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HolyMan
2021-10-05
第一周
@小虎活动:【收益率挑战】周周正收益,我是老虎大赢家!
HolyMan
2021-09-12
$纳指三倍做空ETF(SQQQ)$
赶紧崩
HolyMan
2021-07-07
写了个啥啊(」゜ロ゜)」不敢苟同
油价暴涨暴跌,美债创半年新低,发生了什么?
HolyMan
2021-06-04
这种人能当首席经济家?一本正经的胡说八道
抱歉,原内容已删除
HolyMan
2020-03-06
$迅雷(XNET)$
突然想听上学威龙,迅雷牛逼
HolyMan
2020-01-16
$迅雷(XNET)$
赶紧来一发翻倍吧,资金在这错过了蔚来错过了大麻……
HolyMan
2019-12-19
$迅雷(XNET)$
等待现象级应用落地,最少得有个百亿市值吧,rmb
HolyMan
2019-12-13
$迅雷(XNET)$
拉爆空头,一扫阴霾[得意][得意][财迷]
HolyMan
2019-11-15
$迅雷(XNET)$
一夜回到解放前
HolyMan
2019-11-14
$迅雷(XNET)$
一千股砸五个点?求不逗,多砸一点我捡一点便宜筹码
HolyMan
2019-11-12
$迅雷(XNET)$
看了财报就过不了岗啦!今晚就要打老虎! 多!肝![丢脸]
HolyMan
2019-11-11
$迅雷(XNET)$
还是看到18至20,低吸好机会,看空的就让我们互道一声珍重,买定离手!
HolyMan
2019-11-06
$迅雷(XNET)$
今晚绝对大涨!
HolyMan
2019-11-05
$迅雷(XNET)$
股票全靠庄家炒,赚钱都是韭菜送,今晚十点大阳线来一根!
HolyMan
2019-11-05
$法拉利(RACE)$
当年不买破鞋,做race股东,现在不仅能开上马,还能赚一笔,人生真是充满了惊喜
HolyMan
2019-11-02
$迅雷(XNET)$
错过最佳介入时机,今天凌晨看他越来越强,忍不住先入一点,后市看好,先看到18,我就是来投机的
HolyMan
2019-10-30
请问各位大佬,送拼多多股票的活动在哪领?
去老虎APP查看更多动态
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tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"693\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>图1 美国非制造业PMI公布之前,原油价格已经跌回去了</p>\n<p><b>此外,白宫新闻称,拜登正在与OPEC谈判,希望达成协议阻止油价上涨。</b></p>\n<p>这与2018年特朗普与沙特谈判如出一辙,高油价并非美国希望看到的:<b>美国当前通胀压力非常大,同时美国页岩油复产不利,美国并未从高油价受益。</b></p>\n<p><b>拜登的干预,可能同样类似2018年特朗普干预,奠定油价顶部。</b></p>\n<h3><b>美国非制造业PMI远不及预期,需求侧担忧重现</b></h3>\n<p><b>美国ISM非制造业PMI公布,仅为60.1,远低于前值64和市场预期63.5。</b>其中,新订单、商业活动、就业指数均明显下行,特别是就业指数从55.3下行至49.3,跌破50荣枯线,反映美国就业改善并不及预期。</p>\n<p><b>结合非农就业数据看,6月失业率仍然为5.9%的高位,且高于5月。</b>无论怎么解释劳动参与率和主动离职,总失业率仍高,是不争的事实,且并未看到加速改善,反而似乎已经半年没有实质进展。</p>\n<p><b>疫情前,美国失业率仅为3.5%左右,目前在6%左右,美国经济畸形可见一斑:</b>一边是商品价格飙涨,房价飙涨,另一边则是失业率处于历史高位,贸易逆差连续创纪录。</p>\n<p><b>很多人说中国滞胀,实际上美国才真的是滞胀。