长期看多京东，值不值？

价格价值

2016-11-01

京东不值得长期看多，我的理由是这样的。

不是所有的商品都是自营配送，用户依赖被打折扣。
供应商与内部员工的“人性”利益剪不断，理还乱。
“优惠券”式促销吃力不讨好。
刷单情况存在且官方允许激励性好评。
无法控制第三方品质。
“乡村”计划没有形成规模效应，收入带动有限。
“自营正品”这里应该有问号。
满额包邮还没亚马逊会员来的情愿。

总之，让我全在京东买东西，我不干，阿里我依然会选。

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T7486957
2016-11-01
T7486957
4.刷单就不提了吧，阿里刷单更狠。中国的互联网企业不刷单反而不正常了
5.第三方品质问题确实无法控制，但是可以看出京东控制的明显比阿里更好，因为品质是京东的立足之本这一块不敢马虎
6.京东入村计划不好推啊！配送团队还无法覆盖这么全
7.这个应该没啥问题，京东既然能在电商这块通过品质杀出一条路来（经过的市场检验），说明正品问题还是不大
ps：京东的到家跟金融这两个好牌真是被他们自己打的稀巴烂，完全没把配送+金融本身发挥出来。之后怎么发展我也说不好了
- 价格价值:
  4.不刷单不正常，所以京东要学习这种不正常？5.这个品质，我觉得是搜标品，京东给出的结果比淘宝更一目了然，在标品上，我觉得天猫官方旗舰店买的和京东一样，价格可能还便宜；要是说非标品，我觉得还是不说了，都一样；6.在推，但是方式可能不妥，我接触的县级负责人，天天发一些京东无假货，刘强东语录等精神式的文章，这些东西我觉得都没有便宜1分钱来的实在，都有利益事情才好办；
T7486957
2016-11-01
T7486957
1.楼主的全局特色指的是什么？你是说第三方配送么？第三方配送其实是消耗掉京东自营消耗不了的流量，虽然这一块目前占比一般
2.第二条的结论不知道哪里来的，不过最近京东爆出的内部腐败现象还是挺严重的
3.“优惠券”在产品角度看来都是促销工具，从我自己使用京东的促销工具体验来看。京东的促销工具做的层级混乱，虚假促销，条件不透明
- 价格价值回复T7486957:
  我觉得你是在说“术”的东西，但我认为做什么是一个“道”的东西，这里面的成本控制、投入产出比就是“术”，优惠券、红包或者会员就是“道”。我没有做过商业产品，但“优惠券”是一个错误的方向，这个观点我保持不变。
- T7486957回复价格价值:
  12不继续评论了，但是第三点不知道你做过商业产品没有。。。。促销工具没有你想的那么简单，是要寻求投入与产出的。当然发红包是用户喜欢的，但是企业有成本控制。而产品则是在这有限的预算去设计组合促销工具以达到做到最大下单量的目的
- 价格价值:
  1.京东做不到全部商品实现仓储配送，做不到我就会在心里记下，不是所有商品都那么快。不快的话，我就可能会在阿里或其他电商上做个选择。你的意思是，来了那么多人，想买的东西没有，有必要丰富下品类。可以，这很阿里，但是它不能成为阿里；2.这个利益问题是“人性”，在腐败控制上，除了刘强东的“零容忍”口号，尚没看到其有什么有效控制办法；3.从产品和用户的角度看，现金红包，比优惠券要好的多，至少我这样认为。
风的使者
2016-11-01
风的使者
京东和天猫都会有一批粉丝的，楼主喜欢天猫，有的人喜欢京东，萝卜青菜各有所爱嘛
- 价格价值:
  都不粉
- T7486957:
  楼主有点主观
虎虎生威x
2016-11-01
虎虎生威x
总得来说，最近没涨。如果涨了什么都好说。人民币贬值，中概股好不到哪里去。贬多少，市值按理要跌多少。
- 价格价值回复九格:
  亚马逊当初的环境就不了解。。。
- 九格回复价格价值:
  我的意思是有阿里在，京东获取流量比亚马逊当初在美国要艰难。
- 价格价值回复九格:
  第一个，我是说成长，单纯的成长；第二个，亚马逊将盈利再投入，不断扩大，京东现在还做不到,至于靠流量吃饭基本废话,等于说汽车跑的长远和油多少有关一样，关键是流量获取，不是靠流量吃饭。
- 九格回复价格价值:
  如果是说亚马逊电商业务的成长，美国没有阿里啊，电商是靠流量吃饭的
- 九格回复价格价值:
  京东当然不会像亚马逊，亚马逊有云业务啊
厉害
2016-11-01
厉害
京东退货服务好体验过你就会上瘾各有各的好
- 价格价值:
  哈哈哈，你牛。
72fcdf9a
2016-11-01
72fcdf9a
京东跟本就没有护城河，跟亚马迅样，毛利低，都卖品牌商品，就像苹果手机，谁卖的便宜100人都会去别人那买了。沃尔玛店铺的位置就是护城河。京东跟本不具被。
- 重力加速度:
  同样的价格下你会在哪儿买？

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