光子数的微小差异。\n由于去掉了图片的后处理过程,我们的延迟提升了 13 毫秒。其中每个摄像头大概是节省了 1.5 或者 1.6 毫秒,8 个摄像头加起来就节省了 13 毫秒。\n我们如何统计延迟?包括景象进入摄像头,摄像头数据进入多种神经网络,进入基于 C 语言和少量 C++ 写的程序,再到自动驾驶系统给出驾驶指令,并将指令发给电驱动执行单元,以实现加速、制动或者转向操作。\n一些控制器的工作频率在 10Hz(每 100ms 工作一次),所以这时候已经产生了 100 毫秒的延迟。所以我们想要升级电驱动系统的控制器,让它以 100Hz 或者更高的频率进行工作(每 10 毫秒工作一次),这样就能减少整个系统的反应延迟。\n注:马斯克表示,延迟问题可测量和预测,不是那么难。真正难的是一个名为“抖动”的现象,抖动用于描述数据传输延迟的变化程度。抖动越高,整个系统的延迟问题就会被大幅放大,这时候系统就不知所措了。\n马斯克没有介绍特斯拉是如何解决抖动的,但他表示 Autopilot 或者 FSD 系统最终的驾驶表现,比 007 詹姆斯邦德开车还厉害。\n\n\n▲ 007 詹姆斯邦德在电影中的座驾\n\n04。 今年底将实现 L4 未来车辆可以识别声音\n54、Lex Fridman:回顾过去的 6 年,同时面向未来,基于你目前的理解,你认为解决 FSD 这个问题难度如何?你认为特斯拉汽车在什么时候会达到 L4 级的 FSD?\n马斯克:我认为自动驾驶看上去非常有可能,可能会在 2022 年实现。\n\n\n▲ 特斯拉 FSD 展示\n\n55、Lex Fridman:那么是通过什么样的方式实现的呢?是通过目前的 FSD beta 版本吗?这一版本会变得越来越好并最终超越目前的水平实现更高的自动化吗?\n马斯克:是的,任何关注特斯拉 FSD beta 的人都可以看到目前车辆的接管比例正在不断下降。极端情况下,司机也可以介入让车辆远离一些危险的情况。目前每一百万英里的司机干预正在急剧下降,看起来在 2022 年就能够实现自动驾驶,FSD 的事故发生比例会小于一般人。\n对于此,我们不必向监管机构证明这一点,我们只需要一个相应的标准来证明 FSD 的表现比一般人更好。我觉得自动驾驶的安全性将至少会高于人类两倍或者三倍,受到损伤的可能性也会低于人类两倍或者三倍,自动驾驶将会是更好的一种方式。\n56、Lex Fridman:所以目前特斯拉推出了 FSD 10.6 版本,10.7 版本也已经在路上了,也许 11.0 版本也会在不远的将来出现。\n马斯克:是的,实际上我们非常希望在 2021 年推出 11.0 版本,但是 11.0 版本有很多基础的神经网络架构需要重写,此外还在创建向量空间上有一些基本改进。\n57、Lex Fridman:也就是说 FSD 11.0 版本将会有很多质的飞跃,11 也是一个非常酷的数字。\n马斯克:FSD 11.0 真的会有很多基本的改进,神经网络的变化将会带来更多性能的提升。在一开始可能会有很多问题,但这是很有益的。\n就像我们在利用阿尔法软件那样,基本上需要处理一大堆 C,C++ 代码,用神经网络代替部分 C++ 代码,Andrej Karpathy 非常强调这一点。这就像神经网络逐步“吃掉”传统的软件,随着时间的推移,传统的软件将会越来越少,而神经网络会越来越多。\n最终呈现的结果仍然是软件,但更多是通过神经网络来实现的,基于启发式算法少了。这是一个很大的改进。\n58、Lex Fridman:所以你想要一直增加神经网络。\n马斯克:但这甚至不是所有的神经网络,就像一个改变游戏规则的人,但是必须利用大量 C、C++ 组成一个神经网络。\n神经网络通过少量的数据来识别:这是一条车道线;这是一个可行驶空间;这是一辆车;这是一辆自行车或其他的障碍物。神经网络必须向 C、C++ 代码输出正确的向量。\n对于我们已经完成的,我觉得我们做得很好,使它的增长速度达到了局部的最大值,这是了不起的事情。另一方面,我们对神经网络的训练也进行了很大的调整,需对原始图像进行训练,得到最终的图像信息。\n59、Lex Fridman:所以这是一种降低复杂性的方法,降低了整个过程的复杂度。\n马斯克:是的,所以代码数量也会有所减少。\n60、Lex Fridman:这很迷人。所以,特斯拉目前正在通过所有传感器的加入来降低难度。\n马斯克:主要依托于摄像头。\n61、Lex Fridman:和人类一样,但我们也通过耳朵听声音。\n马斯克:是的,实际上我们还要将声音融入其中,需要听救护车的警报声或者消防车的声音,再或者有人对你大喊大叫,所以也需要一些音频。\n老实说,提出这些想法非常容易,但实施起来非常困难。就像提出去月球是最简单的一部分,而到达月球是最难的部分。\n整个过程中在软件和硬件层面都存在很多核心的工程问题,需要对很多代码进行调整,减少延迟,如果我们不这样做,系统就不会工作。\n而这就是工程师们主要的工作内容,他们就像你认识的那些无名英雄,他们对项目的成功至关重要。\n62、Lex Fridman:对于我来说,外面在发生什么事情,安德烈在做什么事情,这都让我超级令人兴奋。软件的基础架构等一切都在用数据引擎进行,整个过程像一个艺术品。\n马斯克:它的规模之大难以令人相信。我们编写了这些所有的用于培训和标签的定制软件,并且进行标定,标定是必不可少的,因为,当你处理像环绕视频的时候很难,从头开始标记环绕视频是非常困难的。\n一个人需要花费很长时间比如几个小时来标记一个视频剪辑,或者做一个标定,而软件只需要对视频剪辑应用进行大量的计算,进行预先分配和猜测环绕视频中发生的所有事情。\n63、Lex Fridman:还有就是需要纠正它们。\n马斯克:是的,然后人类所要做的就是调整,比如调整不正确的地方。这就像把生产力提升了 100 倍或更多。\n05。 特斯拉人形机器人可以成为人类的伴侣?\n64、Lex Fridman:因此,你说特斯拉机器人将会在工厂有作用。我认为人形机器人对所有机器人爱好者来说都是难以置信的。我认为类人机器人、双足机器人所展示的优雅运动真是太酷了。我们已经谈论了比较类似的所有想法,其中一些你已经谈到过了的如特斯拉 FSD 其实只是另一种机器人问题。\n我非常关心人类和机器人的互动能够展示出了如此人性化的一面,你认为机器人应该在工厂内工作?还是说在任何一个地方比如家里,成为朋友或者助理之类的?\n\n\n▲ 特斯拉机器人参数\n\n马斯克:我认为可能性是无穷无尽的,这并不完全符合特斯拉加速可持续能源的主要任务方向,但制造人形机器人,是我们可以为这个世界做的一些非常有趣的事情,能够以很多形式为世界带来帮助。\n我认为未来有很多工作,如果没有报酬,人们就不会去做,比如说洗碗,你整天都在洗碗的话,就会很烦躁,就算你真的很喜欢洗碗,你愿意每天洗八个小时吗?\n再比如说那些危险的工作,这些工作既危险又无聊,还存在重复性压力伤害。\n我认为这些工作就是人形机器人能够发挥最大价值的地方,我们目标就是让机器人去做一些人类不愿意做的工作。\n65、Lex Fridman:你是否想象过未来世界上有数以亿计的特斯拉机器人,在世界各地做不同的工作,执行不同的任务。\n马斯克:我还没有真正思考过这个问题,但我想可能会有类似的事情发生。\n66、Lex Fridman:我可以问一个疯狂的问题吗?目前特斯拉的保有量加速增加,已经接近 200 万辆,他们中有很多都具备 FSD(马斯克:我想我们已经超过了 200 万辆),你认为特斯拉机器人的数量是否会超过特斯拉汽车的数量?\n马斯克:我认为这个问题很有趣,通常情况下我会思考非常遥远的事情,但我确实没有思考过特斯拉机器人的未来。\n我称这些机器人为 optimus Subprime,因为他不像一个巨大的可以变形的机器人,但他应该是一个通用的帮助机器人。我认为特斯拉经常和现实世界进行互动,我们开发自动驾驶,同时定制很多硬件,硬核软件,让它们高效运行和节能。\n如果你有一个拥有 10000 台计算的巨大服务器机房,那么做神经网络并不复杂,但现在把它提炼出来让其在一个低功耗的人形机器人计算机或汽车上运行,这实际上非常困难,有很多复杂的软件工作要做。\n\n\n▲ 特斯拉超级计算机\n\n因此,我们用神经网络解决汽车导航的问题,而汽车又有点像有四个轮子的机器人,如果把它延伸放到一个有手臂和腿的机器人中,比较困难的两点是既要让机器人足够智能,又要让其以一种明智的方式和环境交互。\n要达成这一切,既需要现实世界的 AI,又需要非常擅长制造。特斯拉非常擅长制造,又有 AI,所以让人形机器人工作意味着开发与汽车不同的定制电机和传感器。\n我认为我们在开发先进的电动机和电子电力方面有最好的专业知识,都可以用于人形机器人的应用。\n67、Lex Fridman:有一些东西对我们很有吸引力,但不一定能够吸引到所有的人。世界上被巨大的孤独包围,很多人都想要更多的陪伴,与其他人的友谊等,在奥斯汀,有很多人养狗。似乎还有一个巨大的机会让机器人减少世界上的孤独感,帮助人们相互联系,在某种程度上狗就可以实现这个目标。你是否考虑过特斯拉机器人在这一点发挥作用?还是认为特斯拉机器人应该发挥特定的任务,不与人交往?\n马斯克:老实说,我并没有从陪伴的角度考虑过,但我认为它实际上最终会成为一个非常好的伴侣。它可以个性化发展,随着时间的发展,他可能会发展出一种独特的个性,而不是所有的机器人都一样。\n而这种个性可能会变得和拥有者匹配,或者成为人类的同伴、另一半。\n我觉得这很有趣,就像一个我很喜欢的日语短语:wabi-sabi,细微的瑕疵,使某些东西变得特别,机器人个性的细微缺陷,或许会让它成为一个不可思议的伙伴,基本上就像 r2d2、c-3po(《星球大战》电影中的两个机器人)之类的东西。\n\n\n▲ c-3po(左)和 r2d2(右)\n\n68、Lex Fridman:从机器人的角度来看,我认为有一些缺陷的特性非常好,在一般的家庭环境中,有一些缺陷非常可爱,你可能会爱上这些缺陷。但这与自动驾驶非常不同,自动驾驶在一个高风险的环境中,你不能搞砸。因此在家用机器人更有趣。\n马斯克:是的,事实上,如果你想象 r2d2、c-3po,他们就有很多类似的缺陷和不完美的地方,他们会为了愚蠢的事情互相争论。\n69、Lex Fridman:他们真的擅长做任何事情吗?我不确定。\n马斯克:但他们肯定为故事增加了一些古怪的元素,他们会犯错误。这只是让人们对他们的可爱产生共鸣。所以我认为特斯拉机器人也可能会发生这样的事。\n我们有信心制造出来他们,但是我不确定确切的时间表是什么,我们可能会在 2022 年底或类似的时间拥有一个原型。\n70、Lex Fridman:它可以与特斯拉汽车相连,这一定非常酷。\n马斯克:是的,它将使用自动驾驶推理计算机 ,我们为了 Model S / Y / 3 / X 这四款车做了很多训练,在识别现实世界事物方面的技术可以直接给机器人用。不过也有很多需要定制的执行器和传感器有待开发。\n71、Lex Fridman:在向量空间之外,还要有一个额外的模块用于爱。(马斯克:我们也可以用于汽车),在所有环境中都可以用,很多人会在汽车内吵架,汽车也可以帮助人们。\n你是历史系的学生,也是丹・卡林的粉丝(马斯克:是的,有史以来最棒的博客),他几乎不算是播客,(马斯克:丹・卡林更像是一本有声读物),我刚和他聊了聊,他说你们讨论军事之类的东西。\n马斯克:是的,我觉得应该被叫做工程师战争,从本质上讲,当技术上发生快速变化的时候,工程在战斗的胜利中起着关键的作用。\n06。 火箭部分灵感来自俄罗斯 年轻人应多尝试\n72、Lex Fridman:你对二战很了解吗?\n马斯克:我们对二战中的战斗机和轰炸机技术进行过一次深入的探讨,但最终的讨论范围更广。我刚刚进行了一个研究,研究二战中所有的战斗机和轰炸机,以及不断的剪刀石头布的游戏。\n一个国家可以制造一架飞机,但另一个国家也会制造一架飞机打败上一个国家的飞机,然后第一个国家就会再制造一架飞机来打败上一架,真正重要的是创新的速度,以及获得高质量燃料和原材料的机会。\n因此,德国虽然有一些令人惊叹的设计,但他们无法制造他们,因为他们无法获得原材料,他们的石油和燃料存在问题,基本上燃料的质量非常不稳定。\n(Lex Fridman:所以设计不是瓶颈)是的,美国有非常稳定的燃料,质量非常一致。如果你想制造一个高性能的飞机发动机,那么燃料必须是一致的混合物,必须有高辛烷值,也不能有杂质之类的,不然会弄脏发动机。\n但是德国人从来没有很好的获得石油,他们试图通过入侵高加索地区来得到它,但这并没有奏效。德国一直在和劣质油作斗争,他们不能指望为他们的飞机提供高质量的燃料,所以他们必须研发一些添加剂之类的东西。\n而美国有很棒的燃料,也提供给英国,这使得英国人和美国人能够设计出超高性能的飞机发动机。德国可以设计发动机,他们只是没有燃料,然后他们得到的铝合金的质量也没有那么好。\n73、Lex Fridman:你和丹谈论过这些?\n马斯克:是的。\n74、Lex 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This compares to the Street consensus of 267,000, according to FactSet.</p><p>The highest-ranked estimate was 292,000.</p><p>Tesla previously delivered more than 305,000 cars in a single quarter. In Q3, Tesla delivered 241,300 cars.</p><p>For the full year, Elon Musk’s company delivered 936,172 vehicles, nearly double of 499,647 it delivered for 2020.</p><p>A few days ago, Deutsche Bank analyst Emmanuel Rosner reiterated a Buy rating and raised the price target to $1,200.00 per share (up from $1,000.00) on Tesla as he expected the company to top analyst estimates.</p><p>Rosner raised his 4Q deliveries to 282,000 units from the prior 268,000. Credit Suisse’s Dan Levy was expecting 290,000 EV units, while RBC’s Joseph Spak was calling for 285,000 cars.</p><p>“Looking ahead, we believe 2022 could be a pivotal year for Tesla’s future growth and profitability with ramp up of new Berlin and Austin plants, start of new vehicles, initial in-house production of 4680 battery cells, and likely broader rollout of FSD software. We model 1.47mn units in deliveries for 2022, up >60% YoY, well above Street expectations, and with further upside potential depending on chip availability. This translates to $82.8bn in revenue and $10.65 in EPS,” the Deutsche Bank analyst said in a client note.</p></body></html>","source":"highlight_streetinsider","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock Set to Open Higher After Smashing 4Q Delivery Estimates</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock Set to Open Higher After Smashing 4Q Delivery Estimates\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-01-03 14:05 GMT+8 <a href=https://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php?id=19406994><strong>StreetInsider</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Shares of Tesla are likely to open higher on Monday after the company delivered better-than-expected Q4 deliveries.Tesla said it delivered 308,600 EV units in the fourth quarter of 2021, which marks a...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php?id=19406994\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","BK4527":"明星科技股","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","TSLA":"特斯拉","BK4555":"新能源车","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","BK4099":"汽车制造商"},"source_url":"https://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php?id=19406994","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2200364440","content_text":"Shares of Tesla are likely to open higher on Monday after the company delivered better-than-expected Q4 deliveries.Tesla said it delivered 308,600 EV units in the fourth quarter of 2021, which marks a new record-setting quarterly performance. This compares to the Street consensus of 267,000, according to FactSet.The highest-ranked estimate was 292,000.Tesla previously delivered more than 305,000 cars in a single quarter. In Q3, Tesla delivered 241,300 cars.For the full year, Elon Musk’s company delivered 936,172 vehicles, nearly double of 499,647 it delivered for 2020.A few days ago, Deutsche Bank analyst Emmanuel Rosner reiterated a Buy rating and raised the price target to $1,200.00 per share (up from $1,000.00) on Tesla as he expected the company to top analyst estimates.Rosner raised his 4Q deliveries to 282,000 units from the prior 268,000. Credit Suisse’s Dan Levy was expecting 290,000 EV units, while RBC’s Joseph Spak was calling for 285,000 cars.“Looking ahead, we believe 2022 could be a pivotal year for Tesla’s future growth and profitability with ramp up of new Berlin and Austin plants, start of new vehicles, initial in-house production of 4680 battery cells, and likely broader rollout of FSD software. We model 1.47mn units in deliveries for 2022, up >60% YoY, well above Street expectations, and with further upside potential depending on chip availability. This translates to $82.8bn in revenue and $10.65 in EPS,” the Deutsche Bank analyst said in a client note.