$跟谁学(GSX)$_老虎社区_美港股上老虎

2020-05-19

$跟谁学(GSX)$

1.就算只质押了510万股，获得贷款5000万美金，然后贷款的目的竟然是高位买自己公司的股票，这样的CEO值得托付？他是做教育培训的，还是做对冲基金的？他还有百分之八十几的投票权。

2.按照质押时的股价40计算，抵押物减值一半的平仓线大概会设置在20，60%的话就在25，考验到了这个平仓线的话是不是另外的那些目前没有抵押，只是存放在那的ADRs就直接补充抵押物了？

所以这个回应其实只是坐实了空头的所有指控，你的确质押了3.8亿美元的股票，虽然你只获得了5000万没有的贷款，这并不冲突！

免责声明：上述内容仅代表发帖人个人观点，不构成本平台的任何投资建议。

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点点球球
2020-05-19
点点球球
510万股，贷款5000万，底价是每股10元，算上银行的平仓线，按150%，股价只有跌到15才会有平仓的可能。
股价高了？和新东方在线比，高吗？质押买股票，是对公司的发展有信心。他要是不买，我为什么要现价买？
无论说什么，空头总是空头，多头总是多头，最终盈利上看吧。现在的讨论，都是先预设立场，没什么好说的。
- z7:
  你怕是对股票质押不了解，这种一天可能20%的股票平仓线200%一点都不过分，不然也不会只贷款5000万美金，给出910万的adrs
sunwukon0992
2020-05-19
sunwukon0992
510万股就按最高价也就2亿，再说股票抵押贷款可以全款贷款吗？如果是为了跑路在46的高位减持百分之五是不是比5000万多很多目前高管一股都没减持。质押股票的公司大把有什么奇怪，做空机构要不要融资，要不要贷款？
- z7回复sunwukon0992:
  投资机构套现和ceo套现是不同的流程，ceo/实控人减持要提前公布减持计划，不能偷偷摸摸来，你想想你公布了，价格能稳定的站在那？
- 交易思考回复sunwukon0992:
  你是真不懂还是故意乱说？
- sunwukon0992回复z7:
  第一次解冻期到了，a轮的投资机构坚持套现回本，和个别小股东全部套现，后面增发1400万股，股价没有跌还大涨了，第一次炒股我当时就是信群里的评论说股票要大跌赶快跑，卖了，后面20多才买回来。2月份股价46了，当时没有机构做空势头正好，为什么不能套现。马云，马化腾还有比尔盖茨等很多公司老板年年减持，现在他们公司股票也没有崩盘。
- z7:
  减持要提前公告，你试试让他减持，没等开始减价格就崩了。
frido
2020-05-19
frido
在空头围剿的情况下，借钱护盘很正常，如果这公司是你的，你会不在意股价吗？
- 交易思考:
  你是真不懂还是故意乱说？
- 大韭菜2018:
  护盘一般是下跌太多，大股东觉得股价不符合实际。而目前的股价就算不造假都已经高估了，完全没有抵押股票护盘的必要
- z7:
  股价过去一年涨了四倍，这种情况我给他空，你还贷款去维护？假如再涨四倍是不是又得贷款两亿美金去维护股价呢？股价到底是别人买涨的，还是你自己倒手涨的？

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