炒股没有好下场
2018-11-17
$三倍做空天然气ETN(VelocityShares)(DGAZ)$ 能回到10就感激涕零了🙏
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三云师太
2018-11-17
三云师太
毕竟2014年涨到6块多过。
看中国强硬派发言，是不会买美国天然气的。
那么需求旺盛，天然气价格今年暴涨是必然。
如果g20峰会，和解，中国向美国够买天然气。美国也不会便宜卖出。
导致今年天然气的大涨。涨多少成为一个问题。
目前三个月之后的天然气合约并没有涨价。只是近一个月的涨了。估计就是知道g20前后，天然气都是必涨。
炒股没有好下场
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问题是俄罗斯天然气比美国便宜，价格能去高到6块吗？
执念
2018-11-18
执念
如果2.81是底部，回到2.8是12块左右，如果连续跌这价格肯定呢能到，就是盘整的问题，会有损耗。明年四月期货在2.8以下、回2.8是可能，就怕再创新高，按去年最高3.6的比例，今年有可能涨到5.5-6.1之间
AnchorYU
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炒股没有好下场
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按说大量进口，应该是在价格合适的时候进口，这么高价格买起来也不划算啊，所以美国应该降点吧
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AnchorYU
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我感觉中国会大量进口美国天然气的，这次都变成大涨的借口了
AnchorYU
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炒股没有好下场
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月底还有个g20
炒股没有好下场
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AnchorYU
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接下来一周就知道趋势了，要么ng下来，要么继续向上猛涨
AnchorYU
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炒股没有好下场
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从常理看，就应该是单一的便于交易小数点后面的金额吧
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三云师太
2018-11-17
三云师太
我研究了一下2016年的黄金。黄金涨了10倍然后跌回去了。三倍做空黄金。缺只涨了3倍。
三倍损耗很大。目前最低价为2.8。所以我顶多只看到9元。
Neptune
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你看的是nugt/dust吗，这种是三倍金矿股，要受大盘影响的。单纯三倍黄金是ugld/dgld，但是因为黄金本身的波动不及金矿股，所以交易的人相对比较少。
三云师太
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炒股没有好下场
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我不信。
炒股没有好下场
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三云师太
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我敢说就dgaz，哪一天再跌50%是非常有可能的，已经没底线了
三云师太
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炒股没有好下场
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去年也是，用天然气，到气荒，之后就开始又用煤。。。中国也不是喜欢被涨价。
总有办法的。
炒股没有好下场
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三云师太
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这种趋势大跌还有谁敢补仓，只能熬了
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三云师太
2018-11-17
三云师太
2*1.2*1.2*0.8*1.2*1.2*0.8=2.65
只能寄希望于，天然气连跌10天
2×1.2*1.2*1.2*1.2*1.2=4.97
大嘟嘟
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但是如果连涨8天明天10%就能到8.5
三云师太
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如果国际天然气涨到5.5
目前4.4就是 涨了25％
3.3×（1-0.25*3*0.9）=1.07
数据每天在变化，需要计算。
三云师太
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最坏的情况。。。
炒股没有好下场
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为什么是2？dgaz到2？
Neptune
2018-11-17
Neptune
到不了了，即便天然气立马跌到2.5，按三倍算dgaz大概也才能到7.7，dgaz这个星期损耗非常大。
AnchorYU
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炒股没有好下场
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没错，不能这么算，不能一下子跌，慢慢跌，dg很有可能到11以上
Neptune
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炒股没有好下场
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天然气必须连续不断下跌dgaz才能有倍增效应，如果涨涨跌跌dgaz就会损耗，这概率有多大只有天知道。
炒股没有好下场
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ng每天跌就可以了，不能一下子跌
大嘟嘟
2018-11-17
大嘟嘟
回到8 我就谢天谢地了 2.5倍 差不多
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精彩评论
看中国强硬派发言，是不会买美国天然气的。
那么需求旺盛，天然气价格今年暴涨是必然。
如果g20峰会，和解，中国向美国够买天然气。美国也不会便宜卖出。
导致今年天然气的大涨。涨多少成为一个问题。
目前三个月之后的天然气合约并没有涨价。只是近一个月的涨了。估计就是知道g20前后，天然气都是必涨。
三倍损耗很大。目前最低价为2.8。所以我顶多只看到9元。
只能寄希望于，天然气连跌10天
2×1.2*1.2*1.2*1.2*1.2=4.97