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":396,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":692483889,"gmtCreate":1641171448263,"gmtModify":1641171448884,"author":{"id":"3567295126071659","authorId":"3567295126071659","name":"RonnieSG","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/20c3815bb0969cd4ea7a26f56e53df31","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3567295126071659","idStr":"3567295126071659"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Great momentum for all member countries in this arrangement Great for the World","listText":"Great momentum for all member countries in this arrangement Great for the World","text":"Great momentum for all member countries in this arrangement Great for the World","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/692483889","repostId":"2200404994","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":283,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"hots":[{"id":842180851,"gmtCreate":1636155625281,"gmtModify":1636155626209,"author":{"id":"3567295126071659","authorId":"3567295126071659","name":"RonnieSG","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/20c3815bb0969cd4ea7a26f56e53df31","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3567295126071659","authorIdStr":"3567295126071659"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"This may be an experiment by Tesla to see if they can drastically increase sales if they market it differently. Great move. The car will sell as long as there is a good offer like this finance scheme. Anyway, many of the cars sold in the US are also leased with minimum downpayment, especially for company cars . This is a great test if the market ability to absorb more Tesla cars.","listText":"This may be an experiment by Tesla to see if they can drastically increase sales if they market it differently. Great move. The car will sell as long as there is a good offer like this finance scheme. Anyway, many of the cars sold in the US are also leased with minimum downpayment, especially for company cars . This is a great test if the market ability to absorb more Tesla cars.","text":"This may be an experiment by Tesla to see if they can drastically increase sales if they market it differently. Great move. The car will sell as long as there is a good offer like this finance scheme. Anyway, many of the cars sold in the US are also leased with minimum downpayment, especially for company cars . This is a great test if the market ability to absorb more Tesla cars.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":9,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/842180851","repostId":"2181745341","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2181745341","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1636114431,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2181745341?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-05 20:13","market":"us","language":"zh","title":"上线仅3天,特斯拉这项服务紧急叫停!","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2181745341","media":"中国经营报","summary":"仅上线3天,特斯拉“0首付”融资方案即出现变动。来源:特斯拉官网上线3天就被叫停一位特斯拉融资租赁客服人员表示,11月4日接到通知,已经取消“0首付”,改为10%首付。不过,特斯拉方面并没有公布分期利息计算方案以及是否有免息。这是特斯拉宣布进军保险业后,在金融领域的又一探索。不过,特斯拉此次推出的金融方案申请手续更为简化,优质客户仅需身份证和驾照即可办理。","content":"<html><body><article><img src=\"https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_gif/C0nPUesoncRprtN3bBgcDeYTPxtHxuEhyRufQLR1IcgF3zl5olGbndtKrBRdfic65essgjR77vTvEwWs8Kwr6uQ/640?wx_fmt=gif\"/><p>仅上线3天,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>“0首付”融资方案即出现变动。</p><p>11月4日,记者在特斯拉中国官网注意到,11月1日上线的融资租赁方案中,“0首付”选项已经取消,最低首付调整为10%。</p><img src=\"https://fid-75186.picgzc.qpic.cn/20211105202312867v201vomjoga1d6g\"/><p>来源:特斯拉官网</p><img src=\"https://fid-75186.picgzc.qpic.cn/20211105202313446v201ygmk9pmm7zd\"/><p><strong>上线3天就被叫停</strong></p><p>一位特斯拉融资租赁客服人员表示,11月4日接到通知,已经取消“0首付”,改为10%首付。原因为此前0首付订单激增导致交车时间增长,为保证用户交车时间,目前下线“0首付”,改为最低10%首付,但之前订车锁定“0首付”的用户不受影响。</p><p>11月1日,特斯拉中国官网上线全新金融服务,消费者可以通过“0首付”的融资租赁模式购买车辆。</p><p>根据方案,消费者“0首付”签订合同后,1-5年属于租赁期,采用每月分期支付租金的方式使用车辆,租赁期满后需依约重新取得车辆所有权。</p><p>此外,特斯拉还推出了30%尾款金融方案,该尾款可以5年之后归还。以ModelY标准续航升级版为例,5年期间,首付55200元,月付3272元,剩下30%的尾款在最后一次还款付清。</p><p>某特斯拉门店销售人员向记者表示,“0首付”的金融方案申请手续简化,消费者可以通过线上下单并还款。“我们的申请手续特别少,只要有身份证和驾照就行了,而且客户下订单后,可以在线上自助申请,不用在门店、金融机构之间来回跑,还款也可以在线上。”</p><p>此金融方案发布后,立即在网络上引起了广泛热议。不过,特斯拉方面并没有公布分期利息计算方案以及是否有免息。</p><p>在业界看来,在“0首付”金融方案下,部分车型月供不到5000元,意味着特斯拉购车门槛进一步降低,其目标市场将进一步扩大。不过,也有业界人士表示,“‘0首付’方案看似实惠,但实际产生的利息更需要留意。”如果按照某款特斯拉车型最低月供为4718元(60个月)计算,最终消费者需支付总额为28.308万元,相比全款车价贵了4.718万元。</p><img src=\"https://fid-75186.picgzc.qpic.cn/20211105202323974v2012yx325kfggj\"/><p><strong>经济日报评论:</strong><strong>特斯拉0首付“购车”消费者应量力而行</strong></p><p>11月1日,特斯拉官网上线全新金融服务,消费者可以通过零首付的融资租赁模式购买车辆。根据方案,消费者零首付签订合同后,1至5年内属于租赁期,采用每月分期支付租金的模式使用车辆,租赁期满后需依约重新取得车辆所有权。这是特斯拉宣布进军保险业后,在金融领域的又一探索。</p><p>汽车融资租赁是一种依托现金分期付款的方式,在此基础之上引入出租服务中所有权和使用权分离的特性,租赁结束后将所有权转移给承租人的现代营销方式,此前国内已有多家企业尝试。不过,特斯拉此次推出的金融方案申请手续更为简化,优质客户仅需身份证和驾照即可办理。同时,消费者可以通过线上下单并还款,不用在门店、金融机构之间来回奔波。再加上特斯拉头顶明星企业光环,其自营融资租赁方案甫一推出,就备受消费者热议和期待,倒也并不意外。</p><p>降低首付门槛,简化购车流程,无疑将驱动更多预算有限的消费者选择特斯拉,给特斯拉在中国市场的销量带来更大的增量。不过,需要提醒的是,消费者在选择这种方式时,也要量力而行,避免因分期还款问题,导致车财两空。毕竟,天下没有免费的午餐。</p><img src=\"https://fid-75186.picgzc.qpic.cn/20211105202324433v201bb3rtmh25sd\"/><p><strong>本质是租车不是买车</strong></p><p>据了解,汽车融资租赁是一种区别于汽车抵押贷款的汽车金融业务,主要目的都是分期购车。</p><p>汽车融资租赁业务中,在租赁期间车辆所有权属于融资租赁公司,承租人拥有车辆使用权,在租赁期结束时承租人可选择一次性购买、续租、退租等。</p><p>联合资信评估股份有限公司发布的《2021汽车融资租赁公司行业发展研究报告》显示,不少车企旗下都有租赁公司。比如<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/600104\">上汽集团</a>旗下的安吉租赁和宝马集团旗下的先锋租赁,所有者权益当时在20亿元上下,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/002594\">比亚迪</a>租赁的注册资本为4亿元。</p><p>在不少业内人士看来,融资租赁如今已是一片蓝海,各路资本正不断进入。特斯拉则在今年7月,以3000万美元注册资本抢滩金融租赁公司。但是,面临诸多难题的金融租赁模式又该如何与新能源车融合?</p><p>一位融资租赁行业人士分析认为,在融资租赁业务中,“0首付”的案例此前已有先例,本质是以租代购的营销手段,但这种手段在业内备受诟病。该业务的实质是租车而不是买车,但却用的是首付的概念,产权并不清晰。</p><p>中南财经政法大学数字经济研究院高级研究员金天表示,特斯拉以其在汽车电动化、智能化和网联化领域的突出优势,已经积累了大量忠实粉丝群体。在近年来汽车行业整体产量大于销量的整体背景下,特斯拉在包括中国在内的全球购车市场上都呈现供不应求的火爆场面,并不存在销售压力,也缺乏通过降低首付门槛吸引更多潜在消费者的商业动机。</p><p>与此同时,C端市场是一个以车主、特别是中高端车主为中心,高度强调品牌认知的消费市场,营销策略下沉可能偏离原有的目标用户定位,给整车厂商及合作服务机构都带来不可预知的改变。在这种情况下,及时叫停可能造成不确定性影响的营销策划,向传统策略回归符合理性预期。</p><p>来源:中国经济网综合中国证券报、经济日报</p><img src=\"https://fid-75186.picgzc.qpic.cn/20211105202335074v20197l08zu2tcy\"/><p>推荐阅读</p><img src=\"https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_jpg/C0nPUesoncSpaZtDM41zUS9GMM9GY4QFb1EgQ5cHTliad8bf5qG4jv4eRbhYkF4cBw5prMjibfbKGc0HJT10Do8g/640?wx_fmt=jpeg\"/><p><strong>点击大图 | 涨价风暴来袭?</strong></p><img src=\"https://fid-75186.picgzc.qpic.cn/20211105202356150v201ril7feiw5kz\"/><p><strong>点击大</strong><strong>图 | 紧急通告!内蒙古二连浩特有重要发现!郑州一度假区或为疫情传播关键点!收到这些快递不要动,接触人员主动报备!</strong></p><img src=\"https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/C0nPUesoncRbAUm9uQweVia7IbF4mRrfLRyBOEd9GWbDBAePGiaLFLSiaQlrzl5MHur3xmkn4u0Prib3lPkkMyvqNw/640?wx_fmt=png\"/><p><strong>点个“在看”再走☞</strong></p><img src=\"https://fid-75186.picgzc.qpic.cn/20211105202427383v201krjofgrlewn\"/></article></body></html>","source":"tencent","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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The bubble will burst, market has no ability to absorb more Tesla cars."}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":880468736,"gmtCreate":1631073134025,"gmtModify":1631883908698,"author":{"id":"3567295126071659","authorId":"3567295126071659","name":"RonnieSG","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/20c3815bb0969cd4ea7a26f56e53df31","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3567295126071659","authorIdStr":"3567295126071659"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PLTR\">$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$</a> bullish momentum getting stronger, as shown by the strength of the support line. Bounces back after price went down. Options pricing is also gaining strength. Waiting for more gain esp in Dec","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PLTR\">$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$</a> bullish momentum getting stronger, as shown by the strength of the support line. Bounces back after price went down. Options pricing is also gaining strength. Waiting for more gain esp in Dec","text":"$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$ bullish momentum getting stronger, as shown by the strength of the support line. Bounces back after price went down. Options pricing is also gaining strength. Waiting for more gain esp in Dec","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/20cfcd09ca500b03f88f5fcbd012c409","width":"1080","height":"2608"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":5,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/880468736","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":4115,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":885855753,"gmtCreate":1631779449572,"gmtModify":1631890364802,"author":{"id":"3567295126071659","authorId":"3567295126071659","name":"RonnieSG","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/20c3815bb0969cd4ea7a26f56e53df31","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3567295126071659","authorIdStr":"3567295126071659"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"$62 Million is a small amount as compared to her ttoal holding in TSLA. She has to unload as the $ value of TSLA stocks go up to a certaain value as constrained by the rule of her ETF that no no stock should hold more than a certain amount in value in total. This is positive news instead; you will see that she is also setting up some new ETFs to hold more of TSLA stocks to continue to take advantage of TSLA’s growth in value","listText":"$62 Million is a small amount as compared to her ttoal holding in TSLA. She has to unload as the $ value of TSLA stocks go up to a certaain value as constrained by the rule of her ETF that no no stock should hold more than a certain amount in value in total. This is positive news instead; you will see that she is also setting up some new ETFs to hold more of TSLA stocks to continue to take advantage of TSLA’s growth in value","text":"$62 Million is a small amount as compared to her ttoal holding in TSLA. She has to unload as the $ value of TSLA stocks go up to a certaain value as constrained by the rule of her ETF that no no stock should hold more than a certain amount in value in total. This is positive news instead; you will see that she is also setting up some new ETFs to hold more of TSLA stocks to continue to take advantage of TSLA’s growth in value","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":8,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/885855753","repostId":"2167287516","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2167287516","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1631773899,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2167287516?