Robon
2022-12-29
我怀疑这个人怎么拿的诺贝尔奖，是不是当时搞错了？他的意思车企都是狗屎没有价值，还是他的意思所有的股票都是狗屎？
诺奖得主：特斯拉股票就像比特币，全靠炒作和信仰支撑
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白左想搞垮马斯克
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应该是搞错了吧
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[微笑]
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