Twitter Has Spoken: Musk Should Sell $21 Billion Tesla Stake

Bloomberg2021-11-08

(Bloomberg) -- Elon Musk’s social media followers have spoken: The Tesla Inc. chief should sell 10% of his stake in the electric-car maker. A majority of 3.5 million Twitter users said they’d support ...

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