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2021-01-28

$途牛(TOUR)$大家一起逼空

2020-11-30

$跟谁学(GSX)$骗子公司

2020-11-18

$跟谁学(GSX)$河南骗子

2020-10-22

$跟谁学(GSX)$比瑞幸还假

2020-09-03

$跟谁学(GSX)$we Chinese don't know this company and its platform

2020-07-24

larry, 拼命的拉你家股票吧，最终你会拉稀而亡

2020-07-09

一个河南骗子的空壳公司市值已经超过绿地集团，呵呵

2020-06-16

$跟谁学(GSX)$**公司，你再怎么拉你也是个骗子

2020-06-10

跟谁学就是一个骗子公司我个人看来

跟谁学这口语课程的广告，尴尬溢出了屏幕

2020-06-09

$跟谁学(GSX)$请问各位，买入的 40美元put ,到时候跌到25元比如我要行权怎么操作呢？我是新手，请各位老师指教

2020-06-08

$跟谁学(GSX)$一只造假股票还不死

2020-06-07

装模装样

遭遇9次做空之后跟谁学CEO陈向东：不诚信的话早就被打倒了

2020-06-07

如果跟谁学不是做假的，我吃大便

跟谁学遭8次做空,被质疑伪造学生数据及非法营销

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来源：未眼观察6月3日，在线教育公司跟谁学（NYSE：GSX）对美国做空机构灰熊的第二份做空报告作出回应。跟谁学表示：“该报告充斥着大量编造的数据和陈述。对于这种通过P图等方式来诋毁公司的行为，我们表示震惊。当打假者变成造假者，做空便从美国市场的一种良性机制，变成了某些人不当牟利的工具。这种充满恶意的行为，已经突破了商业伦理的底线。”跟谁学表示，针对做空机构铤而走险，公然伪造证据，将向公安机关经济犯罪侦查部门寻求帮助。灰熊在6月2日晚间发布的做空报告称，跟谁学虚增学生人数和营收约900%，跟谁学还在从事大规模的非法营销活动。灰熊称，根据跟谁学旗下高途课堂的API（应用程序接口），可以查看每个班级的实际学生人数和收入，基于此，灰熊认为依照实际人数所得出的收入和跟谁学在财报中公布的收入相距甚远。在回应中，跟谁学称，API接口无法获取全量数据。跟谁学解释称，高途课堂API接口抓取的课程仅为该时点可售课程，在该时点春季的主要课程均已下架，可售课程为少量春（下）课程及其他班容较小课程，做空报告仅抓取73门付费课程，远低于高途课堂在第二季度实际提供的课程数量；其次，该API接口返回的反爬虫程序加密后的学生人数信息，并非实际数据。因此，报告对公司第二季度高途课堂的收入预测毫无依据。公开资料显示，跟谁学由前新东方执行总裁陈向东于2014年6月创建。2015年3月30日，跟谁学宣布A轮融资5000万美元，2019年6月，跟谁学在美国纽交所挂牌上市。目前，跟谁学旗下目前有跟谁学、高途课堂、成蹊商学院、金囿学堂、微师、babyABC等品牌。4月3日，跟谁学公布2019年年报，2019年全年净收入21.149亿元人民币，同比（较上年同期）增长432.3%；净利润为2.266亿元人民币，同比增长1050.3%；总付费人次达到2743000，同比增长257.6%。5月6日，跟谁学发布了2020年第一季度未经审计财务报告。报告显示，截至3月31日，跟谁学实现净收入12.98亿元，较去年同期增长382%；非美国通用会计准则净利润1.91亿元，同比增长406%；正价课付费人次达到77.4万，同比增长307%。业绩增速“好到难以置信”，让跟谁学成为做空机构轮番狙击的对象。今年2月份，灰熊就曾做空跟谁学，称跟谁学在申请上市时大幅高估了其盈利能力。对此，跟谁学创始人、董事长兼CEO陈向东在一场媒体沟通会上表示，跟谁学所有的经营行为和业绩数据都以诚信为基础，从不弄虚作假，从不夸大和粉饰，经得起检验。4月开始，香橼（Citron 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