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2020-12-09

笑死我了，华尔街给了自动驾驶公司waymo 1700多亿的估值，大摩却对同样拥有自动驾驶技术的特斯拉900亿的估值？kidding me?

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冬冬_2021
2020-12-09
冬冬_2021
大摩是摩根斯丹利
- winter_lee:
  好吧~_~记错了
c823
2020-12-09
c823
这俩技术完全不是一个水平，简单点就是百度无人车对比小鹏
顺盈
2020-12-09
顺盈
因为摩根大通代表的客户没货

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