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I worry about battery swapping business model. Cool technology, but it is not a new idea andNio is not the first to do it. Keeping batteries on-hand needs high expertise in capital management, lease management, and battery management. Others have tried and failed. How is Nio different?

XPeng Vs. NIO: Which EV Stock Is The Better Buy

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How is Nio different?","highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"favoriteSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/101981879","repostId":1137943982,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1137943982","pubTimestamp":1619749878,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1137943982?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-04-30 10:31","market":"us","language":"en","title":"XPeng Vs. NIO: Which EV Stock Is The Better Buy","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1137943982","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"The EV industry experiences high growth rates and there are many new market entrants.NIO and XPeng belong to the highest-growth EV companies and have a lot of potential in their home market China.Both have some unique offerings, trade at a discount compared to Tesla, and grow more quickly. But which one is the better choice?Electric vehicle companies have experienced a big increase in investor interest over the last year, as the EV market continued to expand at a rapid pace. The number of EV sto","content":"Summary\n<ul>\n <li>The EV industry experiences high growth rates and there are many new market entrants.</li>\n <li>NIO and XPeng belong to the highest-growth EV companies and have a lot of potential in their home market China.</li>\n <li>Both have some unique offerings, trade at a discount compared to Tesla, and grow more quickly. But which one is the better choice?</li>\n</ul>\n<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f4aaa88cf5d3f942b0de6eda862dd6dd\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\">Photo by jonathanfilskov-photography/iStock via Getty Images\nElectric vehicle companies have experienced a big increase in investor interest over the last year, as the EV market continued to expand at a rapid pace. The number of EV stocks investors can choose from continues to rise as well, and two of the biggest ones are NIO (NIO) and XPeng (XPEV). In this article, we will take a look at these two major Chinese EV pure-plays to decide which one may be a better investment.\nXPeng Versus NIO Stock\nXPeng Inc and NIO Inc have both seen their share prices rise considerably over the last year. New investors rushed into markets, while interest in EV stocks rose, which could be seen in the share prices of the likes of Tesla (TSLA), but also with these two Chinese EV players:\n<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/76ba39e1d303590ed1db133e32f7f347\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"467\">Data by YCharts\nRight now, with shares trading at $41 and $31, respectively, NIO and XPeng are valued at $67 billion and $25 billion. This is a far cry from the $700 billion Tesla is valued at, but both NIO and XPeng still belong to the EV pure-plays with the highest market capitalizations. Others in this category include BYD (OTCPK:BYDDY) and Li Auto (LI).\nThe big share price increases these two companies have experienced bring up the question of whether these valuations do make sense. This is a question where some will agree and others will not - both companies are growing very fast, which naturally warrants a higher valuation, but on the other hand, they are both not profitable yet, and current forecasts do see them remain unprofitable through 2022. We will take a closer look at valuation further down in this article.\nExposure To The High-Growth Chinese EV Market\nBoth companies are located in China, manufacture their cars in China, and primarily sell their vehicles in China. China is one of the biggest EV markets in the world, and the biggest overall automobile market globally. Chinese politicians have ambitious goals of increasing the amount of EVs on the country's roads, partially due to a need to reduce local emissions in order to fight smog troubles. On top of that, China has a rapidly growing middle class, which is, of course, a major tailwind for consumption, which also benefits purchases of EVs and other vehicles.\nIn 2020, 1.3 million EVs were sold in China, which represents about 40% of the global EV market. Forecasts see a&nbsp;50% increase&nbsp;in EVs being sold in China in 2021, which gets us to an estimated 2.0 million electric vehicles being sold in China this year.\nThe high growth rate in their home market has been a major driver for both NIO's and XPeng's growth. During 2020, NIO sold&nbsp;44,000 vehicles, but a lot more growth is forecasted for the current year. NIO planned to sell more than 20,000 vehicles in Q1 alone, which equates to an annual pace of more than 80,000, and with further ramp-up expected for Q2-Q4, it is likely that NIO will sell at least 100,000 of its EVs this year.\nXiaopeng Motors, on the other hand,has sold 27,000 vehicles&nbsp;in 2020, albeit its pace already stood at more than 50,000 vehicles annually in Q4. XPeng has guided for at least 12,500 EVs being sold in Q1, and factoring in the seasonality of the business and further ramp-up of production in coming quarters, it is very likely that XPeng will more than double its sales this year.\nLooking at analyst estimates, we see that this year's strong growth that is expected for both companies is not an outlier. Instead, 2022 will be another year during which both NIO and XPeng should grow at a strong pace.