三倍杠杆玩期权
2019-06-07
$特斯拉(TSLA)$ $蔚来(NIO)$ 特斯拉这个季度北美就能交付3万部,蔚来顶天4000部拿头去比吗?
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思念悠悠在远方
2019-06-07
思念悠悠在远方
没有可比性,特拉斯亏了17年,蔚来初创才几年?
思念悠悠在远方
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NoGo寻常路
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你说的或许是对的,步子大了容易扯到蛋
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思念悠悠在远方
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兄弟所有的布局都是以产品品质为基础,没有有效的品质,所谓的布局不过就是画大饼而已!随着竞争对手的日益增长,蔚来的市场就萎缩的越快,销量提不上去,现金流就越发困难,没有更多资金再投入到研发,服务也会跟不上,进而进入恶性循环!后期融资就更加艰难,等待蔚来的结局和乐视一样
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思念悠悠在远方
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如果蔚来的车的品质的确足够和特斯拉相比较,那涨到200不难、如果还是一贯中国品牌汽车的垃圾品质的话那看多的人都是傻子。任何产品都是口碑决定未来
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狐狸爸爸
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关于蔚来,我看好的是它的布局。
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思念悠悠在远方
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特斯拉可能跌到10块,蔚来也可能到100000000,不过特斯拉以美元计,蔚来以冥币计[龇牙]
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B2cking
2019-06-07
B2cking
销量差异即使有七倍,可你没看到估值已经差了十倍吗?
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B2cking
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但是弱智的天朝早就同意特斯拉在上海的超级工厂了,下半年就投产了
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B2cking
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举例三一重工,大家国内觉得牛,国际上一比就很垃圾,这就是保护的结果,因为这样没有了竞争就没有创新的动力。汽车、手机进入中国,你会发现我们反而变强了。但是有一点还不能做好,急功近利,不愿意投入大量时间和精力去研究医药啊、操作系统、芯片半导体这种长周期回报的。国家一味保护才是最可怕的
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bush_bird
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中国市场最大,我觉得天朝如果不是弱智的话,不应该支持给特斯拉在中国建厂。特斯拉和波音对美国军事科技贡献太大,支持特斯拉就等于支持美国军工。
bush_bird
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关键蔚来的市场只在中国,马上被特斯拉挤压,特斯拉的市场是全球。就像奈飞vs爱奇艺一种感觉
石头草
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销量只有7倍吗?不是15倍?
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Harry007
2019-06-07
Harry007
特斯拉发展多少年了,麻烦不要只比较结果,特斯拉上市第一年比较,交付还没未来多呢
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石头草
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你的意思是10年到13年之间让他白发展了?10年上市,近三年一共销售了2250辆. 并且09年就推出Model S,13年才量产. 好好对比对比 好吧
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石头草
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"从2008年至2012年,公司在31个国家销售超过2250辆Roadsters。其後推出公司在2009年3月26日为全电动豪华车Tesla Model S揭幕,预期基础价格为税前57400美元,引发全世界电动车热潮。2010年起接手新聯合汽車製造公司的舊廠區,成為北美生產中心。”
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purepure
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2013Q3是特斯拉第一款常规车型上市的第三个季度,对应当前的蔚来
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Harry007
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2013年Q1 Model S刚刚上市,2010年的时候特斯拉只有一款总产量才1000的Roadster,这车是什么意义很清楚的事。
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石头草
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能看懂么 你
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狐狸爸爸
2019-06-07
狐狸爸爸
不许黑蔚来!韭菜不答应[生气]
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狐狸爸爸
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骂人的基本都是被套很深的,我之前也劝过一样被骂!
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NoGo寻常路
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看多这货是毫无逻辑的事!我两个月前5块多劝跑,结果被SB们满嘴喷粪,现在腰斩了[捂脸]
NoGo寻常路
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看多这个的基本都是中毒太深的,就算亏完了也觉得自己的判断没有错。
巍峨的山峰
2019-06-07
巍峨的山峰
这俩公司没有可比性
往事如风6
2019-06-07
往事如风6
特拉斯只有利好的时候才会大跌,静观其变[龇牙]
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