</b></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15847d6952c69ff9f86096e9853c0029\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"620\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>图2 美国失业率仍远高于疫情前</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/512b2f16eeed53524eff7d3f756244c8\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"638\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>图3 美国制造业、非制造业PMI均下行</p>\n<p>值得注意的是,原油跌、铜跌、美债收益率下的时间早于非制造业PMI公布,如前所述,我们认为主要因为市场开始意识到炒作“OPEC内部冲突导致油价”有问题,导致通胀预期下行。</p>\n<p>在非制造业PMI公布之后,市场又开始担忧需求侧,加剧下行趋势。</p>\n<p><b>总体上看,我们认为,夜盘变化的核心是,市场从关注OPEC的供给端,变为关注需求端,全球复苏担忧再次主导海外市场。</b></p>\n<h3><b>美债下行主因实际利率下行</b></h3>\n<p>美债此轮下行与6月中旬美联储议息会议时期并不相同,从结构看,<b>近期的美债收益率下行与通胀预期无关,主要是美债实际利率下行,即对经济增长担忧。</b></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/09ab8b27c77264fbb67a5da06e95ca44\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"637\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>图4 美债收益率下行的两阶段</p>\n<p><b>5月以来的美债收益率下行可以清晰地分成两阶段:</b></p>\n<blockquote>\n <b>第一阶段,美债通胀预期下行,主要与铜价拐头向下有关</b>\n <b>。</b>\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n <b>第二阶段,美债实际利率下行,</b>从美联储6月议息会议短暂冲高之后,一路下行,目前已经下行至2月以来最低点。\n</blockquote>\n<p><b>从美债隐含的预期来看,一方面,通胀预期已经见顶回落,另一方面,对于全球经济已经开始出现担忧。</b></p>\n<p>从美国经济数据看,除非制造业PMI远不及预期之外,还有<b>消费数据边际走弱、房地产数据出现分化</b>等等。</p>\n<p>同时,<b>美国很多州已经提前结束疫情补贴,拜登的基建计划一砍再砍</b>,对全球经济担忧并不是空穴来风。</p>\n<p><b>从美债看,这应该是跟市场预期差异最大的品种,市场普遍预期美债收益率上行至2%甚至更高,然而美债收益率却一路下行至半年新低。</b></p>\n<p><b>我们认为,中债也会如此。</b>目前市场看空中债情绪仍重,但大概率会同样超市场预期。</p>\n<h3><b>继续看好中债,十年国债必破3%</b></h3>\n<p>回到中国债市,最近市场波动非常小,3.08%左右的十年国债已经震荡了两周,在5月前低略高一些的位置陷入僵局。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4f680d04dbf9fd931e02fd6f3048e16d\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"630\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>图5 中国债券收益率短期陷入僵局</p>\n<p><b>空头的逻辑主要是:第N次担忧通胀,第N次担忧地方债供给,第N次担忧资金面,以及一直认为的韧性,经济不会明显下行。</b></p>\n<p><b>空头的逻辑实际在3月以来,每个月都会出现一遍,然后提供债市买点,然后收益率下行。</b></p>\n<p><b>多头的逻辑其实在变多:</b></p>\n<p><b>一方面,</b>央行维稳资金面意图越来越明确,7月生日之后如果仍未出现市场担忧的资金利率趋势上行,那么空头的逻辑将再次被证伪,<b>R007在2.2%政策利率左右,是长期而不是短期的,将成为市场共识;</b></p>\n<p><b>另一方面,基本面的利好在逐渐增多。</b></p>\n<p><b>从国内看,</b>挖掘机、重卡、汽车销量均明显走弱,PMI连续下行,消费并未见明显起色;</p>\n<p><b>从国外看,</b>担忧全球经济复苏的声音已经开始出现,并已经反映在铜价跌(与中国经济更相关)、美债收益率下行。