\n<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8d2acba3a3368db073de724bd97eb71c\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"436\">Data by YCharts\nNIO is forecasted to grow its revenues to $5.4 billion this year, with another 59% growth forecasted for 2022, while revenues for 2023 are expected at $12.5 billion (up 45% versus 2022's expected revenues).\nXPeng data is not available at YCharts, but the growth curves look very strong as well -analysts are forecasting&nbsp;that revenues will hit $2.1 billion this year (up 130% versus 2020), and that revenues during 2022 will hit $4.2 billion, up by another 100%.\nAmong the two, NIO is the larger one by both vehicle deliveries and revenues, which is also reflected in its higher valuation. XPeng, however, with its strong expected growth, will also become a much larger player in this space over the next couple of years.\nLooking at market share, we see that NIO sells about one in every 20 EVs in China, while XPeng, due to its smaller size, sells about one in every 35 EVs. Both have bigger peers in their home market China, including Tesla, but at the same time, both NIO and XPeng are growing faster than the market. This should result in ongoing market share gains for both companies over the coming years. Thanks to the ongoing introduction of new models and their aggressive growth plans, it seems likely that both companies will continue to gain share over the coming years, as their above-market growth will be maintained.\nUnique Pros For NIO And XPeng\nWhen looking at unique selling points for these two companies in the crowded EV market, both are trying to set themselves aside from competitors. One of NIO's best arguments for why consumers should buy a NIO-branded car is its battery-swapping technology and battery-as-a-service offering. This service allows consumers to swap their batteries in a couple of minutes, which negates one of the main arguments consumers may still hold against EVs - that it takes too long to recharge a vehicle while on a road trip or similar.\nWith NIO's technology, which has been used millions of times already, this isn't a concern, at least while consumers live and travel in a geographic area with a dense battery-swapping network. Such networks do not exist outside of China yet, but in its home market, NIO can clearly differentiate itself from competitors with BAAS.\nXPeng, on the other hand, is working hard on branding itself as the \"Smart EV\" company. It puts an above-average focus on R&amp;D and is working hard on bringing smart technologies like advanced driver assistance systems to consumers. This strategy is primarily aimed at younger consumers. XPeng has managed to become one of the more popular EV players in China, but its offering is still not as unique as NIO's BAAS.\nChinese EV Market: Tailwinds For Domestic Producers\nTesla is still the largest EV player in the world, and it also sells a large amount of cars in China. Recent news, however, shows why domestic producers may ultimately be favored in China. Tesla is experiencing more scrutiny by the Chinese government and Chinese regulators, which has gotten so far that Tesla vehicles have been prevented from&nbsp;accessing some highways&nbsp;in the country due to safety concerns. Its vehicles have also reportedly been banned from military bases in the country, and the company has also experienced&nbsp;social media campaigns&nbsp;that are very unfavorable towards Tesla.\nIt looks like a theme that has been visible in other industries as well - Chinese regulators and governments favor domestic producers - could hold true in the high-growth EV industry as well. This positions NIO and XPeng well for success in their home countries.\nNIO And XPeng: Valuation\nSince both companies aren't profitable yet, we can't use earnings multiple to decide whether they are undervalued or not. We can, however, look at revenue multiples to deduce whether shares are favorably priced right now.\n<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/12557115440606d283aa6aa8ff14c611\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\">Data by YCharts\nNIO is trading at 5.6 times 2023's expected revenue, while XPeng is valued at roughly 3 times 2023's expected revenue (data not available on YCharts). This compares favorably versus the current EV king Tesla, which trades at 8 times 2023's expected revenue. On the other hand, however, both NIO and XPeng are of course way more expensive than legacy auto companies with a growing EV presence, including Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY), which trades at less than 1 times its annual sales.\nIs NIO Or XPeng A Buy\nBoth companies enjoy high growth rates, have shown solid Q1 results, and both benefit from China's policy of favoring domestic companies in a range of ways. It can be expected that both NIO Inc and XPeng Inc will continue to do well operationally, and it is also worth mentioning that both companies are significantly less expensive than Tesla, the current leader in the EV space. It is noteworthy that NIO and XPeng are less expensive despite delivering stronger growth rates on a relative basis.\nAt the same time, however, one can't say that either of these companies is inexpensive - they both still trade at large premiums over legacy auto companies.\nDue to the fact that NIO has gotten farther in growing its business so far, combined with the very unique BAAS offering that clearly differentiates it from peers and provides a major reason to use its products, I see it as a more favorable choice than XPeng generally. I believe this warrants a premium versus XPeng, which isn't as uniquely positioned and could experience more growing pains in coming years due to its smaller size.