阿里云周靖人：阿里云坚持拥抱开源

柴旭晨07-05

当AI大厂开始面向应用落地，进入到行业用户争夺大战之时，路线之争也伴随而来。在7月5日世界人工大会分论坛上，阿里云CTO周靖人重申了阿里云拥抱开源开放的坚定立场。“两年前，我们在WAIC上发布通义大模型系列，当时就公布通义核心模型将开源开放。到今天，通义千问已经实现真正意义上的全尺寸、全模态开源。” 在周靖人看来，大模型的训练和迭代成本极高，绝大部分的AI开发者和中小企业都无法负担，亲自下场自研...

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