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Big Boeing Customer Says It Is Walking Away From New MAX Order
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Analysts and executives were watching that order as another bellwether for how quickly Boeing can recover its order backlog in the wake of the model’s crisis.</p>\n<p>Ryanair said Monday that those talks were now over.</p>\n<p>“Last week it became clear that the pricing gap between the partners could not be closed and accordingly, both sides have agreed to waste no more time on these negotiations,” the airline said.</p>\n<p>Boeing and Airbus are racing to sign up customers as air travel starts to return after falling sharply during the pandemic. Ryanair has forecast a strong recovery in its major market, European intracontinental flying.</p>\n<p>The airline said that without the new MAX 10 it still has enough aircraft on its order book to grow its fleet to more than 600 and cover its expansion plans through 2025.</p>\n<p>Such a public end to talks isn’t necessarily a death knell for an eventual deal. It is not unusual for airline customers to publicly cajole both Boeing and Airbus on things like delivery delays, manufacturing quality and pricing.</p>\n<p>Ryanair has a reputation for swooping in when the aviation sector is in a downturn to scoop up heavily discounted planes. Ryanair Chief Executive Michael O’Leary has maintained that he would only proceed with another deal if the airline could reach a suitable agreement on price with the manufacturer.</p>\n<p>The MAX 10 was launched by Boeing in 2017 with a longer cabin and optional extra fuel tanks to rival Airbus SE’s A321neo, which has so far dominated the market for bigger narrow-bodies. The aircraft flew its first test flight in June and is set to enter into service from 2023, delayed by the MAX grounding.</p>\n<p>“We are disappointed we couldn’t reach agreement,” Mr. O’Leary said. “We do not share Boeing’s optimistic pricing outlook.”</p>\n<p>A Boeing spokeswoman said Ryanair is a longstanding partner. “We value their business and are committed to supporting them,” she said. “At the same time, we continue to be disciplined and make decisions that make sense for our customers and our company.”</p>\n<p>The U.S. plane maker had seen a flurry of orders since the U.S. and Europe lifted their grounding orders on the 737 MAX. Analysts attribute that in part to a backlog of built aircraft that previous owners had abandoned.</p>\n<p>Boeing has booked 630 gross aircraft orders through July 31, according to the latest available data. That includes a large, 200-aircraft deal withUnited Airlines HoldingsInc., including for 150 of the MAX 10 model. Airbus meanwhile, excluding recent deals withDelta <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AIRI\">Air</a> Linesand Jet2, has had gross orders for 167 aircraft since the start of the year.</p>\n<p>Despite that, Airbus’s market share in the battle between the A320neo and the MAX has exceeded 60%, which analysts and the industry see as a critical threshold lowering production costs and reducing prices for customers.</p>\n<p>The collapse in talks with Ryanair comes as Boeing continues to battle production issues with its bigger 787 Dreamliner, which has led the company to halt almost all deliveries of the wide-body since October last year. The Wall Street Journal reported that the delivery pause is likely to extenduntil at least late October, passing the <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a>-year deadline that allows customers to more easily exit their purchase agreements for the plane.</p>\n<p>About 100 completed 787s were awaiting delivery at the end of June, according to Boeing, representing more than $25 billion in inventory. 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The 737 MAX competes with Airbus’s A320 in that market, and Airbus capitalized on the MAX’s nearly two-year grounding toboost its market share.\nRyanair, a Dublin-based discount airline that is Europe’s largest carrier by passengers, has been a big buyer of the 737 MAX, buying 75 of the aircraft last year. That order was seen as a vote of confidence in the future of the jet, despite the grounding.\nMore recently, Ryanair has been in talks with Boeing over the past 10 months for a fresh order of 737 MAX 10s, Boeing’s newest and biggest variant of the single-aisle workhorse. Analysts and executives were watching that order as another bellwether for how quickly Boeing can recover its order backlog in the wake of the model’s crisis.\nRyanair said Monday that those talks were now over.\n“Last week it became clear that the pricing gap between the partners could not be closed and accordingly, both sides have agreed to waste no more time on these negotiations,” the airline said.\nBoeing and Airbus are racing to sign up customers as air travel starts to return after falling sharply during the pandemic. Ryanair has forecast a strong recovery in its major market, European intracontinental flying.\nThe airline said that without the new MAX 10 it still has enough aircraft on its order book to grow its fleet to more than 600 and cover its expansion plans through 2025.\nSuch a public end to talks isn’t necessarily a death knell for an eventual deal. It is not unusual for airline customers to publicly cajole both Boeing and Airbus on things like delivery delays, manufacturing quality and pricing.\nRyanair has a reputation for swooping in when the aviation sector is in a downturn to scoop up heavily discounted planes. Ryanair Chief Executive Michael O’Leary has maintained that he would only proceed with another deal if the airline could reach a suitable agreement on price with the manufacturer.\nThe MAX 10 was launched by Boeing in 2017 with a longer cabin and optional extra fuel tanks to rival Airbus SE’s A321neo, which has so far dominated the market for bigger narrow-bodies. The aircraft flew its first test flight in June and is set to enter into service from 2023, delayed by the MAX grounding.\n“We are disappointed we couldn’t reach agreement,” Mr. O’Leary said. “We do not share Boeing’s optimistic pricing outlook.”\nA Boeing spokeswoman said Ryanair is a longstanding partner. “We value their business and are committed to supporting them,” she said. “At the same time, we continue to be disciplined and make decisions that make sense for our customers and our company.”\nThe U.S. plane maker had seen a flurry of orders since the U.S. and Europe lifted their grounding orders on the 737 MAX. Analysts attribute that in part to a backlog of built aircraft that previous owners had abandoned.\nBoeing has booked 630 gross aircraft orders through July 31, according to the latest available data. That includes a large, 200-aircraft deal withUnited Airlines HoldingsInc., including for 150 of the MAX 10 model. Airbus meanwhile, excluding recent deals withDelta Air Linesand Jet2, has had gross orders for 167 aircraft since the start of the year.\nDespite that, Airbus’s market share in the battle between the A320neo and the MAX has exceeded 60%, which analysts and the industry see as a critical threshold lowering production costs and reducing prices for customers.\nThe collapse in talks with Ryanair comes as Boeing continues to battle production issues with its bigger 787 Dreamliner, which has led the company to halt almost all deliveries of the wide-body since October last year. The Wall Street Journal reported that the delivery pause is likely to extenduntil at least late October, passing the one-year deadline that allows customers to more easily exit their purchase agreements for the plane.\nAbout 100 completed 787s were awaiting delivery at the end of June, according to Boeing, representing more than $25 billion in inventory. 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