\nNevertheless, due to valuation, I don't think NIO's shares are a great buy right here, even though I would prefer them over those of XPeng (and I would prefer both over those of Tesla). Investors may want to wait for more favorable prices before entering or expanding a position if the current valuation gives them a pause - both when it comes to these two companies, as well as when other EV companies are considered.","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>XPeng Vs. 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NIO: Which EV Stock Is The Better Buy\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-04-30 10:31 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4422352-xpeng-vs-nio-stock-better-buy>seekingalpha</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\nSummary\n\nThe EV industry experiences high growth rates and there are many new market entrants.\nNIO and XPeng belong to the highest-growth EV companies and have a lot of potential in their home market ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4422352-xpeng-vs-nio-stock-better-buy\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"XPEV":"小鹏汽车","NIO":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4422352-xpeng-vs-nio-stock-better-buy","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1137943982","content_text":"Summary\n\nThe EV industry experiences high growth rates and there are many new market entrants.\nNIO and XPeng belong to the highest-growth EV companies and have a lot of potential in their home market China.\nBoth have some unique offerings, trade at a discount compared to Tesla, and grow more quickly. But which one is the better choice?\n\nPhoto by jonathanfilskov-photography/iStock via Getty Images\nElectric vehicle companies have experienced a big increase in investor interest over the last year, as the EV market continued to expand at a rapid pace. The number of EV stocks investors can choose from continues to rise as well, and two of the biggest ones are NIO (NIO) and XPeng (XPEV). In this article, we will take a look at these two major Chinese EV pure-plays to decide which one may be a better investment.\nXPeng Versus NIO Stock\nXPeng Inc and NIO Inc have both seen their share prices rise considerably over the last year. New investors rushed into markets, while interest in EV stocks rose, which could be seen in the share prices of the likes of Tesla (TSLA), but also with these two Chinese EV players:\nData by YCharts\nRight now, with shares trading at $41 and $31, respectively, NIO and XPeng are valued at $67 billion and $25 billion. This is a far cry from the $700 billion Tesla is valued at, but both NIO and XPeng still belong to the EV pure-plays with the highest market capitalizations. Others in this category include BYD (OTCPK:BYDDY) and Li Auto (LI).\nThe big share price increases these two companies have experienced bring up the question of whether these valuations do make sense. This is a question where some will agree and others will not - both companies are growing very fast, which naturally warrants a higher valuation, but on the other hand, they are both not profitable yet, and current forecasts do see them remain unprofitable through 2022. We will take a closer look at valuation further down in this article.\nExposure To The High-Growth Chinese EV Market\nBoth companies are located in China, manufacture their cars in China, and primarily sell their vehicles in China. China is one of the biggest EV markets in the world, and the biggest overall automobile market globally. Chinese politicians have ambitious goals of increasing the amount of EVs on the country's roads, partially due to a need to reduce local emissions in order to fight smog troubles. On top of that, China has a rapidly growing middle class, which is, of course, a major tailwind for consumption, which also benefits purchases of EVs and other vehicles.\nIn 2020, 1.3 million EVs were sold in China, which represents about 40% of the global EV market. Forecasts see a 50% increase in EVs being sold in China in 2021, which gets us to an estimated 2.0 million electric vehicles being sold in China this year.\nThe high growth rate in their home market has been a major driver for both NIO's and XPeng's growth. During 2020, NIO sold 44,000 vehicles, but a lot more growth is forecasted for the current year. NIO planned to sell more than 20,000 vehicles in Q1 alone, which equates to an annual pace of more than 80,000, and with further ramp-up expected for Q2-Q4, it is likely that NIO will sell at least 100,000 of its EVs this year.\nXiaopeng Motors, on the other hand,has sold 27,000 vehicles in 2020, albeit its pace already stood at more than 50,000 vehicles annually in Q4. XPeng has guided for at least 12,500 EVs being sold in Q1, and factoring in the seasonality of the business and further ramp-up of production in coming quarters, it is very likely that XPeng will more than double its sales this year.\nLooking at analyst estimates, we see that this year's strong growth that is expected for both companies is not an outlier. Instead, 2022 will be another year during which both NIO and XPeng should grow at a strong pace.\nData by YCharts\nNIO is forecasted to grow its revenues to $5.4 billion this year, with another 59% growth forecasted for 2022, while revenues for 2023 are expected at $12.5 billion (up 45% versus 2022's expected revenues).\nXPeng data is not available at YCharts, but the growth curves look very strong as well -analysts are forecasting that revenues will hit $2.1 billion this year (up 130% versus 2020), and that revenues during 2022 will hit $4.2 billion, up by another 100%.\nAmong the two, NIO is the larger one by both vehicle deliveries and revenues, which is also reflected in its higher valuation. XPeng, however, with its strong expected growth, will also become a much larger player in this space over the next couple of years.