</p>\n<p><b>我们认为,中国债市将在三季度破局,十年国债收益率将有效突破3%。</b></p>\n<p>维持年底十年国债收益率2.8-2.9%的判断不变,<b>维持今年3月以来提出的“债牛已至”观点不变。</b></p>","source":"gelonghui_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>油价暴涨暴跌,美债创半年新低,发生了什么?</title>\n<style 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美国非制造业PMI公布之前,原油价格已经跌回去了\n此外,白宫新闻称,拜登正在与OPEC谈判,希望达成协议阻止油价上涨。\n这与2018年特朗普与沙特谈判如出一辙,高油价并非美国希望看到的:美国当前通胀压力非常大,同时美国页岩油复产不利,美国并未从高油价受益。\n拜登的干预,可能同样类似2018年特朗普干预,奠定油价顶部。\n美国非制造业PMI远不及预期,需求侧担忧重现\n美国ISM非制造业PMI公布,仅为60.1,远低于前值64和市场预期63.5。其中,新订单、商业活动、就业指数均明显下行,特别是就业指数从55.3下行至49.3,跌破50荣枯线,反映美国就业改善并不及预期。\n结合非农就业数据看,6月失业率仍然为5.9%的高位,且高于5月。无论怎么解释劳动参与率和主动离职,总失业率仍高,是不争的事实,且并未看到加速改善,反而似乎已经半年没有实质进展。\n疫情前,美国失业率仅为3.5%左右,目前在6%左右,美国经济畸形可见一斑:一边是商品价格飙涨,房价飙涨,另一边则是失业率处于历史高位,贸易逆差连续创纪录。\n很多人说中国滞胀,实际上美国才真的是滞胀。\n\n图2 美国失业率仍远高于疫情前\n\n图3 美国制造业、非制造业PMI均下行\n值得注意的是,原油跌、铜跌、美债收益率下的时间早于非制造业PMI公布,如前所述,我们认为主要因为市场开始意识到炒作“OPEC内部冲突导致油价”有问题,导致通胀预期下行。\n在非制造业PMI公布之后,市场又开始担忧需求侧,加剧下行趋势。\n总体上看,我们认为,夜盘变化的核心是,市场从关注OPEC的供给端,变为关注需求端,全球复苏担忧再次主导海外市场。\n美债下行主因实际利率下行\n美债此轮下行与6月中旬美联储议息会议时期并不相同,从结构看,近期的美债收益率下行与通胀预期无关,主要是美债实际利率下行,即对经济增长担忧。\n\n图4 美债收益率下行的两阶段\n5月以来的美债收益率下行可以清晰地分成两阶段:\n\n第一阶段,美债通胀预期下行,主要与铜价拐头向下有关\n。\n\n\n第二阶段,美债实际利率下行,从美联储6月议息会议短暂冲高之后,一路下行,目前已经下行至2月以来最低点。\n\n从美债隐含的预期来看,一方面,通胀预期已经见顶回落,另一方面,对于全球经济已经开始出现担忧。\n从美国经济数据看,除非制造业PMI远不及预期之外,还有消费数据边际走弱、房地产数据出现分化等等。\n同时,美国很多州已经提前结束疫情补贴,拜登的基建计划一砍再砍,对全球经济担忧并不是空穴来风。\n从美债看,这应该是跟市场预期差异最大的品种,市场普遍预期美债收益率上行至2%甚至更高,然而美债收益率却一路下行至半年新低。\n我们认为,中债也会如此。目前市场看空中债情绪仍重,但大概率会同样超市场预期。\n继续看好中债,十年国债必破3%\n回到中国债市,最近市场波动非常小,3.08%左右的十年国债已经震荡了两周,在5月前低略高一些的位置陷入僵局。\n\n图5 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tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"693\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>图1 美国非制造业PMI公布之前,原油价格已经跌回去了</p>\n<p><b>此外,白宫新闻称,拜登正在与OPEC谈判,希望达成协议阻止油价上涨。</b></p>\n<p>这与2018年特朗普与沙特谈判如出一辙,高油价并非美国希望看到的:<b>美国当前通胀压力非常大,同时美国页岩油复产不利,美国并未从高油价受益。</b></p>\n<p><b>拜登的干预,可能同样类似2018年特朗普干预,奠定油价顶部。</b></p>\n<h3><b>美国非制造业PMI远不及预期,需求侧担忧重现</b></h3>\n<p><b>美国ISM非制造业PMI公布,仅为60.1,远低于前值64和市场预期63.5。