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2020-09-29

$理想汽车(LI)$作为一个在理想和蔚来盈利超过300%的老韭菜，我觉得我有资格聊两句理想，很多人谈理想上来就喷增程式blabla，在我看来，都没聊对地方，理想真正牛逼的地方是会算账，知道该怎么花钱，蔚来当初差点儿把自己花死，理想从第一款产品开始毛利就是正的，理想one目前销量也基本达到了es6的水平，就这一点就够了

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PJPJPJJJ
2020-09-30
PJPJPJJJ
看你说的东西，虽然你股票挣了点钱，但是你根本没有入门。蔚来确实花了很多的钱，但是这些钱垫定了龙头和高端的地位、这些钱投入了巨量的研发、这些钱获得了政府的信任与支持。理想确实没怎么花钱，就是有点容易断轴，其他还好。
- yhyh回复吾乃华尔街之韭:
  官方都公布过了，es6的平均售价也超40了
- yhyh回复起拍价:
  那个是除税的
- hypnus回复起拍价:
  我帮你算吧，2季度交付10331量，2季度营收37亿，单车收入35.8万对吧，增值税13%，35.8x1.13=40+，没毛病吧？
- 起拍价回复hypnus:
  你用财报数据算一下就知道了，就30多万。
- hypnus回复起拍价:
  蔚来客单均价40万+，理想32.8万
gucasxiaot
2020-09-30
gucasxiaot
钱花在刀刃上没错，但是国内汽车工业从油车挖的坑太大，蔚来虽然前期烧钱把自己烧死，但是把高端的品牌调性烧出来了，这就足够。理想精打细算，但是还是没走出品牌的坑，走捷径做的汉兰达的逆向研发，产品质量不能保证。不看好长期销量，前期蓄客用的差不多了。没有长期销量，一切都是空谈
- gucasxiaot回复yhyh:
  还是有差别的，合资车，由其是以大众为代表的合资厂，品牌深入人心，即便出了各种简配门，断轴门，在消耗品牌力，长期来看肯定是下坡，短期依靠巨大的品牌惯性还是卖的好。初创公司可不能按照这个套路，理想的车在使用体验上客观的说是不错的，但是看不见的地方，比如材料，工艺，研发投入这个是做不了假的，用不了多长时间就会全面爆发出来，到时候恐怕就是下一个奇瑞
- yhyh回复gucasxiaot:
  其实跟目前的合资车一个套路，所以跟合资车也就是半斤八两，但是他定位还是挺准的人，跟竞品比智能化方面肯定是优势巨大，当然他本来就不是蔚来和特斯拉的竞品，所以没必要对比
- gucasxiaot回复yhyh:
  李想本人是产品经理，了解中国人对车的喜好没错，他把钱用在用户看的见的地方，说的好听点叫精明，说的不好听点叫鸡贼，车不是手机，几个月一年一换，一旦出毛病，你再看车主对车的评价。断轴类似的产品质量缺陷恐怕只会越来越多
- yhyh:
  估计不会差的，你说他差那也比大部分国产强太多了，至少对比汉兰达优势明显，如果我想30万买辆7座suv，理想one肯定是首选了，大部分人只关心能感知的部分，所以李想绝对是聪明的产品经理，知道目标客户最在意的是什么，不过有时候还是傻点好，至少要达到万亿这个级别靠省肯定是省不出来的
PJPJPJJJ
2020-09-30
PJPJPJJJ
没见过靠省钱，省出世界500强的企业。小娘们思维。
- BenZheng回复瓯东散人:
  理想能称的上豪华品牌？有一直断轴又死不承认的豪华？老
  板格局都不配。
- 瓯东散人:
  你还小孩子思维，我看你都没当过家做过主吧
SolitaryHunt
2020-09-30
SolitaryHunt
我觉得有些人没明白我说的“会算账”是啥意思，不是说这家公司会省钱就是会算账，可以这么理解，切分下来相同市场份额所投入的资金，在这方面理想比早期的蔚来起码高了2个level，当然蔚来现在也开始好好算账了，这是好事儿
爱是付出
2020-10-01
爱是付出
我买的理想，车绝对没话说，只要开过，还没听过说这车不好的。但在资本市场，目前蔚来明显是中概新能源龙头，成交和换手都不是理想能比的。开理想车，买蔚来股，我觉得不冲突，它们在不同的位置都体现最大的价值。
岚岚加油
2020-10-01
岚岚加油
你说那没用的，外国市场看不到那些啊，老外只看谁的销量多一点。关键是外国人怎么认为你怎么认为没有用？

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