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-09-16 14:31","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Cathie Wood Keeps Selling Tesla, Unloading $62 Million of Shares","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2167287516","media":"Bloomberg","summary":"Cathie Wood’s exchange-traded funds sold more Tesla Inc. shares, taking the total value of the electric vehicle maker’s stock they’ve offloaded this month to about $266 million.The ARK Innovation and ARK Next Generation Internet ETFs sold over 81,600 shares in Tesla on Wednesday, according to ARK Investment’s daily trading update. At closing prices, that puts the value at about $62 million.Ark funds have sold more than 350,000 Tesla shares in September so far. Still, the Elon Musk-led company is","content":"<p>Cathie Wood’s exchange-traded funds sold more Tesla Inc. shares, taking the total value of the electric vehicle maker’s stock they’ve offloaded this month to about $266 million.</p>\n<p>The ARK Innovation and ARK Next Generation Internet ETFs sold over 81,600 shares in Tesla on Wednesday, according to ARK Investment’s daily trading update. At closing prices, that puts the value at about $62 million.</p>\n<p>Ark funds have sold more than 350,000 Tesla shares in September so far. Still, the Elon Musk-led company is their biggest holding, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Tesla shares have been rebounding since mid-May, gaining about 34% in the period.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5aa38d91890a0804df0621f0aab8f5e4\" tg-width=\"1200\" tg-height=\"675\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>Ark’s strategy regularly involves selling some of its winners to invest in other targets. As the firm trimmed its Tesla stake last year, Wood told CNBC it was “wise portfolio management” to control position sizes.</p>\n<p>Ark’s daily trading update reflects portfolio changes made by its investment team and excludes creation and redemption activity and public offerings; for this reason it may not fully reflect all of the firm’s trades.</p>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Cathie Wood Keeps Selling Tesla, Unloading $62 Million of Shares</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nCathie Wood Keeps Selling Tesla, Unloading $62 Million of Shares\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-09-16 14:31 GMT+8 <a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-16/cathie-wood-keeps-selling-tesla-unloading-62-million-of-shares?srnd=premium-asia><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Cathie Wood’s exchange-traded funds sold more Tesla Inc. shares, taking the total value of the electric vehicle maker’s stock they’ve offloaded this month to about $266 million.\nThe ARK Innovation and...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-16/cathie-wood-keeps-selling-tesla-unloading-62-million-of-shares?srnd=premium-asia\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"ARKW":"ARK Next Generation Internation ETF","ARKK":"ARK Innovation ETF","TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-16/cathie-wood-keeps-selling-tesla-unloading-62-million-of-shares?srnd=premium-asia","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2167287516","content_text":"Cathie Wood’s exchange-traded funds sold more Tesla Inc. shares, taking the total value of the electric vehicle maker’s stock they’ve offloaded this month to about $266 million.\nThe ARK Innovation and ARK Next Generation Internet ETFs sold over 81,600 shares in Tesla on Wednesday, according to ARK Investment’s daily trading update. At closing prices, that puts the value at about $62 million.\nArk funds have sold more than 350,000 Tesla shares in September so far. Still, the Elon Musk-led company is their biggest holding, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Tesla shares have been rebounding since mid-May, gaining about 34% in the period.\n\nArk’s strategy regularly involves selling some of its winners to invest in other targets. As the firm trimmed its Tesla stake last year, Wood told CNBC it was “wise portfolio management” to control position sizes.\nArk’s daily trading update reflects portfolio changes made by its investment team and excludes creation and redemption activity and public offerings; for this reason it may not fully reflect all of the firm’s trades.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":203,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":178782847,"gmtCreate":1626837761389,"gmtModify":1633770513833,"author":{"id":"3567295126071659","authorId":"3567295126071659","name":"RonnieSG","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/20c3815bb0969cd4ea7a26f56e53df31","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3567295126071659","authorIdStr":"3567295126071659"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"It has been taking a long wait already. Now is the time to move up. Consolidating for the 2q result","listText":"It has been taking a long wait already. Now is the time to move up. Consolidating for the 2q result","text":"It has been taking a long wait already. Now is the time to move up. Consolidating for the 2q result","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":10,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/178782847","repostId":"1108406839","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":172,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":372598960,"gmtCreate":1619225747450,"gmtModify":1634287659307,"author":{"id":"3567295126071659","authorId":"3567295126071659","name":"RonnieSG","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/20c3815bb0969cd4ea7a26f56e53df31","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3567295126071659","authorIdStr":"3567295126071659"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Yes man. Hopefully they do","listText":"Yes man. Hopefully they do","text":"Yes man. Hopefully they do","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":4,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/372598960","repostId":"1166519043","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":66,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":349145928,"gmtCreate":1617583477264,"gmtModify":1634520469922,"author":{"id":"3567295126071659","authorId":"3567295126071659","name":"RonnieSG","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/20c3815bb0969cd4ea7a26f56e53df31","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3567295126071659","authorIdStr":"3567295126071659"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Great news, more to come in the upcoming quarters. Likely late, but still a good candidate for upward momentum. Pl comment and like. Thanks","listText":"Great news, more to come in the upcoming quarters. Likely late, but still a good candidate for upward momentum. Pl comment and like. Thanks","text":"Great news, more to come in the upcoming quarters. Likely late, but still a good candidate for upward momentum. Pl comment and like. Thanks","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":7,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/349145928","repostId":"2124875875","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2124875875","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1617366960,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2124875875?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-04-02 20:36","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Q1 2021 Vehicle Production & Deliveries","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2124875875","media":"StreetInsider","summary":"PALO ALTO, Calif., April 02, 2021 -- In the first quarter, we produced just over 180,000 vehicles and delivered nearly 185,000 vehicles. We are encouraged by the strong reception of the Model Y in China and are quickly progressing to full production capacity. The new Model S and Model X have also been exceptionally well received, with the new equipment installed and tested in Q1 and we are in the early stages of ramping production.Forward-Looking Statements Statements herein regarding the timin","content":"<p>PALO ALTO, Calif., April 02, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- In the first quarter, we produced just over 180,000 vehicles and delivered nearly 185,000 vehicles. We are encouraged by the strong reception of the Model Y in China and are quickly progressing to full production capacity. 