笑瞰
2021-08-17
我一直相信新能源是全人类唯一的未来，化石燃料总有消耗完的一天，目前新能车已经发展到爆发的前夜，再过十年，甚至十五年，将会是完全不一样的光景。任何事物的发展总要经历曲折的过程，不可能一帆风顺，不能因为曲折就否定光辉的未来。曲折存在的意义是让技术更加成熟，让企业变得更好。把蔚来和特斯拉看成2007年的Apple, 你的格局一下子就豁然开朗了。
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蔚来、小鹏、特斯拉都出事了！你还信自动驾驶吗？
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小Q椰子酱
2021-08-17
小Q椰子酱
我上小学的时候课本上就说石油还有多少年就开采完了，现在还是这么写的。有些国家还越开采越多[捂脸]
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啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦
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食肉者鄙，未能远谋。
这你都不知道?义务教育的漏网之鱼呀！
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国家站位本来就比我们老百姓高，考虑的是祖祖辈辈的事
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把时间再拉长，我们这一辈已经看不到了，华尔街也看不到了…
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把时间线拉长来看，就会明白国家说的没错
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2021-08-18
啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦
把我和雷军看成2007年的乔布斯，你的格局一下子就豁然开朗了
啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦
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就这点格局?
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