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:您好!如果我想Short Put1手老虎证券,该如何选择行权价格呢?请教一下!
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稳定为王:PDD开仓就亏损出局,聊聊Shortput背后的资金管理
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我想在此区域进行操作。请问该怎么用期权CALL、Put操盘
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照行情分析,该股份应在1.5-2.5区域上落
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