未来前途
2017-07-20
$京东(JD)$亏损5亿多美元,是中国上榜企业中亏损最多的,但是股价还在上涨,真的想不明白。如果选择价值投资,也应该投资阿里巴巴和腾讯。
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每一个日夜
2017-07-20
每一个日夜
被谁忽悠了你
WJH稳
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看了你们说了一堆,我只说,呵呵,说再多没用股票不会因你两涨跌,哈哈。
skywalker15
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fang677
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呵呵,你可以这么理解,但快递费用没有增加,快递行业利润没有增加。而且菜鸟并无法把快递行业从劳动密集型改造成技术密集型行业,快递行业的人工成本没法靠菜鸟降下来,但微薄的利润却要被菜鸟分掉一大部分。也没有证据显示菜鸟显著提升快递行业的投运量,三通一达的投运量主要来自天猫淘宝,不是来自菜鸟。所以不存在薄利多销一说。菜鸟方便了消费者,肥了阿里,瘦了快递,但三通一达不敢不从,仅此而已。
fang677
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skywalker15
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菜鸟是一个提升物流的效率的平台,快递员能更快更省时更方便,就像薄利多销一样,买家卖家物流公司都是受益者
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未来前途
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那是国家的摇钱树,阿里巴巴毕竟是中国企业,还不敢动这个脑筋。阿里巴巴目前增长就靠阿里云推动,至于刚刚起步的人工智能能不能弯道超车带来新的盈利增长点,说不准。所以我认为阿里巴巴就算有增长,增长率也比不上成长型企业,比如京东,他现在市场占有率才22%,未来中国消费升级,数字肯定不止这么点。
skywalker15
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未来前途
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菜鸟收割的是快递行业的利润没错,但问题是快递行业没利润给他收割了怎么办?而且阿里巴巴目前主业仍是电商,而快递是在阿里巴巴电商购物体验的重要一环,试想一个辛苦钱被菜鸟赚走一大半的快递员会给用户多少购物体验?除了阿里云是真牛逼,无人超市盈利个人认为还有待观察,因为它能节省的人力成本有限,更像是一个噱头。而阿里巴巴对其他消费场景的染指更多是技术提供商,能攫取的利润有限。至于医疗房地产你就别想了,
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卜哥梦想家
2017-07-20
卜哥梦想家
亚马逊还一直亏损呢之前,你是不是想不明为什么人家能上1000?
卜哥梦想家
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未来前途
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什么叫价值投资?价值投资就是必须现在盈利?价值投资都看的是未来企业带来利润的能力,电商前期没有不亏钱的,没有布局哪来的盈利。一口气吃个胖子你可以去买毛票 一天翻10倍价值体现杠杠的
未来前途
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亚马逊在亏损时股价只有两三百,亚马逊实现盈利以及股价上1000不是因为电商和物流,而是全球第一的亚马逊云计算(AWS),而且还是对2020年以后的期望。
乔治华盛顿
2017-07-21
乔治华盛顿
反正我是不喜欢阿里巴巴,它涨得在离谱也不会去买,马云在我的眼中就是一搞传销的。只不过是一个成功的传销的而已。而且阿里巴巴这种公司老板扣爱造假爱国意识不足,与腾讯比一个天上一个地上
乔治华盛顿
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fang677
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就是哗众取宠,凡是在淘宝平台销售货物的在他眼里就是他提供了一个就业机会。多可笑呀!反观马化腾几乎就没这样哗众取宠过,高调的时候也是做慈善或者奖励员工。马云敢拿100多亿出来搞公益吗,马云逢年过节敢给员工包几万的红包吗?不敢吧,哪怕阿里巴巴上市的时候他也没有善待过自己的手下,因为他的钱是靠鬼子挣来的
乔治华盛顿
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fang677
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的,淘宝购物,特别是衣服。有多少人因为买了不合适或者有色差因为价格低廉而扔掉的。有多少实体店因为淘宝关门的。淘宝的霸权主义也是让人敢怒不敢言。伤害的只是小个体户。为什么淘宝要求商家不能同时在淘宝天猫,京东,唯品会同时上架销售。这算不算违反反垄断法。它就是靠它自己是网购一哥来往死里能同行。最让我恶心的是马云居然大言不惭的说它为美国带来200万个就业机会。特朗普都不敢说这种话。看懂报道以后才知道这种人
乔治华盛顿
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fang677
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是笑话吗,上次财报出来了被指出造假被做空难道不是事实。还有自己去看看马云的演讲视屏,跟传销的对比一下,相似度没有80%也得60%。最重要的是阿里巴巴是鬼子支持才上市的,至于你说的腾讯游戏害人,害得都是那种本身就是问题青年的人。这种人完全就是自作自受,最恶心的就是自愿花钱玩游戏回头还去指责别人。腾讯的微信QQ 给大家带来的方便确实毋庸置疑,还有难道淘宝购物中毒的就少,多少家庭因为女方不能理智购物而闹
fang677
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腾讯不就是一个游戏公司吗?靠给大家喂农药之类的游戏遗害了那么多青少年而自己赚足了钱,盈利确实不错,游戏如鸦片一下让大家离不开,赚钱方面而言,巴巴可能不如腾讯,至于你对巴巴其他的指责,都是笑话而已
九格
2017-07-21
九格
长期不看好不妨碍中期上涨呀,怎么说人家也实现盈利了,市场抱有期待很正常嘛
毛毛怪
2017-07-20
毛毛怪
京东除了电商,拿的出手的确实没什么,买京东小心为上
伟大的复利增长
2017-07-22
伟大的复利增长
等你想明白了,你的钱早亏光啦!
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