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Final numbers could vary by up to 0.5% or more. Tesla vehicle deliveries represent only <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE\">one</a> measure of the company’s financial performance and should not be relied on as an indicator of quarterly financial results, which depend on a variety of factors, including the cost of sales, foreign exchange movements and mix of directly leased vehicles.</p>\n<p><b>Forward-Looking Statements</b> Statements herein regarding the timing and future progress of our vehicle production ramp are “forward-looking statements” based on management’s current expectations and that are subject to risks and uncertainties. Various important factors could cause actual results to differ materially, including the risks identified in our SEC filings. 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We are encouraged by the strong reception of ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php?id=18215929\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php?id=18215929","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2124875875","content_text":"PALO ALTO, Calif., April 02, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- In the first quarter, we produced just over 180,000 vehicles and delivered nearly 185,000 vehicles. We are encouraged by the strong reception of the Model Y in China and are quickly progressing to full production capacity. The new Model S and Model X have also been exceptionally well received, with the new equipment installed and tested in Q1 and we are in the early stages of ramping production.\n\n\n\n\nProduction\nDeliveries\nSubject to operating lease accounting\n\n\nModel S/X\n-\n2,020\n6%\n\n\nModel 3/Y\n180,338\n182,780\n7%\n\n\nTotal\n180,338\n184,800\n7%\n\n\n\n***************\nOur net income and cash flow results will be announced along with the rest of our financial performance when we announce Q1 earnings. Our delivery count should be viewed as slightly conservative, as we only count a car as delivered if it is transferred to the customer and all paperwork is correct. Final numbers could vary by up to 0.5% or more. 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Great","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/355878610","repostId":"1197127356","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":79,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":325973613,"gmtCreate":1615860421532,"gmtModify":1703494101581,"author":{"id":"3567295126071659","authorId":"3567295126071659","name":"RonnieSG","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/20c3815bb0969cd4ea7a26f56e53df31","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3567295126071659","authorIdStr":"3567295126071659"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Still a great stock with big market shate","listText":"Still a great stock with big market shate","text":"Still a great stock with big market shate","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/325973613","repostId":"2119941718","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":188,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":605224931,"gmtCreate":1639183310134,"gmtModify":1639183310719,"author":{"id":"3567295126071659","authorId":"3567295126071659","name":"RonnieSG","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/20c3815bb0969cd4ea7a26f56e53df31","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3567295126071659","authorIdStr":"3567295126071659"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"This will increase the surge for demand once it reopens. Great marketing technique as they already have the orders that they cannot fulfil for the next 2 years. Tesla does not advertise, but their marketing techniques are the key to driving demand for their EVs. Good One, Tesla.","listText":"This will increase the surge for demand once it reopens. Great marketing technique as they already have the orders that they cannot fulfil for the next 2 years. Tesla does not advertise, but their marketing techniques are the key to driving demand for their EVs. Good One, Tesla.","text":"This will increase the surge for demand once it reopens. Great marketing technique as they already have the orders that they cannot fulfil for the next 2 years. Tesla does not advertise, but their marketing techniques are the key to driving demand for their EVs. Good One, Tesla.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/605224931","repostId":"2190678514","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":212,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3479274787036362","authorId":"3479274787036362","name":"huuou","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/picture129","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3479274787036362","authorIdStr":"3479274787036362"},"content":"Tesla is definitely a great company. But at present, the stock price is seriously overvalued and not worth investing in.","text":"Tesla is definitely a great company. But at present, the stock price is seriously overvalued and not worth investing in.","html":"Tesla is definitely a great company. But at present, the stock price is seriously overvalued and not worth investing in."}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":858615553,"gmtCreate":1635044116555,"gmtModify":1635044117504,"author":{"id":"3567295126071659","authorId":"3567295126071659","name":"RonnieSG","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/20c3815bb0969cd4ea7a26f56e53df31","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3567295126071659","authorIdStr":"3567295126071659"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">$Alibaba(BABA)$</a> good timing for recovery","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">$Alibaba(BABA)$</a> good timing for recovery","text":"$Alibaba(BABA)$ good timing for recovery","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dcb98ddb1d55d1d9663f09e3fbaa5673","width":"1080","height":"2707"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":1,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/858615553","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":138,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":888288855,"gmtCreate":1631499310077,"gmtModify":1631883626167,"author":{"id":"3567295126071659","authorId":"3567295126071659","name":"RonnieSG","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/20c3815bb0969cd4ea7a26f56e53df31","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3567295126071659","authorIdStr":"3567295126071659"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TIGR\">$Tiger Brokers(TIGR)$</a> has potential to bounce up again this week","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TIGR\">$Tiger Brokers(TIGR)$</a> has potential to bounce up again this week","text":"$Tiger Brokers(TIGR)$ has potential to bounce up again this week","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/61fd255b72d517de8e7c92f33934d417","width":"1080","height":"2608"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":7,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/888288855","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":255,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":169053000,"gmtCreate":1623809953700,"gmtModify":1634027770378,"author":{"id":"3567295126071659","authorId":"3567295126071659","name":"RonnieSG","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/20c3815bb0969cd4ea7a26f56e53df31","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3567295126071659","authorIdStr":"3567295126071659"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Definitely the stock to bet on. So many positives in a volatile market. Allow it to consolidate and bounce back","listText":"Definitely the stock to bet on. So many positives in a volatile market. Allow it to consolidate and bounce back","text":"Definitely the stock to bet on. So many positives in a volatile market. Allow it to consolidate and bounce back","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/169053000","repostId":"1105892749","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1105892749","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1623809672,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1105892749?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-16 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Bulls Look for Stock Catalysts. They Found Three.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1105892749","media":"Barrons","summary":"Weak performance from Tesla stock has bullish analysts feeling disappointed these days. They are looking for catalysts to break shares out of their recent funk.That performance is flummoxing Tesla bulls. “Let’s begin with a healthy dose of intellectual honesty on the starting point for the stock,” writes Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas in a Monday evening report. He is a Tesla bull rating shares Buy. His price target for the stock is $900 a share, almost 50% higher than recent levels. “Even bu","content":"<p>Weak performance from Tesla stock has bullish analysts feeling disappointed these days. They are looking for catalysts to break shares out of their recent funk.</p>\n<p>Tesla stock (ticker: TSLA) is down about 15% year to date and off about 50% from its January 52-week high of $900.40. Tesla has ceded leadership—from a stock perspective—back to traditional auto makers: General Motors (GM) and Ford Motor (F) shares are up 45% and 70% year to date, respectively.