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2021-03-17
Will we go back to old highs?
Why $40 billion in stimulus won’t go ‘into’ stocks
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(Incidentally this raises, yet again, the question of why we don’t teach logic as Topic No. 1 in the public education system—a failure whose devastating costs are apparent every day.)</p>\n<p>It’s a simple logical error, and it doesn’t matter who points it out—me, your broker, the Man in the Moon. It’s basic logic.</p>\n<p>Stimulus money, or money “on the sidelines,” cannot “come into the market” for one very simple reason that gets ignored time and time and time again when this comes up.</p>\n<p>Every time a security is bought, one must be sold.</p>\n<p>Pretty obvious, right? If I buy your Apple stock, then you…er…have to sell it to me. I buy, you sell.</p>\n<p>Imagine if you bought a house and tried to move in, and the previous owner figured he’d hang on to it, as well as banking the check.</p>\n<p>If investors plunge $40 billion of their stimulus windfalls “into” stocks (and bitcoin), guess how much current investors will simultaneously “take out” of stocks (and bitcoin).</p>\n<p>Er…$40 billion.</p>\n<p>And if eager young investors rush out and pour $170 billion of their cash into these investments, current investors will…er…take $170 billion out.</p>\n<p>It is not a coincidence that the figures match.</p>\n<p>I have $10, you have a share. I buy your share. 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(Incidentally this raises, yet again, the question of why we don’t teach logic as Topic No. 1 in the public education system—a failure whose devastating costs are apparent every day.)\nIt’s a simple logical error, and it doesn’t matter who points it out—me, your broker, the Man in the Moon. It’s basic logic.\nStimulus money, or money “on the sidelines,” cannot “come into the market” for one very simple reason that gets ignored time and time and time again when this comes up.\nEvery time a security is bought, one must be sold.\nPretty obvious, right? If I buy your Apple stock, then you…er…have to sell it to me. I buy, you sell.\nImagine if you bought a house and tried to move in, and the previous owner figured he’d hang on to it, as well as banking the check.\nIf investors plunge $40 billion of their stimulus windfalls “into” stocks (and bitcoin), guess how much current investors will simultaneously “take out” of stocks (and bitcoin).\nEr…$40 billion.\nAnd if eager young investors rush out and pour $170 billion of their cash into these investments, current investors will…er…take $170 billion out.\nIt is not a coincidence that the figures match.\nI have $10, you have a share. I buy your share. Now I have your share…and you have my $10.\nNone of this means the stock market is a bad investment (or a good one), merely that this particular argument has no force.\nThe more interesting question is whether or not this hot stimulus money will spark even greater animal spirits among investors — especially among those who have the least experience of investing.\nIs that possible? 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