</b>其中,新订单、商业活动、就业指数均明显下行,特别是就业指数从55.3下行至49.3,跌破50荣枯线,反映美国就业改善并不及预期。</p>\n<p><b>结合非农就业数据看,6月失业率仍然为5.9%的高位,且高于5月。</b>无论怎么解释劳动参与率和主动离职,总失业率仍高,是不争的事实,且并未看到加速改善,反而似乎已经半年没有实质进展。</p>\n<p><b>疫情前,美国失业率仅为3.5%左右,目前在6%左右,美国经济畸形可见一斑:</b>一边是商品价格飙涨,房价飙涨,另一边则是失业率处于历史高位,贸易逆差连续创纪录。</p>\n<p><b>很多人说中国滞胀,实际上美国才真的是滞胀。</b></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15847d6952c69ff9f86096e9853c0029\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"620\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>图2 美国失业率仍远高于疫情前</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/512b2f16eeed53524eff7d3f756244c8\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"638\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>图3 美国制造业、非制造业PMI均下行</p>\n<p>值得注意的是,原油跌、铜跌、美债收益率下的时间早于非制造业PMI公布,如前所述,我们认为主要因为市场开始意识到炒作“OPEC内部冲突导致油价”有问题,导致通胀预期下行。</p>\n<p>在非制造业PMI公布之后,市场又开始担忧需求侧,加剧下行趋势。</p>\n<p><b>总体上看,我们认为,夜盘变化的核心是,市场从关注OPEC的供给端,变为关注需求端,全球复苏担忧再次主导海外市场。</b></p>\n<h3><b>美债下行主因实际利率下行</b></h3>\n<p>美债此轮下行与6月中旬美联储议息会议时期并不相同,从结构看,<b>近期的美债收益率下行与通胀预期无关,主要是美债实际利率下行,即对经济增长担忧。</b></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/09ab8b27c77264fbb67a5da06e95ca44\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"637\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>图4 美债收益率下行的两阶段</p>\n<p><b>5月以来的美债收益率下行可以清晰地分成两阶段:</b></p>\n<blockquote>\n <b>第一阶段,美债通胀预期下行,主要与铜价拐头向下有关</b>\n <b>。</b>\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n 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美债收益率下行的两阶段\n5月以来的美债收益率下行可以清晰地分成两阶段:\n\n第一阶段,美债通胀预期下行,主要与铜价拐头向下有关\n。\n\n\n第二阶段,美债实际利率下行,从美联储6月议息会议短暂冲高之后,一路下行,目前已经下行至2月以来最低点。\n\n从美债隐含的预期来看,一方面,通胀预期已经见顶回落,另一方面,对于全球经济已经开始出现担忧。\n从美国经济数据看,除非制造业PMI远不及预期之外,还有消费数据边际走弱、房地产数据出现分化等等。\n同时,美国很多州已经提前结束疫情补贴,拜登的基建计划一砍再砍,对全球经济担忧并不是空穴来风。\n从美债看,这应该是跟市场预期差异最大的品种,市场普遍预期美债收益率上行至2%甚至更高,然而美债收益率却一路下行至半年新低。\n我们认为,中债也会如此。目前市场看空中债情绪仍重,但大概率会同样超市场预期。\n继续看好中债,十年国债必破3%\n回到中国债市,最近市场波动非常小,3.08%左右的十年国债已经震荡了两周,在5月前低略高一些的位置陷入僵局。\n\n图5 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