</p>\n<p>That performance is flummoxing Tesla bulls. “Let’s begin with a healthy dose of intellectual honesty on the starting point for the stock,” writes Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas in a Monday evening report. He is a Tesla bull rating shares Buy. His price target for the stock is $900 a share, almost 50% higher than recent levels. “Even bulls should admit that the rise in the stock price during the second half of 2020, while perhaps deserved in principle, was packed into a highly concentrated time frame,” he writes.</p>\n<p>Tesla shares rose 227% in the second half of 2020, buoyed by strong earnings, strong deliveries, and the stock’s inclusion in the S&P 500.</p>\n<p>“The stock had the better part of five years-worth of performance packed into about five month,” Jonas adds. He says his clients are now looking for the next big thing that can drive the stock forward again. His ideas include capacity expansion in Texas and Germany. After that, he predicts Tesla will open up five more plants between now and the middle of this decade.</p>\n<p>Jonas is also looking for Tesla to unveil another new vehicle model. By his estimation, Tesla covers only about 15% of the total addressable market for the auto industry with its Y, X, 3, and S models. Model expansion will be a positive. That isn’t on the near-term horizon, though the company is due to deliver its Cybertruck later in 2021.</p>\n<p>Canaccord analyst Jonathan Dorsheimer is looking in a different area for a catalyst: residential solar power. Part of the reason he is bullish is that “Tesla is creating an energy brand and an Apple-esque ecosystem of products with customer focused connectivity, seamlessly marrying car, solar, and back-up power,” he wrote in a report released Sunday.</p>\n<p>Dorsheimer is bullish, but feeling a little down lately. He still rates the stock Buy, but he cut his price target to $812 from $974 in his report. Among other things, he is disappointed by battery delays. Tesla is planning to use larger battery cells that promise better range, charge time, and costs. Those batteries aren’t available yet.</p>\n<p>Looking a little further back, Goldman Sachs analyst Mark Delaney was watching Tesla’s Model S Plaid delivery event last week. The Plaid can go zero to 60 miles per hour in less than two seconds. Delaney was impressed by the technology, but pointed out the Plaid, at roughly $130,000, is a niche vehicle. He is looking for 2021 deliveries to exceed expectations. Delaney is modeling 875,000 vehicles for Tesla in 2021. The Wall Street consensus number is closer to 825,000.</p>\n<p>Delaney rates shares Buy and has an $860 price target.</p>\n<p>New production ramping up, strong deliveries, and a growing solar business is what these three will watch for in coming months. If all goes well, those catalysts should be enough to drive Tesla stock higher, as long as there is no bad news in the meantime.</p>\n<p>Tesla stock was down 3% to $599.36 on Tuesday, and down slightly for the week.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Bulls Look for Stock Catalysts. 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They are looking for catalysts to break shares out of their recent funk.\nTesla stock (ticker: TSLA) is down ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-bulls-look-for-stock-catalysts-they-found-three-51623774479?mod=RTA\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-bulls-look-for-stock-catalysts-they-found-three-51623774479?mod=RTA","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1105892749","content_text":"Weak performance from Tesla stock has bullish analysts feeling disappointed these days. They are looking for catalysts to break shares out of their recent funk.\nTesla stock (ticker: TSLA) is down about 15% year to date and off about 50% from its January 52-week high of $900.40. Tesla has ceded leadership—from a stock perspective—back to traditional auto makers: General Motors (GM) and Ford Motor (F) shares are up 45% and 70% year to date, respectively.\nThat performance is flummoxing Tesla bulls. “Let’s begin with a healthy dose of intellectual honesty on the starting point for the stock,” writes Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas in a Monday evening report. He is a Tesla bull rating shares Buy. His price target for the stock is $900 a share, almost 50% higher than recent levels. “Even bulls should admit that the rise in the stock price during the second half of 2020, while perhaps deserved in principle, was packed into a highly concentrated time frame,” he writes.\nTesla shares rose 227% in the second half of 2020, buoyed by strong earnings, strong deliveries, and the stock’s inclusion in the S&P 500.\n“The stock had the better part of five years-worth of performance packed into about five month,” Jonas adds. He says his clients are now looking for the next big thing that can drive the stock forward again. His ideas include capacity expansion in Texas and Germany. After that, he predicts Tesla will open up five more plants between now and the middle of this decade.\nJonas is also looking for Tesla to unveil another new vehicle model. By his estimation, Tesla covers only about 15% of the total addressable market for the auto industry with its Y, X, 3, and S models. Model expansion will be a positive. That isn’t on the near-term horizon, though the company is due to deliver its Cybertruck later in 2021.\nCanaccord analyst Jonathan Dorsheimer is looking in a different area for a catalyst: residential solar power. Part of the reason he is bullish is that “Tesla is creating an energy brand and an Apple-esque ecosystem of products with customer focused connectivity, seamlessly marrying car, solar, and back-up power,” he wrote in a report released Sunday.\nDorsheimer is bullish, but feeling a little down lately. He still rates the stock Buy, but he cut his price target to $812 from $974 in his report. Among other things, he is disappointed by battery delays. Tesla is planning to use larger battery cells that promise better range, charge time, and costs. Those batteries aren’t available yet.\nLooking a little further back, Goldman Sachs analyst Mark Delaney was watching Tesla’s Model S Plaid delivery event last week. The Plaid can go zero to 60 miles per hour in less than two seconds. Delaney was impressed by the technology, but pointed out the Plaid, at roughly $130,000, is a niche vehicle. He is looking for 2021 deliveries to exceed expectations. Delaney is modeling 875,000 vehicles for Tesla in 2021. The Wall Street consensus number is closer to 825,000.\nDelaney rates shares Buy and has an $860 price target.\nNew production ramping up, strong deliveries, and a growing solar business is what these three will watch for in coming months. If all goes well, those catalysts should be enough to drive Tesla stock higher, as long as there is no bad news in the meantime.\nTesla stock was down 3% to $599.36 on Tuesday, and down slightly for the week.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":76,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":196163807,"gmtCreate":1621037101209,"gmtModify":1634194454787,"author":{"id":"3567295126071659","authorId":"3567295126071659","name":"RonnieSG","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/20c3815bb0969cd4ea7a26f56e53df31","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3567295126071659","authorIdStr":"3567295126071659"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"This is characteristics of someone that can help the future","listText":"This is characteristics of someone that can help the future","text":"This is characteristics of someone that can help the future","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":7,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/196163807","repostId":"2135605911","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2135605911","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Reuters.com brings you the latest news from around the world, covering breaking news in markets, business, politics, entertainment and technology","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Reuters","id":"1036604489","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868"},"pubTimestamp":1621000324,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2135605911?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-05-14 21:52","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Analysis: How murky legal rules allow Tesla's Musk to keep moving markets","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2135605911","media":"Reuters","summary":"By Katanga Johnson and Chris PrenticeWASHINGTON (Reuters) - With his cult following, Telsa boss Elon","content":"<p>By Katanga Johnson and Chris Prentice</p><p>WASHINGTON (Reuters) - With his cult following, Telsa boss Elon Musk has amassed considerable power to move markets with his musings, but murky rules make it difficult for regulators to rein him in.</p><p>The celebrity CEO, who boasts more than 54 million <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter</a> followers and has a devoted constituency on Reddit, has whipsawed the cryptocurrency market and sent some stocks soaring this year with a series of tweets and business announcements.</p><p>That power was in evidence this week. A Musk tweet on Wednesday that Tesla would no longer accept payments in bitcoin sent the cryptocurrency tumbling 17%, roiling bitcoin futures and dragging down the broader cryptocurrency market.