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123zj
12-18 20:10
牛牛牛牛
123zj
12-13
祝大家新的一年,好运连连,财富增加。
123zj
12-12
大家一起加油了,马上过年了
123zj
11-29
看来广汽的整车质量还可以信任。
多家车企要求供应商降价 特斯拉发声:与供应商伙伴同生共赢
123zj
11-08
抑制及时欲望,延迟消费,做好心理账户管控。
123zj
09-13
@Bill_Z
@小虎活动:【中秋节特别活动】交换月亮,用镜头记录团圆时刻
123zj
09-13
这篇文章不错,转发给大家看看
@小虎活动:【中秋节特别活动】交换月亮,用镜头记录团圆时刻
123zj
08-05
$INTC 20240809 29.5 CALL$
123zj
08-03
市场和情绪反应多度,终将均值回归。适合做波段,目前不适合长期持有。全球经济的衰退,还没走出低谷,消费电子产品得不到进一步成长
123zj
06-19
老师说,我亏了一万多
@小虎活动:【老虎十周年】10年,你在老虎赚了多少钱?
123zj
05-10
平凡之路,行非凡之事
@小虎活动:【有奖活动】申请分走你耳机的另一半!推荐一首你最爱的音乐~
123zj
04-26
霍华德.马克思。阿尔弗德雷.阿德勒。
@小虎活动:【有奖活动】哪位投资大师的理念对你的投资决策影响最大?
123zj
02-02
$A50指数主连 2402(CNmain)$
一次性跌1000点,就好了
123zj
01-23
靠,明明是机构跑了
刚刚,外围传出重磅利好!反攻号角即将吹响?
123zj
01-14
祝大家周末愉快,恭喜发财。
123zj
01-13
祝大家周末愉快,开心快乐
123zj
01-13
必须是买房
@小虎活动:【有奖活动】买房 or 炒股,哪个让你赚更多?
123zj
01-12
老虎,今年股价大涨,一起吃肉
123zj
01-11
今天如何看,朋友们。加油
123zj
01-10
老虎加油,今年股价大涨
去老虎APP查看更多动态
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tg-height=\"325\"/></p><p>她还贴出了一张中<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/600617\">国新能源</a>汽车制造商向供应商付款时间变化示意图,有部分公司的付款时间不仅没有逐年缩短,反而明显拉长。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/66802383f2a2dcb6de7c53e47efe7eef\" tg-width=\"690\" tg-height=\"798\"/></p><p>来源:特斯拉公司副总裁陶琳微博</p><p>随后,陶琳又补充说,降本要靠技术革新和减少不必要支出,并重申保障供应商利益。</p><p>她写道,“该省省该花花。给供应商快速回款,并不意味着需要提高产品价格。因为,成本控制=技术革新提升效率+减少一切不必要的花费(比如<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/DLX\">豪华</a>接待中心、广告费、高管办公室……尤其是错误的商业/技术决策带来的损失)。保障供应商利益的同时,我们在研发和生产上持续投入,力求给消费者更好的价格和产品。”</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/93bd23eb5a53e1d95dca385388f1ea1e\" tg-width=\"632\" tg-height=\"223\"/></p><p>陶琳提到的付款周期对于供应商来说意义重大。拉长回款周期是目前不少车企对供应商惯用的变相降本手段。原本三四个月的付款周期,有的车企甚至延长至半年到一年,尤其是中小型供应商很容易面临资金链问题。</p><p>据统计,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/600030\">中信证券</a>汽车零部件A股上市公司总计204家,<strong>2020年年末应收账款余额1408.80亿元,到2023年增长至2318亿元,增幅64.57%,今年三季度进一步增长至2446.69亿元。</strong></p><p>当然,这些公司的收入也在增长,2020年收入总和为6694.4亿元,2023年增长至9434.06亿元,增幅40.9%。可见,汽车零部件行业的收入增幅要远低于应收账款增幅,即相当部分增加的收入实际是以账款的增加为代价的,体现在应收账款周转天数上,<strong>上述204家公司2020年算术平均数还不到100天,到今年三季度就已经拉长到107.76天。</strong></p><p>具体到企业身上,应收账款带来的压力更为显著。以<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">智能</a>座舱、智能驾驶和网联服务供应商<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/002920\">德赛西威</a>为例,2020年年末,其应收账款余额还不到20亿元,到2024年三季度就已经膨胀至86.35亿元,增长超过3倍,但同期公司营收只增长了1.8倍。</p><p>另以终止IPO的汽车供应商上海紫江新材料科技股份有限公司为例,在回复监管问询时,紫江新材表示,2019年、2020年、2021年和2022年上半年,公司应收账款账面价值分别为0.71亿元、1.09亿元、1.93亿元和3.16亿元,占总资产比例超过30%。各报告期末,比亚迪应收账款余额占比超过70%,比亚迪供应链采用“迪链”供应链票据,信用期为7个月,“该信用政策高于可比公司、高于公司其他客户,也高于比亚迪对其他供应商给予的信用期”。</p><p>整车企业这边,据第一财经报道,以“应付账款周转天数”为指标,整车企业之间差异巨大,具体如下表所示:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/31cca2c16d708b80c2df26a153f5ee03\" tg-width=\"600\" tg-height=\"467\"/></p><p>值得注意的是,应付账款周转天数并不完全等同于车企给供应商的付款周期。根据释义,应付账款周转天数又称平均付现期,是衡量公司需要多长时间付清供应商欠款的一个指标。Wind提供的应付账款周转天数是根据应付账款周转率计算得出,而应付账款周转率=(2*营业成本)÷(期初应付账款+期末应付账款)。