Apple: Great Reset

Seeking Alpha2021-11-01

Summary Apple missed revenue estimates for FQ4'21 and faces major headwinds to growth going forward. The tech giant expects supply chain issues to lead to a greater than $6 billion impact to December...

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vincentheng8
2021-11-02
vincentheng8
All in
- vincentheng8:
  all in
TCX
2021-11-01
TCX
Keep dca
SFern
2021-11-01
SFern
Good
- SFern:
  Lol
Nwong
2021-11-01
Nwong
Nice
RT126
2021-11-01
RT126
If it is really a reset, DO IT PLEASE!
- CPCat回复Veldora:
  yes, good move for Apple
- Veldora:
  Always buy during thier dip. [Cool]
- Zarkness:
  Lol

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Apple faces lower growth for App Store revenue with the inclusion of alternative payment methods in apps and the company already reducing fees for some apps.\nWildly Bullish\nDespite all of these issues with the reset of the business, analysts are uniformly bullish on the stock. According toTipRanksdata where only analyst ratings updated in the last 3 months are included, 19 analysts have Buy ratings and only 6 analysts have Hold ratings. No analysts have maintained a Sell rating on Apple during this period.\nSource: TipRanks\nNow that Apple has missed quarterly revenue targets and reset the strong holiday quarter to include sizable supply disruptions, analysts are wildly bullish with the stock still trading at 26x FY22 EPS estimates at $5.67. Even the analyst community hasn't outlined a scenario where Apple generates premium growth rates going forward, so the disconnect is odd.\nThe average analyst target of nearly $169 would offer 13% upside and leave the stock at nearly 30x FY22 EPS targets. An investor shouldn't take accept this limited return forecast considering the weak revenue growth picture could reset the stock multiple 20% lower or more. The risk/reward scenario isn't very rewarding for Apple at $150 when a 20% dip leaves the stock still trading at 21x FY22 EPS forecasts and the upside is predicted at only 13%.\nTakeaway\nThe key investor takeaway is that while Apple remains a market leader, the company is now going through the normal cyclical revenue dips from a Product focused business. The COVID lockdowns pulled forward revenues more than normal leading to what amounts as a great reset in FY22. 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