</p><p>Dogecoin had an even wilder ride this week, first spiralling downward after Musk called it \"a hustle\" during the U.S. \"Saturday Night Live\" TV show. Hours later, it jumped when Musk announced his commercial rocket company SpaceX would accept it for payment. The upstart cryptocurrency received a further bump on Thursday when Musk said he was involved in work to improve its transaction efficiency.</p><p>While consumer advocates said Musk was hurting investors and making a mockery of the public markets, it was unclear that he was breaking any rules simply by wielding his influence.</p><p>\"The problem here is that a loose cannon CEO continues to shoot his mouth off about any number of potential market moving events,\" said Dennis Kelleher, CEO of think tank Better Markets. \"It's clearly grossly irresponsible but it may not be illegal.\"</p><p>A spokesman for Tesla did not respond to a request for comment.</p><p>Musk's tweets about dogecoin in recent months triggered a rally in the digital currency, which started as a social media parody. Near worthless in late 2020, dogecoin has surged to become the fourth-largest cryptocurrency by market cap, according to CoinMarketCap.com.</p><p>Other tweets this year about retailer GameStop and online marketplace Etsy also appeared to boost their shares, while investors mistakenly snapped up shares in device maker Signal Advance believing it was the trading ticker for chat app Signal, which Musk had endorsed.</p><p>However, lawyers said Musk would need to move an asset price with the aim of enriching himself or people close to him, or operate with inside information, to fall foul of the law. Reuters could not ascertain Musk's asset holdings.</p><p>For some, the multi-billionaire is no different from top investors like Warren Buffett or Ray Dalio, who were influencing markets long before Musk. And Musk's use of social media to reach people directly may have muddied the legal waters in his favor.</p><p>\"In the past, access to these leaders were filtered through staff and press releases. Now, the general public must evaluate this information directly,\" said Timothy Shields, a partner at law firm Kelley Kronenberg who focuses on technology.</p><p>\"Where Musk's speech reflects himself personally versus Telsa is very difficult for regulators to separate and therefore regulate.\"</p><p>The Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which regulates bitcoin derivatives, did not respond to requests for comment. A spokesperson for the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) said that as a matter of course, the SEC and U.S. exchanges \"monitor for suspicious activities across regulated markets.\"</p><p><b>SEC SETTLEMENT</b></p><p>Musk has crossed the line before. In August 2018, he sent Tesla's shares soaring with a tweet that he had \"funding secured\" to take Tesla private, when he was not even close.</p><p>The SEC subsequently fined Musk $20 million for securities fraud and Tesla $20 million for inadequate disclosures and controls over Musk's Twitter account. The SEC also ordered Tesla to vet any material public communications Musk made regarding Tesla.</p><p>But just months later, the SEC said that Musk violated that settlement with a tweet about Tesla's production outlook that had not been vetted. Musk's attorneys contested https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-musk-sec/musks-lawyers-call-tweet-in-secs-contempt-bid-not-material-idUSKCN1R32SF the allegation, saying the Tweet was old news and not material.</p><p>The SEC subsequently tightened Tesla's settlement by detailing a raft of issues Musk was barred from riffing about without approval.</p><p>Lawyers said Musk's Wednesday tweet on Tesla's bitcoin about-face was carefully crafted and, as such, did not appear to breach that settlement.</p><p>Philip Moustakis of law firm Seward & Kissel said Musk and Tesla could in theory get into hot water if the statement was false or misleading, for example, if Tesla had sold bitcoin before the announcement. But, he added, \"I would be surprised.\"</p><p>(Reporting by Katanga Johnson and Chris Prentice, additional reporting by Tom Westbrook, writing by Michelle Price; editing by Jane Wardell)</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Analysis: How murky legal rules allow Tesla's Musk to keep moving markets</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAnalysis: How murky legal rules allow Tesla's Musk to keep moving markets\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1036604489\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Reuters </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2021-05-14 21:52</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>By Katanga Johnson and Chris Prentice</p><p>WASHINGTON (Reuters) - With his cult following, Telsa boss Elon Musk has amassed considerable power to move markets with his musings, but murky rules make it difficult for regulators to rein him in.</p><p>The celebrity CEO, who boasts more than 54 million <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWTR\">Twitter</a> followers and has a devoted constituency on Reddit, has whipsawed the cryptocurrency market and sent some stocks soaring this year with a series of tweets and business announcements.</p><p>That power was in evidence this week. A Musk tweet on Wednesday that Tesla would no longer accept payments in bitcoin sent the cryptocurrency tumbling 17%, roiling bitcoin futures and dragging down the broader cryptocurrency market.</p><p>Dogecoin had an even wilder ride this week, first spiralling downward after Musk called it \"a hustle\" during the U.S. \"Saturday Night Live\" TV show. Hours later, it jumped when Musk announced his commercial rocket company SpaceX would accept it for payment. The upstart cryptocurrency received a further bump on Thursday when Musk said he was involved in work to improve its transaction efficiency.</p><p>While consumer advocates said Musk was hurting investors and making a mockery of the public markets, it was unclear that he was breaking any rules simply by wielding his influence.</p><p>\"The problem here is that a loose cannon CEO continues to shoot his mouth off about any number of potential market moving events,\" said Dennis Kelleher, CEO of think tank Better Markets. \"It's clearly grossly irresponsible but it may not be illegal.\"</p><p>A spokesman for Tesla did not respond to a request for comment.</p><p>Musk's tweets about dogecoin in recent months triggered a rally in the digital currency, which started as a social media parody. Near worthless in late 2020, dogecoin has surged to become the fourth-largest cryptocurrency by market cap, according to CoinMarketCap.com.</p><p>Other tweets this year about retailer GameStop and online marketplace Etsy also appeared to boost their shares, while investors mistakenly snapped up shares in device maker Signal Advance believing it was the trading ticker for chat app Signal, which Musk had endorsed.</p><p>However, lawyers said Musk would need to move an asset price with the aim of enriching himself or people close to him, or operate with inside information, to fall foul of the law. Reuters could not ascertain Musk's asset holdings.</p><p>For some, the multi-billionaire is no different from top investors like Warren Buffett or Ray Dalio, who were influencing markets long before Musk. And Musk's use of social media to reach people directly may have muddied the legal waters in his favor.</p><p>\"In the past, access to these leaders were filtered through staff and press releases. Now, the general public must evaluate this information directly,\" said Timothy Shields, a partner at law firm Kelley Kronenberg who focuses on technology.</p><p>\"Where Musk's speech reflects himself personally versus Telsa is very difficult for regulators to separate and therefore regulate.\"</p><p>The Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which regulates bitcoin derivatives, did not respond to requests for comment. A spokesperson for the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) said that as a matter of course, the SEC and U.S. exchanges \"monitor for suspicious activities across regulated markets.\"</p><p><b>SEC SETTLEMENT</b></p><p>Musk has crossed the line before. In August 2018, he sent Tesla's shares soaring with a tweet that he had \"funding secured\" to take Tesla private, when he was not even close.</p><p>The SEC subsequently fined Musk $20 million for securities fraud and Tesla $20 million for inadequate disclosures and controls over Musk's Twitter account. The SEC also ordered Tesla to vet any material public communications Musk made regarding Tesla.</p><p>But just months later, the SEC said that Musk violated that settlement with a tweet about Tesla's production outlook that had not been vetted. Musk's attorneys contested https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-musk-sec/musks-lawyers-call-tweet-in-secs-contempt-bid-not-material-idUSKCN1R32SF the allegation, saying the Tweet was old news and not material.</p><p>The SEC subsequently tightened Tesla's settlement by detailing a raft of issues Musk was barred from riffing about without approval.</p><p>Lawyers said Musk's Wednesday tweet on Tesla's bitcoin about-face was carefully crafted and, as such, did not appear to breach that settlement.</p><p>Philip Moustakis of law firm Seward & Kissel said Musk and Tesla could in theory get into hot water if the statement was false or misleading, for example, if Tesla had sold bitcoin before the announcement. But, he added, \"I would be surprised.