</p><p><strong>又一主机厂希望供应商降价?</strong></p><p>在汽车价格战等因素的推动之下,近日部分车企开始向上游供应商“砍价”,引发市场关注。</p><p>在比亚迪传出要某家供应商降价10%后,网络上传出另一家主机厂也向其供应商提出了相似的要求。</p><p>网络传出的一张邮件截图显示,上汽大通邀请供应商伙伴共同参与到成本控制的大项目中。在邮件中,上汽大通方面表示:“通过双方的紧密合作,我们可以共同开发出更具成本效益的解决方案,实现双赢的局面。进一步加强管理、提升质量、改进服务、提升效率、降低成本,提升复杂形势压力下的生存能力,目标(是)降本10%。”</p><p>值得一提的是,上汽大通在邮件中与供应商进行了降本方向的可行性探讨和建议。比如,生产工艺改进;鼓励供应商利用自身的专业优势与上汽大通协同设计,主动对零部件成本进行系统性优化,科学大胆提供VAVE(Value Analysis&Value Engineering,指价值分析和价值工程)提案;供应商能与上汽大通物流团队共同优化物流配送系统等。对于上述信息的真实性,截至记者发稿,上汽大通方面并未回应。</p><p>实际上,主机厂与供应商的年度议价是行业常规动作。“以前,(和客户的)年度价格谈判一般只需年初谈一次,过去这几年则变成了一年中间始终在进行价格谈判。双方要谈好几次才能达成一致,所以(主机厂)给的压力是非常大的。”一位汽车供应商的管理高层告诉《每日经济新闻》记者。</p><p>对于希望供应商降价的原因,网络流传的“2025年比亚迪乘用车降本要求”的邮件截图显示,2025年将是车市“决战”之年,淘汰赛将会加剧。面对竞争,比亚迪需要保持竞争力。</p><p>上汽大通方面表示,2024年初,比亚迪、特斯拉等品牌纷纷降价,拉开了新一轮价格战的序幕。随着新能源汽车和燃油车的份额和价格之争更加白热化,预计到2025年或2026年,汽车市场企业竞争格局将逐步明朗。当前汽车市场供大于求的问题突出,这与供给过剩、需求不足的矛盾密切相关。随着新车大量上市,市场的供需失衡状况预计在短期内难以得到根本改善,导致价格战难以平息。</p><p>“主机厂和供应商的年度议价等信息流出也说明行业的内卷没有停止,行业价格战不会停止。”一位汽车行业分析师认为,明年价格战已经在酝酿。</p><p></p></body></html>","source":"sina","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>多家车企要求供应商降价 特斯拉发声:与供应商伙伴同生共赢</title>\n<style 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href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300763\">锦浪科技</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300118\">东方日升</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300776\">帝尔激光</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300751\">迈为股份</a>等新能源权重股全线爆发。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/88f92c248b4845e8ecbe0ffd317760d8\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"479\"/></p><p> <strong>与此同时,港股市场亦集体大爆发。早上开盘,恒生指数高开0.52%,科技股领涨,恒生科技指数涨0.88%,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00700\">腾讯控股</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">阿里巴巴</a>涨近2%。但亦是十点过后,恒生指数展开大反攻,涨幅快速扩大至3%,恒生科技指数涨超5%。值得注意的是,北上资金突然一改常态,掉头做多,早上净买入超过20亿元。而A50期指亦是直线拉升。连人民币都被带动,快速升值。</strong></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ff4525c88c2653bf5987a7530df0a57c\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"366\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">那么,究竟有何利好刺激?彭博社今早传来的消息指出,中国考虑为稳定基金提供离岸资金,这些政策可能在近期出台,涉及金额可能比较大。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">最近两天,A股市场持续下行,沪深300指数本周跌至五年低点,中证1000昨天亦创出阶段新低。在这种背景之下,昨天召开的国务院常务会议指出,要进一步健全完善资本市场基础制度,更加注重投融资动态平衡,大力提升上市公司质量和投资价值,加大中长期资金入市力度,增强市场内在稳定性。要加强资本市场监管,对违法违规行为“零容忍”,打造规范透明的市场环境。要采取更加有力有效措施,着力稳市场、稳信心。要增强宏观政策取向一致性,加强政策工具创新和协调配合,巩固和增强经济回升向好态势,促进资本市场平稳健康发展。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">从估值来看,来自德邦证券的数据显示,截至2024年1月20日,A股总体PE(TTM)为15.51倍,2012年以来30%分位;创业板指PE(TTM)估值为25.28倍,2012年以来0%分位;从一致预期角度来看,全A总体PE(2023E)为14.66倍,总体PE(2024E)为12.39倍,分别为2012年以来28%、7%分位。目前A股估值水平处于历低位,港股的估值水平则更低,按理不至于跌成现在这样。</p><p><strong>市场能否企稳?</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>估值如此之低,为何没人敢买?