banearth
2019-10-02
$蔚来(NIO)$ 蔚来的产品的方向为什么那么不实用,非要追求过大的空间,结果呢
风阻系数过大,高速都不敢稍微开快点,不然续航锐减。
同样双电机,凭啥特斯拉一个轿车能把前仓做出储物空间,蔚来一个suv前仓都能给堆满
难道是蔚来根本没能力做小电机吗?suv尚且都堆满,怕是塞不进轿车里面了
如果我说错了,欢迎指正
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饿虎咆哮啊呜
2019-10-02
饿虎咆哮啊呜
窃以为:1. 前排空间做女王座椅腿部脚蹬了,2. 双叉臂的悬架运动性非常好,但布局非常占前发动机舱空间(保时捷911有地方做前行李舱,也是因为前桥采用麦迪逊悬架,而不是双叉臂),并不是因为蔚来的电机大,特斯拉的小。蔚来ES8和6都没有问题,问题是正向研发太费钱、市场营销也是烧钱,网络发展也是烧钱。这次股票下跌主要是没讲清楚亏损的主要原因,也就是钱怎么花了,而不是你亏损了资本市场就抛弃你了,
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饿虎咆哮啊呜
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是的,你的分析很有道理
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banearth
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那就是ES8的前期订单超预期,对于2019年的形式过于乐观、自家产品过于自信,推出定位稍低一点的ES6。2019年形势好的话,各自都有细分市场,形势差的话,本来买ES8的都退而求其次了
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饿虎咆哮啊呜
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市场初期,资本都等着看你能力的时候,你出两款定位接近的产品,这怕是真的脑子不清醒
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饿虎咆哮啊呜
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别这么类比,奥迪能盈利,玩得起,蔚来能比吗?
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banearth
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不仅仅是蔚来,奥迪A6与自家A8也有很多市场重合
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铁甲钢拳
2019-10-02
铁甲钢拳
蔚来的问题是木秀于林,而不是产品本身
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饭特稀_2707
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好嘛……全铝就“全铝”了,地球上没有全铝车……因为铝太软了,关键受力部件必须是铁[吃瓜]
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Amigo_Amiga
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别逗机灵,全铝车身你准备拿什么锈
Amigo_Amiga
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不会吧?是生锈的锈吧?
慈善赌神55
2019-10-02
慈善赌神55
嗯,没错,如果真那么好为什么不做一款对标特斯拉的轿车,只要价格相对低点,竞争过得特斯拉,就少一些人老是拿这个说事了
饿虎咆哮啊呜
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如果上海市把项目留给蔚来,而不是给特斯拉建厂、给贷款,情况肯定不一样。
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