\"</p><p>(Reporting by Katanga Johnson and Chris Prentice, additional reporting by Tom Westbrook, writing by Michelle Price; editing by Jane Wardell)</p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2135605911","content_text":"By Katanga Johnson and Chris PrenticeWASHINGTON (Reuters) - With his cult following, Telsa boss Elon Musk has amassed considerable power to move markets with his musings, but murky rules make it difficult for regulators to rein him in.The celebrity CEO, who boasts more than 54 million Twitter followers and has a devoted constituency on Reddit, has whipsawed the cryptocurrency market and sent some stocks soaring this year with a series of tweets and business announcements.That power was in evidence this week. A Musk tweet on Wednesday that Tesla would no longer accept payments in bitcoin sent the cryptocurrency tumbling 17%, roiling bitcoin futures and dragging down the broader cryptocurrency market.Dogecoin had an even wilder ride this week, first spiralling downward after Musk called it \"a hustle\" during the U.S. \"Saturday Night Live\" TV show. Hours later, it jumped when Musk announced his commercial rocket company SpaceX would accept it for payment. The upstart cryptocurrency received a further bump on Thursday when Musk said he was involved in work to improve its transaction efficiency.While consumer advocates said Musk was hurting investors and making a mockery of the public markets, it was unclear that he was breaking any rules simply by wielding his influence.\"The problem here is that a loose cannon CEO continues to shoot his mouth off about any number of potential market moving events,\" said Dennis Kelleher, CEO of think tank Better Markets. \"It's clearly grossly irresponsible but it may not be illegal.\"A spokesman for Tesla did not respond to a request for comment.Musk's tweets about dogecoin in recent months triggered a rally in the digital currency, which started as a social media parody. Near worthless in late 2020, dogecoin has surged to become the fourth-largest cryptocurrency by market cap, according to CoinMarketCap.com.Other tweets this year about retailer GameStop and online marketplace Etsy also appeared to boost their shares, while investors mistakenly snapped up shares in device maker Signal Advance believing it was the trading ticker for chat app Signal, which Musk had endorsed.However, lawyers said Musk would need to move an asset price with the aim of enriching himself or people close to him, or operate with inside information, to fall foul of the law. Reuters could not ascertain Musk's asset holdings.For some, the multi-billionaire is no different from top investors like Warren Buffett or Ray Dalio, who were influencing markets long before Musk. And Musk's use of social media to reach people directly may have muddied the legal waters in his favor.\"In the past, access to these leaders were filtered through staff and press releases. Now, the general public must evaluate this information directly,\" said Timothy Shields, a partner at law firm Kelley Kronenberg who focuses on technology.\"Where Musk's speech reflects himself personally versus Telsa is very difficult for regulators to separate and therefore regulate.\"The Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which regulates bitcoin derivatives, did not respond to requests for comment. A spokesperson for the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) said that as a matter of course, the SEC and U.S. exchanges \"monitor for suspicious activities across regulated markets.\"SEC SETTLEMENTMusk has crossed the line before. In August 2018, he sent Tesla's shares soaring with a tweet that he had \"funding secured\" to take Tesla private, when he was not even close.The SEC subsequently fined Musk $20 million for securities fraud and Tesla $20 million for inadequate disclosures and controls over Musk's Twitter account. The SEC also ordered Tesla to vet any material public communications Musk made regarding Tesla.But just months later, the SEC said that Musk violated that settlement with a tweet about Tesla's production outlook that had not been vetted. Musk's attorneys contested https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-musk-sec/musks-lawyers-call-tweet-in-secs-contempt-bid-not-material-idUSKCN1R32SF the allegation, saying the Tweet was old news and not material.The SEC subsequently tightened Tesla's settlement by detailing a raft of issues Musk was barred from riffing about without approval.Lawyers said Musk's Wednesday tweet on Tesla's bitcoin about-face was carefully crafted and, as such, did not appear to breach that settlement.Philip Moustakis of law firm Seward & Kissel said Musk and Tesla could in theory get into hot water if the statement was false or misleading, for example, if Tesla had sold bitcoin before the announcement. 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Chairman Robyn Denholm sold 31,250 shares of the electric-vehicle maker for more than $22","content":"<p>Tesla Inc. Chairman Robyn Denholm sold 31,250 shares of the electric-vehicle maker for more than $22 million, according to a regulatory filing late Wednesday.</p>\n<p>Denholm, who recently testified in a Delaware court as part of a shareholder lawsuit over Tesla’s controversial 2016 acquisition of SolarCity, has served on Tesla’s board since August 2014.</p>\n<p>She became chair in November 2018 after Chief Executive Officer Elon Musk was forced to relinquish the role as part of his settlement agreement with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. The SEC agreement, announced in September of 2018, required Musk to step down from the role and be replaced by an independent chairman for three years.</p>\n<p>Those three years are almost up, meaning that Musk could potentially resume the role. Tesla has yet to file its proxy for the 2021 shareholder meeting.</p>\n<p>Denholm lives in Australia and was previously the chief financial officer at Australian telecoms company Telstra Corp.</p>\n<p>The filing Wednesday shows she exercised options to purchase the shares, paying the required strike prices, then subsequently sold the stock. All the transactions were executed on Aug. 2 and the shares were sold at weighted average prices ranging from $700 to $726.11.</p>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Chairman Robyn Denholm Sells Shares Worth Over $22 Million</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Chairman Robyn Denholm Sells Shares Worth Over $22 Million\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-08-05 10:37 GMT+8 <a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-05/tesla-chairman-robyn-denholm-sells-shares-worth-over-22-million?srnd=premium-asia><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla Inc. Chairman Robyn Denholm sold 31,250 shares of the electric-vehicle maker for more than $22 million, according to a regulatory filing late Wednesday.\nDenholm, who recently testified in a ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-05/tesla-chairman-robyn-denholm-sells-shares-worth-over-22-million?srnd=premium-asia\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-05/tesla-chairman-robyn-denholm-sells-shares-worth-over-22-million?srnd=premium-asia","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2157481973","content_text":"Tesla Inc. Chairman Robyn Denholm sold 31,250 shares of the electric-vehicle maker for more than $22 million, according to a regulatory filing late Wednesday.\nDenholm, who recently testified in a Delaware court as part of a shareholder lawsuit over Tesla’s controversial 2016 acquisition of SolarCity, has served on Tesla’s board since August 2014.\nShe became chair in November 2018 after Chief Executive Officer Elon Musk was forced to relinquish the role as part of his settlement agreement with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. The SEC agreement, announced in September of 2018, required Musk to step down from the role and be replaced by an independent chairman for three years.\nThose three years are almost up, meaning that Musk could potentially resume the role. Tesla has yet to file its proxy for the 2021 shareholder meeting.\nDenholm lives in Australia and was previously the chief financial officer at Australian telecoms company Telstra Corp.\nThe filing Wednesday shows she exercised options to purchase the shares, paying the required strike prices, then subsequently sold the stock. All the transactions were executed on Aug. 2 and the shares were sold at weighted average prices ranging from $700 to $726.11.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":162,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":117077498,"gmtCreate":1623112018914,"gmtModify":1634036881868,"author":{"id":"3567295126071659","authorId":"3567295126071659","name":"RonnieSG","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/20c3815bb0969cd4ea7a26f56e53df31","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3567295126071659","authorIdStr":"3567295126071659"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Good time to be positive about Aapl. Has been some time since the last upgrade. ","listText":"Good time to be positive about Aapl. Has been some time since the last upgrade. ","text":"Good time to be positive about Aapl. 