</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/601059\">信达证券</a>表示,以此前的市场为例,2012年底,上证综指的PE(TTM)比2008年的低点更低,但由于制造业投资持续下行,稳增长力度相比2008年底更小,所以投资者迟迟不敢大幅买入。因为之前的历次牛市大多由经济大幅回升驱动,而2013年—2015年的牛市,几乎是不依赖投资回升的,在此期间制造业投资依然还在持续下行。所以面临2012年底或2014年中的估值底,如果单纯关注经济数据,是很难想到未来牛市高度的。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">每一次熊市,都会有很多宏大的担心,有些是错的,熊市会在错误逐渐证伪的情况下结束(比如2008年熊市)。有些宏大的担心是对的,但熊市依然会结束,因为股市估值会提前消化长期的担心,之后即使长期担心依然存在,股市可能会在完全不同的利多逻辑演绎下结束熊市。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/000776\">广发证券</a>对债务周期背景下的股市进行了研究。他们指出,债务周期下,海外股市大级别底部的形成有赖于企业/居民杠杆率的趋势回落。①泰国1994年—2002年:1997年经济泡沫达到高峰,股市直至2002年三季度在去杠杆较为充分后迎来大级别反转,2004年前后GDP增速才回到危机前峰值。②美国2007年-2009年金融危机:2007年四季度—2008年三季度居民/企业杠杆率陆续见顶回落,2009年一季度股市见底并开启大级别反转。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">此外,债务风险的消化程度决定了市场底部坚实与否,大级别反转需要债务风险的显著出清:①日本二十世纪90年代前中期:前期债务风险出清缓慢,企业杠杆率直至1993年四季度才开始见顶回落,1990.9、1992.7、1995.6的股市底部都先后被突破;②德国1999年—2009年:2000年—2003年第一阶段去杠杆并不充分,2008年—2009年第二阶段债务风险显著消化,2009年一季度德国股市迎来大级别拐点。</p><p style=\"text-align: right;\"><br/></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta 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tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"479\"/></p><p> <strong>与此同时,港股市场亦集体大爆发。早上开盘,恒生指数高开0.52%,科技股领涨,恒生科技指数涨0.88%,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00700\">腾讯控股</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">阿里巴巴</a>涨近2%。但亦是十点过后,恒生指数展开大反攻,涨幅快速扩大至3%,恒生科技指数涨超5%。值得注意的是,北上资金突然一改常态,掉头做多,早上净买入超过20亿元。而A50期指亦是直线拉升。连人民币都被带动,快速升值。</strong></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ff4525c88c2653bf5987a7530df0a57c\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"366\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">那么,究竟有何利好刺激?彭博社今早传来的消息指出,中国考虑为稳定基金提供离岸资金,这些政策可能在近期出台,涉及金额可能比较大。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">最近两天,A股市场持续下行,沪深300指数本周跌至五年低点,中证1000昨天亦创出阶段新低。在这种背景之下,昨天召开的国务院常务会议指出,要进一步健全完善资本市场基础制度,更加注重投融资动态平衡,大力提升上市公司质量和投资价值,加大中长期资金入市力度,增强市场内在稳定性。要加强资本市场监管,对违法违规行为“零容忍”,打造规范透明的市场环境。要采取更加有力有效措施,着力稳市场、稳信心。要增强宏观政策取向一致性,加强政策工具创新和协调配合,巩固和增强经济回升向好态势,促进资本市场平稳健康发展。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">从估值来看,来自德邦证券的数据显示,截至2024年1月20日,A股总体PE(TTM)为15.51倍,2012年以来30%分位;创业板指PE(TTM)估值为25.28倍,2012年以来0%分位;从一致预期角度来看,全A总体PE(2023E)为14.66倍,总体PE(2024E)为12.39倍,分别为2012年以来28%、7%分位。目前A股估值水平处于历低位,港股的估值水平则更低,按理不至于跌成现在这样。</p><p><strong>市场能否企稳?</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>估值如此之低,为何没人敢买?</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/601059\">信达证券</a>表示,以此前的市场为例,2012年底,上证综指的PE(TTM)比2008年的低点更低,但由于制造业投资持续下行,稳增长力度相比2008年底更小,所以投资者迟迟不敢大幅买入。因为之前的历次牛市大多由经济大幅回升驱动,而2013年—2015年的牛市,几乎是不依赖投资回升的,在此期间制造业投资依然还在持续下行。所以面临2012年底或2014年中的估值底,如果单纯关注经济数据,是很难想到未来牛市高度的。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">每一次熊市,都会有很多宏大的担心,有些是错的,熊市会在错误逐渐证伪的情况下结束(比如2008年熊市)。有些宏大的担心是对的,但熊市依然会结束,因为股市估值会提前消化长期的担心,之后即使长期担心依然存在,股市可能会在完全不同的利多逻辑演绎下结束熊市。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a 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