\nLooking at market share, we see that NIO sells about one in every 20 EVs in China, while XPeng, due to its smaller size, sells about one in every 35 EVs. Both have bigger peers in their home market China, including Tesla, but at the same time, both NIO and XPeng are growing faster than the market. This should result in ongoing market share gains for both companies over the coming years. Thanks to the ongoing introduction of new models and their aggressive growth plans, it seems likely that both companies will continue to gain share over the coming years, as their above-market growth will be maintained.\nUnique Pros For NIO And XPeng\nWhen looking at unique selling points for these two companies in the crowded EV market, both are trying to set themselves aside from competitors. One of NIO's best arguments for why consumers should buy a NIO-branded car is its battery-swapping technology and battery-as-a-service offering. This service allows consumers to swap their batteries in a couple of minutes, which negates one of the main arguments consumers may still hold against EVs - that it takes too long to recharge a vehicle while on a road trip or similar.\nWith NIO's technology, which has been used millions of times already, this isn't a concern, at least while consumers live and travel in a geographic area with a dense battery-swapping network. Such networks do not exist outside of China yet, but in its home market, NIO can clearly differentiate itself from competitors with BAAS.\nXPeng, on the other hand, is working hard on branding itself as the \"Smart EV\" company. It puts an above-average focus on R&D and is working hard on bringing smart technologies like advanced driver assistance systems to consumers. This strategy is primarily aimed at younger consumers. XPeng has managed to become one of the more popular EV players in China, but its offering is still not as unique as NIO's BAAS.\nChinese EV Market: Tailwinds For Domestic Producers\nTesla is still the largest EV player in the world, and it also sells a large amount of cars in China. Recent news, however, shows why domestic producers may ultimately be favored in China. Tesla is experiencing more scrutiny by the Chinese government and Chinese regulators, which has gotten so far that Tesla vehicles have been prevented from accessing some highways in the country due to safety concerns. Its vehicles have also reportedly been banned from military bases in the country, and the company has also experienced social media campaigns that are very unfavorable towards Tesla.\nIt looks like a theme that has been visible in other industries as well - Chinese regulators and governments favor domestic producers - could hold true in the high-growth EV industry as well. This positions NIO and XPeng well for success in their home countries.\nNIO And XPeng: Valuation\nSince both companies aren't profitable yet, we can't use earnings multiple to decide whether they are undervalued or not. We can, however, look at revenue multiples to deduce whether shares are favorably priced right now.\nData by YCharts\nNIO is trading at 5.6 times 2023's expected revenue, while XPeng is valued at roughly 3 times 2023's expected revenue (data not available on YCharts). This compares favorably versus the current EV king Tesla, which trades at 8 times 2023's expected revenue. On the other hand, however, both NIO and XPeng are of course way more expensive than legacy auto companies with a growing EV presence, including Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY), which trades at less than 1 times its annual sales.\nIs NIO Or XPeng A Buy\nBoth companies enjoy high growth rates, have shown solid Q1 results, and both benefit from China's policy of favoring domestic companies in a range of ways. It can be expected that both NIO Inc and XPeng Inc will continue to do well operationally, and it is also worth mentioning that both companies are significantly less expensive than Tesla, the current leader in the EV space. It is noteworthy that NIO and XPeng are less expensive despite delivering stronger growth rates on a relative basis.\nAt the same time, however, one can't say that either of these companies is inexpensive - they both still trade at large premiums over legacy auto companies.\nDue to the fact that NIO has gotten farther in growing its business so far, combined with the very unique BAAS offering that clearly differentiates it from peers and provides a major reason to use its products, I see it as a more favorable choice than XPeng generally. I believe this warrants a premium versus XPeng, which isn't as uniquely positioned and could experience more growing pains in coming years due to its smaller size.\nNevertheless, due to valuation, I don't think NIO's shares are a great buy right here, even though I would prefer them over those of XPeng (and I would prefer both over those of Tesla). Investors may want to wait for more favorable prices before entering or expanding a position if the current valuation gives them a pause - both when it comes to these two companies, as well as when other EV companies are considered.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":135,"commentLimit":10,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"symbols":[],"verified":2,"subType":0,"readableState":1,"langContent":"EN","currentLanguage":"EN","warmUpFlag":false,"orderFlag":false,"shareable":true,"causeOfNotShareable":"","featuresForAnalytics":[],"commentAndTweetFlag":false,"andRepostAutoSelectedFlag":false,"upFlag":false,"length":240,"xxTargetLangEnum":"ORIG"},"commentList":[],"isCommentEnd":true,"isTiger":false,"isWeiXinMini":false,"url":"/m/post/101981879"}