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Often, it saves its best launches for the fall, around when new iPhones come out. This year, it released new Mac computers and iPads in the spring. But, sometimes it reveals new computers that run on the latest software. This year, some rumors have suggested it may introduce new MacBook Pro laptops and possibly an update to the AirPods headphones.We'll have everything Apple announces in the live blog below.The event begins at 1 p.m. Eastern.Is the iPad a computer yet?I can’t tell you how many WWDCs I’ve sat through where Apple claimed it’s beefed up the multitasking capabilities of the iPad in order to make it function more like a regular laptop.And Apple did it again today. (See Kif’s early blog entry for more details.)But none of those updates matter if app developers don’t take advantage of these features. Historically, it’s been difficult for Apple to convince developers to take the iPad seriously as a computer replacement, which is why the tablets are still mostly used for consumption, not creation.It’s way better than it used to be. (In fact, I use my iPad more than I use my MacBook these days.) But there’s still a long way to go for the iPad to catch up to the MacBook.There’s an easier solution though: Just put a touchscreen on the MacBook. Please.--Steve KovachApple announces new iPad software called iPadOS 15 that lets you do more at onceiPadOS Source: AppleApple announced new iPad software called iPadOS 15.IPadOS 15 includes new ways to rearrange iPad apps, put widgets on the home screen and the App Library feature, formerly iPhone exclusive, that automatically organizes apps.Apple also introduced a new multitasking interface that makes it easier to put two apps side by side on the iPad screen.The Apple notes app has been updated to better interface with other apps. One feature, called Quick Notes, lets users jot notes using the Apple Pencil, a stylus.A new version of the Translate app for iPads allows users to speak and have the discussion translated on-screen in real time.Apple’s app for learning how to code, Swift Playgrounds, can now build full apps, which can be submitted to the App Store Apple said.— Kif LeswingApple’s AirPods headphones can now be used to improve hearingA new feature coming to AirPods called “Conversation Boost” helps people better understand who they’re talking to in real time in a busy environment. Users can also adjust ambient background noise levels to help improve audio. Siri will also soon read important notifications, if you want it to, instead of just incoming calls and messages. — Kif LeswingApple Maps gets big new update with more city details and 3D modelsApple is updating its maps software with new 3D data. It now includes turning lanes and other road conditions. It is expanding to Spain, Portugal, Italy and Australia later this year, Apple said.— Kif LeswingIf you thought Facebook was angry with Apple before today...The slew of new communication features Apple announced for iOS 15 on Monday are sure to have Mark Zuckerberg’s blood boiling over atFacebookheadquarters.In effect, these new features build a closed-off social network for Apple, letting you share Apple News stories, Apple Music tracks and even hold FaceTime video chats with non-iPhone users.Zuckerberg has already said he considers Apple a major competitor because of iMessage. Now Apple is building out even more social features natively into iOS. And, of course, Apple will be able to promote the privacy of these social features, unlike Facebook.--Steve KovachApple announces iOS 15, newest version of iPhone’s softwareApple’s senior vice president in charge of software, Craig Federighi, announced iOS 15, the latest version of the iPhone operating system. This software typically releases for most users alongside new iPhones in the fall, but developers and early adopters can start using it earlier, typically during the summer.iOS 15 includes:FaceTime improvements, including 3D audio, portrait mode to blur backgrounds, and a grid view to speak to multiple people at the same time. Apple will also allow users to send links to schedule individual FaceTime calls, like Zoom links. Users can also share their screens or music, through a new software feature called ShareTime.FaceTime calls are also now supported on Windows and Android through a browser, the first time that FaceTime has been supported across platforms.An iMessage redesign, which includes features that turns messaged photos into galleries.A new feature called “shared with you” saves links that people sent you and puts them in one place so users can address them later. It works with Apple Music, Safari, Apple Podcasts, Apple TV and Apple News. Users can pin important messages featuring content.Redesigned notifications, including a feature that collects users notifications into a custom summary of all the notifications the user may have missed. The notifications are ordered by priority, and notifications by people will not be included so they won’t be missed.Users who have turned on “do not disturb” or a new “focus” mode will have their status shared with other users, like an away message.Focus mode can hide any apps that you don’t want to distract you.Camera improvements, including a feature called Live Text that can automatically identify and scan text in photographs.Apple’s machine learning will also be able to identify elements in photos, such as location or whether there’s a pet in the scene. Apple’s system search, Spotlight, will search these elements.A feature called Memories will use machine learning to combine photos into relevant galleries or animations and sometimes add music from Apple Music.Apple is also updating expanding the Wallet app functionality to include corporate badges as well as keys to get into hotels and houses with smart homes.Apple is also going to support scanning U.S. IDs, such as drivers licenses, into their wallet. Apple says it is only supported in some states for now, and the TSA will accept the credential.Apple CEO Tim Cook kicks off WWDCAfter a short comedy video focusing on software developers, Apple CEO Tim Cook has kicked off the show from the company’s headquarters in Cupertino, California. He came out on stage to a virtual crowd of avatars.— Kif LeswingFacebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg needles Apple ahead of its conferenceFacebook CEOMark Zuckerberg needled Applehours before its WWDC conference was scheduled to kick off.In a short poston his Facebook page, Zuckerberg announced a new Facebook feature enabling users to tip social media personalities. He said Facebook isn’t charging until at least 2023, and when it does, it will take less than the 30% fee Apple charges iPhone apps using in-app purchases.“To help more creators make a living on our platforms, we’re going to keep paid online events, fan subscriptions, badges, and our upcoming independent news products free for creators until 2023. And when we do introduce a revenue share, it will be less than the 30% that Apple and others take,” Zuckerberg wrote.Apple’s developer conference this year takes place at an uncertain time in Apple developer relations. Apple needs computer software companies to make apps for its platforms, which in turn makes its products more attractive to users.WWDC is aimed at getting those software makers excited about Apple. But Epic Games, Facebook and other firms have complained that Apple’s App Store rules are too stringent and its 30% fee for digital purchases is too high.— Kif LeswingApple’s web store remains onlineApple has historically taken down its online store for a few hours during a big launch, signaling exciting new products being added and building hype. But on Monday, the store was still up 15 minutes before WWDC was scheduled to kick off, suggesting no new major products.— Kif LeswingApple should bring Mac features to iPads todayI hope to see Apple bring some of the software features from MacBooks to iPads today.Thelatest MacsandiPad Pros run on the same M1 processor, so there’s enough power on the high-end iPads for running apps in multiple windows, like you would on a traditional computer, and support for using an external display for any app.A report fromBloombergover the weekend suggested we’ll at least see improvements to iPad multitasking, so it seems like my wish is at least plausible.Apple has so far said it sees iPads and Macs as totally different devices with different use cases, so I don’t expect a complete merge of the operating systems.-- Todd HaseltonThe Apple-developer love fest is overIn normal times, WWDC is a love fest between Apple and the developers who keep itsmassively profitable App Store chugging along.But this year is going to be different. The disputes over App Store fees between Apple and big-name developers likeSpotifyhave spilled into the public view in recent months. That’s especially apparent with thelegal battle between Apple and Epic Games. The two companies went through a three-week trial last month, and the judge’s decision in the case could alter the power dynamics between Apple and app developers.In the past, developers remained quiet about their complaints with Apple’s App Store rules, lest they draw the ire of Tim Cook and company and risk their access to the App Store. But thanks to groups like theCoalition for App Fairnessand the overall anti-Big Tech sentiment in Western governments, developers now feel emboldened to make their complaints known.I’m most interested to see how Apple uses this year’s WWDC to highlight the benefits it can offer developers while still protecting one of its massive profit centers, the App Store.-- Steve Kovach","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":110,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}